Pride Marching

[ParasiteGod]

While speaking with a friend of mine, he says

"Next Saturday's the Gay Pride march here in Mexico city, which I think is shit." My friend is gay.

And you know something? I really fucking hate the concept of a pride march/parade, of any kind.

Now don't get me wrong here. I'm not into hating people based on race, orientation, religion, or anything like that. But I just really hate how you get these minority groups that will bitch about being discirminated against and then they march up and down the street about how they're different. How is it that five minutes ago we were all the same and now you're parading about how damn different you are?

Give me a fucking break.

[TerroristHater]

While speaking with a friend of mine, he says

"Next Saturday's the Gay Pride march here in Mexico city, which I think is shit." My friend is gay.

And you know something? I really fucking hate the concept of a pride march/parade, of any kind.

Now don't get me wrong here. I'm not into hating people based on race, orientation, religion, or anything like that. But I just really hate how you get these minority groups that will bitch about being discirminated against and then they march up and down the street about how they're different. How is it that five minutes ago we were all the same and now you're parading about how damn different you are?

Give me a fucking break.

 

 

Good point....and frightfully well said. Although, being different is what makes America great.

[Lethalfind]

While speaking with a friend of mine, he says

"Next Saturday's the Gay Pride march here in Mexico city, which I think is shit." My friend is gay.

And you know something? I really fucking hate the concept of a pride march/parade, of any kind.

Now don't get me wrong here. I'm not into hating people based on race, orientation, religion, or anything like that. But I just really hate how you get these minority groups that will bitch about being discirminated against and then they march up and down the street about how they're different. How is it that five minutes ago we were all the same and now you're parading about how damn different you are?

Give me a fucking break.

 

Do you have a suggestion on how these groups could take a proactive, peaceful way to acquaint people outside of their group with their struggles to be treated like normal people?

[jokersarewild]

Do you have a suggestion on how these groups could take a proactive, peaceful way to acquaint people outside of their group with their struggles to be treated like normal people?

 

Book/fashion club.

[Lethalfind]

Book/fashion club.

 

LOL, yea that'll work...

[ParasiteGod]

Do you have a suggestion on how these groups could take a proactive, peaceful way to acquaint people outside of their group with their struggles to be treated like normal people?

I think if they want to "be treated like normal people", then devoting an entire parade to them being so "different" from "normal people" is a stupid thing to do. So, you know, don't do it.

[Komrade Vostok Hazard]

....no one is forcing you to show up.

 

I actually attended one of these events a little while ago. I found it to be more of a festival than a movement for queers with a cause. There were a shitload of HETROSEXUAL couples and gasp entire families (As in MALE father, FEMALE mother and THEIR OWN KIDS) showing up for the damn thing. And with the cute bi and straight-but-not-narrow chicks in attendance...you can't really go wrong.

 

And also, how is a gay event any different than any of the other events centered around different cultures/subcultures?

[ParasiteGod]

It's not different. I didn't say it was.

No one's forcing me to show up, and I don't, because I think it's stupid.

Straight people showed up, good for them. I don't care.

This thread wasn't about me saying how much I hate (insert minority here). In fact, I'm one of the last people on earth you could expect to hate gay people, and if I divuldged more information about myself now and then, you'd know why. In fact, I can't name any minority group I have a problem with.

My point was, people will make a fuss about how everyone's the same, and then they have a parade about how they're different. I guess what I'm trying to say is make up your mind.

[Lethalfind]

It's not different. I didn't say it was.

No one's forcing me to show up, and I don't, because I think it's stupid.

Straight people showed up, good for them. I don't care.

This thread wasn't about me saying how much I hate (insert minority here). In fact, I'm one of the last people on earth you could expect to hate gay people, and if I divuldged more information about myself now and then, you'd know why. In fact, I can't name any minority group I have a problem with.

My point was, people will make a fuss about how everyone's the same, and then they have a parade about how they're different. I guess what I'm trying to say is make up your mind.

 

I think the way the American government treats Gay couples pretty much proves there is a differance, whether in fact there should be or not...I mean do you know any other group that the government wants to make it illegal for them to marry...some states won't allow them to adopt at all never mind jointly? How about allowing a gay person to carry their lover on their insurance. If I were Gay I would want to shove it in the face of every bible beater out there just to get their shorts in a bunch over it.

 

I think the idea of these kinds of events for whatever group is so that people can get too know them and not feel like they are so different because that is in my opinion racism is, hatred and fear of the differences between yourself and them.

[ToriAllen]

The absolute worst way to try and gain acceptance is through force. There is nothing I hate worse than having an idea/belief/value thrown in my face. When someone who is on the fence about a certain issue meets a pushy person, they typically move in the opposite direction. It is repulsive. I am a Christian and I feel uncomfortable with pushy Bible thumping Christians. Pride Parades do not educate anyone about the 'hardships' of minorities. The parades as designed as a way of saying, 'we are here to stay and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it.' I happen to have a problem with that attitude, even when I agree with the cause.

 

As my father put it, “Laughter is the doorway to acceptance.” Most of the controversial ideas have been introduced and slowly integrated into our society through Comedies and TV sitcoms. That’s what works. Once people are no longer afraid of an idea, and can drop their guard long enough to veiw it in a light hearted way, it becomes easier to accept. Who can hate something that makes them laugh? In summery…Pushy = Repulsive…Laughter = Acceptance.

[Kryptonite Man]

Tori, truer, more logical words were never spoken!

[snafu]

I guess we should allow the NABLA pride marches to accrue also.

[Lethalfind]

I think the Gay community has been behaving themselves long enough...I think its time to send a message, people can continue to bible thump, condemn and so forth but there here to stay...At some point you have to have a back bone and tell people to shove their bullshit up their ass...Having a Gay parade is SO far from being pushy...

 

IF the loving Christians who condemn being Gay aren't pushy then who is? In some states Gay bashing is a pass time rather then something illegal.

 

I enjoy every little news article of the Seriously commited Christians who turns out to be fiddling the neighborhood boys AND the man who is so active in his church who is sleeping with his neighbors husband....I get a HUGE fuckin laugh out of that shit.

[builder]

The gay MardisGras in Sydney Australia has become a national icon, drawing crowds and tourists in ever-increasing numbers.

 

I recall one or two detractors over the years. Not sure where they are now, but the parade goes on, growing in size and popularity every year.

 

Might be the costumes?

[ToriAllen]

I think the Gay community has been behaving themselves long enough...I think its time to send a message, people can continue to bible thump, condemn and so forth but there here to stay...

You would. You have the pushy in-your-face attitude. So every group that has ever been persecuted by anyone should go out and raise hell? Do you think that Christians aren

[Lethalfind]

You would. You have the pushy in-your-face attitude. So every group that has ever been persecuted by anyone should go out and raise hell? Do you think that Christians aren

[Komrade Vostok Hazard]

A lot of so-called christians out there just use Jesus as an excuse to be a morally superior bigot. And most gay bashers don't do it because of religion, but they do it because 1) they see it as taboo, and can't pull the stick out of their ass and 2) because they're plainly bigoted. In other words, not all homophobes are christian.

 

I agree with Tori in the sense that the pedophile priests and all that shit are rather just clever predators who use christianity as a way to make themselves look like good people (and to get close to little altar boys). After all, in a bible thumping community, how dare someone question or speak ill of a man of god.

 

 

A pride march is hardly pushy at all and is really no different than any other parade or organized event. Maybe if gay people were going door to door passing out gay-related material and going around telling that people will end up somewhere bad if they don't think the way they want them to, then yea you can say that they're a bit pushy with their cause. And if they were deep throating or fucking while at the pride rallies (They don't -- at least not what I've seen) I could understand people being pissed off about them "flaunting their sexuality. SEXUALITY HAS NO PLACE IN PUBLIC. PERIOD. The reason they have pride marches is because homosexuality has long been a taboo in mainstream society and it's their way of saying (in a peaceful manner) "This is what we are. Get used to it"

[ToriAllen]

I just don't see having a Gay pride parade or a Puerto Rican American parade as being pushy and shoving something in peoples faces. I guess you would feel that way if you hate people from that group...but frankly who cares if someone wants to have a parade to celebrate who they are? The only thing that would bother me is getting caught in the traffic, certainly not what group was demonstrating.

I don’t find it to be pushy because I hate homosexuality. In fact, I have very dear friends and close family who are homosexual, and I do not love them any less. Actually, I couldn’t care less. Love is love in my opinion. The part that I find to be pushy about any kind of minority parades, women’s rights parades included (by the way, I’m a woman and I don’t hate me), is that if a majority tried to have a parade it would be considered racist, sexist, or taken to be anti-minority. What if there was a heterosexual pride parade, or a white pride parade, or better yet a heterosexual, white male pride parade. How do you think that would go over?

I think you took my statement of enjoyment too literally...

I did that on purpose. I wanted you to think about your wording and make your point in a way that better fit how you feel.

In fact I have read and been told by a friend who works with DCF (Department of Children and Families) that there is a higher occurence of child sexual abuse among those that claim to be Christian.

I wouldn’t think that would be difficult considering over 80% of Americans claim to be Christian. I know a lot of people who claim to be Democrats/Republicans, yet they have never voted and couldn’t tell you what any of the party’s core issues are. A lot of people claim to be something because that is what their parents were.

As far as saying then they are not real Christians...of course they can't be because Christ (if he exists) would never sanction that kind of behavior, however you can't ever tell whats in a person's heart. If being a peadophile is a sickness that can't be cured then theorhetically, someone can be both a peadophile and love Christ as well, the love of Christ (in my opinion) can't spontaneouly heal what has to be a deep inborn abnormality rather then a learned behavior.

I thought your enjoyment of those situations lay in the fact that these people were acting in a way that was contrary to the core beliefs that make up Christianity. Now, you are defending their actions as being caused by illness. They can’t help it? Doesn’t that detract from your enjoyment of conflicting values?

I agree with Tori…

Holy Shit! That’s going in my diary…

After all, in a bible thumping community, how dare someone question or speak ill of a man of god.

Oh trust me it happens all the time. No one gossips like an old Christian woman. Especially the Catholics.

 

A pride march is hardly pushy at all and is really no different than any other parade or organized event.

Refer to below…

Maybe if gay people were going door to door passing out gay-related material and going around telling that people will end up somewhere bad if they don't think the way they want them to, then yea you can say that they're a bit pushy with their cause.

No one likes the Jehovah’s Witnesses or Mormon’s. They are like the Bastard son’s of Christianity.

And if they were deep throating or fucking while at the pride rallies (They don't -- at least not what I've seen) I could understand people being pissed off about them "flaunting their sexuality. SEXUALITY HAS NO PLACE IN PUBLIC. PERIOD.

That depends on which country you are in, and in some cases, which US city.

The reason they have pride marches is because homosexuality has long been a taboo in mainstream society and it's their way of saying (in a peaceful manner) "This is what we are. Get used to it"

Making that kind of statement is pushy. Of-course, I consider the Christians that stand on the side of the road with anti-homosexual posters to be pushy, as well. That is also a peaceful way to show ones opinion but I just don’t agree with it. I think in some cases and with some issues people keep the controversy going with this tit-for-tat, back and forth mentality. I am as much turned off by pushy ‘you better accept me or else’ homosexuals as I am the ‘you better accept God or else’ Christians. It is an attitude I really don’t care to be around.

[RenJen]

my opinion, take it or leave it....

 

who really cares if gay people want to get together and march(or get married)? I dont. Its not like we all have to be a part of it.

 

It might be unneccessary to some, but it doesnt directly effect your life does it?

[ImWithStupid]

my opinion, take it or leave it....

 

who really cares if gay people want to get together and march(or get married)? I dont. Its not like we all have to be a part of it.

 

It might be unneccessary to some, but it doesnt directly effect your life does it?

 

Appearantly, nobody, since you are the only one to comment on this thread in over a month.

 

Thanks anyway.

 

At least stayed on topic.

[eisanbt]

Its commented on because it's pride week foo.

 

As for the parade, its got more than one purpose. I'm not gay, but I look forawrd to the pride parade every year because its general fun. All week you'll see the "Ladies", overly done up and being foolish, not because that is their life-style year round, its just foolish enjoyment. And when Darlene, the mightiest Real-Estate agent in town, tours the city flexing in her 1950s mockery of "You can do it yourself girls!" advertising, laughs are never far... Which gains acceptance. I guess everyone just dosn't have the same sense of humour, how odd....

 

I'm making a point to wear my tightest pants all week, times are good and these good times are ment to make people more comfortable with gay people. Society is well off from full acceptance and apathy concerning anything they do. Creating this comfort also allows for those who are unsure of themselves to become more chill, realize they're not monsters and start enjoying life as everyone else does.

 

Horray for pride week.