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There has been a lot of claims going around about how this forced health insurance plan will help people and many even try to beat opponents over the head with calling the program something Christians should want to do and other dirty tactics to force this idea down our throats but how much will it hurt and how much will it help on a overall basis?
First of all you have to pay for it, some estimates say 1 trillion, some say more but we know from experience that every program ever created by the Federal Government has had their cost estimates be way, way low. Low or not we don't even have the 1 trillion so new tax money must be found to pay for it and in a already stressed economy, there is no way to get such massive amounts of money without causing a lot of pain.....
Next we have the general agreement of all parties that to one degree to another this will end all private insurance, maybe not all at once but clearly the lack of having to make a profit will give the Government plan the lions share of the customers and lead to a lot of lost jobs in America. One of the links Emkay provided spoke of how American doctors have several workers in each office dedicated to filing for many different insurance companies and once we go to one Government insurer, you no longer need these workers and the lower payouts will make you fire them even if you want to keep them.
I have no idea how many medical offices there are in America but if say 2 to 3 people in each office is fired per office and we add in all the insurance company firings I bet we can see hundreds of thousands of jobs lost because of this Government health plan.
Employees who previously had great medical coverage with high coverages will be forced to lose their plans and accept the lower coverage of the Government plan on top of being herded into long waiting times for limited treatments.
So, high cost we can't pay for.
Hundreds of thousands of lost jobs further increasing unemployment and reducing tax income for the Govenrment.
Jobs lost from the private sector.
Lower quality care for all people.
Obama will go down in the books as the President who killed the most private sector jobs and increased our debt the most.
First of all you have to pay for it, some estimates say 1 trillion, some say more but we know from experience that every program ever created by the Federal Government has had their cost estimates be way, way low. Low or not we don't even have the 1 trillion so new tax money must be found to pay for it and in a already stressed economy, there is no way to get such massive amounts of money without causing a lot of pain.....
Next we have the general agreement of all parties that to one degree to another this will end all private insurance, maybe not all at once but clearly the lack of having to make a profit will give the Government plan the lions share of the customers and lead to a lot of lost jobs in America. One of the links Emkay provided spoke of how American doctors have several workers in each office dedicated to filing for many different insurance companies and once we go to one Government insurer, you no longer need these workers and the lower payouts will make you fire them even if you want to keep them.
I have no idea how many medical offices there are in America but if say 2 to 3 people in each office is fired per office and we add in all the insurance company firings I bet we can see hundreds of thousands of jobs lost because of this Government health plan.
Employees who previously had great medical coverage with high coverages will be forced to lose their plans and accept the lower coverage of the Government plan on top of being herded into long waiting times for limited treatments.
So, high cost we can't pay for.
Hundreds of thousands of lost jobs further increasing unemployment and reducing tax income for the Govenrment.
Jobs lost from the private sector.
Lower quality care for all people.
Obama will go down in the books as the President who killed the most private sector jobs and increased our debt the most.
