VENEZUELANS REJECT CHAVEZ'S PLANS! HEY LIEBERALS, ARE YOU PAYINGATTENTION???

[Guest Pierre Honeyman]

On Dec 3, 10:04 am, SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:15:58 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"

>

> <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:

>

> >> The hatred of the right wing for this fine, democratic leader is

> >> understandable.

> >More on how your fine left wing dicator operates:

>

> He asked the people through a referendum if he could have more power

> and the people said no through the ballot box.

>

> And now you call him a "dictator" - as if dictators hold referenda!

 

Sure they do.

 

Pierre

[Guest Herbert Cannon]

>> I see you're a martial arts and gun freak. Why am I not surprised?

>

> Someone who believes that he has not only the right but a

> reponsibility to protect himself and his family; what exactly is it

> about this that bothers you? Do you honestly believe that the

> government can protect you from everything? Have you not noticed fact

> that violent crime tends to RISE in areas where people are deprived of

> their rights regarding self-defense?

 

You really did not expect to be able to answer those questions did you?

I mean he wanders over to a martial arts news group and calls everyone a

freak. I would love to see him wander into some dojos I have been in and do

the same. At best he would be asked to leave. At worst he would be tossed

out the door headfirst. I suspect he would hang around long enough to

experience the latter.

[Guest Herbert Cannon]

"SteveL" <stevelon@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote in message

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> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:15:58 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"

> <hcannon18@cox.net> wrote:

>

>>

>>> The hatred of the right wing for this fine, democratic leader is

>>> understandable.

>>More on how your fine left wing dicator operates:

>

> He asked the people through a referendum if he could have more power

> and the people said no through the ballot box.

>

> And now you call him a "dictator" - as if dictators hold referenda!

 

Well Saddam was elected with 100 % of the vote and now look at Putin back in

like Flynn. Tell me the KGB does not control Russia.

>

> LOL. You've got you labels and definitions mixed up somewhere

>

> Just a story about the background to the referendum.

>

> Do you always think in a circle?

 

Do you always fail to think at all?

[Guest Shuurai]

> > Ah, yes... the mantra of socialism. Help people overcome the problems

> > you imposed on them in the first place. All because you're the ones

> > who care.

>

> So, when are you signing up for Iraq, tough guy? I promise, I'll see

> you off at the airport. Have a nice trip.

 

LOL! You know, it really ought not surpise me that you resorted to

this... just didn't expect to see it so early. Tell me something -

what does anything we were discussing so far have to do with Iraq?

 

Let's see... gun rights, the potential mortgage bailouts, socialism

in general... I just don't see anything about Iraq in there. If you

can explain why you chose to pull Iraq out of your ass then by all

means do so - hell, I welcome the entertainment. But frankly both you

and I know that the only wise option you have is to slink away

quietly... because you and I both know that you blurted "Iraq"

automatically because you couldn't think of anything better to say.

Pretty lame.

 

How can you expect to be taken seriously if the only thing you can

respond with is knee-jerk, bumper-sticker reponses that aren't even

related to what is being talked about?

[Guest Herbert Cannon]

.. If you

> can explain why you chose to pull Iraq out of your ass then by all

> means do so - hell, I welcome the entertainment.

 

I think we have pretty well established that should be dumbass and not, "

ass."

[Guest Shuurai]

> > > So, when are you signing up for Iraq, tough guy? I promise, I'll see

> > > you off at the airport. Have a nice trip.

>

> > Right after you sign up for an NGO in the Sudan, Mr. Save the World. I

> > promise I will see you off at the airport. Have a nice trip.

>

> But..But...But...aren't you going to defend us against all those

> Muslim terrorists just the way George Bush wants you to?

 

Note that you start off with the premise of being defended by someone

else. That is the root of your problem, son. I realize you think

you're just being a smart-ass, but deep down, you really DO believe

that "someone" needs to keep you safe, and you've put your faith in

the government being that someone. Trouble is, the government can't

do it; never has had that power, never will.

> What's all all that martial arts and all those guns for, unless to defend the

> country?

 

To protect ourselves and our loved ones against whatever happens to

threaten them; far more likely to be crime than "terror" of any kind,

but in the end it really doesn't matter. Most of us who train will

hopefully never need it; but better to have it and never need it than

need it and never have it.

> ARE YOU A COWARD!!!??

 

Are you?

> You gun-freak loon?

 

Do you have anything that doesn't fit on a bumper sticker?

[Guest travisgod@aol.cominyrface]

On Dec 3, 11:56 am, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Dec 3, 10:50 am, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:

>

> > Which> is why Latin America is going communist. Thank George Bush: Bush =

> > > "Instant Communism"!

>

> > Should we also thank George Bush for the Venezuelan people seeing through

> > your fine left wing dictator and rejecting him as dictator for life? Face it

> > dim wit the people of South America make there own choices for better or

> > worse and have to live with them. Unlike you, they should not blame someone

> > else for their fuckups.

>

> I see you're a martial arts and gun freak. Why am I not surprised?

>

> I realize the concept that people should work together to try to solve

> social problems would be difficult for someone who sees destruction

> and killing as the only useful forms of social interaction to

> comprehend, but there are, believe it or not, other ways of doing

> things.

>

> Actually, you've already lost. The only way to keep the U.S. economy

> going to move to the left -- socialism. That's why they're arranging

> to freeze mortgage payments. You know, getting the government to help

> people with their problems. The kind of stuff people like you really

> hate.

 

You cannot be this insane. You honestly believe that the gov't

attempting to post-facto set the coupon rate of bonds is a good thing?

 

If you like socialism, you must love George Bush...the biggest spender

in history.

 

Trav

[Guest Shuurai]

On Dec 3, 1:04 pm, SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:15:58 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"

>

> <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:

>

> >> The hatred of the right wing for this fine, democratic leader is

> >> understandable.

> >More on how your fine left wing dicator operates:

>

> He asked the people through a referendum if he could have more power

> and the people said no through the ballot box.

 

Saddam had elections, too, and routinely won 100% of the vote. Do you

actually believe those elections meant anything?

> And now you call him a "dictator" - as if dictators hold referenda!

 

Anyone can hold referenda - whether or not they follow the results is

the question. Be interesting to see what he does when it's time to

actually step down.

>

> Do you always think in a circle?

 

Thinking along a line can be just as bad.

[Guest Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 3, 12:53 pm, Shuurai <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > > So, when are you signing up for Iraq, tough guy? I promise, I'll see

> > > > you off at the airport. Have a nice trip.

>

> > > Right after you sign up for an NGO in the Sudan, Mr. Save the World. I

> > > promise I will see you off at the airport. Have a nice trip.

>

> > But..But...But...aren't you going to defend us against all those

> > Muslim terrorists just the way George Bush wants you to?

>

> Note that you start off with the premise of being defended by someone

> else. That is the root of your problem, son. I realize you think

> you're just being a smart-ass, but deep down, you really DO believe

> that "someone" needs to keep you safe, and you've put your faith in

> the government being that someone. Trouble is, the government can't

> do it; never has had that power, never will.

>

> > What's all all that martial arts and all those guns for, unless to defend the

> > country?

>

> To protect ourselves and our loved ones against whatever happens to

> threaten them; far more likely to be crime than "terror" of any kind,

> but in the end it really doesn't matter. Most of us who train will

> hopefully never need it; but better to have it and never need it than

> need it and never have it.

>

> > ARE YOU A COWARD!!!??

>

> Are you?

>

> > You gun-freak loon?

>

> Do you have anything that doesn't fit on a bumper sticker?

 

Let me see. I've never really dealt with this many gun-freak loons at

once. No brains. Just a fetish for guns. Do you sleep with them?

Do you have sex with them? Does seeing a Magnum 45 make you go weak

in the knees?

 

Do you think a gun will protect you against plastic explosives? Do

you think a gun will protect you against nuclear weapons? Are you

looking forward to the day when civilization collapses, and you can

shoot anyone you want, anytime you want? Are you trying to bring that

time about?

[Guest Bert Hyman]

jkraus_1906@yahoo.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote in

news:0c31b7d3-d133-40d3-913b-471e71ff6c11@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com

:

> Do you have sex with them?

 

Well, that didn't take long.

 

Why is it only the anti-gun folks who ever associate guns with sex?

 

--

Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

[Guest Mark Goldberg]

Jerry Kraus wrote:

 

> I see you're a martial arts and gun freak.

 

He's a father, parent, former soldier in service to his nation, a

neighbor, a friend, a curious viewer of politics, a man who enjoys self

defense, a man who enjoys sharing his sense of security and honor with

his neighbors and colleagues.

Why am I not surprised?

 

Because you are a pimp... and he's a man.

>

> I realize the concept that people should work together to try to solve

> social problems would be difficult for someone who sees destruction

> and killing as the only useful forms of social interaction to

> comprehend, but there are, believe it or not, other ways of doing

> things.

>

> Actually, you've already lost. The only way to keep the U.S. economy

> going to move to the left -- socialism.

 

And the deaths of 150 million due to marxism, and the destruction of

their entire economies, and destruction of the principles of liberty,

all of which were rejected except by the left wing pimps who prattle...

like yourself, about nothing, nothing at all.

 

Pure vapor.

And how about the anniversary last week of the 4-10 million Stalin

starved with his collectivizations? and all the other anniversary's of

marxist economic destruction.

 

You dumb pimp, you dumbass cross posting leftist... why am I not surprised?

 

Mark

[Guest Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 3, 1:06 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:

> jkraus_1...@yahoo.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote innews:0c31b7d3-d133-40d3-913b-471e71ff6c11@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com

> :

>

> > Do you have sex with them?

>

> Well, that didn't take long.

>

> Why is it only the anti-gun folks who ever associate guns with sex?

>

> --

> Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | b...@iphouse.com

 

Bert, what's there to like about guns, exactly? They're a means of

killing people. They have no other function.

[Guest Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 3, 1:06 pm, Mark Goldberg <msgoldb...@optonline.net> wrote:

> Jerry Kraus wrote:

> > I see you're a martial arts and gun freak.

>

> He's a father, parent, former soldier in service to his nation, a

> neighbor, a friend, a curious viewer of politics, a man who enjoys self

> defense, a man who enjoys sharing his sense of security and honor with

> his neighbors and colleagues.

> Why am I not surprised?

>

> Because you are a pimp... and he's a man.

>

>

>

> > I realize the concept that people should work together to try to solve

> > social problems would be difficult for someone who sees destruction

> > and killing as the only useful forms of social interaction to

> > comprehend, but there are, believe it or not, other ways of doing

> > things.

>

> > Actually, you've already lost. The only way to keep the U.S. economy

> > going to move to the left -- socialism.

>

> And the deaths of 150 million due to marxism, and the destruction of

> their entire economies, and destruction of the principles of liberty,

> all of which were rejected except by the left wing pimps who prattle...

> like yourself, about nothing, nothing at all.

>

> Pure vapor.

> And how about the anniversary last week of the 4-10 million Stalin

> starved with his collectivizations? and all the other anniversary's of

> marxist economic destruction.

>

> You dumb pimp, you dumbass cross posting leftist... why am I not surprised?

>

> Mark

 

Now, now, Mark. Let's not decry your "jewish heritage". Marx was a

fine philosopher and a good man. And Communism is really just applied

Judaism, when properly understood. And the Chinese have done quite

well with Marxism, thankyou very much.

[Guest Bert Hyman]

jkraus_1906@yahoo.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote in

news:56ed836d-a325-4241-9600-5e6ea2da53a8@r60g2000hsc.googlegroups.com

:

> On Dec 3, 1:06 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:

>> jkraus_1...@yahoo.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote

>> innews:0c31b7d3-d133-40d3-913b-471e71ff6c11@n20g2000hsh.googlegroup

>> s.com

>> :

>>

>> > Do you have sex with them?

>>

>> Well, that didn't take long.

>>

>> Why is it only the anti-gun folks who ever associate guns with

>> sex?

>

> Bert, what's there to like about guns, exactly?

 

What is it that you hate about guns, exactly? Is the sexual

attraction they hold for you frightening?

> They're a means of killing people.

 

Among other things, and as are many other things.

> They have no other function.

 

You've been misinformed.

 

--

Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

[Guest Bert Hyman]

jkraus_1906@yahoo.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote in

news:ec3b1c82-737a-47ed-921f-2a8d2efe661e@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

> And Communism is really just applied Judaism, when properly

> understood.

 

You really are an idiot.

 

--

Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

[Guest Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 3, 1:11 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:

> jkraus_1...@yahoo.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote innews:56ed836d-a325-4241-9600-5e6ea2da53a8@r60g2000hsc.googlegroups.com

> :

>

> > On Dec 3, 1:06 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:

> >> jkraus_1...@yahoo.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote

> >> innews:0c31b7d3-d133-40d3-913b-471e71ff6c11@n20g2000hsh.googlegroup

> >> s.com

> >> :

>

> >> > Do you have sex with them?

>

> >> Well, that didn't take long.

>

> >> Why is it only the anti-gun folks who ever associate guns with

> >> sex?

>

> > Bert, what's there to like about guns, exactly?

>

> What is it that you hate about guns, exactly? Is the sexual

> attraction they hold for you frightening?

>

> > They're a means of killing people.

>

> Among other things, and as are many other things.

>

> > They have no other function.

>

> You've been misinformed.

>

> --

> Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | b...@iphouse.com

 

Well, I suppose guns can be used as a means of coercion, based on the

threat of killing. That seems to be the essential attraction of them

to the gun lobby. They aren't really a means of obtaining food

anymore, for the vast majority of the population, the vast majority of

the time.

 

Actually, I think the appeal of guns is essentially fascist. "Hey

I've got a gun!!! You can't mess with me!!!" Sounds pretty Freudian

to me. Like they're missing something somewhere else!

[Guest Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 3, 1:12 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:

> jkraus_1...@yahoo.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote innews:ec3b1c82-737a-47ed-921f-2a8d2efe661e@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

>

> > And Communism is really just applied Judaism, when properly

> > understood.

>

> You really are an idiot.

>

> --

> Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | b...@iphouse.com

 

Then why are you wasting my time with your mindless replies?

[Guest Bert Hyman]

jkraus_1906@yahoo.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote in

news:9f25ba59-ecff-44e2-b705-0a7b05239d8a@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com

:

> They aren't really a means of obtaining food anymore, for the vast

> majority of the population, the vast majority of the time.

 

Keep hanging qualifiers on there and you might eventually come

close to something reasonable. But you have a long way to go.

> Actually, I think the appeal of guns is essentially fascist.

 

Then what's your problem with them?

 

--

Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

[Guest Bert Hyman]

jkraus_1906@yahoo.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote in

news:cb393363-38f9-4709-a5c9-77662b5af5bb@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com

:

> On Dec 3, 1:12 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:

>> jkraus_1...@yahoo.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote

>> innews:ec3b1c82-737a-47ed-921f-2a8d2efe661e@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups

>> .com:

>>

>> > And Communism is really just applied Judaism, when properly

>> > understood.

>>

>> You really are an idiot.

>

> Then why are you wasting my time with your mindless replies?

 

How are my replies wasting your time?

 

But then, you are an idiot, aren't you?

 

--

Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

[Guest Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 3, 1:19 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:

> jkraus_1...@yahoo.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote innews:cb393363-38f9-4709-a5c9-77662b5af5bb@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com

> :

>

> > On Dec 3, 1:12 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:

> >> jkraus_1...@yahoo.com (Jerry Kraus) wrote

> >> innews:ec3b1c82-737a-47ed-921f-2a8d2efe661e@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups

> >> .com:

>

> >> > And Communism is really just applied Judaism, when properly

> >> > understood.

>

> >> You really are an idiot.

>

> > Then why are you wasting my time with your mindless replies?

>

> How are my replies wasting your time?

>

> But then, you are an idiot, aren't you?

>

> --

> Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | b...@iphouse.com

 

Bert, go away. You're saying nothing, and you know it. Go off and

play.

[Guest Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 3, 1:26 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:

> "Shuurai" <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>

> news:524be4bd-5334-420b-831c-c38bb5728bd9@e67g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

>

> > On Dec 3, 1:04 pm, SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote:

> > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:15:58 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"

>

> > > <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:

>

> > > >> The hatred of the right wing for this fine, democratic leader is

> > > >> understandable.

> > > >More on how your fine left wing dicator operates:

>

> > > He asked the people through a referendum if he could have more power

> > > and the people said no through the ballot box.

>

> > Saddam had elections, too, and routinely won 100% of the vote. Do you

> > actually believe those elections meant anything?

>

> Pretty common in the former communist block as well.

>

> --

> David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"

> mailto:dburkh...@sff.net "While we live, let us live."

> My webcomic Cold Servingshttp://www.coldservings.com-- Back from hiatus!

> Updates Wednesdays

 

Pretty common in the fantasyland inhabited by right-wing loons, as

well.

[Guest David L. Burkhead]

"Shuurai" <Shuurai11@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Dec 3, 1:04 pm, SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote:

> > On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:15:58 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"

> >

> > <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:

> >

> > >> The hatred of the right wing for this fine, democratic leader is

> > >> understandable.

> > >More on how your fine left wing dicator operates:

> >

> > He asked the people through a referendum if he could have more power

> > and the people said no through the ballot box.

>

> Saddam had elections, too, and routinely won 100% of the vote. Do you

> actually believe those elections meant anything?

 

Pretty common in the former communist block as well.

 

 

--

David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"

mailto:dburkhead@sff.net "While we live, let us live."

My webcomic Cold Servings

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Updates Wednesdays

[Guest David L. Burkhead]

"Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1906@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> On Dec 3, 1:26 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:

> > "Shuurai" <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> >

> >

news:524be4bd-5334-420b-831c-c38bb5728bd9@e67g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

> >

> > > On Dec 3, 1:04 pm, SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote:

> > > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:15:58 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"

> >

> > > > <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:

> >

> > > > >> The hatred of the right wing for this fine, democratic leader is

> > > > >> understandable.

> > > > >More on how your fine left wing dicator operates:

> >

> > > > He asked the people through a referendum if he could have more power

> > > > and the people said no through the ballot box.

> >

> > > Saddam had elections, too, and routinely won 100% of the vote. Do you

> > > actually believe those elections meant anything?

> >

> > Pretty common in the former communist block as well.

> Pretty common in the fantasyland inhabited by right-wing loons, as

> well.

 

This person you characterize as a "right wing loon" has actually talked

to people (literally, face to face) with people who were there and knew

_exactly_ how those "referendums" in the former Soviet Union and other

Warsaw Pact nations were handled--who had actually voted in some of them.

 

What's your experience? What's your evidence?

 

Do you actually have any or is your argument style just to take

contentless pot-shots at people who disagree with you? You do know what the

fallacy of an "argument ad hominem" is, don't you?

 

Your implication, via the "how many" question, that dictators don't hold

referendums stands refuted by example.

 

--

David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"

mailto:dburkhead@sff.net "While we live, let us live."

My webcomic Cold Servings

http://www.coldservings.com -- Back from hiatus!

Updates Wednesdays

[Guest Jerry Kraus]

On Dec 3, 1:43 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:

> "Jerry Kraus" <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>

> news:2a7edc23-a929-49e8-94a8-66dac6ac9dbd@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...> On Dec 3, 1:26 pm, "David L. Burkhead" <dburkh...@sff.net> wrote:

> > > "Shuurai" <Shuura...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>

> news:524be4bd-5334-420b-831c-c38bb5728bd9@e67g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > > On Dec 3, 1:04 pm, SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote:

> > > > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:15:58 -0600, "Herbert Cannon"

>

> > > > > <hcanno...@cox.net> wrote:

>

> > > > > >> The hatred of the right wing for this fine, democratic leader is

> > > > > >> understandable.

> > > > > >More on how your fine left wing dicator operates:

>

> > > > > He asked the people through a referendum if he could have more power

> > > > > and the people said no through the ballot box.

>

> > > > Saddam had elections, too, and routinely won 100% of the vote. Do you

> > > > actually believe those elections meant anything?

>

> > > Pretty common in the former communist block as well.

> > Pretty common in the fantasyland inhabited by right-wing loons, as

> > well.

>

> This person you characterize as a "right wing loon" has actually talked

> to people (literally, face to face) with people who were there and knew

> _exactly_ how those "referendums" in the former Soviet Union and other

> Warsaw Pact nations were handled--who had actually voted in some of them.

>

> What's your experience? What's your evidence?

>

> Do you actually have any or is your argument style just to take

> contentless pot-shots at people who disagree with you? You do know what the

> fallacy of an "argument ad hominem" is, don't you?

>

> Your implication, via the "how many" question, that dictators don't hold

> referendums stands refuted by example.

>

> --

> David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"

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Judging from your inability to string together more than three words

in sequence with correct english syntax, I'm a bit skeptical regarding

your ability to grasp the issues involved. I'm assuming, simply from

the name you use, that you are in fact a native english speaker.

Otherwise, I would have assumed you were actually from one of the

former Soviet Republics, and had had limited educational opportunities

there.

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> > Do you have anything that doesn't fit on a bumper sticker?

>

> Let me see. I've never really dealt with this many gun-freak loons at

> once. No brains.

 

Yeah, I can imagine how dealing with TWO WHOLE PEOPLE might be

overwealming for someone in your condition. Please, take your time -

with SO MANY of us ganging up on you I can understand how you might be

feeling a little flustered :b

> Just a fetish for guns. Do you sleep with them?

> Do you have sex with them?

 

No... can't say that I have... in fact the only folks I ever hear

suggesting such things are folks such as yourself. You may want to

consider seeing someone professionally about this - might be some

deep, unresolved issues lurking.

> Does seeing a Magnum 45 make you go weak in the knees?

 

Depends on which end I'm standing on I suppose.

> Do you think a gun will protect you against plastic explosives?

 

That would depend of course on when I saw the guy with the plastic

explosives...

 

Obviously a gun isn't going to offer protection from everything; but

neither does it need to. There are more than enough perfectly

legitimate things that it can protect against.

 

I do know for an absolute fact that it will protect me from someone

trying to break into my home late at night. I also know that it will

protect me from some asshole trying to rob me in a parking lot.

> Do you think a gun will protect you against nuclear weapons?

 

Nope. Nor will it protect me against earthquakes, tornadoes, floods,

or giant meteors. Is this the best you can do? Pick the biggest and

dumbest exaggeration that you can think of and smugly declare that it

proves something about your argument?

 

Or - and I really hate to even think this - are you actually stupid

enough to believe that what you said above was somehow clever?

> Are you looking forward to the day when civilization collapses, and you can

> shoot anyone you want, anytime you want? Are you trying to bring that time about?

 

I guess we know the answer now.