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Guest Karl Johanson
Posted

"Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote

> Karl Johanson wrote:

>

>> "Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote

>>

>>

>>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

>>>enough.

>>

>>

>> Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

>> enough.

>

> Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of

> batman.

 

If you wish to believe a superstitious cause for the universe, you have

an infinite number of choices. All are untestable and about equally

likely. There might be one god, there might 23 gods, there might be 42

gods, etc. It's as likely that Batman created the universe as that

Elohim did. Close to 1 in infinity. The Bible doesn't prove Elohim

exists anymore than that comic books prove that Batman is the supreme

being.

 

I was showing the implications of your argument.

 

Karl Johanson

Guest bob young
Posted

Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

> Mike wrote:

>

> >

> > Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

> >

> >>>". I observe that a very large portion of the human race does not

> >>>believe in God and suffers no visible punishment in consequence. And

> >>>if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that he would have such

> >>>an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt his existence."

> >>>--- Bertrand Russell

> >>

> >>Russel the moron.

 

WOW......... Invited in his day to lecture by just about every university

in the USA

 

How many lecture invitations have you managed this year Moron?

>

> >

> >

> > I take it then that you disagree with Russell and you believe that God

> > DOES, in fact, have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those

> > who doubt his existence?

>

> He's sympathetic to your low self esteem.

 

Talks to you does 'He' ? !!!!

>

>

> >

> >

> >>>Let us prey

> >

> >

> > Preying is for xians, mantis' and other insects.

>

> Then you do prey.

Guest Roy Jose Lorr
Posted

Starkiller wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:49:11 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net>

> wrote:

>

>

>>Karl Johanson wrote:

>>

>>

>>>"Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

>>>>enough.

>>>

>>>

>>>Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

>>>enough.

>>

>>Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of batman.

>

>

> I believe they think that you were created by Batman.

>

> Y'know Robin did go around saying "holy" a lot.

>

> I dunno, I'm just sayin'....

 

In other words you're just sayin nothin.

Guest Roy Jose Lorr
Posted

Karl Johanson wrote:

> "Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote

>

>>Karl Johanson wrote:

>>

>>

>>>"Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

>>>>enough.

>>>

>>>

>>>Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

>>>enough.

>>

>>Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of

>>batman.

>

>

> If you wish to believe a superstitious cause for the universe, you have

> an infinite number of choices. All are untestable and about equally

> likely. There might be one god, there might 23 gods, there might be 42

> gods, etc. It's as likely that Batman created the universe as that

> Elohim did. Close to 1 in infinity. The Bible doesn't prove Elohim

> exists anymore than that comic books prove that Batman is the supreme

> being.

>

> I was showing the implications of your argument.

 

All you've shown is an abundance of atheist idiocy.

Guest Roy Jose Lorr
Posted

bob young wrote:

>

> Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

>

>

>>Mike wrote:

>>

>>

>>>Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>>". I observe that a very large portion of the human race does not

>>>>>believe in God and suffers no visible punishment in consequence. And

>>>>>if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that he would have such

>>>>>an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt his existence."

>>>>>--- Bertrand Russell

>>>>

>>>>Russel the moron.

>

>

> WOW......... Invited in his day to lecture by just about every university

> in the USA

 

Universities invite every moron that makes himself available.

>

> How many lecture invitations have you managed this year Moron?

 

Irrelevant, idiot.

>

>

>>>

>>>I take it then that you disagree with Russell and you believe that God

>>>DOES, in fact, have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those

>>>who doubt his existence?

>>

>>He's sympathetic to your low self esteem.

>

>

> Talks to you does 'He' ? !!!!

 

No.

>

>

>>

>>>

>>>>>Let us prey

>>>

>>>

>>>Preying is for xians, mantis' and other insects.

>>

>>Then you do prey.

>

>

Posted

In article <mu-dnTOSi9GtiwnanZ2dnUVZ_vrinZ2d@comcast.com>,

Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote:

> Karl Johanson wrote:

>

> > "Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote

> >

> >

> >>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

> >>enough.

> >

> >

> > Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

> > enough.

>

> Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of batman.

 

In exactly the same way that anyone's existence proves the existence of

your god. At best it might indicate the possible existence of some gods,

number and name unknown.

Posted

In article <d8Wdne3SCb-l3AnanZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@comcast.com>,

Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote:

> Karl Johanson wrote:

>

> > "Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote

> >

> >>Karl Johanson wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >>>"Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

> >>>>enough.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

> >>>enough.

> >>

> >>Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of

> >>batman.

> >

> >

> > If you wish to believe a superstitious cause for the universe, you have

> > an infinite number of choices. All are untestable and about equally

> > likely. There might be one god, there might 23 gods, there might be 42

> > gods, etc. It's as likely that Batman created the universe as that

> > Elohim did. Close to 1 in infinity. The Bible doesn't prove Elohim

> > exists anymore than that comic books prove that Batman is the supreme

> > being.

> >

> > I was showing the implications of your argument.

>

> All you've shown is an abundance of atheist idiocy.

 

Which alleged idiocy is much more logically and theologically sound than

Lorr's theist idiocies.

 

Which is why all Lorr can do is repeat his argumenta ad hominem.

Posted

In article <U9SdnSH0_dbT3wnanZ2dnUVZ_qSonZ2d@comcast.com>,

Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote:

> bob young wrote:

>

> >

> > Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

> >

> >

> >>Mike wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >>>Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>>>". I observe that a very large portion of the human race does not

> >>>>>believe in God and suffers no visible punishment in consequence. And

> >>>>>if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that he would have such

> >>>>>an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt his existence."

> >>>>>--- Bertrand Russell

> >>>>

> >>>>Russel the moron.

> >

> >

> > WOW......... Invited in his day to lecture by just about every university

> > in the USA

>

> Universities invite every moron that makes himself available.

>

> >

> > How many lecture invitations have you managed this year Moron?

>

> Irrelevant, idiot.

 

It is relevant to your credibility versus Russell's.

 

And proves Russell far more credible, as well as more logical.

Guest Richard Anacker
Posted

Virgil , 01.21.2008:

>> Irrelevant, idiot.

>

> It is relevant to your credibility

 

Which credibility? This fool has none at all.

 

greets

richie

 

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prophet. Most people don't know that he also was the Biblical

equivalent of Splinter Cell's Sam Fisher--a well-honed killing

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Martin Luther King may have had a dream, but Moses had a body count."

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Guest Starkiller
Posted

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:50:27 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net>

wrote:

>Starkiller wrote:

>

>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:49:11 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net>

>> wrote:

>>

>>

>>>Karl Johanson wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>"Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

>>>>>enough.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

>>>>enough.

>>>

>>>Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of batman.

>>

>>

>> I believe they think that you were created by Batman.

>>

>> Y'know Robin did go around saying "holy" a lot.

>>

>> I dunno, I'm just sayin'....

>

>In other words you're just sayin nothin.

 

As the old saying goes. Fuck you if you can't take a joke.

Guest Roy Jose Lorr
Posted

Starkiller wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:50:27 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net>

> wrote:

>

>

>>Starkiller wrote:

>>

>>

>>>On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:49:11 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net>

>>>wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>Karl Johanson wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>"Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

>>>>>>enough.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

>>>>>enough.

>>>>

>>>>Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of batman.

>>>

>>>

>>>I believe they think that you were created by Batman.

>>>

>>>Y'know Robin did go around saying "holy" a lot.

>>>

>>>I dunno, I'm just sayin'....

>>

>>In other words you're just sayin nothin.

>

>

> As the old saying goes. Fuck you if you can't take a joke.

 

Ditto.

Guest Roy Jose Lorr
Posted

Richard Anacker wrote:

> Virgil , 01.21.2008:

>

>

>>>Irrelevant, idiot.

>>

>>It is relevant to your credibility

>

>

> Which credibility? This fool has none at all.

 

Good to see atheist morons stroking each other in public.

Guest wbyeats@ireland.com
Posted

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:36:53 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net>

wrote:

>wbyeats@ireland.com wrote:

>

>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 06:53:51 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net>

>> wrote:

>>

>>

>>>Raymond wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>On Jan 19, 7:26?pm, "Mr4701" <NoExi...@Earth.net> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>A Godless person is just as bad as an overzealous person. Atheist Stalin had

>>>>>no more of a beef killing people than Islamofascist Osama Bin Laden.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>And Catholic Hitler had no more of a beef killing people than Atheist

>>>>Stalin or Christian Episcopalean.....George Bush

>>>

>>>Hitler and stalin were and Bush is an atheist, self worshipers. How

>>>people define themselves to the world is hardly ever the reality.

>>

>>

>> "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of

>> the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am

>> fighting for the work of the Lord."

>>

>> "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a

>> fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by

>> a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned

>> men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a

>> sufferer but as a fighter."

>>

>> Guess who said the above? There is as much evidence Hitler was a

>> Christian as that he was not. He does seem to believe in some type of

>> God so to profess that Hitler was an atheist is very dubious at best.

>

>You make my point. Politics has people saying all sorts of untruths. As

>I said.

 

.....and all the good little Christians just went along. Says much more

about religion than politics. And there are a great many including

yourself who's love to see the two go hand in hand in the US.

>>>>Most political and religious leaders throughout history have had no

>>>>troulble killing millions of people----especially religious leaders.

>>>>Religion has everything to do with terrorism Anyone who doesn't

>>>>understand that has never been exposed to a decent history course or

>>>>history book.

>>>

>>>Anyone who takes history courses and books at face value needs a

>>>tutorial in reality.

>>

>>

>> So you're going to rewrite history to rationalize your ignorance?

>> Figures!

>

>Ignorance is taking necessarily biased accounts of history at face value.

 

Biased acount of what? But I do understand your mindset - it's made up

and gets confused when faced with historical fact(s).

>>>>And we must not exclude the Jewish leaders---including the main Man

>>>>himself . G-d that is.

>>>

>>>Hmm... the obligatory anti God hysteria.

>>

>>

>> Anti-God hysteria. The burden of proof is on the believers - not on

>> the non-believers. Now prove to us all that there is a God. Hint -

>> Kant couldn't and you can't.

>

>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof enough.

 

God is a belief made up by humans to try and explain what they don't

understand and to use as a crutch in time of need. Don't confuse your

faith with the physical world. It's inane, ignorant, and far from any

truth.

>>>>SEE Atrocities in the Bible. Shalom aleichem

>>>>http://thetruth.hypermart.net/bible/atrocities.htm

>>>

>>>Absolute exploitative insanity.

>>

>>

>> Excuse me - it's in the Bible and isn't everything in the Bible God's

>> honest truth?

>

>To what in the Bible do you refer? If all you're going to do is

>regurgitate garbage from that Jew hating web site you'll be engaging in

>a conceptually irrelevant act.

 

Just who are you talking to? Apparently not me as I've said nothing

nor referenced anything which has to do with Judaism or its adherents.

Try and stay on point. BTW - Judaism is much more on point than

Xtianity. At least there's some real history attached to it.

>>

>>>>Also see:

>>>>http://www.geocities.com/shatila1982/masspictures.html

>>>

>>>Arab propaganda.

>>

>>

>> Yeah, right. And the Holocaust was Jewish propaganda foisted off by

>> the Rothschilds as truth. And the Inquisition was just a pop quiz. And

>> the Crusades a cruise on Holland-America. And pogroms were cheerleader

>> props.

>

>Denial suits you.

 

Excuse me - denial of what? Or don't you understand sarcasm. Try

hitting yourself upside the head and jumpstarting your brain.

>>PS - you and the Muslims have the exact same God.

>

>Bull.

 

There's more than one? Oh, I know what you're saying. Your God's

better than their God.

>>>>Catholics today all try to repudiate Adolf Hitler and deny that he was

>>>>a fellow Roman Catholic. But this was definitely not the case so long

>>>>as he was in power, In fact, Hitler could not have come to power

>>>>without the assistance of the Vatican and the German Catholic Church>

>>>>So long as Adolf Hitler was in power, his Roman Catholic Church never

>>>>questioned his Catholicism - at least not in public - which is where

>>>>it mattered politically.--- just as no one questions GW Bush's

>>>>Christianity

>>>>--- at least not in public - which is where it matters politically.

>>>

>>>Hitler could not have come to power without the support of the people,

>>>no matter their religious or anti religious affiliations.

>>

>>

>> Of course - your point is?

>

>Read what you wrote above.

 

I didn't write it, God boy.

>>>>A man who is convinced of the truth of his religion is indeed never

>>>>tolerant. At the least, he is to feel pity for the adherent of another

>>>>religion but usually it does not stop there. The faithful adherent of

>>>>a religion will try first of all to convince those that believe in

>>>>another religion and usually he goes on to hatred if he is not

>>>>successful. However, hatred then leads to persecution when the might

>>>>of the majority is behind it. In the case of a Christian clergyman,

>>>>the tragic-comical is found in this: that the Christian religion

>>>>demands love from the faithful, even love for the enemy. This demand,

>>>>because it is indeed superhuman, he is unable to fulfill. Thus

>>>>intolerance and hatred ring through the oily words of the clergyman.

>>>>The love, which on the Christian side is the basis for the

>>>>conciliatory attempt towards Judaism is the same as the love of a

>>>>child for a cake. That means that it contains the hope that the object

>>>>of the love will be eaten up...

>>>

>>>You have just described the mental and physical behaviors of believers

>>>in the atheist religion.

>>

>>

>> Atheism is a religion? Beep - wrong. Nobody's out there signing up

>> converts.

>

>Bull. Atheism evangelizes. Or have you no idea of your fundamentalist,

>evangelical devotion to your own religion.

 

Religion explicitly entails a belief in some higher being. The belief

that this fairy tale is not real does not constitute any type of

religious belief. Personally if I were to adhere to any religion, it

would be centered around Astarte and natural phenomena.

>>>> Letter to Rabbi Solomon Goldman of Chicago's Anshe Emet Congregation.

>>>>

>>>>"If I would follow your advice and Jesus could perceive it, he, as a

>>>>Jewish teacher, surely would not approve of such behavior."

>>>>

>>>>Reply to a Roman Catholic student urging him to pray to Jesus Christ,

>>>>the Virgin Mary, and convert to Christianity.

>>>>--- Albert Einstein

>>>>

>>>>". I observe that a very large portion of the human race does not

>>>>believe in God and suffers no visible punishment in consequence. And

>>>>if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that he would have such

>>>>an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt his existence."

>>>>--- Bertrand Russell

>>>

>>>Russel the moron.

>>

>>

>> Yup - Roy's the perfect ignorant Xtian - his mind's made up. Everyone

>> who doesn't believe in his brand of Xtianity is a moron. This includes

>> Russell, Kant, Einstein, Darwin, Galileo, and a cast of thousands.

>> Pretty good company. If there ever was a Jesus, (there's no proof of

>> his existence except for a footnote in an archaic text that refers to

>> a Christos) he'd be much more at home with those folks than with a

>> bunch of narrow-minded bigots.

>

>Typical atheist zealot's rant.

 

You really feel that Jesus existed? I can understand many believing in

God - please note belief and not fact. What I can't understand is

belief in an nonexistent individual born of a virgin (made up 300

years after the fact), deemed divine (made up 300 years after the

fact), and later used as an excuse to torture and kill those who

didn't wish to follow. Yup - makes perfect sense.

 

WB Yeats

Guest Roy Jose Lorr
Posted

wbyeats@ireland.com wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:36:53 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net>

> wrote:

>

>

>>wbyeats@ireland.com wrote:

>>

>>

>>>On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 06:53:51 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net>

>>>wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>Raymond wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>On Jan 19, 7:26?pm, "Mr4701" <NoExi...@Earth.net> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>A Godless person is just as bad as an overzealous person. Atheist Stalin had

>>>>>>no more of a beef killing people than Islamofascist Osama Bin Laden.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>And Catholic Hitler had no more of a beef killing people than Atheist

>>>>>Stalin or Christian Episcopalean.....George Bush

>>>>

>>>>Hitler and stalin were and Bush is an atheist, self worshipers. How

>>>>people define themselves to the world is hardly ever the reality.

>>>

>>>

>>>"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of

>>>the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am

>>>fighting for the work of the Lord."

>>>

>>>"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a

>>>fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by

>>>a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned

>>>men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a

>>>sufferer but as a fighter."

>>>

>>>Guess who said the above? There is as much evidence Hitler was a

>>>Christian as that he was not. He does seem to believe in some type of

>>>God so to profess that Hitler was an atheist is very dubious at best.

>>

>>You make my point. Politics has people saying all sorts of untruths. As

>>I said.

>

>

> ....and all the good little Christians just went along. Says much more

> about religion than politics. And there are a great many including

> yourself who's love to see the two go hand in hand in the US.

 

Sheephood is not restricted to a specific class.

>

>

>>>>>Most political and religious leaders throughout history have had no

>>>>>troulble killing millions of people----especially religious leaders.

>>>>>Religion has everything to do with terrorism Anyone who doesn't

>>>>>understand that has never been exposed to a decent history course or

>>>>>history book.

>>>>

>>>>Anyone who takes history courses and books at face value needs a

>>>>tutorial in reality.

>>>

>>>

>>>So you're going to rewrite history to rationalize your ignorance?

>>>Figures!

>>

>>Ignorance is taking necessarily biased accounts of history at face value.

>

>

> Biased acount of what?

 

History. Learn to read.

 

But I do understand your mindset - it's made up

> and gets confused when faced with historical fact(s).

 

What is an "historical fact"?

>

>

>>>>>And we must not exclude the Jewish leaders---including the main Man

>>>>>himself . G-d that is.

>>>>

>>>>Hmm... the obligatory anti God hysteria.

>>>

>>>

>>>Anti-God hysteria. The burden of proof is on the believers - not on

>>>the non-believers. Now prove to us all that there is a God. Hint -

>>>Kant couldn't and you can't.

>>

>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof enough.

>

>

> God is a belief made up by humans to try and explain what they don't

> understand and to use as a crutch in time of need. Don't confuse your

> faith with the physical world. It's inane, ignorant, and far from any

> truth.

 

Nice rant. You should give it from your pulpit.

>

>

>>>>>SEE Atrocities in the Bible. Shalom aleichem

>>>>>http://thetruth.hypermart.net/bible/atrocities.htm

>>>>

>>>>Absolute exploitative insanity.

>>>

>>>

>>>Excuse me - it's in the Bible and isn't everything in the Bible God's

>>>honest truth?

>>

>>To what in the Bible do you refer? If all you're going to do is

>>regurgitate garbage from that Jew hating web site you'll be engaging in

>>a conceptually irrelevant act.

>

>

> Just who are you talking to? Apparently not me as I've said nothing

> nor referenced anything which has to do with Judaism or its adherents.

> Try and stay on point. BTW - Judaism is much more on point than

> Xtianity. At least there's some real history attached to it.

 

Yes, I'm talking to you, that should be obvious. Your use of a Jew

hating website to promote your own religious ideology makes clear your

agenda. I suggest you pay attention to what you write.

>

>

>>>>>Also see:

>>>>>http://www.geocities.com/shatila1982/masspictures.html

>>>>

>>>>Arab propaganda.

>>>

>>>

>>>Yeah, right. And the Holocaust was Jewish propaganda foisted off by

>>>the Rothschilds as truth. And the Inquisition was just a pop quiz. And

>>>the Crusades a cruise on Holland-America. And pogroms were cheerleader

>>>props.

>>

>>Denial suits you.

>

>

> Excuse me - denial of what? Or don't you understand sarcasm. Try

> hitting yourself upside the head and jumpstarting your brain.

 

Denial comes in the form of you thinking sarcasm hides the fact that you

use arab propaganda to further your agenda?

>

>

>>>PS - you and the Muslims have the exact same God.

>>

>>Bull.

>

>

> There's more than one? Oh, I know what you're saying. Your God's

> better than their God.

 

No. I said they are not the same God.

>

>

>>>>>Catholics today all try to repudiate Adolf Hitler and deny that he was

>>>>>a fellow Roman Catholic. But this was definitely not the case so long

>>>>>as he was in power, In fact, Hitler could not have come to power

>>>>>without the assistance of the Vatican and the German Catholic Church>

>>>>>So long as Adolf Hitler was in power, his Roman Catholic Church never

>>>>>questioned his Catholicism - at least not in public - which is where

>>>>>it mattered politically.--- just as no one questions GW Bush's

>>>>>Christianity

>>>>>--- at least not in public - which is where it matters politically.

>>>>

>>>>Hitler could not have come to power without the support of the people,

>>>>no matter their religious or anti religious affiliations.

>>>

>>>

>>>Of course - your point is?

>>

>>Read what you wrote above.

>

>

> I didn't write it, God boy.

 

Ooh, ouch - 'God boy'. Antagonism suits you.

>

>

>>>>>A man who is convinced of the truth of his religion is indeed never

>>>>>tolerant. At the least, he is to feel pity for the adherent of another

>>>>>religion but usually it does not stop there. The faithful adherent of

>>>>>a religion will try first of all to convince those that believe in

>>>>>another religion and usually he goes on to hatred if he is not

>>>>>successful. However, hatred then leads to persecution when the might

>>>>>of the majority is behind it. In the case of a Christian clergyman,

>>>>>the tragic-comical is found in this: that the Christian religion

>>>>>demands love from the faithful, even love for the enemy. This demand,

>>>>>because it is indeed superhuman, he is unable to fulfill. Thus

>>>>>intolerance and hatred ring through the oily words of the clergyman.

>>>>>The love, which on the Christian side is the basis for the

>>>>>conciliatory attempt towards Judaism is the same as the love of a

>>>>>child for a cake. That means that it contains the hope that the object

>>>>>of the love will be eaten up...

>>>>

>>>>You have just described the mental and physical behaviors of believers

>>>>in the atheist religion.

>>>

>>>

>>>Atheism is a religion? Beep - wrong. Nobody's out there signing up

>>>converts.

>>

>>Bull. Atheism evangelizes. Or have you no idea of your fundamentalist,

>>evangelical devotion to your own religion.

>

>

> Religion explicitly entails a belief in some higher being. The belief

> that this fairy tale is not real does not constitute any type of

> religious belief. Personally if I were to adhere to any religion, it

> would be centered around Astarte and natural phenomena.

 

The operative word in the above is "I". The 'higher being' you believe

in religiously is self. I suggest you digest what you write before posting.

>

>

>>>>>Letter to Rabbi Solomon Goldman of Chicago's Anshe Emet Congregation.

>>>>>

>>>>>"If I would follow your advice and Jesus could perceive it, he, as a

>>>>>Jewish teacher, surely would not approve of such behavior."

>>>>>

>>>>>Reply to a Roman Catholic student urging him to pray to Jesus Christ,

>>>>>the Virgin Mary, and convert to Christianity.

>>>>>--- Albert Einstein

>>>>>

>>>>>". I observe that a very large portion of the human race does not

>>>>>believe in God and suffers no visible punishment in consequence. And

>>>>>if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that he would have such

>>>>>an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt his existence."

>>>>>--- Bertrand Russell

>>>>

>>>>Russel the moron.

>>>

>>>

>>>Yup - Roy's the perfect ignorant Xtian - his mind's made up. Everyone

>>>who doesn't believe in his brand of Xtianity is a moron. This includes

>>>Russell, Kant, Einstein, Darwin, Galileo, and a cast of thousands.

>>>Pretty good company. If there ever was a Jesus, (there's no proof of

>>>his existence except for a footnote in an archaic text that refers to

>>>a Christos) he'd be much more at home with those folks than with a

>>>bunch of narrow-minded bigots.

>>

>>Typical atheist zealot's rant.

>

>

> You really feel that Jesus existed? I can understand many believing in

> God - please note belief and not fact. What I can't understand is

> belief in an nonexistent individual born of a virgin (made up 300

> years after the fact), deemed divine (made up 300 years after the

> fact), and later used as an excuse to torture and kill those who

> didn't wish to follow. Yup - makes perfect sense.

 

I am not xian.

Posted

In article <E_-dnSaqyvJTKQnanZ2dnUVZ_u7inZ2d@comcast.com>,

Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote:

> Richard Anacker wrote:

>

> > Virgil , 01.21.2008:

> >

> >

> >>>Irrelevant, idiot.

> >>

> >>It is relevant to your credibility

> >

> >

> > Which credibility? This fool has none at all.

>

> Good to see atheist morons stroking each other in public.

 

It beats seeing idiot Lorr stroking himself in public, which he does

much too often and too publicly

Posted

In article <UqKdnfecitliSwnanZ2dnUVZ_oqhnZ2d@comcast.com>,

Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote:

 

> >>>>>Letter to Rabbi Solomon Goldman of Chicago's Anshe Emet Congregation.

> >>>>>

> >>>>>"If I would follow your advice and Jesus could perceive it, he, as a

> >>>>>Jewish teacher, surely would not approve of such behavior."

> >>>>>

> >>>>>Reply to a Roman Catholic student urging him to pray to Jesus Christ,

> >>>>>the Virgin Mary, and convert to Christianity.

> >>>>>--- Albert Einstein

> >>>>>

> >>>>>". I observe that a very large portion of the human race does not

> >>>>>believe in God and suffers no visible punishment in consequence. And

> >>>>>if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that he would have such

> >>>>>an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt his existence."

> >>>>>--- Bertrand Russell

> >>>>

> >>>>Russel the moron.

 

Russell still being incredibly smarter than Lorr ever hoped to be makes

Lorr sub-imbecilic by comparison.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>Yup - Roy's the perfect ignorant Xtian - his mind's made up.

 

Roy will say he is not a Xtian, and that may well be so, but he IS of

the type that Eric Hoffer calls a True Believer, even if it is not the

Xtian belief.

 

> I am not xian.

Guest Karl Johanson
Posted

"Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:d8Wdne3SCb-l3AnanZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@comcast.com...

> Karl Johanson wrote:

>

>> "Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote

>>

>>>Karl Johanson wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>"Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

>>>>>enough.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

>>>>enough.

>>>

>>>Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of

>>>batman.

>>

>>

>> If you wish to believe a superstitious cause for the universe, you

>> have an infinite number of choices. All are untestable and about

>> equally likely. There might be one god, there might 23 gods, there

>> might be 42 gods, etc. It's as likely that Batman created the

>> universe as that Elohim did. Close to 1 in infinity. The Bible

>> doesn't prove Elohim exists anymore than that comic books prove that

>> Batman is the supreme being.

>>

>> I was showing the implications of your argument.

>

> All you've shown is an abundance of atheist idiocy.

 

You're an atheist, with regard to the notion that batman is a deity.

 

Karl Johanson

Guest Roy Jose Lorr
Posted

Karl Johanson wrote:

> "Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:d8Wdne3SCb-l3AnanZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@comcast.com...

>

>>Karl Johanson wrote:

>>

>>

>>>"Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote

>>>

>>>

>>>>Karl Johanson wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>"Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

>>>>>>enough.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Batman needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof

>>>>>enough.

>>>>

>>>>Perhaps you'll explain how my existence proves the existence of

>>>>batman.

>>>

>>>

>>>If you wish to believe a superstitious cause for the universe, you

>>>have an infinite number of choices. All are untestable and about

>>>equally likely. There might be one god, there might 23 gods, there

>>>might be 42 gods, etc. It's as likely that Batman created the

>>>universe as that Elohim did. Close to 1 in infinity. The Bible

>>>doesn't prove Elohim exists anymore than that comic books prove that

>>>Batman is the supreme being.

>>>

>>>I was showing the implications of your argument.

>>

>>All you've shown is an abundance of atheist idiocy.

>

>

> You're an atheist, with regard to the notion that batman is a deity.

 

Sure.

Posted

In article <RPCdnTR9vKBeHQjanZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d@comcast.com>,

Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote:

> > You're an atheist, with regard to the notion that batman is a deity.

>

> Sure.

 

Batman is as rational deity as any other, so why reject him?

Guest wbyeats@ireland.com
Posted

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:31:49 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net>

wrote:

>>>>"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a

>>>>fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by

>>>>a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned

>>>>men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a

>>>>sufferer but as a fighter."

>>>>

>>>>Guess who said the above? There is as much evidence Hitler was a

>>>>Christian as that he was not. He does seem to believe in some type of

>>>>God so to profess that Hitler was an atheist is very dubious at best.

>>>

>>>You make my point. Politics has people saying all sorts of untruths. As

>>>I said.

>>

>>

>> ....and all the good little Christians just went along. Says much more

>> about religion than politics. And there are a great many including

>> yourself who's love to see the two go hand in hand in the US.

>

>Sheephood is not restricted to a specific class.

 

Open wide and say baaaa.

>>>>>>Most political and religious leaders throughout history have had no

>>>>>>troulble killing millions of people----especially religious leaders.

>>>>>>Religion has everything to do with terrorism Anyone who doesn't

>>>>>>understand that has never been exposed to a decent history course or

>>>>>>history book.

>>>>>

>>>>>Anyone who takes history courses and books at face value needs a

>>>>>tutorial in reality.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>So you're going to rewrite history to rationalize your ignorance?

>>>>Figures!

>>>

>>>Ignorance is taking necessarily biased accounts of history at face value.

>>

>>

>> Biased acount of what?

>

>History. Learn to read.

 

Now tell us all exactly which history you're referring to? Crusades,

Inquisition, pogroms, or the Holocaust. All of which occurred as a

result of religion or hatred against another religion. Refute it.

> But I do understand your mindset - it's made up

>> and gets confused when faced with historical fact(s).

>

>What is an "historical fact"?

 

I guess you really are ignorant as a log. But let me give you one

anyway. In the late 1400's in Spain the monarchs got together with the

church to burn and torture 'heretics' who either would not accept

Christ or would not confess their 'sins'.

>>>>>>And we must not exclude the Jewish leaders---including the main Man

>>>>>>himself . G-d that is.

>>>>>

>>>>>Hmm... the obligatory anti God hysteria.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Anti-God hysteria. The burden of proof is on the believers - not on

>>>>the non-believers. Now prove to us all that there is a God. Hint -

>>>>Kant couldn't and you can't.

>>>

>>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof enough.

>>

>>

>> God is a belief made up by humans to try and explain what they don't

>> understand and to use as a crutch in time of need. Don't confuse your

>> faith with the physical world. It's inane, ignorant, and far from any

>> truth.

>

>Nice rant. You should give it from your pulpit.

 

Not a rant Giles God-boy. That reference just went right over your

tiny brain.

>>>>>>SEE Atrocities in the Bible. Shalom aleichem

>>>>>>http://thetruth.hypermart.net/bible/atrocities.htm

>>>>>

>>>>>Absolute exploitative insanity.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Excuse me - it's in the Bible and isn't everything in the Bible God's

>>>>honest truth?

>>>

>>>To what in the Bible do you refer? If all you're going to do is

>>>regurgitate garbage from that Jew hating web site you'll be engaging in

>>>a conceptually irrelevant act.

>>

>>

>> Just who are you talking to? Apparently not me as I've said nothing

>> nor referenced anything which has to do with Judaism or its adherents.

>> Try and stay on point. BTW - Judaism is much more on point than

>> Xtianity. At least there's some real history attached to it.

>

>Yes, I'm talking to you, that should be obvious. Your use of a Jew

>hating website to promote your own religious ideology makes clear your

>agenda. I suggest you pay attention to what you write.

 

Wasn't me Bozo - try looking before you leap to conclusions.

>>>>>>Also see:

>>>>>>http://www.geocities.com/shatila1982/masspictures.html

>>>>>

>>>>>Arab propaganda.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Yeah, right. And the Holocaust was Jewish propaganda foisted off by

>>>>the Rothschilds as truth. And the Inquisition was just a pop quiz. And

>>>>the Crusades a cruise on Holland-America. And pogroms were cheerleader

>>>>props.

>>>

>>>Denial suits you.

>>

>>

>> Excuse me - denial of what? Or don't you understand sarcasm. Try

>> hitting yourself upside the head and jumpstarting your brain.

>

>Denial comes in the form of you thinking sarcasm hides the fact that you

>use arab propaganda to further your agenda?

 

Exactly what Arab propaganda is that. I didn't reference any site.

>>

>>>>PS - you and the Muslims have the exact same God.

>>>

>>>Bull.

>>

>>

>> There's more than one? Oh, I know what you're saying. Your God's

>> better than their God.

>

>No. I said they are not the same God.

 

Okay - so now there's more than one.

>>>>>>Catholics today all try to repudiate Adolf Hitler and deny that he was

>>>>>>a fellow Roman Catholic. But this was definitely not the case so long

>>>>>>as he was in power, In fact, Hitler could not have come to power

>>>>>>without the assistance of the Vatican and the German Catholic Church>

>>>>>>So long as Adolf Hitler was in power, his Roman Catholic Church never

>>>>>>questioned his Catholicism - at least not in public - which is where

>>>>>>it mattered politically.--- just as no one questions GW Bush's

>>>>>>Christianity

>>>>>>--- at least not in public - which is where it matters politically.

>>>>>

>>>>>Hitler could not have come to power without the support of the people,

>>>>>no matter their religious or anti religious affiliations.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Of course - your point is?

>>>

>>>Read what you wrote above.

>>

>>

>> I didn't write it, God boy.

>

>Ooh, ouch - 'God boy'. Antagonism suits you.

>

>>

>>

>>>>>>A man who is convinced of the truth of his religion is indeed never

>>>>>>tolerant. At the least, he is to feel pity for the adherent of another

>>>>>>religion but usually it does not stop there. The faithful adherent of

>>>>>>a religion will try first of all to convince those that believe in

>>>>>>another religion and usually he goes on to hatred if he is not

>>>>>>successful. However, hatred then leads to persecution when the might

>>>>>>of the majority is behind it. In the case of a Christian clergyman,

>>>>>>the tragic-comical is found in this: that the Christian religion

>>>>>>demands love from the faithful, even love for the enemy. This demand,

>>>>>>because it is indeed superhuman, he is unable to fulfill. Thus

>>>>>>intolerance and hatred ring through the oily words of the clergyman.

>>>>>>The love, which on the Christian side is the basis for the

>>>>>>conciliatory attempt towards Judaism is the same as the love of a

>>>>>>child for a cake. That means that it contains the hope that the object

>>>>>>of the love will be eaten up...

>>>>>

>>>>>You have just described the mental and physical behaviors of believers

>>>>>in the atheist religion.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Atheism is a religion? Beep - wrong. Nobody's out there signing up

>>>>converts.

>>>

>>>Bull. Atheism evangelizes. Or have you no idea of your fundamentalist,

>>>evangelical devotion to your own religion.

>>

>>

>> Religion explicitly entails a belief in some higher being. The belief

>> that this fairy tale is not real does not constitute any type of

>> religious belief. Personally if I were to adhere to any religion, it

>> would be centered around Astarte and natural phenomena.

>

>The operative word in the above is "I". The 'higher being' you believe

>in religiously is self. I suggest you digest what you write before posting.

 

Take a few Zantac - might help with your (reading) digestion. What I

said does not imply any belief in 'self'. Nice try God-boy.

>>>>>>Letter to Rabbi Solomon Goldman of Chicago's Anshe Emet Congregation.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>"If I would follow your advice and Jesus could perceive it, he, as a

>>>>>>Jewish teacher, surely would not approve of such behavior."

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Reply to a Roman Catholic student urging him to pray to Jesus Christ,

>>>>>>the Virgin Mary, and convert to Christianity.

>>>>>>--- Albert Einstein

>>>>>>

>>>>>>". I observe that a very large portion of the human race does not

>>>>>>believe in God and suffers no visible punishment in consequence. And

>>>>>>if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that he would have such

>>>>>>an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt his existence."

>>>>>>--- Bertrand Russell

>>>>>

>>>>>Russel the moron.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Yup - Roy's the perfect ignorant Xtian - his mind's made up. Everyone

>>>>who doesn't believe in his brand of Xtianity is a moron. This includes

>>>>Russell, Kant, Einstein, Darwin, Galileo, and a cast of thousands.

>>>>Pretty good company. If there ever was a Jesus, (there's no proof of

>>>>his existence except for a footnote in an archaic text that refers to

>>>>a Christos) he'd be much more at home with those folks than with a

>>>>bunch of narrow-minded bigots.

>>>

>>>Typical atheist zealot's rant.

>>

>>

>> You really feel that Jesus existed? I can understand many believing in

>> God - please note belief and not fact. What I can't understand is

>> belief in an nonexistent individual born of a virgin (made up 300

>> years after the fact), deemed divine (made up 300 years after the

>> fact), and later used as an excuse to torture and kill those who

>> didn't wish to follow. Yup - makes perfect sense.

>

>I am not xian.

 

That might be true(not) but you are the real thing - a genuine idiot.

 

WB Yeats

Guest Roy Jose Lorr
Posted

wbyeats@ireland.com wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:31:49 -0800, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net>

> wrote:

>

>

>>>>>"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a

>>>>>fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by

>>>>>a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned

>>>>>men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a

>>>>>sufferer but as a fighter."

>>>>>

>>>>>Guess who said the above? There is as much evidence Hitler was a

>>>>>Christian as that he was not. He does seem to believe in some type of

>>>>>God so to profess that Hitler was an atheist is very dubious at best.

>>>>

>>>>You make my point. Politics has people saying all sorts of untruths. As

>>>>I said.

>>>

>>>

>>>....and all the good little Christians just went along. Says much more

>>>about religion than politics. And there are a great many including

>>>yourself who's love to see the two go hand in hand in the US.

>>

>>Sheephood is not restricted to a specific class.

>

>

> Open wide and say baaaa.

 

You in heat?

>

>

>>>>>>>Most political and religious leaders throughout history have had no

>>>>>>>troulble killing millions of people----especially religious leaders.

>>>>>>>Religion has everything to do with terrorism Anyone who doesn't

>>>>>>>understand that has never been exposed to a decent history course or

>>>>>>>history book.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Anyone who takes history courses and books at face value needs a

>>>>>>tutorial in reality.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>So you're going to rewrite history to rationalize your ignorance?

>>>>>Figures!

>>>>

>>>>Ignorance is taking necessarily biased accounts of history at face value.

>>>

>>>

>>>Biased acount of what?

>>

>>History. Learn to read.

>

>

> Now tell us all exactly which history you're referring to? Crusades,

> Inquisition, pogroms, or the Holocaust. All of which occurred as a

> result of religion or hatred against another religion. Refute it.

 

Politics.

>

>

>> But I do understand your mindset - it's made up

>>

>>>and gets confused when faced with historical fact(s).

>>

>>What is an "historical fact"?

>

>

> I guess you really are ignorant as a log. But let me give you one

> anyway. In the late 1400's in Spain the monarchs got together with the

> church to burn and torture 'heretics' who either would not accept

> Christ or would not confess their 'sins'.

 

Answer the question.

>

>

>>>>>>>And we must not exclude the Jewish leaders---including the main Man

>>>>>>>himself . G-d that is.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Hmm... the obligatory anti God hysteria.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Anti-God hysteria. The burden of proof is on the believers - not on

>>>>>the non-believers. Now prove to us all that there is a God. Hint -

>>>>>Kant couldn't and you can't.

>>>>

>>>>God needs no proof but since you insist: your existence is proof enough.

>>>

>>>

>>>God is a belief made up by humans to try and explain what they don't

>>>understand and to use as a crutch in time of need. Don't confuse your

>>>faith with the physical world. It's inane, ignorant, and far from any

>>>truth.

>>

>>Nice rant. You should give it from your pulpit.

>

>

> Not a rant Giles God-boy. That reference just went right over your

> tiny brain.

 

Ooh, u soo smaaht.

>

>

>>>>>>>SEE Atrocities in the Bible. Shalom aleichem

>>>>>>>http://thetruth.hypermart.net/bible/atrocities.htm

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Absolute exploitative insanity.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Excuse me - it's in the Bible and isn't everything in the Bible God's

>>>>>honest truth?

>>>>

>>>>To what in the Bible do you refer? If all you're going to do is

>>>>regurgitate garbage from that Jew hating web site you'll be engaging in

>>>>a conceptually irrelevant act.

>>>

>>>

>>>Just who are you talking to? Apparently not me as I've said nothing

>>>nor referenced anything which has to do with Judaism or its adherents.

>>>Try and stay on point. BTW - Judaism is much more on point than

>>>Xtianity. At least there's some real history attached to it.

>>

>>Yes, I'm talking to you, that should be obvious. Your use of a Jew

>>hating website to promote your own religious ideology makes clear your

>>agenda. I suggest you pay attention to what you write.

>

>

> Wasn't me Bozo - try looking before you leap to conclusions.

 

You are a conclusion that needs leaping upon.

>

>

>>>>>>>Also see:

>>>>>>>http://www.geocities.com/shatila1982/masspictures.html

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Arab propaganda.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Yeah, right. And the Holocaust was Jewish propaganda foisted off by

>>>>>the Rothschilds as truth. And the Inquisition was just a pop quiz. And

>>>>>the Crusades a cruise on Holland-America. And pogroms were cheerleader

>>>>>props.

>>>>

>>>>Denial suits you.

>>>

>>>

>>>Excuse me - denial of what? Or don't you understand sarcasm. Try

>>>hitting yourself upside the head and jumpstarting your brain.

>>

>>Denial comes in the form of you thinking sarcasm hides the fact that you

>>use arab propaganda to further your agenda?

>

>

> Exactly what Arab propaganda is that. I didn't reference any site.

 

Is that so? I see you don't care much for 'historical facts'.

Embarrassing, isn't it? BAGL

>

>

>>>>>PS - you and the Muslims have the exact same God.

>>>>

>>>>Bull.

>>>

>>>

>>>There's more than one? Oh, I know what you're saying. Your God's

>>>better than their God.

>>

>>No. I said they are not the same God.

>

>

> Okay - so now there's more than one.

 

There is a huge difference between God and gods.

>

>

>>>>>>>Catholics today all try to repudiate Adolf Hitler and deny that he was

>>>>>>>a fellow Roman Catholic. But this was definitely not the case so long

>>>>>>>as he was in power, In fact, Hitler could not have come to power

>>>>>>>without the assistance of the Vatican and the German Catholic Church>

>>>>>>>So long as Adolf Hitler was in power, his Roman Catholic Church never

>>>>>>>questioned his Catholicism - at least not in public - which is where

>>>>>>>it mattered politically.--- just as no one questions GW Bush's

>>>>>>>Christianity

>>>>>>>--- at least not in public - which is where it matters politically.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Hitler could not have come to power without the support of the people,

>>>>>>no matter their religious or anti religious affiliations.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Of course - your point is?

>>>>

>>>>Read what you wrote above.

>>>

>>>

>>>I didn't write it, God boy.

>>

>>Ooh, ouch - 'God boy'. Antagonism suits you.

>>

>>

>>>

>>>>>>>A man who is convinced of the truth of his religion is indeed never

>>>>>>>tolerant. At the least, he is to feel pity for the adherent of another

>>>>>>>religion but usually it does not stop there. The faithful adherent of

>>>>>>>a religion will try first of all to convince those that believe in

>>>>>>>another religion and usually he goes on to hatred if he is not

>>>>>>>successful. However, hatred then leads to persecution when the might

>>>>>>>of the majority is behind it. In the case of a Christian clergyman,

>>>>>>>the tragic-comical is found in this: that the Christian religion

>>>>>>>demands love from the faithful, even love for the enemy. This demand,

>>>>>>>because it is indeed superhuman, he is unable to fulfill. Thus

>>>>>>>intolerance and hatred ring through the oily words of the clergyman.

>>>>>>>The love, which on the Christian side is the basis for the

>>>>>>>conciliatory attempt towards Judaism is the same as the love of a

>>>>>>>child for a cake. That means that it contains the hope that the object

>>>>>>>of the love will be eaten up...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>You have just described the mental and physical behaviors of believers

>>>>>>in the atheist religion.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Atheism is a religion? Beep - wrong. Nobody's out there signing up

>>>>>converts.

>>>>

>>>>Bull. Atheism evangelizes. Or have you no idea of your fundamentalist,

>>>>evangelical devotion to your own religion.

>>>

>>>

>>>Religion explicitly entails a belief in some higher being. The belief

>>>that this fairy tale is not real does not constitute any type of

>>>religious belief. Personally if I were to adhere to any religion, it

>>>would be centered around Astarte and natural phenomena.

>>

>>The operative word in the above is "I". The 'higher being' you believe

>>in religiously is self. I suggest you digest what you write before posting.

>

>

> Take a few Zantac - might help with your (reading) digestion. What I

> said does not imply any belief in 'self'. Nice try God-boy.

 

Denial suits you.

>

>

>>>>>>>Letter to Rabbi Solomon Goldman of Chicago's Anshe Emet Congregation.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>"If I would follow your advice and Jesus could perceive it, he, as a

>>>>>>>Jewish teacher, surely would not approve of such behavior."

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Reply to a Roman Catholic student urging him to pray to Jesus Christ,

>>>>>>>the Virgin Mary, and convert to Christianity.

>>>>>>>--- Albert Einstein

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>". I observe that a very large portion of the human race does not

>>>>>>>believe in God and suffers no visible punishment in consequence. And

>>>>>>>if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that he would have such

>>>>>>>an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt his existence."

>>>>>>>--- Bertrand Russell

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Russel the moron.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Yup - Roy's the perfect ignorant Xtian - his mind's made up. Everyone

>>>>>who doesn't believe in his brand of Xtianity is a moron. This includes

>>>>>Russell, Kant, Einstein, Darwin, Galileo, and a cast of thousands.

>>>>>Pretty good company. If there ever was a Jesus, (there's no proof of

>>>>>his existence except for a footnote in an archaic text that refers to

>>>>>a Christos) he'd be much more at home with those folks than with a

>>>>>bunch of narrow-minded bigots.

>>>>

>>>>Typical atheist zealot's rant.

>>>

>>>

>>>You really feel that Jesus existed? I can understand many believing in

>>>God - please note belief and not fact. What I can't understand is

>>>belief in an nonexistent individual born of a virgin (made up 300

>>>years after the fact), deemed divine (made up 300 years after the

>>>fact), and later used as an excuse to torture and kill those who

>>>didn't wish to follow. Yup - makes perfect sense.

>>

>>I am not xian.

>

>

> That might be true(not) but you are the real thing - a genuine idiot.

 

Again: 'historical facts' are meaningless to you. Marxist dialectics

ring a bell? Is your real name Billary?

Guest bob young
Posted

Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

> Richard Anacker wrote:

>

> > Virgil , 01.21.2008:

> >

> >

> >>>Irrelevant, idiot.

> >>

> >>It is relevant to your credibility

> >

> >

> > Which credibility? This fool has none at all.

>

> Good to see atheist morons stroking each other in public.

 

Sad to see what the result of religious brainwashing

produces

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