Guest Roy Jose Lorr Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 Karl Johanson wrote: > "Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote > > >>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof >>enough. > > > Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof > enough. Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of batman. Quote
Guest Roy Jose Lorr Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 DanielSan wrote: > Roy Jose Lorr said the following on 1/20/2008 2:56 PM: > >> There are only two choices: belief and disbelief. Lack of belief is >> an impossibility. > > > What's the difference between "disbelief" and "lack of belief"? Tired of repeatedly answering your stupid question. Quote
Guest Starkiller Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:49:11 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote: >Karl Johanson wrote: > >> "Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote >> >> >>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof >>>enough. >> >> >> Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof >> enough. > >Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of batman. I believe they think that you were created by Batman. Y'know Robin did go around saying "holy" a lot. I dunno, I'm just sayin'.... ROFL Quote
Guest Karl Johanson Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 "Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote > Karl Johanson wrote: > >> "Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote >> >>>Karl Johanson wrote: >>> >>> >>>>"Starkiller" <NoSpam.SKS_SKanz@hotmail.com> wrote >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Show us where anything that Hitler did was referenced in the Bible >>>>>as >>>>>a teaching of Christ? >>>> >>>> >>>>The Bible says that every leader of every nation is there, because >>>>of god's will. It further says that people should follow them. If >>>>you believe the Christian Bible, you believe Hitler executed god's >>>>will. If you believe the Christian Bible, you believe that the >>>>Germans were under god's orders to do what their leader told them to >>>>do, as it was god's will. >>> >>>Free will for humans, not determinism, is God's will. >> >> >> I didn't say it was determinism. I said the Bible orders Christians >> to follow every national leader. Lots of Christians did that, when >> Hitler was in power. > > I'm not xian. I didn't say you were Christian. Karl Johanson Quote
Guest Karl Johanson Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 "Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote > Karl Johanson wrote: > >> "Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote >> >> >>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof >>>enough. >> >> >> Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof >> enough. > > Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of > batman. If you wish to believe a superstitious cause for the universe, you have an infinite number of choices. All are untestable and about equally likely. There might be one god, there might 23 gods, there might be 42 gods, etc. It's as likely that Batman created the universe as that Elohim did. Close to 1 in infinity. The Bible doesn't prove Elohim exists anymore than that comic books prove that Batman is the supreme being. I was showing the implications of your argument. Karl Johanson Quote
Guest bob young Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 Roy Jose Lorr wrote: > Mike wrote: > > > > > Roy Jose Lorr wrote: > > > >>>". I observe that a very large portion of the human race does not > >>>believe in God and suffers no visible punishment in consequence. And > >>>if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that he would have such > >>>an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt his existence." > >>>--- Bertrand Russell > >> > >>Russel the moron. WOW......... Invited in his day to lecture by just about every university in the USA How many lecture invitations have you managed this year Moron? > > > > > > > I take it then that you disagree with Russell and you believe that God > > DOES, in fact, have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those > > who doubt his existence? > > He's sympathetic to your low self esteem. Talks to you does 'He' ? !!!! > > > > > > > >>>Let us prey > > > > > > Preying is for xians, mantis' and other insects. > > Then you do prey. Quote
Guest Virgil Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 In article <nvudnR2q5qXAjAnanZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com>, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote: > Liz wrote: > > > On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:13:18 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> > > wrote: > > > > > >>Richard Anacker wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Roy Jose Lorr , 01.20.2008: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>There is no such thing as 'lack of belief'. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>In your indoctrinated mind. > >>>> > >>>>So you pray. > >>>> > >>>>There are only two choices: belief and disbelief. Lack of belief is an > >>>>impossibility. > >>> > >>> > >>>As I said > >>>In your indoctrinated mind. > >> > >>Describe something you 'lack' belief in. > > > > > > > > I don't believe in you. > > Answer the question. That his answer to the question does not please you does not mean it is not a legitimate answer. Quote
Guest Roy Jose Lorr Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 Starkiller wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:49:11 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> > wrote: > > >>Karl Johanson wrote: >> >> >>>"Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote >>> >>> >>> >>>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof >>>>enough. >>> >>> >>>Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof >>>enough. >> >>Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of batman. > > > I believe they think that you were created by Batman. > > Y'know Robin did go around saying "holy" a lot. > > I dunno, I'm just sayin'.... In other words you're just sayin nothin. Quote
Guest Roy Jose Lorr Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 Karl Johanson wrote: > "Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote > >>Karl Johanson wrote: >> >> >>>"Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote >>> >>> >>> >>>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof >>>>enough. >>> >>> >>>Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof >>>enough. >> >>Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of >>batman. > > > If you wish to believe a superstitious cause for the universe, you have > an infinite number of choices. All are untestable and about equally > likely. There might be one god, there might 23 gods, there might be 42 > gods, etc. It's as likely that Batman created the universe as that > Elohim did. Close to 1 in infinity. The Bible doesn't prove Elohim > exists anymore than that comic books prove that Batman is the supreme > being. > > I was showing the implications of your argument. All you've shown is an abundance of atheist idiocy. Quote
Guest Roy Jose Lorr Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 bob young wrote: > > Roy Jose Lorr wrote: > > >>Mike wrote: >> >> >>>Roy Jose Lorr wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>". I observe that a very large portion of the human race does not >>>>>believe in God and suffers no visible punishment in consequence. And >>>>>if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that he would have such >>>>>an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt his existence." >>>>>--- Bertrand Russell >>>> >>>>Russel the moron. > > > WOW......... Invited in his day to lecture by just about every university > in the USA Universities invite every moron that makes himself available. > > How many lecture invitations have you managed this year Moron? Irrelevant, idiot. > > >>> >>>I take it then that you disagree with Russell and you believe that God >>>DOES, in fact, have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those >>>who doubt his existence? >> >>He's sympathetic to your low self esteem. > > > Talks to you does 'He' ? !!!! No. > > >> >>> >>>>>Let us prey >>> >>> >>>Preying is for xians, mantis' and other insects. >> >>Then you do prey. > > Quote
Guest Richard Anacker Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 Roy Jose Lorr , 01.21.2008: >> >> >>>Describe something you 'lack' belief in. >> >> >> gods. > > You can believe or disbelieve in gods but you can't claim "lack" of > belief in them after acknowledging the concept. > >> >> That was easy. > > Sorry... try again > >> >> And before you try it - no, I have no immage of something like that, I >> am even not interested in it. > > You have an image of gods, if not you would be unaware of the concept > and would have nothing whatsoever to say about them. You bloody fuckin moron, don't tell me what I have and what not. Just because you threw a word in a conversation it doesn't mean that this word brings an image in someones head. What image do you have when I tell you there is a glibguthroda waiting for you after your dead? But to make it as cheap as your pseudoargumentation - just to shout out "pink elephant" doesn't bring one to existence, neither does it need any faith not to belive in one. Stop smoking crack, it damages your brain-cell and then you have nothing that tells you, that you have to shit. Oh, this lousy religous bastards. greets richie X'Posted to: alt.atheism,alt.politics,alt.philosophy -- Lieblingsvideos auf youtube: Pink Floyd Reunion-Wish You Were Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvH127PFmcY&feature=related Quote
Guest Virgil Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 In article <B9idnezG1-SLjgnanZ2dnUVZ_tOtnZ2d@comcast.com>, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote: > Richard Anacker wrote: > > > Roy Jose Lorr , 01.21.2008: > > > > > >>Describe something you 'lack' belief in. > > > > > > gods. > > You can believe or disbelieve in gods but you can't claim "lack" of > belief in them after acknowledging the concept. > > > > > That was easy. > > Sorry... try again > > > > > And before you try it - no, I have no immage of something like that, I > > am even not interested in it. > > You have an image of gods, if not you would be unaware of the concept > and would have nothing whatsoever to say about them. Most atheists/agnostics have many mutually exclusive images of gods, from which mental pantheon no one stands out. Quote
Guest Virgil Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 In article <B9idne_G1-QFjgnanZ2dnUVZ_tPinZ2d@comcast.com>, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote: > Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Roy Jose Lorr wrote: > > > >>Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote: > >> > >> > >>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>>Hash: SHA1 > >>> > >>>Roy Jose Lorr wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Michael Gray wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:21:45 -0800 (PST), Limbaugh unhinges his jaw to > >>>>>eat his own waste <goofindoo@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>On Jan 19, 4:26 pm, "Mr4701" <NoExi...@Earth.net> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>A Godless person is just as bad as an overzealous person. Atheist > >>>>>>>Stalin had > >>>>>>>no more of a beef killing people than Islamofascist Osama Bin Laden. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>I'm sorry but you're going to either have to prove this statement > >>>>>>logically or present evidence, statistical evidence. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>By the way, I have tons of evidences that christians are bad. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>But because of their belief. > >>>>>No one is bad because of a lack of a belief, which is exactly what > >>>>>atheism is. > >>>> > >>>>There is no such thing as 'lack of belief'. > >>>> > >>> > >>>Care to try and prove that one? > >>> > >>>Probably not. You never do. > >> > >>My mistake, I thought this was a philosophy group. > >> > >>Dufuss, there are only two choices: belief and disbelief... there is no > >>such thing as 'lack' of belief after the fact. > >> > > > > You want it to be in the philosophy group, fine. > > > > But I don't read philosophy groups. My news server does not carry > > philosophy groups. And I don't answer to you for your failures to > > understand how the Internet works. > > > > You don't want my response, okay. Don't post to alt.atheism. > > > > Is that simple enough for ya, or do you need someone to hold your hand > > while you trim group names? > > Keep whining and puling, it suits you. Not as well as it suits Royjoselorr Quote
Guest Virgil Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 In article <T_edndehifToiQnanZ2dnUVZ_q2hnZ2d@comcast.com>, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote: > Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Roy Jose Lorr wrote: > > > >>Richard Anacker wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Roy Jose Lorr , 01.20.2008: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>There is no such thing as 'lack of belief'. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>In your indoctrinated mind. > >>>> > >>>>So you pray. > >>>> > >>>>There are only two choices: belief and disbelief. Lack of belief is > >>>>an impossibility. > >>> > >>> > >>>As I said > >>>In your indoctrinated mind. > >> > >>Describe something you 'lack' belief in. > >> > > > > Your intelligence. > > Dufuss, you just admitted knowledge of something you disbelieve. That > means you do not have a "lack" of knowledge of my intelligence. It does mean a lack of knowledge that any such thing exists. Quote
Guest Virgil Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 In article <mu-dnTOSi9GtiwnanZ2dnUVZ_vrinZ2d@comcast.com>, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote: > Karl Johanson wrote: > > > "Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote > > > > > >>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof > >>enough. > > > > > > Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof > > enough. > > Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of batman. In exactly the same way that anyone's existence proves the existence of your god. At best it might indicate the possible existence of some gods, number and name unknown. Quote
Guest Virgil Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 In article <mu-dnTKSi9EhiwnanZ2dnUVZ_vrinZ2d@comcast.com>, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote: > DanielSan wrote: > > > Roy Jose Lorr said the following on 1/20/2008 2:56 PM: > > > >> There are only two choices: belief and disbelief. Lack of belief is > >> an impossibility. > > > > > > What's the difference between "disbelief" and "lack of belief"? > > Tired of repeatedly answering your stupid question. That's not what it is usually taken to mean. Quote
Guest Virgil Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 In article <d8Wdne3SCb-l3AnanZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@comcast.com>, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote: > Karl Johanson wrote: > > > "Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote > > > >>Karl Johanson wrote: > >> > >> > >>>"Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof > >>>>enough. > >>> > >>> > >>>Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof > >>>enough. > >> > >>Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of > >>batman. > > > > > > If you wish to believe a superstitious cause for the universe, you have > > an infinite number of choices. All are untestable and about equally > > likely. There might be one god, there might 23 gods, there might be 42 > > gods, etc. It's as likely that Batman created the universe as that > > Elohim did. Close to 1 in infinity. The Bible doesn't prove Elohim > > exists anymore than that comic books prove that Batman is the supreme > > being. > > > > I was showing the implications of your argument. > > All you've shown is an abundance of atheist idiocy. Which alleged idiocy is much more logically and theologically sound than Lorr's theist idiocies. Which is why all Lorr can do is repeat his argumenta ad hominem. Quote
Guest Virgil Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 In article <U9SdnSH0_dbT3wnanZ2dnUVZ_qSonZ2d@comcast.com>, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote: > bob young wrote: > > > > > Roy Jose Lorr wrote: > > > > > >>Mike wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Roy Jose Lorr wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>>". I observe that a very large portion of the human race does not > >>>>>believe in God and suffers no visible punishment in consequence. And > >>>>>if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that he would have such > >>>>>an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt his existence." > >>>>>--- Bertrand Russell > >>>> > >>>>Russel the moron. > > > > > > WOW......... Invited in his day to lecture by just about every university > > in the USA > > Universities invite every moron that makes himself available. > > > > > How many lecture invitations have you managed this year Moron? > > Irrelevant, idiot. It is relevant to your credibility versus Russell's. And proves Russell far more credible, as well as more logical. Quote
Guest Richard Anacker Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 Virgil , 01.21.2008: >> Irrelevant, idiot. > > It is relevant to your credibility Which credibility? This fool has none at all. greets richie X'Posted to: alt.atheism,alt.politics,alt.philosophy,alt.religion,alt.politics.republicans -- "Sure, Moses was a great leader, an emancipator of his people and a prophet. Most people don't know that he also was the Biblical equivalent of Splinter Cell's Sam Fisher--a well-honed killing machine, able to slay from the shadows without pity or remorse. Martin Luther King may have had a dream, but Moses had a body count." -David Wong Quote
Guest SteveL Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:56:36 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote: >Richard Anacker wrote: > >> Roy Jose Lorr , 01.20.2008: >> >> >>>There is no such thing as 'lack of belief'. >> >> >> In your indoctrinated mind. > >So you pray. > >There are only two choices: belief and disbelief. Lack of belief is an >impossibility. Fallacy of the Excluded Middle. Quote
Guest Rev. Karl E. Taylor Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Roy Jose Lorr wrote: > Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Roy Jose Lorr wrote: >> >>> Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> Roy Jose Lorr wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Michael Gray wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:21:45 -0800 (PST), Limbaugh unhinges his >>>>>> jaw to >>>>>> eat his own waste <goofindoo@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 19, 4:26 pm, "Mr4701" <NoExi...@Earth.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A Godless person is just as bad as an overzealous person. Atheist >>>>>>>> Stalin had >>>>>>>> no more of a beef killing people than Islamofascist Osama Bin >>>>>>>> Laden. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm sorry but you're going to either have to prove this statement >>>>>>> logically or present evidence, statistical evidence. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By the way, I have tons of evidences that christians are bad. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But because of their belief. >>>>>> No one is bad because of a lack of a belief, which is exactly what >>>>>> atheism is. >>>>> >>>>> There is no such thing as 'lack of belief'. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Care to try and prove that one? >>>> >>>> Probably not. You never do. >>> >>> My mistake, I thought this was a philosophy group. >>> >>> Dufuss, there are only two choices: belief and disbelief... there is no >>> such thing as 'lack' of belief after the fact. >>> >> >> You want it to be in the philosophy group, fine. >> >> But I don't read philosophy groups. My news server does not carry >> philosophy groups. And I don't answer to you for your failures to >> understand how the Internet works. >> >> You don't want my response, okay. Don't post to alt.atheism. >> >> Is that simple enough for ya, or do you need someone to hold your hand >> while you trim group names? > > Keep whining and puling, it suits you. > More of the trademarked RoyBoy projection. I see you still can't actually deal with the issues posted. Typical. BTW junior, I lack belief that you have any intelligence at all. See, you can lack belief in something. Take your stupid argument and stuff it up your ass. - -- There are none more ignorant and useless, than they that seek answers on their knees, with their eyes closed. ____________________________________________________________________ Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ A.A #1143 http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology/ Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director ____________________________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHlI2Cf+wl0F6+jvgRAtZxAJwOjcpmuiEGamjmjreWj7Z9nPYPFQCcD/iV Co94U5XTvxuCFdoB9g0hjUo= =oTHi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Quote
Guest Rev. Karl E. Taylor Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Roy Jose Lorr wrote: > Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Roy Jose Lorr wrote: >> >>> Richard Anacker wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Roy Jose Lorr , 01.20.2008: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> There is no such thing as 'lack of belief'. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In your indoctrinated mind. >>>>> >>>>> So you pray. >>>>> >>>>> There are only two choices: belief and disbelief. Lack of belief is >>>>> an impossibility. >>>> >>>> >>>> As I said >>>> In your indoctrinated mind. >>> >>> Describe something you 'lack' belief in. >>> >> >> Your intelligence. > > Dufuss, you just admitted knowledge of something you disbelieve. That > means you do not have a "lack" of knowledge of my intelligence. Of > course your disbelief in the matter is a crock but for the sake of this > argument that's neither here nor there. > Dingbat, I KNOW there is intelligence, I lack the belief in yours. Man, stupidity is your forte ain't it RoyBoy? - -- There are none more ignorant and useless, than they that seek answers on their knees, with their eyes closed. ____________________________________________________________________ Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ A.A #1143 http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology/ Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director ____________________________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHlI22f+wl0F6+jvgRAiXwAKCb7GaZAmUW6Ujnxakt48TabbzfjgCfYBIv KMw/3p0kfyNnNXaGm/MaZnc= =EqIM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Quote
Guest Limbaugh unhinges his jaw to eat h Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 The point of this post was about the validity of fearing and detesting atheists. The only evidence offered by a few that atheists are the scourge of humanity using fallacious reasoning. god created laws. Atheists don't believe in god. Therefore atheists don't believe in laws. What an absurd argument. There are a number of fallacies with this argument. God created laws: No proof is offered for this. Laws could have evolved as civilizations evolved. Atheists don't believe in god: True enough. But the following conclusion does not follow from the these two statements. Atheists don't believe in laws: does one have to believe in a god to believe in a law? Why? Atheists believe in scientific laws so why not other laws? Also, if someone believes in a god does that person also believe in laws? And if that is true, then why do so many believers in a god disobey laws? I guess a belief in laws doesn't prevent someone from breaking laws? What's the point of bringing up a belief in god leading to a belief in laws if those who believe in god, believe in laws but don't obey those laws? Quote
Guest Starkiller Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:50:27 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote: >Starkiller wrote: > >> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:49:11 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >> >>>Karl Johanson wrote: >>> >>> >>>>"Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof >>>>>enough. >>>> >>>> >>>>Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof >>>>enough. >>> >>>Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of batman. >> >> >> I believe they think that you were created by Batman. >> >> Y'know Robin did go around saying "holy" a lot. >> >> I dunno, I'm just sayin'.... > >In other words you're just sayin nothin. As the old saying goes. Fuck you if you can't take a joke. Quote
Guest Rev. Karl E. Taylor Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 Limbaugh unhinges his jaw to eat his own waste wrote: > The point of this post was about the validity of fearing and detesting > atheists. > > The only evidence offered by a few that atheists are the scourge of > humanity using fallacious reasoning. god created laws. Atheists > don't believe in god. Therefore atheists don't believe in laws. What > an absurd argument. There are a number of fallacies with this > argument. > There is another that they like to use a great deal of the time: "How can you have morals if you have no higher authority?" Silly I know, but, it's out there. > > God created laws: No proof is offered for this. Laws could have > evolved as civilizations evolved. > > Atheists don't believe in god: True enough. But the following > conclusion does not follow from the these two statements. > Actually, a small point of contention, that should read "gods". And atheist rejects the existence of all gods, not specific ones. Rejection specific gods is the realm of the theists. > > Atheists don't believe in laws: does one have to believe in a god to > believe in a law? Why? Atheists believe in scientific laws so why > not other laws? > Yeah, I don't believe in the law. Which is why i spent a number of years enforcing the law. Hmmm, go figure. > > Also, if someone believes in a god does that person also believe in > laws? And if that is true, then why do so many believers in a god > disobey laws? I guess a belief in laws doesn't prevent someone from > breaking laws? What's the point of bringing up a belief in god > leading to a belief in laws if those who believe in god, believe in > laws but don't obey those laws? > Problem is, the laws they believe in, that came from those gods, are some pretty sick laws. -- There are none more ignorant and useless, than they that seek answers on their knees, with their eyes closed. ____________________________________________________________________ Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ A.A #1143 http://scienceblogs.com/aardvarchaeology/ Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director ____________________________________________________________________ Quote
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