builder Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Voting is compulsory in Australia, though I did protest a gerrymander back in the bad old days, and my fine was forgiven and I was struck off the electoral roll. I just read this article, and I can understand why lots of Americans think voting is a waste of fucking time. Will you vote in this crucial election? Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalOrleans Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Throughout the lineage of my forebears, someone has voted against the opium ordinance here in Brambleburg. Somehow the Celestials get caught with it, it becomes front page headlines on our local commie rag, and us good citizens have to suffer without chink-cunt handjobs. Whether it is for local, statewide, or national; my vote will be cast. Though it may not amount to a hill of beans, but this hill is supposed to be ours and the beans are ours as well. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zukiman Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Local, state, national, bike of the month, I always vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 What happened is the Democrats dummied there voters down so badly that they could not use paper ballots. This resulted in a bunch of dumbfucks voting for Pat Buchanan when their intention was to cast a vote for Al (The Frenck Kisser) Gore thus giving the 2000 Presidential election to G.Who's Your Daddy Bush. So now we got electronic voting. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 You're slipping Hugo a Gogo. Are you sick? I'll rephrase that. Are you ill? Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 http://arts.bev.net/roperldavid/politics/FL2000.htm Stoopid Democrats. No wonder they don't like literacy tests as a voting requirement. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 Stoopid Democrats. No wonder they don't like literacy tests as a voting requirement. Bloody hell Hugo, you're not in the alt. forums now. Do you have a point to discuss? Or is it back to the jungle for some pointers, teach? Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 http://www.2thejungle.com/postview_2113.asp 'Nuff said. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 http://www.2thejungle.com/postview_2113.asp 'Nuff said. Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.---George (Homey) Washington Now who said there was nothing but shit in the jungle? Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalfind Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Interesting opinion Hugo of Democrats, studies show that the most wealthy and educated and the lowest classes vote Democrat and the middle class vote Republican. For many that vote Republican, they do so mistakenly believing that the tax breaks favored by the Republicans will help them when in fact they don't have enough money for it too make a difference. Source you ask??? My Policitcal Science text book so far, I'm about to write a paper that will touch on this so I will have to search out more sources. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Fi- do or die Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 I am 18 but I wont get to vote... (sad) The Marine Core still has all my papers to process and I may not get them till after the last time to registor. However I wasn't gonna vote anyway because I still want time to figure out all the politics. I'm pretty young, there fore pretty stupid still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sappho2007 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Voting is compulsory in Australia, though I did protest a gerrymander back in the bad old days, and my fine was forgiven and I was struck off the electoral roll. As an australian, I hate voting because it all comes back to a two party preference and i don't really much like either. I tend then not to pay the accumulating fines - as a protest. This year, i miss the state elections in victoria in november ligitimately, as I will be in India and no where near the aussie embassy. But still i will let the fine arrive and leave it unpaid along with the others in my collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted October 16, 2006 Author Share Posted October 16, 2006 As an australian, I hate voting because it all comes back to a two party preference and i don't really much like either. I tend then not to pay the accumulating fines - as a protest. This year, i miss the state elections in victoria in november ligitimately, as I will be in India and no where near the aussie embassy. But still i will let the fine arrive and leave it unpaid along with the others in my collection. Hmmm, frame them as keepsakes to your nonparticipatory role, Sappho. During the gerrymander phase of Queensland politics, I was the vociferous nonparticipator. What do you think now? Still not worthy of a vote? Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToriAllen Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Stoopid Democrats. No wonder they don't like literacy tests as a voting requirement. There is also a reason they don't want voters to have to show a valid ID... Interesting opinion Hugo of Democrats, studies show that the most wealthy and educated and the lowest classes vote Democrat and the middle class vote Republican. For many that vote Republican, they do so mistakenly believing that the tax breaks favored by the Republicans will help them when in fact they don't have enough money for it too make a difference. Source you ask??? My Policitcal Science text book so far, I'm about to write a paper that will touch on this so I will have to search out more sources. You're going to have a hard time finding them. Studies actually show that the more education a person has, the more likely they are to be Republican. You are also not taking into account the Labor Union middle class, who are predominately Democrat. Here, this will get you started… 2000 American National Election Study: Source, Government by the People, 2002, pg.126. Portrait of the electorate: Income_____________Rep________Dem________Ind Less than 10,000_____34__________54_________12 10,000-19,999_______29__________62__________9 20,000-29,999_______35__________53_________12 30,000-39,999_______32__________54_________14 40,000-59,999_______37__________53_________10 60,000+____________48__________42 _________10 They also have the stats for sex, age, race, religion, and region if anyone is interested. My sociology teacher for statistics used real studies for us to analyze. Analysis showed a significant difference in the education levels of those who voted Republican as opposed to Democrat or Independent. There was no significant differences between the education levels of those who voted Democrat and those who voted Independent. The education levels of those who voted Republican were significantly higher than the other two. What is the name, copyright date, editor, and page number of this book you are using? Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddo Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 just how are choices 1 and 4 different? Quote I'm trusted by more women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 We all know I'm gonna. And which party. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phreakwars Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 http://www.electoral-vote.com . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalfind Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 There is also a reason they don't want voters to have to show a valid ID... You're going to have a hard time finding them. Studies actually show that the more education a person has, the more likely they are to be Republican. You are also not taking into account the Labor Union middle class, who are predominately Democrat. Here, this will get you started… 2000 American National Election Study: Source, Government by the People, 2002, pg.126. Portrait of the electorate: Income_____________Rep________Dem________Ind Less than 10,000_____34__________54_________12 10,000-19,999_______29__________62__________9 20,000-29,999_______35__________53_________12 30,000-39,999_______32__________54_________14 40,000-59,999_______37__________53_________10 60,000+____________48__________42 _________10 They also have the stats for sex, age, race, religion, and region if anyone is interested. My sociology teacher for statistics used real studies for us to analyze. Analysis showed a significant difference in the education levels of those who voted Republican as opposed to Democrat or Independent. There was no significant differences between the education levels of those who voted Democrat and those who voted Independent. The education levels of those who voted Republican were significantly higher than the other two. What is the name, copyright date, editor, and page number of this book you are using? We The People...an Introduction to American Politicis, copyright 2005 Editor: Stephen Dunn Editorial assistant: Kelly Rolf I don't know the page number...you can trot down to the library and find that for yourself. You know what I find interesting is when people walk the line, 'believing' in EVERYTHING the party they follow believes in, unable to think for themselves. Its also pretty funny when people adopt their beliefs from their family, unable to think for themselves, they take on their parents beliefs. It would be interesting if people like you Tori would open your eyes and see that the Republicans and their belief systems walk right over people in your position in life. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sappho2007 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Hmmm, frame them as keepsakes to your nonparticipatory role, Sappho. During the gerrymander phase of Queensland politics, I was the vociferous nonparticipator. What do you think now? Still not worthy of a vote? Where it is that I only have a real chance of seeing one of two parties with similar policies, the choice becomes a personality contest not unlike what's going on in this debate site with their presidential thingy going on. That's not what voting is all about. In Victoria I have a choice of the Liberals lead by rich boy born with a golden spoon encrusted with diamonds, or Labour lead by the son of immigrants done good. Both have egos bigger than their commitment to social harmony and good govt. So what's the point of voting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalfind Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I did not know you HAD to vote in Austrailia AND you could be fined if you didn't. Builder, are you saying you can never vote again? Here in the US the bleeding heart Liberals want to make sure that even Felons once they have gotten out of jail retain their right too vote...even though traditionally having been convicted of a felony they give up certain rights even once they are out of prison. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 This is interesting. What is Anencephaly? Anencephaly is a defect in the closure of the neural tube during fetal development. The neural tube is a narrow channel that folds and closes between the 3rd and 4th weeks of pregnancy to form the brain and spinal cord of the embryo. Anencephaly occurs when the "cephalic" or head end of the neural tube fails to close, resulting in the absence of a major portion of the brain, skull, and scalp. Infants with this disorder are born without a forebrain (the front part of the brain) and a cerebrum (the thinking and coordinating part of the brain). The remaining brain tissue is often exposed--not covered by bone or skin. A baby born with anencephaly is usually blind, deaf, unconscious, and unable to feel pain. Although some individuals with anencephaly may be born with a rudimentary brain stem, the lack of a functioning cerebrum permanently rules out the possibility of ever gaining consciousness. Reflex actions such as breathing and responses to sound or touch may occur. The cause of anencephaly is unknown. Although it is thought that a mother's diet and vitamin intake may play a role, scientists believe that many other factors are also involved. Recent studies have shown that the addition of folic acid (vitamin B9) to the diet of women of childbearing age may significantly reduce the incidence of neural tube defects. Therefore it is recommended that all women of childbearing age consume 0.4 mg of folic acid daily. Is there any treatment? There is no cure or standard treatment for anencephaly. Treatment is supportive. What is the prognosis? The prognosis for babies born with anencephaly is extremely poor. If the infant is not stillborn, then he or she will usually die within a few hours or days after birth. If they survive to age 18 they almost always vote Democrat. What research is being done? Research supported by the NINDS includes studies to understand how the brain and nervous system normally develop. These studies contribute to a greater understanding of neural tube disorders, such as anencephaly, and open promising new avenues to treat and prevent neurological birth defects. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToriAllen Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 We The People...an Introduction to American Politicis, copyright 2005 Editor: Stephen Dunn Editorial assistant: Kelly Rolf I don't know the page number...you can trot down to the library and find that for yourself. Well, that sounded snotty. At least I make an effort to back up my points. Don’t worry. I’ll look it up as soon as the book gets here. It might take 10 to 14 days, though. You know what I find interesting is when people walk the line, 'believing' in EVERYTHING the party they follow believes in, unable to think for themselves. Its also pretty funny when people adopt their beliefs from their family, unable to think for themselves, they take on their parents beliefs. My views are my own and no one else’s. There are many issues that I disagree with my family on and have no problem debating with them. My mother’s family is predominately Republican, and my father’s family is predominately Democratic, so either way, someone would say I was ‘adopting the beliefs of my family’. My mother was conservative and usually voted Republican, and my father was liberal and usually voted Independent. Just because you rebelled against your family, and decided to choose the opposite view in every area, does not mean you are a ‘free thinker’. A true free thinker probably won’t completely agree or completely disagree, but be somewhere in between. It would be interesting if people like you Tori would open your eyes and see that the Republicans and their belief systems walk right over people in your position in life. The Democrats are enablers to people like me? They want people like me to be dependant so that we will keep them in office. If there is one thing I am against, it is dependence. Nothing makes me sicker than to see those who leech off of the system without giving anything back to it. That is what Democrats create. I have had more policy passed to actually help me by Republicans, than by Democrats. I prefer stepping stones to handouts. I know the belief system of Republicans, and I would love to hear which part of it you think walks right over people like me. Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToriAllen Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I did not know you HAD to vote in Austrailia AND you could be fined if you didn't. Builder, are you saying you can never vote again? Here in the US the bleeding heart Liberals want to make sure that even Felons once they have gotten out of jail retain their right too vote...even though traditionally having been convicted of a felony they give up certain rights even once they are out of prison. Are you an Independent, or have you just not realized yet that bleeding heart liberals and Democrats are the same thing? Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalfind Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Are you an Independent, or have you just not realized yet that bleeding heart liberals and Democrats are the same thing? I am an independent...I think they're ALL full of SHIT, in any given election, its like choosing the less of all the evils... Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 Originally Posted by Lethalfind I did not know you HAD to vote in Austrailia AND you could be fined if you didn't. Builder, are you saying you can never vote again? Here in the US the bleeding heart Liberals want to make sure that even Felons once they have gotten out of jail retain their right too vote...even though traditionally having been convicted of a felony they give up certain rights even once they are out of prison. I'm back on the roll now. It was handy being off the electoral roll during my "gypsy" phase, lasting about eight years. The push here at the mo is to stop convicted felons from their right to cast a vote. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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