Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 It's not what you said. I guess "Cute is what we aim for" And you won't get that reference. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:Zg6qj.17879$qI.1962@trnddc03... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:s7WdndFQ4qUzQjXanZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com... > >I never said I would sell to criminals. > > > > I was speaking in hypothetical terms. > > So, I was speaking of you as a hypothetical criminal in your hypothetical > scenario. Seems you can't keep your fantasy seperated from your reality. > > >Are you that f cking stupid? > > You certainly are. > > > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:tB4qj.28494$xE.18622@trnddc01... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:vY6dnTzhU-Lt9TXanZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > When? > >> > >> When you said you would sell them to criminals. > >> > >> > >> > >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> > news:MrOpj.84299$U12.34469@trnddc06... > >> >> > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> news:UbednWtJ0rcXPjranZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> > Did I say I was a criminal??? > >> >> > >> >> Yes. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:_5Npj.46140$K%.45823@trnddc04... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:Rc-dnZ16iIVfBzranZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> > Where have I ever said I was a criminal? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "sell them to criminals" > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > > message > >> >> >> > news:ClMpj.6414$qI.4566@trnddc03... > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> >> news:b9mdnbZRr8VmGjranZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> >> > If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to > >> > criminals.....and > >> >> > now > >> >> >> > I > >> >> >> >> > can only buy one gun a month... > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Sorry, but how exactly does this law mean you can only buy 1 gun > > a > >> >> > month? > >> >> >> > I > >> >> >> >> thought you were a criminal and not constrained to obeying the > > law, > >> > or > >> >> >> >> did > >> >> >> > I > >> >> >> >> misunderstand you? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> >> > news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> >> >> RD (The Sandman) wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9 > >> >> >> >> >> > _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > And will eliminate straw purchases....how???? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> It won't. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical > >> >> >> >> >> question, > >> >> >> >> >> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and > > sells > >> >> > them > >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> >> >> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person > > only > >> >> > being > >> >> >> >> >> able to buy one gun a month?" > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys". > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 If you're talking about not giving up you win the cookie. Enjoy it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:cI6qj.17883$qI.7233@trnddc03... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:INSdnQ6zHr5gcjXanZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@comcast.com... > > It was a hypothetical, you moron. > > as was your being a criminal. > > Yea, you certainly have a hard time with that line between your fantasies > and reality. > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:046qj.17497$hF2.876@trnddc02... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:Ha6dnV9N19hkCzXanZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > So when did I say I was a criminal? > >> > >> When you said you would sell guns to criminals. > >> > >> > > >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> > news:Xns9A3B6148181A7Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > >> >> news:MrOpj.84299$U12.34469@trnddc06: > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:UbednWtJ0rcXPjranZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> Did I say I was a criminal??? > >> >> > > >> >> > Yes. > >> >> > >> >> Scout, if it took an IQ of 100 to light the City of Philadelphia, this > >> >> guy would have trouble with a penlite. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > >> >> >> message > >> >> >> news:_5Npj.46140$K%.45823@trnddc04... > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>> news:Rc-dnZ16iIVfBzranZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >>> > Where have I ever said I was a criminal? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> "sell them to criminals" > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > >> >> >>> > message news:ClMpj.6414$qI.4566@trnddc03... > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>> >> news:b9mdnbZRr8VmGjranZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >>> >> > If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to > >> >> >>> >> > criminals.....and > >> >> >> now > >> >> >>> > I > >> >> >>> >> > can only buy one gun a month... > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> Sorry, but how exactly does this law mean you can only buy 1 > >> >> >>> >> gun > >> >> >>> >> a > >> >> >> month? > >> >> >>> > I > >> >> >>> >> thought you were a criminal and not constrained to obeying the > >> >> >>> >> law, or did > >> >> >>> > I > >> >> >>> >> misunderstand you? > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>> >> > news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >>> >> >> RD (The Sandman) wrote: > >> >> >>> >> >> > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9 > >> >> >>> >> >> > _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> >>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> >> >> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. > >> >> >>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> >> > And will eliminate straw purchases....how???? > >> >> >>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> It won't. > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the > >> >> >>> >> >> identical > >> >> >>> >> >> question, > >> >> >>> >> >> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and > >> >> >>> >> >> sells > >> >> >> them > >> >> >>> > to > >> >> >>> >> >> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person > >> >> >>> >> >> only > >> >> >> being > >> >> >>> >> >> able to buy one gun a month?" > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys". > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> > >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 So you're qualified to be a mayor of a major city or a chief of police??? Where do you serve??? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:gk6qj.90970$ds2.1193@trnddc05... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:IeadnZkVaoO7fTXanZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Ah, so you know more than the previous and current administration, the > > previous and current police chief, and the desires of the good people here > > in Philly?? > > "we do believe, we do believe, we do believe...." > > > But you know what? There still isn't a Tinker Bell. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:cS4qj.49758$K%.19823@trnddc04... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:4fSdnY6OY5cACjXanZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > So you're the kind of person that just accepts the conditions....or are > >> > you > >> > the kind that wants someone else to clean up the mess. > >> > >> You are the sort that can't differentiate between your desires and > > reality. > >> What you fantasize about and what is realistic. There is absolutely > > nothing > >> special about the conditions in Philly that is at all likely to alter the > >> observed results of your "suggestion". > >> > >> > >> > People like you sicken me. > >> > >> Yea, I can see how people rooted in reality really screws up your > > delusional > >> fantasies. > >> > >> > >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> > news:Xns9A3B5EC75BDCFSandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> news:5IOdna8ugato9TXanZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> > >> >> > It's never been tried in Philly. > >> >> > >> >> Does gravity act differently in Philly than elsewere? > >> >> > >> >> > But you can relax. Harrisburg won't let Philly institute it's own > > laws > >> >> > and when the western part of the state you're not going to get a > >> >> > statewide law passed. > >> >> > > >> >> > Feel better? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:GuOpj.46148$K%.1807@trnddc04... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:P8mdnbqOMKAfOTranZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> > So give us a chance. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> It's already been tried time and time and time again. It has NEVER > >> >> >> worked. So why should I allow you to fuck people over to try yet > >> >> >> again. Show me > >> >> > that > >> >> >> you have any reasonable proof of producing a different result. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > >> >> >> > message news:CcMpj.17266$hF2.4419@trnddc02... > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> >> news:DeSdnZYLqrsoGTranZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> >> > One a month sales would help hinder the supply???? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> We've had that for quite sometime, and oddly enough we have seen > >> >> >> >> no > >> >> >> > decline > >> >> >> >> in the criminal access to illegal guns. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> >> >> > message news:Xns9A3A912177DC4Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> >> >> >> news:pbmdnWB7jeED7TranZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Eliminating straw buys would be a great start. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Yep, and they are already illegal. Now what?? > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> >> >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> > >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 You just said it all, Cuz. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:ij6qj.17499$hF2.3844@trnddc02... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:4Y6dncLkTb_SfTXanZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Wow, your kids know their Dad's a quitter? > > If that means I'm not stupid enough to continue to try something that > doesn't work, then I suppose I am. On the other hand the definition of > insanity is continueing to try something expecting a different result, but > at leest you're not a quitter. Frankly I would rather be seen by my children > as a quitter than as insane. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:8D4qj.17847$qI.13625@trnddc03... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:5IOdna8ugato9TXanZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > It's never been tried in Philly. > >> > >> Right, and since it's never been tried in a particular place means we can > >> expect different results. > >> > >> Wow. Does this mean cold fusion works, we just have to figure out the > >> location on the planet were it does? > >> > >> Sorry, but there is nothing special about Philly that would reasonably > >> result in different results. > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 If the law isn't passed in Philly you really can't say that. Projecting. unless you won allot of money Sunday night. I did. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:Qk6qj.90971$ds2.17368@trnddc05... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:lpedncIvV9z6fTXanZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > And this new source would be????? > > Asked and answered. > > I will note your poor memory. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:2T4qj.10986$M71.4911@trnddc08... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:l8OdnU3qlZ2u9DXanZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > How could they illegally buy 59 more when they are the source of the > >> > illegal > >> > guns???? > >> > >> They are a source, not the only source, and like any business when one > >> supply dries up or becomes limited they seek new and additional > >> suppliers. > >> > >> Seems you are stupidier than criminals. > >> > >> > >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> > news:nvOpj.17295$hF2.11680@trnddc02... > >> >> > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> news:NMqdnaB84qs2OTranZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> > Legal to buy 60 guns in a month. > >> >> > Legal to buy 1. > >> >> > >> >> and can illegally buy the other 59. After all, you are already engaged > > in > >> >> federal felonies. What difference does it make if you continue to > >> >> break > >> > the > >> >> law? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:13Mpj.2656$xE.1245@trnddc01... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:pbmdnWB7jeED7TranZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> > Eliminating straw buys would be a great start. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> You do realize that straw sales are ALREADY illegal. Right? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> So how much more illegal do you want them to be? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> > news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >> >> > If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself out. > >> >> >> >> > If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > You? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> How do you suggest that be accomplished? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Well yeah, Gov. Ed, two mayors, two chief of police....... your resume? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:nl6qj.90972$ds2.62148@trnddc05... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:JtmdnYFeDas7fTXanZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > That's your choice. > > > > You're not changing my mind or the minds of many of us here in :Philly. > > Well, as least you aren't alone in your stupidity. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:FT4qj.95910$U12.11925@trnddc06... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:v4udnZNqJ5bT9DXanZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > Just read what I wrote and believe it. > >> > >> I read it, I don't believe it, and facts have no impact on your opinions. > >> > >> > >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> > news:KvOpj.84534$U12.18994@trnddc06... > >> >> > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> news:vN6dnYEYFvsjOTranZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> > You;re not going to change my mind. > >> >> > >> >> Well, first you would have to have a mind for me to be able to change > > it. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:R1Mpj.75331$U12.39351@trnddc06... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:cqadnWalQ8-MxDranZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> > If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself out. > >> >> >> > If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> IOW, you want an impossible fantasy.....mean while back in > >> > reality...... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > >> >> >> > news:47a75654$0$25029$607ed4bc@cv.net... > >> >> >> >> RD (The Sandman) wrote: > >> >> >> >> > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> >> >> > news:9-idnZPN-aPEHjvanZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>I'm not opposed to guns. > >> >> >> >> >>I'm opposed to illegal guns. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > So are we opposed to illegal possession of guns. Do you get > >> >> >> >> > it > >> > now, > >> >> >> >> > asshole? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "robw" forgets that ONLY criminals can have guns in or near > >> >> >> >> Chicago. > >> >> >> >> (legality means nothing) > >> >> >> >> "robw" forgets that ONLY criminals shoot unarmed people. > >> >> >> >> "robw" forgets that ONLY the free people are denied a method to > >> > defend > >> >> >> >> thenselvs in Chicago, as ordered by the LIBERAL government that > >> >> >> >> inacted > >> >> >> >> stump stupid laws that cured nothing. > >> >> >> >> "robw" forgets that he is dancing in the blood of other's demise > > to > >> >> >> >> promote his stupidity. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Yup, we have an "attytude" Young really should vacation somewhere else. You wouldn't last two days. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:up6qj.30679$xE.4262@trnddc01... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:GfednY0KmeR9fTXanZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > If he shot his mouth off? > > > > There's bars in South Philly where he'd be toast. > > > > Unless he was Irish. > > and you wonder why you have crime problems in Philly........ > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:iU4qj.90487$ds2.71294@trnddc05... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:dYudnQ-4FdVF9DXanZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > If you have that name in Philly you'd better be Irish. > >> > >> Why? Are you suggesting that people would harm him because of his name? > >> > >> > >> > >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> > news:wyOpj.84694$U12.61095@trnddc06... > >> >> > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> news:V-6dnRSXG-NAOTranZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> > And you're named Kerry. > >> >> > > >> >> > Folks hoping for a girl? > >> >> > >> >> And you are still a dumb fuck > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > > http://www.babynamenetwork.com/baby_names/detail.cfm?name=Kerry&gender=Male > >> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kerry > >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerry_%28name%29 > >> >> http://www.babiesonline.com/babynames/index.asp?name=Kerry > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > >> >> > news:47a78996$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net... > >> >> >> robw, the top posting retard wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Not what you inferred before there. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I've always inferred that you were a retard. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > >> >> >> > news:47a77fd7$0$25048$607ed4bc@cv.net... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>robw wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>My right was taken away.....when? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>Your right to maintain a brain,, the day after your birth! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Goth chicks can be spooky. You talking about Goth Chicks? "DerekSmalls" <SpinalTap@Bass.gov.> wrote in message news:47a8f1c7$0$25041$607ed4bc@cv.net... > robw wrote: > > I've made my opinions known. > > Spooky, eh? Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 You seem to worry about me much, much more than I worry about you. Think about it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:wG6qj.30683$xE.29877@trnddc01... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:vuKdnVD6fr__djXanZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > I've made my opinions known. > > > > What is it you're afraid of here? > > Your stupidity. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:cL5qj.17864$qI.16726@trnddc03... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:4fGdnTDsIspg9DXanZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > It's what's happening in Philly. > >> > >> Whoopee. The fact that it's ALREADY illegal doesn't seem to stop them, so > >> how is making it MORE illegal going to? > >> > >> > >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > >> > news:47a7b62e$0$25018$607ed4bc@cv.net... > >> >> robw the top posting retard wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Let's see, I sell 120 guns to illegal buyers. > >> >> > >> >> Why would you do that? > >> >> Federal laws "prevent" that... don't they? > >> >> > >> >> The more you spew your imaginary thoughts, the more you PROVE how much > >> >> of a jackasss you are. > >> >> > >> >> Stop watching TV! > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Why? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:vz6qj.20074$Ou1.12342@trnddc07... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:ku6dnST8YdkFdjXanZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > You o.k. with one handgun purchase a month? > > No. > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:YL5qj.95915$U12.70805@trnddc06... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:Qv-dnQlsmdH29zXanZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > No, it's true in far too many cases. I've been in these threads before > > and > >> > there's always a couple people who start the "It's my right. I want to > > buy > >> > all the guns I want" blah blah > >> > > >> > Perhaps not you, but far too many of your ilk feel exactly that way. > >> > Screw the crime problem, have to have those guns. > >> > >> How is his wanting guns going to alter the crime problem? > >> > >> > >> > >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > >> > news:47a7b6a4$0$25018$607ed4bc@cv.net... > >> >> robw, the top post retard wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Thank you, you asshole because if the anti-gun ever does win it will > > be > >> >> > because of morons like you. > >> >> > "I want!" > >> >> > > >> >> > Yeah, meanwhile,the NRA tells us oh so how much they want > >> >> > responsible > >> > gun > >> >> > owners. > >> >> > > >> >> > You;re liars. > >> >> > > >> >> > You want to be able to buy guns and screw the consequences. > >> >> > > >> >> > You;re such a f cing fraud. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks for PROVING just how stupid you have become. > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Read. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:TA6qj.20075$Ou1.2656@trnddc07... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:k4KdnWHqLuZCdjXanZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > You just proved you never read anything about the proposed law. > > Oh, so now you're going to tell me that no law abiding person would have had > to comply if this had become law because it wouldn't restrict law abiding > people? > > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:tN5qj.17495$hF2.5005@trnddc02... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:CaqdnaDSg_NU9zXanZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >I also posted that the proposed law would not effect collectors. > >> > >> NOT EVERYONE IS A COLLECTOR. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > But you conveniently left that out. > >> > >> Ok, you aren't going to effect collectors, every other law abiding > >> citizen > >> however WILL be effected. > >> > >> > Oh, it also wouldn't effect law enforcement people, and a few other > >> > groups. > >> > >> Actually, it will unless they are buying the guns through their > > department. > >> As private citizens it effects them just as much as it would anyone else. > >> > >> > >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> > news:5FOpj.17298$hF2.10399@trnddc02... > >> >> > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> news:1_Sdnfb2e5qWODranZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> > Post it. > >> >> > Post when I said that. > >> >> > > >> >> > Bring it. > >> >> > >> >> From: "robw" <noddy...@comcast.net> > >> >> Subject: Re: GUN NUT MASSACRES 5 WOMEN IN CHICAGO CLOTHING STORE > >> >> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:49:48 -0500 > >> >> > >> >> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.indian/msg/339cf4b0a5d607d9?dmode=source > >> >> > >> >> Proof presented. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:pdMpj.2659$xE.1355@trnddc01... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:zvidnaygLpbGzzranZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> > Not true. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Really? So you aren't asking that EVERYONE be limited to purchasing > >> > only > >> >> > one > >> >> >> gun a month? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Odd, I seem to recall someone using your handle making that > > assertion. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> >> > message > >> >> >> > news:Xns9A3A6E194264CSandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> >> >> Magus <nope@noway.net> wrote in news:Zfwpj.65706$Mu4.23945 > >> >> >> >> @bignews7.bellsouth.net: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > RD (The Sandman) wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in > >> >> >> >> >> news:47a5fe4b$0$4049$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net: > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> if guns were illegal in public places, and he did not have a > >> > gun, > >> >> > he > >> >> >> >> >>> would not have ben able to kill so many wonderful, > >> >> >> >> >>> taxpaying, > >> > life > >> >> >> >> >>> lvoing productive innocent citizens who would have made the > > tax > >> >> > cuts > >> >> >> >> >>> possible that gun nuts on the other hands so love to have. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I would bet that his possession of a firearm was illegal. > > Wanna > >> >> >> >> >> bet? > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > I'd even be willing to bet that he was a convicted felon too. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Illegal for him to own a firearm. > >> >> >> >> > Illegal for him to possess a firearm. > >> >> >> >> > Illegal for him to use a firearm anywhere, let alone in > >> >> >> >> > Chicago > >> > and > >> >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >> > mall. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Murder is also illegal, that didn't stop him five instances. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Exactly, but all these anti gunners want to take guns from the > >> >> >> >> folks > >> >> > who > >> >> >> >> didn't do it. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 I'm a pacifist. That might be true. Your point? "DerekSmalls" <SpinalTap@Bass.gov.> wrote in message news:47a8f26d$0$25041$607ed4bc@cv.net... > robw wrote: > > > Seems you avoided the question. > > > > One last chance, gun or knife? > > Against you? > > My wife could take you out with a ball of softened cookie dough. Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Thanks! "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:qB6qj.49772$K%.2991@trnddc04... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Zaydnfa_qtilcTXanZ2dnUVZ_oidnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Seems you avoided the question. > > > > One last chance, gun or knife? > > Sorry, but I have more choices than that, and unlike you I can see that. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:lO5qj.95916$U12.11447@trnddc06... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:HfGdnaZofdG59jXanZ2dnUVZ_h-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >A gun or a knife. > >> > > >> > I narrowed the choices because I figured you'd have trouble. > >> > >> Seems I didn't, but you clearly can't handle more than 2 alternatives > > hence > >> your return to this false binary set. > >> > >> > >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> > news:ZGOpj.46151$K%.39915@trnddc04... > >> >> > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> news:UsadnX_R8obKOzranZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> > 50 yards. > >> >> > > >> >> > You want a gun or a knife to make the kill? > >> >> > >> >> How about a nice crossbow. Silent, Deadly, and all but impossible to > >> > trace. > >> >> > >> >> Oh, that's right we're suppose to assume that criminals would be > > limited > >> > to > >> >> your fantasy limitation of choices. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:gfMpj.6905$M71.4141@trnddc08... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:s-2dnWlsdeLl7DranZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> > My thinking is that if the guy didn't have access to the gun he > >> >> >> > probably > >> >> >> > wouldn't have shot and killed people. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Perhaps, but the issue is, would they still be alive, or would he > >> > simply > >> >> >> have killed them and possibly more by another means. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Are you worried about saving lives, or just making sure they don't > > use > >> >> > guns? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > >> >> >> > news:47a766e1$0$25018$607ed4bc@cv.net... > >> >> >> >> robw, the top postin retard wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Smiling that this is another gun event that we'll stuff down > > your > >> >> >> > throat? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> it wasn't a "gun event", you mental midget. > >> >> >> >> It was a MURDER EVENT. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Yeah asshole, you keep smiling. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I just smiled at your ignorance of what happened. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> YOU LAUGHED just because a gun was used by a retard like you, > >> >> >> >> not > >> >> >> >> because innocent UNARMED PEOPLE were murdered. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> YOU still don't care, or understand. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 No, I'm sorry. When you talked about golf and said shooting range I mistakenly thought you were talking about hitting some 300 yarders. My apologies. I was totally wrong. "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message news:HD6qj.20076$Ou1.18775@trnddc07... > OK, that sentence was confusing. I had mentioned the need for more than one > type of golf club, and then started talking about going to the range, when I > should have said "gun range". If you had read a little further, you might > even have figured that out. > > Fact is.....you need more than one kind of gun to participate in the various > kinds of target shooting. And it is a pain in the ass to accomodate > dogooders with the one gun per month rule, when it doesn't accomplish the > stated purpose. The real purpose is to give gun owners another hoop to jump > through. > > As an aside...I just got back from a great afternoon at the shooting sports > club, and my buddy gave me a personalized photograph of Irlene Mandrell to > go with my new CZ75B. > > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:1padnfZJe5OAPjXanZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Why would you take a gun to a driving range? > > > > You afraid the "Bad Birdie Posse" might strike???? > > > > Moron. > > > > > > > > > > "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:3j1qj.17474$hF2.616@trnddc02... > >> You are correct that I can be considered armed if I own one gun. And > >> yes, > >> one could buy guns in two separate months. The point I am getting at is > >> that the one gun per month doesn't prevent an individual from doing what > >> I > >> want to do...it just makes the anti-gun crowd think they are doing > >> something. > >> > >> And back to the golf club analogy. When I go to the range (about 5 > >> times/week...and that's where I am heading at the end of this message), I > >> decided ahead of time what gun I'm taking. I might take two, but I don't > >> take ALL of them on one day. I have guns for CCW, hangun targets, and > > rifle > >> targets. (I don't hunt). There are guns in different calibres, so that > >> I > >> can shoot cheap 22s at the end of my daily ammo budget. So that is why I > >> have more than one gun....not "to be armed", but to enjoy a hobby. It is > >> like practicing at a golf driving range with one or two clubs. I'm going > >> into this detail because I don't think you have a complete perspective on > >> what typical gun owners do with their guns. > >> > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:mrKdnUUsR4i7BDXanZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > Handgun. > >> > > >> > And to further your golf club routine, that pretty much kills your > > points > >> > 1, > >> > 5, and 6. If you have as many guns as clubs you're not exactly unarmed, > >> > are > >> > you? > >> > > >> > And the proposed law would not effect collectors, so that kills that > > one. > >> > > >> > Oh, and the sons thing......you buy one gun in November and one in > >> > December > >> > maybe??? > >> > > >> > > >> > "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message > >> > news:qh0qj.17638$qI.4754@trnddc03... > >> >> > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> news:AZOdne9YC_QB9jXanZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> > Why would people who are not criminals have a need to purchase more > >> >> > than > >> >> > one > >> >> > handgun a month? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> You mean besides "because I want to"? Well here are some reasons "I > >> >> might > >> >> want to". > >> >> 1. OK. You apply for a CCW and you have to list the serial numbers on > >> >> the > >> >> application for up to three guns. So you need to buy up to three at > > one > >> >> time, or wait 3 months. > >> >> 2. You want to buy a gun that suddenly came available at a good > >> >> price, > >> > but > >> >> you just bought a gun 3 weeks earlier. > >> >> 3. You are a collector. > >> >> 4. You want to give your sons matching guns for Christmas. ("Give" > > means > >> >> going with them to a FFL dealer and doing a face-to-face transfer, > > along > >> >> with all the paperwork.) > >> >> 5. You bought a gun and had a problem with it. You want to replace > > it, > >> > but > >> >> it is already registered in your name. In this case, you are going to > >> >> end > >> >> up with one gun, but it requires buying two within one month, and > > selling > >> >> one during the same month. > >> >> 6. Your only CCW gun has a problem requiring it to be returned for > >> > factory > >> >> repair. You have just bought a gun for non-CCW use, and you want to > >> >> buy > > a > >> >> 2nd CCW gun. > >> >> 7. You took up "Cowboy" shooting as a hobby, and you don't own any > >> >> old > >> >> style revolvers. > >> >> etc, etc. etc. > >> >> > >> >> I could go on and on.....but you won't be satisfied. Note that your 1 > >> >> gun > >> >> per month rule didn't prevent any of the transactions described above. > >> > The > >> >> process was simply complicated, delayed, and perhaps made more > > expensive. > >> >> > >> >> Your next question is why would anyone want more than one gun. Think > > of > >> > it > >> >> like golf clubs...why does a golfer need more than one club? 'Cuz you > >> >> use > >> >> them for different things. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 I brought game every time I was posed a question. Fact. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:3D6qj.11000$M71.10472@trnddc08... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:FP-dncggU5PEbTXanZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >I answered Sandman some time ago when this same type thread got started. > > > > He knows. > > I suspect you danced around then too and never did answer his question. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:yQ5qj.49763$K%.16217@trnddc04... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:7NWdnYu0IZkTBDXanZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > Ah, I was waiting for this. > >> > > >> > You do remember we did this dance some time back and I never backed > > down? > >> > > >> > Not happening now. > >> > > >> > I'll respond to you, no problem. > >> > But your memory is apparently not all that good. > >> > >> I note you didn't answer his question. > >> > >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> > news:Xns9A3B6397DF843Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> news:AZOdne9YC_QB9jXanZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> > >> >> > Why would people who are not criminals have a need to purchase more > >> >> > than one handgun a month? > >> >> > >> >> Exactly what does "need" have to do with a right? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> > >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 have you been following this? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:%B6qj.10999$M71.2165@trnddc08... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:ZLmdnfwL9-8VcTXanZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Handguns. > > The proposed law only included handguns. > > So? I want to own 1 million handguns. Do you have a problem with that? > > > > I thought you said you were aware of what was happening here. > > > > Perhaps you should get some knowledge. > > > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:aP5qj.10996$M71.6902@trnddc08... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:AZOdne9YC_QB9jXanZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > Why would people who are not criminals have a need to purchase more > >> > than > >> > one > >> > handgun a month? > >> > >> Well to own 1 million guns as you said I could, I would need to buy more > >> than one gun a month. > >> > >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> > news:IJOpj.6934$M71.6819@trnddc08... > >> >> > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> news:24ednZ278INVOjranZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> > People who are collectors. > >> >> > >> >> Which isn't everyone. Hence everyone else, almost all of whom are NOT > >> >> criminals shall be restricted because of your vain attempt to regulate > >> >> illegal guns. As if criminals are going to obey the law. > >> >> > >> >> > Who sell them? Asshole. > >> >> > >> >> Criminals. > >> >> > >> >> > Make a living that way, asshole??? > >> >> > >> >> Sure, they make money selling illegal drugs, and they also make money > >> >> selling illegal guns. Oddly, the term "Black Market" was coined to > >> >> express > >> >> the fact that criminals can buy stuff which the law says isn't > >> >> allowed. > >> >> Weird. Criminals find ways to get what they want even if it's illegal. > >> >> > >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:z_Mpj.2749$xE.1784@trnddc01... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:2pKdnakv2-DxBTranZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> > The proposal wouldn't have effected collectors. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Really? Every lawful citizen is a gun collector? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> If not, then you have yet to address the point made. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Your next point ? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> That you couldn't address the point about Philly, a topic you > > brought > >> > to > >> >> > the > >> >> >> table, BTW. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > > message > >> >> >> > news:l0Mpj.46128$K%.20160@trnddc04... > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> >> news:TYSdnR5SR9CkzzranZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> >> > Im "get it" that morons like you have no regard for limiting > >> > illegal > >> >> >> > guns. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> How? By limiting legal guns like was proposed in Philly? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> >> >> > message > >> >> >> >> > news:Xns9A3A6DEEB9FC1Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> >> >> >> news:9-idnZPN-aPEHjvanZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > I'm not opposed to guns. > >> >> >> >> >> > I'm opposed to illegal guns. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> So are we opposed to illegal possession of guns. Do you get > > it > >> >> >> >> >> now, > >> >> >> >> >> asshole? > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> >> >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Just want to know what city you lived in. Problem,? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:AD6qj.11001$M71.590@trnddc08... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:X_udnYxP3b1WbTXanZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >I asked you what city you lived in. > > > > Problem? > > > > Were you in the witness protection program or something?? > > > > It's a real simple question. > > > And I asked you why it mattered. It's a real simple question. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:UQ5qj.10997$M71.7562@trnddc08... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:raadnYEs3NMi9jXanZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > But you've lived in what city? > >> > >> Why does that matter? > >> > >> > >> > >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> > news:kKOpj.17300$hF2.3938@trnddc02... > >> >> > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> news:KqKdncSXBeVvOjranZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> > Oh, you live in the sticks? > >> >> > >> >> Currently. I like it better. Fewer assholes like you. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:e2Npj.17272$hF2.2949@trnddc02... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:kpqdnfNprPrEBzranZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> > wanna come up to Philly and I'll buy a drink with that 8k???? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I doubt he wants a drink of sewer water. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > >> >> >> > news:47a78ae2$0$25036$607ed4bc@cv.net... > >> >> >> >> robw, thr top[ posting retard wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to > >> > criminals.....and > >> >> > now > >> >> >> > I > >> >> >> >> > can only buy one gun a month... > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> That would be a federal crime, you jackass. > >> >> >> >> Have you EVER paid attention? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Ya' wanna buy stock in my company????? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> You aren't smart enough to own a company. > >> >> >> >> Hells bells! > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> You also lied when you said you won 8k on the Superbowl. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Your so full of shit, you make your brown eye blue! > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Were there 400 murders where you live last year? "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message news:9s6qj.76742$N67.43060@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > robw wrote: > > Breaking the laws is generally the first sign. > > > > I'm not convinced the inner city is, by shear numbers, full of criminals. > > I'm convinced that you believe the people in the inner city are > criminals though. > > > > > > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > > news:pR5qj.76724$N67.20198@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > >> robw wrote: > >>> By shear numbers........yes. > >>> > >> What makes them criminals? > >> > >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>> news:d54qj.60982$k27.13050@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >>>> robw wrote: > >>>>> And the felon finds these recruits where? > >>>>> > >>>>> He already has people working for him. > >>>>> > >>>>> It might not be easy to find that many more people that can legally > > buy > >>>>> guns. > >>>>> > >>>>> It;s the inner city, not the burbs. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> Are you saying that the inner city is full of criminals? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>>>> news:JvPpj.91276$K27.38256@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > >>>>>> robw wrote: > >>>>>>> The one gun question..... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Let's see..... I'm a legal buyer who sells the guns to criminals. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Hypothesis accepted. However, what you're describing is NOT a "straw" > >>>>>> sale/purchase. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thugs, as you all so "with it" morons like to refer it to. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Does it make you feel superior to denigrate others? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Why do you feel the need to play the insult card? Because I'm > >>>>>> questioning your preconceptions? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> If I'm buying 30 guns a month and selling them at 30 bucks > > [ profit ] > >>>>> I'm making 900 > >>>>>>> bucks a month. > >>>>>>> (you following this?) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Seemingly much better than you are. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> If I can only buy one handgun a month my profits kinda go down. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Any questions? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> So the felon working the straw-purchase scheme recruits more people > > to > >>>>>> buy guns for him, increasing the number of criminals and amount of > >>> crime. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>> news:s1Mpj.91016$L%6.45696@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >>>>>>>>> So what is your definition and you might want to pas it along to > > Lou > >>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> Lou's pawn Shop [ Lou's Loans ] who got closed for such sales. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Someone gives you the money and you buy a gun for them is a straw > >>>>>>>> purchase. Doesn't matter if it's one gun or several. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> In a straw-purchase scheme, a felon, barred by law from buying > > guns, > >>>>>>>> recruits someone who can legally buy guns. The intermediary fills > > out > >>>>>>>> forms, passes a background check, purchases the guns, then gives > > them > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>> the felon, who uses them to commit crimes or illegally resells them > >>> for > >>>>>>>> a big profit. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Lou's Loans lost its license because of a multitude of violations > >>> of > >>>>>>>> federal gun laws, some of those violations were straw > >>>>>>>> sales/purchases--also there were illegal purchases and selling > >>> multiple > >>>>>>>> guns to a person without notifying the ATF in violation of the > >>> Federal > >>>>>>>> Multiple Handgun Reporting program. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> How does one gun a month eliminate "straw purchases"? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>> news:ToLpj.90999$L%6.70175@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >>>>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, let's see....... > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to > >>> people > >>>>>>> who > >>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>>> not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able to > > buy > >>>>> one > >>>>>>>>> gun a > >>>>>>>>>>> month? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> That is not, by definition, a straw sale. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Back to the original situation and question, how does 'one gun a > >>>>> month' > >>>>>>>>>> prevent straw buys? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>> news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >>>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it from > > the > >>>>>>>>> dealer. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun Reporting > >>>>>>> program. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any > >>> "multiple > >>>>>>>>>>>> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five > > consecutive > >>>>>>>>>>>> business days. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> And before you even start, this would not include people with > >>>>>>>>>>> collector's > >>>>>>>>>>>>> licenses. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's > > license"? > >>>>> Or > >>>>>>>>>>>> would this be a new requirement? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Straw buys are currently illegal. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you propose to eliminate them? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself > >>> out. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished? > >>> > > > > Quote
Guest Magus Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 robw wrote: > Are you a criminal or an honest and responsible gun owner? > If a criminal, then it's illegal for me to possess a firearm. If a honest and responsible gun owner, then why does it matter how many handguns I purchase withing a month? What's your point? > > > > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > news:6V5qj.76727$N67.65466@bignews5.bellsouth.net... >> robw wrote: >>> If you don't have a gun to shoot me, you can't shoot me. >>> >> But I thought you weren't advocating gun bans--or is your true agenda >> showing through? >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >>> news:H84qj.60984$k27.17298@bignews2.bellsouth.net... >>>> robw wrote: >>>>> Hint: we want to stop those felonies. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> That's the same thing the people who passed the law creating the >>>> felonies to begin with wanted to do--stop a behavior. >>>> >>>> You're not going to change a behavior pattern by making something that >>>> already illegal even illegaler. >>>> >>>> >>>> > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 People who are legal to buy guns are doing so and selling them to criminals. You getting this? Lou's?????? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:qC6qj.49773$K%.14558@trnddc04... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:pq2dnQp866i_bDXanZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@comcast.com... > > Breaking the laws is generally the first sign. > > So why do you think they will suddenly start obeying the law? > > > > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > > news:pR5qj.76724$N67.20198@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > >> robw wrote: > >> > By shear numbers........yes. > >> > > >> > >> What makes them criminals? > >> > >> > > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> > news:d54qj.60982$k27.13050@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >> >> robw wrote: > >> >>> And the felon finds these recruits where? > >> >>> > >> >>> He already has people working for him. > >> >>> > >> >>> It might not be easy to find that many more people that can legally > > buy > >> >>> guns. > >> >>> > >> >>> It;s the inner city, not the burbs. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> Are you saying that the inner city is full of criminals? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >>> news:JvPpj.91276$K27.38256@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > >> >>>> robw wrote: > >> >>>>> The one gun question..... > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Let's see..... I'm a legal buyer who sells the guns to criminals. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> Hypothesis accepted. However, what you're describing is NOT a > >> >>>> "straw" > >> >>>> sale/purchase. > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> Thugs, as you all so "with it" morons like to refer it to. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> Does it make you feel superior to denigrate others? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Why do you feel the need to play the insult card? Because I'm > >> >>>> questioning your preconceptions? > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> If I'm buying 30 guns a month and selling them at 30 bucks > > [ profit ] > >> >>> I'm making 900 > >> >>>>> bucks a month. > >> >>>>> (you following this?) > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> Seemingly much better than you are. > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> If I can only buy one handgun a month my profits kinda go down. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Any questions? > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> So the felon working the straw-purchase scheme recruits more people > > to > >> >>>> buy guns for him, increasing the number of criminals and amount of > >> > crime. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >>>>> news:s1Mpj.91016$L%6.45696@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >>>>>> robw wrote: > >> >>>>>>> So what is your definition and you might want to pas it along to > > Lou > >> >>> of > >> >>>>>>> Lou's pawn Shop [ Lou's Loans ] who got closed for such sales. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Someone gives you the money and you buy a gun for them is a straw > >> >>>>>> purchase. Doesn't matter if it's one gun or several. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> In a straw-purchase scheme, a felon, barred by law from buying > > guns, > >> >>>>>> recruits someone who can legally buy guns. The intermediary fills > > out > >> >>>>>> forms, passes a background check, purchases the guns, then gives > > them > >> >>> to > >> >>>>>> the felon, who uses them to commit crimes or illegally resells > >> >>>>>> them > >> > for > >> >>>>>> a big profit. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Lou's Loans lost its license because of a multitude of > >> >>>>>> violations > >> > of > >> >>>>>> federal gun laws, some of those violations were straw > >> >>>>>> sales/purchases--also there were illegal purchases and selling > >> > multiple > >> >>>>>> guns to a person without notifying the ATF in violation of the > >> > Federal > >> >>>>>> Multiple Handgun Reporting program. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> How does one gun a month eliminate "straw purchases"? > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>> news:ToLpj.90999$L%6.70175@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>> Well, let's see....... > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to > >> > people > >> >>>>> who > >> >>>>>>> are > >> >>>>>>>>> not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able to > > buy > >> >>> one > >> >>>>>>> gun a > >> >>>>>>>>> month? > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> That is not, by definition, a straw sale. > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Back to the original situation and question, how does 'one gun a > >> >>> month' > >> >>>>>>>> prevent straw buys? > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>>>> news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >>>>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases? > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it from > > the > >> >>>>>>> dealer. > >> >>>>>>>>>> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun Reporting > >> >>>>> program. > >> >>>>>>>>>> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any > >> > "multiple > >> >>>>>>>>>> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five > > consecutive > >> >>>>>>>>>> business days. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> And before you even start, this would not include people with > >> >>>>>>>>> collector's > >> >>>>>>>>>>> licenses. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's > > license"? > >> >>> Or > >> >>>>>>>>>> would this be a new requirement? > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>>>>>> news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Straw buys are currently illegal. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> How do you propose to eliminate them? > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself > >> > out. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You? > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished? > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Do you think Philly has more Starf cks than cherry Hill Nj? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:wF6qj.17500$hF2.12209@trnddc02... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:n5udnZjl9M8ebDXanZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > So a city of millions would not have more of everything you could name > > than > > a suburban community of couple hundred thou??????? > > I see. So you don't believe in rates? > > If a city of 10,000,000 has 1,000 homicides then that is far worse than a > city of 2,000 that has 500 homicides? > > Further, even in the city, even by shear numbers few people are criminals. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:IT5qj.20067$Ou1.14023@trnddc07... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:b6OdnY4jnNG2fDXanZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > By shear numbers........yes. > >> > >> Proof. > >> > >> > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> > news:d54qj.60982$k27.13050@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> > And the felon finds these recruits where? > >> >> > > >> >> > He already has people working for him. > >> >> > > >> >> > It might not be easy to find that many more people that can legally > > buy > >> >> > guns. > >> >> > > >> >> > It;s the inner city, not the burbs. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> Are you saying that the inner city is full of criminals? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:JvPpj.91276$K27.38256@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >>> The one gun question..... > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Let's see..... I'm a legal buyer who sells the guns to criminals. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> Hypothesis accepted. However, what you're describing is NOT a > > "straw" > >> >> >> sale/purchase. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> Thugs, as you all so "with it" morons like to refer it to. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> Does it make you feel superior to denigrate others? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Why do you feel the need to play the insult card? Because I'm > >> >> >> questioning your preconceptions? > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> If I'm buying 30 guns a month and selling them at 30 bucks > > [ profit ] > >> >> > I'm making 900 > >> >> >>> bucks a month. > >> >> >>> (you following this?) > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> Seemingly much better than you are. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> If I can only buy one handgun a month my profits kinda go down. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Any questions? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> So the felon working the straw-purchase scheme recruits more people > > to > >> >> >> buy guns for him, increasing the number of criminals and amount of > >> > crime. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>> news:s1Mpj.91016$L%6.45696@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >>>> robw wrote: > >> >> >>>>> So what is your definition and you might want to pas it along to > >> >> >>>>> Lou > >> >> > of > >> >> >>>>> Lou's pawn Shop [ Lou's Loans ] who got closed for such sales. > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>> Someone gives you the money and you buy a gun for them is a straw > >> >> >>>> purchase. Doesn't matter if it's one gun or several. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> In a straw-purchase scheme, a felon, barred by law from buying > > guns, > >> >> >>>> recruits someone who can legally buy guns. The intermediary fills > >> >> >>>> out > >> >> >>>> forms, passes a background check, purchases the guns, then gives > >> >> >>>> them > >> >> > to > >> >> >>>> the felon, who uses them to commit crimes or illegally resells > > them > >> > for > >> >> >>>> a big profit. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Lou's Loans lost its license because of a multitude of > > violations > >> > of > >> >> >>>> federal gun laws, some of those violations were straw > >> >> >>>> sales/purchases--also there were illegal purchases and selling > >> > multiple > >> >> >>>> guns to a person without notifying the ATF in violation of the > >> > Federal > >> >> >>>> Multiple Handgun Reporting program. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> How does one gun a month eliminate "straw purchases"? > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>>>> news:ToLpj.90999$L%6.70175@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >>>>>> robw wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>> Well, let's see....... > >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>> If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to > >> > people > >> >> >>> who > >> >> >>>>> are > >> >> >>>>>>> not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able to > >> >> >>>>>>> buy > >> >> > one > >> >> >>>>> gun a > >> >> >>>>>>> month? > >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> That is not, by definition, a straw sale. > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> Back to the original situation and question, how does 'one gun > >> >> >>>>>> a > >> >> > month' > >> >> >>>>>> prevent straw buys? > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>>>>>> news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. > >> >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases? > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it from > > the > >> >> >>>>> dealer. > >> >> >>>>>>>> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun Reporting > >> >> >>> program. > >> >> >>>>>>>> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any > >> > "multiple > >> >> >>>>>>>> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five > >> >> >>>>>>>> consecutive > >> >> >>>>>>>> business days. > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> And before you even start, this would not include people > >> >> >>>>>>>>> with > >> >> >>>>>>> collector's > >> >> >>>>>>>>> licenses. > >> >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's > >> >> >>>>>>>> license"? > >> >> > Or > >> >> >>>>>>>> would this be a new requirement? > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>>>>>>>> news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Straw buys are currently illegal. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> How do you propose to eliminate them? > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself > >> > out. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You? > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished? > >> >> >>> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 I asked you where this college thing happened. Where? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:UD6qj.20077$Ou1.10102@trnddc07... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:79-dnRhU1Yk9bDXanZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Down where? > > Exactly. > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:_S5qj.95919$U12.93582@trnddc06... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:UcGdnVNIsuvb8DXanZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > And the felon finds these recruits where? > >> > >> Well, down here they found college students who needed some extra money. > >> Though anyone willing to make a little quick easy cash would do. > >> > >> > >> > > >> > He already has people working for him. > >> > >> So much for your claim he can only get 1 a month. > >> > >> > It might not be easy to find that many more people that can legally buy > >> > guns. > >> > >> Actually a lot of people can legally buy guns. > >> > >> > It;s the inner city, not the burbs. > >> > >> Ah, so your contention is that the inner city is filled with nothing but > >> criminals? > >> > >> I can see why you would want to restict law abiding citizens any access > >> to > >> guns. > >> > >> > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> > news:JvPpj.91276$K27.38256@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> > The one gun question..... > >> >> > > >> >> > Let's see..... I'm a legal buyer who sells the guns to criminals. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> Hypothesis accepted. However, what you're describing is NOT a "straw" > >> >> sale/purchase. > >> >> > >> >> > Thugs, as you all so "with it" morons like to refer it to. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> Does it make you feel superior to denigrate others? > >> >> > >> >> Why do you feel the need to play the insult card? Because I'm > >> >> questioning your preconceptions? > >> >> > >> >> > If I'm buying 30 guns a month and selling them at 30 bucks > >> >> > [ profit ] > >> > I'm making 900 > >> >> > bucks a month. > >> >> > (you following this?) > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> Seemingly much better than you are. > >> >> > >> >> > If I can only buy one handgun a month my profits kinda go down. > >> >> > > >> >> > Any questions? > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> So the felon working the straw-purchase scheme recruits more people to > >> >> buy guns for him, increasing the number of criminals and amount of > > crime. > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:s1Mpj.91016$L%6.45696@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >>> So what is your definition and you might want to pas it along to > > Lou > >> > of > >> >> >>> Lou's pawn Shop [ Lou's Loans ] who got closed for such sales. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> Someone gives you the money and you buy a gun for them is a straw > >> >> >> purchase. Doesn't matter if it's one gun or several. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> In a straw-purchase scheme, a felon, barred by law from buying > >> >> >> guns, > >> >> >> recruits someone who can legally buy guns. The intermediary fills > > out > >> >> >> forms, passes a background check, purchases the guns, then gives > > them > >> > to > >> >> >> the felon, who uses them to commit crimes or illegally resells them > >> >> >> for > >> >> >> a big profit. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Lou's Loans lost its license because of a multitude of violations > > of > >> >> >> federal gun laws, some of those violations were straw > >> >> >> sales/purchases--also there were illegal purchases and selling > >> >> >> multiple > >> >> >> guns to a person without notifying the ATF in violation of the > > Federal > >> >> >> Multiple Handgun Reporting program. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> How does one gun a month eliminate "straw purchases"? > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>> news:ToLpj.90999$L%6.70175@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >>>> robw wrote: > >> >> >>>>> Well, let's see....... > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to > >> >> >>>>> people > >> >> > who > >> >> >>> are > >> >> >>>>> not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able to > > buy > >> > one > >> >> >>> gun a > >> >> >>>>> month? > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>> That is not, by definition, a straw sale. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Back to the original situation and question, how does 'one gun a > >> > month' > >> >> >>>> prevent straw buys? > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>>>> news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >>>>>> robw wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. > >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases? > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it from > >> >> >>>>>> the > >> >> >>> dealer. > >> >> >>>>>> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun Reporting > >> >> > program. > >> >> >>>>>> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any > >> >> >>>>>> "multiple > >> >> >>>>>> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five > > consecutive > >> >> >>>>>> business days. > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>> And before you even start, this would not include people with > >> >> >>>>> collector's > >> >> >>>>>>> licenses. > >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's > > license"? > >> > Or > >> >> >>>>>> would this be a new requirement? > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>>>>>> news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start. > >> >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> Straw buys are currently illegal. > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> How do you propose to eliminate them? > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>>>>>>>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself > > out. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing. > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> You? > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished? > >> >> >>> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Sorry, but I see you as a useless moron that excepts their fate. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:yL6qj.17501$hF2.6760@trnddc02... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:ItOdneILb6GcbzXanZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >I want the murders to stop. > > > > Any means necessary. > > Killing yourself would certainly help, then we would know that no one would > murder you. After all, you did say "Any means necessary", right? > > I will also note that your proposal suggests that any form of oppression, > tyranny, enslavement, etc is perfectly acceptable in that you feel the ends > justifies the use of any means necessary. > > Sorry, but I refuse to live in a world like that. > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 I could give a rat's ass about your position. "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message news:nw6qj.76746$N67.34695@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > robw wrote: > > You're right. > > > > Still not changing my mind and not trying to change yours. > > > > Ah, but do you actually know what my position is? Specially since I > haven't advocated any position, all I've done is try to educate you with > some factual information. > > > feel better? > > > > > > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > > news:8Y5qj.76729$N67.19522@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > >> robw wrote: > >>> I've "advocated" nothing. > >>> > >>> I'm telling you what I believe. > >>> > >>> > >> I believe you're confused. You started your sentence "I advocate..." > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>> news:ed4qj.60991$k27.43841@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >>>> robw wrote: > >>>>> I advocate a law that would significantly reduce the number of guns > >>> being > >>>>> sold to people who can not buy them legally themselves. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> OK, let's examine what you just advocated: > >>>> > >>>> If someone cannot legally buy a gun for themselves then it's illegal to > >>>> sell them one. So now you want to make another law to address the > >>>> already illegal activity of selling guns to prohibited persons. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>>>> news:GBPpj.91279$K27.52336@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > >>>>>> robw wrote: > >>>>>>> Do the math and get back to me. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Math? What math? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Straw sales are illegal behavior, you advocate a law that doesn't > >>>>>> address 'straw' sales/purchases. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>> news:zfMpj.91023$L%6.28591@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >>>>>>>>> If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to > > criminals.....and > >>>>> now > >>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>> can only buy one gun a month... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Which is not "straw" sales. It is a violation of federal > > law--dealing > >>>>> in > >>>>>>>> firearms without a license though and as such is already illegal. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> And if those 60 guns are handguns, then those sales also get > > reported > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>> the ATF in accordance with current federal law. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Ya' wanna buy stock in my company????? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have no desire to participate in your conspiracy to violate > > federal > >>>>>>>> firearms laws. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>> news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >>>>>>>>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9 > >>>>>>>>>>> _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. > >>>>>>>>>>> And will eliminate straw purchases....how???? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> It won't. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical > >>>>> question, > >>>>>>>>>> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells > >>> them > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only > >>> being > >>>>>>>>>> able to buy one gun a month?" > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys". > >>> > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 I've answered every one of your questions. What's your problem? What do you do when faced with adversity? You do have beliefs?????? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:_G6qj.30684$xE.7555@trnddc01... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:MoqdnR1-WPhHbzXanZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >A question, if you will. > > > > How do handle adversity? > > > > What do you do? > > Attempt to change the subject is noted. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:mY5qj.90969$ds2.74365@trnddc05... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:HpSdne2gTan1fDXanZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > I've "advocated" nothing. > >> > > >> > I'm telling you what I believe. > >> > >> Does Peter Pan figure into what you believe as well? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> > news:ed4qj.60991$k27.43841@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> > I advocate a law that would significantly reduce the number of guns > >> > being > >> >> > sold to people who can not buy them legally themselves. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> OK, let's examine what you just advocated: > >> >> > >> >> If someone cannot legally buy a gun for themselves then it's illegal > >> >> to > >> >> sell them one. So now you want to make another law to address the > >> >> already illegal activity of selling guns to prohibited persons. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:GBPpj.91279$K27.52336@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >>> Do the math and get back to me. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> Math? What math? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Straw sales are illegal behavior, you advocate a law that doesn't > >> >> >> address 'straw' sales/purchases. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>> news:zfMpj.91023$L%6.28591@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >>>> robw wrote: > >> >> >>>>> If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to > > criminals.....and > >> >> > now > >> >> >>> I > >> >> >>>>> can only buy one gun a month... > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>> Which is not "straw" sales. It is a violation of federal > >> >> >>>> law--dealing > >> >> > in > >> >> >>>> firearms without a license though and as such is already illegal. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> And if those 60 guns are handguns, then those sales also get > >> >> >>>> reported > >> >> > to > >> >> >>>> the ATF in accordance with current federal law. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>>> Ya' wanna buy stock in my company????? > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>> I have no desire to participate in your conspiracy to violate > >> >> >>>> federal > >> >> >>>> firearms laws. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>>>> news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >>>>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote: > >> >> >>>>>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9 > >> >> >>>>>>> _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. > >> >> >>>>>>> And will eliminate straw purchases....how???? > >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> It won't. > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical > >> >> > question, > >> >> >>>>>> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and > >> >> >>>>>> sells > >> > them > >> >> >>> to > >> >> >>>>>> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only > >> > being > >> >> >>>>>> able to buy one gun a month?" > >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys". > >> >> >>> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
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