Iraqi: U.S. bodies showed signs of torture

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[/url]AP - An Iraqi military official said Tuesday that the bodies of two missing U.S. soldiers showed signs of torture, and that the men appeared to have been killed "in a barbaric way." Meanwhile, the umbrella group for Iraq insurgents said the man who succeeded Abu Musab al-Zarqawi killed the two soldiers.

 

 

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[snafu]

As the Islamic assholes would say they were Martyrs. Their deaths will only strengthen our resolve. They will pay with their own pig shit blood.

[Kryptonite Man]

Amen to that! Here's hoping we get these cowardly motherfuckers and give them a dose of their own medicine! And if the libs don't like it, too fucking bad!!! :mad:

[builder]

If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander. War is hell.

 

 

Three US troops have been charged with murder for shooting three Iraqi prisoners and threatening to kill a fellow soldier who wanted to report the incident, the Pentagon said yesterday. The three men killed were among 200 Iraqis held after a raid on a former chemical factory south-west of Tikrit, Saddam Hussein's hometown, the Pentagon charge sheet said.

 

Not just killing people, but threatening to kill your own to cover your tracks is blatantly over the top.

 

Sickening, really.

[snafu]

If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander. War is hell.

 

 

 

 

Not just killing people, but threatening to kill your own to cover your tracks is blatantly over the top.

 

Sickening, really.

 

Yeah and we have some Marines and a Navy corpman that have been shackled 24/7 for a murder of a Iraqi man. What's good for the goose is good for the gander? that means we can start chopping off heads now I guess?

Stupid answer builder!

[TerroristHater]

Yeah and we have some Marines and a Navy corpman that have been shackled 24/7 for a murder of a Iraqi man. What's good for the goose is good for the gander? that means we can start chopping off heads now I guess?

Stupid answer builder!

 

 

I don't like this BS murder charge shit. If that man was harboring terrorists, he WAS a terrorist.

 

Fucking political circus

[snafu]

I don't like this BS murder charge shit. If that man was harboring terrorists, he WAS a terrorist.

 

Fucking political circus

 

No doubt! fucking liberals want to tie our hands.

[Hamza123]

Yeah and we have some Marines and a Navy corpman that have been shackled 24/7 for a murder of a Iraqi man. What's good for the goose is good for the gander? that means we can start chopping off heads now I guess?

Stupid answer builder!

 

Would you rather have a bomb dropped on you or be sent to jail for a few years?

[phreakwars]

Again, this is going right over every one's head.. The "BARBARIC TORTURE" that the news refers to, is the 2 men had their dicks cut off and shoved in their mouths.

 

These men were NOT killed by insurgents, they were killed by members of a village in retaliation for the rape and murder of a 15 year old girl and her family. Insurgent groups are just making a claim to the killing to give themselves credibility.

 

Crimes committed by the 1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade, 101st Airborne Division.

 

For some strange reason, the American (CONSERVATIVE) media doesn't put the pieces together...

 

Yeah, you go right ahead and make this a "LIBERAL" issue SNAFU. When the reality of it, is if some mother fucker raped your niece and killed her, then killed the rest of her family, you'd probably cut their dicks off and feed it to them too.

 

It's not a fucking "CRAZY RELIGIOUS MUSLIM INSURGENT" issue, it's plain and simple STREET JUSTICE.

 

The soldiers SHOULD be charged... as for the 2 Americans who died... well, they just should have kept their fucking dicks in their pants instead of raping a little girl in a foreign land now shouldn't have they ??

 

I have no sympathy, they got what they deserved.

 

CHECK OUT THIS ARTICLE

 

Wanna bitch MORE about LIBERALS exposing truths snafu ?

 

The alleged Zarqawi successor is in all actuality, sitting in prison in Egypt already

 

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A924A436-D330-42C8-83C3-FEAF91E6B326.htm

 

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[phreakwars]

And hell, while were on the subject of terrorism, I have a question for the "CONSERVATIVES"... why in the hell did George Bush stop looking for Bin Laden ?? Could it be a conspiracy ??

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060703/ap_on_re_eu/iraq_al_zarqawi

 

 

Here's a letter that that "LIBERAL BASTARD" John Kerry wrote to John D. Negroponte.

 

• July 6, 2006

 

 

 

The Honorable John D. Negroponte

 

Director of National Intelligence

 

Office of the Director of National Intelligence

Washington, DC 20511

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Director:

 

 

 

I write to express my concern over recent reports that the CIA has closed down the unit responsible for hunting down Osama bin Laden. This unit should be reconstituted immediately and given all resources necessary to finish the job of holding bin Laden accountable and preventing him from organizing or inspiring future attacks against the United States and our allies.

 

 

 

There is no question that since 9/11, al Qaeda has morphed into a global terrorist movement that transcends any one individual. The decision to divert resources from the crucial fight against bin Laden and al Qaeda to wage war on Iraq has made the task of eradicating this increasingly diffuse threat more difficult. We now face a long, difficult and multi-faceted struggle against global terrorism and the hateful ideology that inspires it.

 

 

 

I fully support efforts to adapt our response to the evolving nature of the threat, but this is not a compelling rationale for curtailing efforts to bring this mass murderer to justice. In fact, we cannot lose sight of the fact that eliminating bin Laden would still strike a key blow against al Qaeda and represent a significant step forward in the war on terror. Given what is at stake, our intelligence community should be given sufficient resources to both pursue bin Laden and prosecute the broader war on terror.

 

 

 

Moreover, disbanding the bin Laden unit sends the message to the terrorists that they can kill thousands of Americans without being held to account. Given that Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz was quoted this week as saying that

[snafu]

Again, this is going right over every one's head.. The "BARBARIC TORTURE" that the news refers to, is the 2 men had their dicks cut off and shoved in their mouths.

 

These men were NOT killed by insurgents, they were killed by members of a village in retaliation for the rape and murder of a 15 year old girl and her family. Insurgent groups are just making a claim to the killing to give themselves credibility.

 

Crimes committed by the 1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade, 101st Airborne Division.

 

For some strange reason, the American (CONSERVATIVE) media doesn't put the pieces together...

 

Yeah, you go right ahead and make this a "LIBERAL" issue SNAFU. When the reality of it, is if some mother fucker raped your niece and killed her, then killed the rest of her family, you'd probably cut their dicks off and feed it to them too.

 

It's not a fucking "CRAZY RELIGIOUS MUSLIM INSURGENT" issue, it's plain and simple STREET JUSTICE.

 

The soldiers SHOULD be charged... as for the 2 Americans who died... well, they just should have kept their fucking dicks in their pants instead of raping a little girl in a foreign land now shouldn't have they ??

 

I have no sympathy, they got what they deserved.

 

CHECK OUT THIS ARTICLE

 

Wanna bitch MORE about LIBERALS exposing truths snafu ?

 

The alleged Zarqawi successor is in all actuality, sitting in prison in Egypt already

 

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A924A436-D330-42C8-83C3-FEAF91E6B326.htm

 

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Ah yeah I’d like to bitch about liberals and their bullshit lies. But that's really not the topic here.

 

Street justice you say? The problem with good old fashion street justice is that they might get the wrong people. Nobody saw the crime! They killed innocent soldiers! Fuck that! Good old fashion street justice? How the fuck do you know the insurgents didn’t commit this to make it look like American soldiers did it?

Crimes committed by the 1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade, 101st Airborne Division.

Oh wait you said the whole battalion did it. Righttttt????

Conservative news probably wouldn’t jump to conclusions like that!

[snafu]

And hell, while were on the subject of terrorism, I have a question for the "CONSERVATIVES"... why in the hell did George Bush stop looking for Bin Laden ?? Could it be a conspiracy ??

 

• Yeah... it's the LIBERALS who are holding back everybody ain't it ??

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It's pretty easy to sit back and be an armchair quarter back. I could say the same thing but then again I'm not a pussy liberal.

[Hamza123]

Conservative news probably wouldn

[snafu]

You'd be surprised. Most conservative news producers would do anything in their power to sway a bias over a story in their favour.

 

Take FOX News for example.

Blablabla. I read half of it. It's old news. They did have money ties. But yes both sides are bias with their reporting. Liberals have ABC,CBS,NBC.CNN and conservatives used to have talk radio sewn up. The answer for Liberal TV was Fox. And the libs now have some talk radio. So what. That's a whole lot better than getting one side. I like to have them both even though I don't agree with most of the liberal stations.

[snafu]

You'd be surprised. Most conservative news producers would do anything in their power to sway a bias over a story in their favour.

 

Take FOX News for example.

Blablabla. I read half of it. It's old news. They did have money ties. But yes both sides are bias with their reporting. Liberals have ABC,CBS,NBC.CNN and conservatives used to have talk radio sewn up. The answer to counter Liberal TV was Fox. And the libs now have some talk radio. So what. That's a whole lot better than getting one side. I like to have them both even though I don't agree with most of the liberal stations.

I was being facetious with the conservative media comment.

[phreakwars]

Ah yeah I

[ImWithStupid]

No, I believe it was Liberals who only speak the truth....moving right along...

 

Conservatives just wanna hide truths, Liberals would rather face them head on.

 

WAKE UP MAN !!

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Bullshit.

 

Liberals, Conservatives, they all lie. Every politician with an agenda is going to lie and skew the information to support that agenda. Unfortunately politicians aren't held to any kind of scientific process to try to keep the information, statistics or results of anything somewhat honest. (of course the scientific method is also skewed by pharmaceutical company scientist to pass FDA and DEA bureaucratic red tape)

[ToriAllen]

Again, this is going right over every one's head.. The "BARBARIC TORTURE" that the news refers to, is the 2 men had their dicks cut off and shoved in their mouths.

These men were NOT killed by insurgents, they were killed by members of a village in retaliation for the rape and murder of a 15 year old girl and her family. Insurgent groups are just making a claim to the killing to give themselves credibility.

Crimes committed by the 1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade, 101st Airborne Division.

Yeah, you go right ahead and make this a "LIBERAL" issue SNAFU. When the reality of it, is if some mother fucker raped your niece and killed her, then killed the rest of her family, you'd probably cut their dicks off and feed it to them too.

It's not a fucking "CRAZY RELIGIOUS MUSLIM INSURGENT" issue, it's plain and simple STREET JUSTICE.

The soldiers SHOULD be charged... as for the 2 Americans who died... well, they just should have kept their fucking dicks in their pants instead of raping a little girl in a foreign land now shouldn't have they ??

I have no sympathy, they got what they deserved.

They are investigating the connection. The problem is, the men who committed the crime were not the same men who were kidnapped. Yes, it probably was retaliation, but they chose the most vulnerable of the soldiers to retaliate against. These men did not ‘deserve what they got’, because they were not the ones who committed the crime. The ones who committed the crime are still being investigated. They did not care who they reacted against as long as they were American. That is the type of mentality we are dealing with.

For some strange reason, the American (CONSERVATIVE) media doesn't put the pieces together...

They are waiting for the results of the investigation. The media has an obligation to report the facts, not make assumptions. That seems to be a difficult concept for some news organizations to grasp.

Here's a letter that that "LIBERAL BASTARD" John Kerry wrote to John D. Negroponte.

How convenient. Where did you find that?

You'd be surprised. Most conservative news producers would do anything in their power to sway a bias over a story in their favour.

Take FOX News for example.

And who spun the story you just posted?

Ah, in YOUR eyes they might have gotten the wrong person, but you need to look at the bigger picture here snatchfood. The villagers hated the 502nd, the murder/rape was carried out by the 502nd stationed in that area, Not by just one man, but many... therefore, the enemy was not the guilty party, the enemy to the villagers, was the 502nd. .

I guess it is a good thing for them we don’t feel the same way. We actually discriminate between the enemy and the innocent.

Oh come on now, if NOBODY saw the fucking crime, why are people talking about it ?? Why did one guy confess to shit going down ?? .

Those that saw and participated are still alive. Where is the justice in that?

Conservative news not jumping to conclusion ?? More like Conservative news not wanting to give Bush another kick in the teeth.. .

I’m not sure how a few twisted soldiers would do anything to Bush’s reputation. Was he there at the time? Did he participate? There are sick rapists in the general population, why is it such a stretch to accept that they are in the military as well. It isn’t like they have some tell-tale sign that distinguishes them from everyone else.

These men have been over there for HOW fucking long snafu ?? It ain't like Vietnam where the average hormone hyped 18-24 year old guy can go get a "SUCKY SUCKY LONG TIME" from a Muslim hotty. They simply don't play that shit in that culture. .

I think you’ve seen to many movies. Rape is about control, not sex.

But anyways, the evidence shows, that not only was the girl raped and murdered, but it was premeditated and the girl had been stalked by the soldier... now.. tell me snafu..

WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANY PARTISANSHIP DISCUSSION ??

WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE TWO SOLDIERS THAT WERE KILLED??

[snafu]

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/jul2006/atro-j04.shtml

 

I don’t like the idea that our soldiers are committing atrocities like this. I don’t like the fact that it took three months for this to come to light. Like any crime you can have accomplices and cover ups. The cover up shouldn’t come from our military though. I would love to see these people that did this swing from a tree. But like Tori said we can differentiate between the innocent and the guilty. Should we retaliate again? Should we round up two Iraqi’s and cut their dicks off? The whole thing stinks!

 

As has become all the more clear of late, atrocities such as the one committed against Abeer Qasim Hamza and her family are not a rarity in Iraq. They are being repeated every day in villages across the ravaged nation by an occupation force that has been dehumanized by the brutality of the imperialist enterprise. The central responsibility for these unspeakable crimes rests with the highest levels of the US government and military, who conspired to launch this illegal war and continue to prosecute it.

 

 

Good artical but then they throw in a presumption along with a fallacy at the end. But I take the news at face value.

[ToriAllen]

Should we retaliate again? Should we round up two Iraqi

[Lethalfind]

If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander. War is hell.

 

 

 

 

Not just killing people, but threatening to kill your own to cover your tracks is blatantly over the top.

 

Sickening, really.

 

Would you feel that way if they were Austrailians??

I don't think. Period.

[Hamza123]

And who spun the story you just posted?

 

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=100

 

FAIR, the national media watch group, has been offering well-documented criticism of media bias and censorship since 1986. We work to invigorate the First Amendment by advocating for greater diversity in the press and by scrutinizing media practices that marginalize public interest, minority and dissenting viewpoints. As an anti-censorship organization, we expose neglected news stories and defend working journalists when they are muzzled. As a progressive group, FAIR believes that structural reform is ultimately needed to break up the dominant media conglomerates, establish independent public broadcasting and promote strong non-profit sources of information.

 

 

Raping a women for the motive of "control" is much more disgusting than simply wanting sexual pleasure.

[phreakwars]

I TOLD YOU SO, I TOLD YOU SO !!!

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060711/ts_nm/iraq_video_dc_1

 

And of course, you can see the video on Ogrish: http://www.ogrish.com/archives/us_soldiers_kidnapped_in_iraq_shown_dead_in_video_Jul_10_2006.html

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[hugo]

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=100

 

 

 

 

Raping a women for the motive of "control" is much more disgusting than simply wanting sexual pleasure.

 

FAIR is a far left organization. They have no credibility.

[Hamza123]

FAIR is a far left organization. They have no credibility.

 

Name any news organization thats "Fair and Balanced"... You can't. They're all brown noses.

 

The British Guardian reported that one female prisoner managed to smuggle a note out of Abu Ghraib. She claimed that American guards were raping the few female detainees held in the prison and that some of them were now pregnant. In desperation, she urged the Iraqi resistance to bomb the jail in order to spare the women further shame.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/women/story/0,3604,1220673,00.html

 

the women appear to have been arrested in violation of international law - not because of anything they have done, but merely because of who they are married to, and their potential intelligence value. US officials have previously acknowledged detaining Iraqi women in the hope of convincing male relatives to provide information; when US soldiers raid a house and fail to find a male suspect, they will frequently take away his wife or daughter instead.

 

Hey Hugo! I need some help here. Last time I checked, "War on TERROR", meant a war on evil, not a vast inner struggle to get some in Iraq.