Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 To switch gears, that alternative means of supply would be more costly and the only way to make it up would be to screw the buyers. Do you lie on your stomach when you take it up the ass? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:aO6qj.95929$U12.23553@trnddc06... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:VP-dncMSo4XlbjXanZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Really, if someone is selling thirty guns a month to cri minals and now > > they > > can only buy one what does that do for their business. > > > > I'm a retail trainer. > > You are a retail trainer, and you haven't heard of "alternative > suppliers"??? > > ROFL > > >You've apparently found a way to overcome supply and > > demand by actually offering less product at the same margins. > > Na, just switching to an alternative means of supply. > > > You could revolutionize our industry! > > > > We await your enlightenment. > > > > > > > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:NU5qj.30674$xE.18010@trnddc01... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:i-OdnXUcVI9v8DXanZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >I advocate a law that would significantly reduce the number of guns > >> >being > >> > sold to people who can not buy them legally themselves. > >> > >> Sorry, but your one gun a month law doesn't change the number that can be > >> illegally sold to prohibited people in the least. > >> > >> Your stupidity is noted. > >> > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> > news:GBPpj.91279$K27.52336@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> > Do the math and get back to me. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> Math? What math? > >> >> > >> >> Straw sales are illegal behavior, you advocate a law that doesn't > >> >> address 'straw' sales/purchases. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:zfMpj.91023$L%6.28591@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >>> If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to > >> >> >>> criminals.....and > >> > now > >> >> > I > >> >> >>> can only buy one gun a month... > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> Which is not "straw" sales. It is a violation of federal > > law--dealing > >> > in > >> >> >> firearms without a license though and as such is already illegal. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> And if those 60 guns are handguns, then those sales also get > > reported > >> > to > >> >> >> the ATF in accordance with current federal law. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> Ya' wanna buy stock in my company????? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> I have no desire to participate in your conspiracy to violate > > federal > >> >> >> firearms laws. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>> news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote: > >> >> >>>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9 > >> >> >>>>> _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. > >> >> >>>>> And will eliminate straw purchases....how???? > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>> It won't. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical > >> > question, > >> >> >>>> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells > >> >> >>>> them > >> >> > to > >> >> >>>> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only > >> >> >>>> being > >> >> >>>> able to buy one gun a month?" > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys". > >> >> >>> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Read the thread. "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message news:OP6qj.20080$Ou1.18955@trnddc07... > Still trying to understand this. If someone is selling 30 guns/mo to > criminals....are they known felons, in which case the seller is also > breaking the law, as well as the buyer? Or are the 30 guns sold > legitimately, and then the gun turns the buyer to a life of crime? Or are > you wanting to limit retail sales to 1 per month per seller? > .....just trying to understand what you are proposing. > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:VP-dncMSo4XlbjXanZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Really, if someone is selling thirty guns a month to cri minals and now > > they > > can only buy one what does that do for their business. > > > > I'm a retail trainer. You've apparently found a way to overcome supply and > > demand by actually offering less product at the same margins. > > > > You could revolutionize our industry! > > > > We await your enlightenment. > > > > > > > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:NU5qj.30674$xE.18010@trnddc01... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:i-OdnXUcVI9v8DXanZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >I advocate a law that would significantly reduce the number of guns > >> >being > >> > sold to people who can not buy them legally themselves. > >> > >> Sorry, but your one gun a month law doesn't change the number that can be > >> illegally sold to prohibited people in the least. > >> > >> Your stupidity is noted. > >> > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> > news:GBPpj.91279$K27.52336@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> > Do the math and get back to me. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> Math? What math? > >> >> > >> >> Straw sales are illegal behavior, you advocate a law that doesn't > >> >> address 'straw' sales/purchases. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:zfMpj.91023$L%6.28591@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >>> If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to > >> >> >>> criminals.....and > >> > now > >> >> > I > >> >> >>> can only buy one gun a month... > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> Which is not "straw" sales. It is a violation of federal > > law--dealing > >> > in > >> >> >> firearms without a license though and as such is already illegal. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> And if those 60 guns are handguns, then those sales also get > > reported > >> > to > >> >> >> the ATF in accordance with current federal law. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> Ya' wanna buy stock in my company????? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> I have no desire to participate in your conspiracy to violate > > federal > >> >> >> firearms laws. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>> news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote: > >> >> >>>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9 > >> >> >>>>> _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. > >> >> >>>>> And will eliminate straw purchases....how???? > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>> It won't. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical > >> > question, > >> >> >>>> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells > >> >> >>>> them > >> >> > to > >> >> >>>> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only > >> >> >>>> being > >> >> >>>> able to buy one gun a month?" > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys". > >> >> >>> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Oh, so you'd be willing to live somewhere where 400 people were murdered last year and not do anything. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:UO6qj.17884$qI.3198@trnddc03... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:x7KdnWPqOb9KbjXanZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Many of us believe one a month will work. > > A lot of people believe in UFO's, Elvis sightings and Big Foot, but that > doesn't mean it's real. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:1_5qj.49765$K%.32116@trnddc04... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:SOidnRPBn8s1BzXanZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > Problem has gotten too big here. > >> > >> Really? You can't arrest people? > >> > >> > Something else needs to be done. > >> > >> Won't change unless you do something that actually works. > >> > >> > >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> > news:Xns9A3B60D009EB4Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> news:_fCdnbVdD46S8zXanZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> > >> >> > Hint: we want to stop those felonies. > >> >> > >> >> Then arrest those committing them. Even you should be bright enough > >> >> to > >> >> figure that out. > >> >> > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:QDPpj.91281$K27.88919@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >> > Let's see, I sell 120 guns to illegal buyers. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> And each instance of you doing so is a felony. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Now I can only sell one. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> No, now you can only buy one from a FFL dealer. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > You investing????? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > >> >> >> > message news:s3Npj.84358$ds2.38614@trnddc05... > >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> >> news:v-SdnYIoNbMQBzranZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> >>> Do the math and get back to me. > >> >> >> >> Ok, You engage in 120 federal felonies every month. The state > >> >> >> >> passes a > >> >> >> > minor > >> >> >> >> law and suddenly you change your ways, seek God, and now only > >> >> >> >> commit 2 federal felonies each month. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Right, and pigs fly. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> > >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Why would you need more than one handgun a month? "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message news:Sv7qj.91821$K27.17737@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > robw wrote: > > Are you a criminal or an honest and responsible gun owner? > > > > If a criminal, then it's illegal for me to possess a firearm. > > If a honest and responsible gun owner, then why does it matter how many > handguns I purchase withing a month? > > What's your point? > > > > > > > > > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > > news:6V5qj.76727$N67.65466@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > >> robw wrote: > >>> If you don't have a gun to shoot me, you can't shoot me. > >>> > >> But I thought you weren't advocating gun bans--or is your true agenda > >> showing through? > >> > >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>> news:H84qj.60984$k27.17298@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >>>> robw wrote: > >>>>> Hint: we want to stop those felonies. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> That's the same thing the people who passed the law creating the > >>>> felonies to begin with wanted to do--stop a behavior. > >>>> > >>>> You're not going to change a behavior pattern by making something that > >>>> already illegal even illegaler. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 I could really care less what you think. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:sP6qj.17885$qI.14615@trnddc03... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:kp-dnY2vRNP6aTXanZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Are you a criminal or an honest, responsible gun owner. > > > > And I back down from nothing. > > particularly your stupidity. > > > > > You can take that to your pillow, Cuz. > > > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:n_5qj.20069$Ou1.4046@trnddc07... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:7ZmdnXJByKFdfDXanZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > If you don't have a gun to shoot me, you can't shoot me. > >> > >> Evasion noted. > >> > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> > news:H84qj.60984$k27.17298@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> > Hint: we want to stop those felonies. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> That's the same thing the people who passed the law creating the > >> >> felonies to begin with wanted to do--stop a behavior. > >> >> > >> >> You're not going to change a behavior pattern by making something that > >> >> already illegal even illegaler. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:QDPpj.91281$K27.88919@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >>> Let's see, I sell 120 guns to illegal buyers. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> And each instance of you doing so is a felony. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> Now I can only sell one. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> No, now you can only buy one from a FFL dealer. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> You investing????? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > > message > >> >> >>> news:s3Npj.84358$ds2.38614@trnddc05... > >> >> >>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>>> news:v-SdnYIoNbMQBzranZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >>>>> Do the math and get back to me. > >> >> >>>> Ok, You engage in 120 federal felonies every month. The state > > passes > >> > a > >> >> >>> minor > >> >> >>>> law and suddenly you change your ways, seek God, and now only > > commit > >> > 2 > >> >> >>>> federal felonies each month. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Right, and pigs fly. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest Magus Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 robw wrote: > Were there 400 murders where you live last year? > No. But then, I don't live were "There... this is... this is a social problem."--John Street > > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > news:9s6qj.76742$N67.43060@bignews5.bellsouth.net... >> robw wrote: >>> Breaking the laws is generally the first sign. >>> >> I'm not convinced the inner city is, by shear numbers, full of criminals. >> >> I'm convinced that you believe the people in the inner city are >> criminals though. >> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >>> news:pR5qj.76724$N67.20198@bignews5.bellsouth.net... >>>> robw wrote: >>>>> By shear numbers........yes. >>>>> >>>> What makes them criminals? >>>> Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 How could more than a gun a month do the same thing? You can shoot forty handguns at a clip? I thought you gun cats only needed one bullet? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:MP6qj.17886$qI.6280@trnddc03... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:SMednTSHFra-aDXanZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > You couldn't live with a one handgun a month law if it could protect your > > family??? > > How would limiting my access to arms help protect my family? > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:5Z5qj.95921$U12.11147@trnddc06... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:_fCdnbVdD46S8zXanZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > Hint: we want to stop those felonies. > >> > >> Right, so rather than push to enforce the laws, we'll simply add yet > > another > >> law they can ignore with the result that nothing will change.....except > > for > >> the law abiding. > >> > >> > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> > news:QDPpj.91281$K27.88919@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> > Let's see, I sell 120 guns to illegal buyers. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> And each instance of you doing so is a felony. > >> >> > >> >> > Now I can only sell one. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> No, now you can only buy one from a FFL dealer. > >> >> > >> >> > You investing????? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:s3Npj.84358$ds2.38614@trnddc05... > >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:v-SdnYIoNbMQBzranZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >>> Do the math and get back to me. > >> >> >> Ok, You engage in 120 federal felonies every month. The state > >> >> >> passes > > a > >> >> > minor > >> >> >> law and suddenly you change your ways, seek God, and now only > >> >> >> commit > > 2 > >> >> >> federal felonies each month. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Right, and pigs fly. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest Magus Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 robw wrote: > People who are legal to buy guns are doing so and selling them to criminals. > Isn't that illegal? > You getting this? > Are you? > Lou's?????? > Wasn't Lou's Loans shut down for illegal activity? Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Then you don't know anything about Best Practices. You see adversity and stick your ass up in the air and quit. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:NS6qj.17502$hF2.1016@trnddc02... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:weadncOhw6bPaDXanZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Do you have any idea of the concept of Best Practices???? > > yep, and you've failed to show how that won't or can't be altered due to > changing conditions. > > You change the conditions, they pick a new means to accomplish their > objective. Welcome to Real Life. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:Z%5qj.95923$U12.78057@trnddc06... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:PY6dneYeENK2BjXanZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > And the straw dealers would get the extra guns from the leprecond with > > the > >> > golden pot??? > >> > >> multiple purchasers, or other illegal sources. Your suggestion has been > >> tried, and that was the result. Criminals still had just as many guns, > >> and > >> just as much access to guns as before. > >> > >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> > news:Xns9A3B5E57C8658Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> news:DeSdnZYLqrsoGTranZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> > >> >> > One a month sales would help hinder the supply???? > >> >> > >> >> Dealers are already required to report multiple sales within a week. > > One > >> >> sale a month will not affect private sales only dealers who already > > have > >> > to > >> >> report it. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> > >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest Magus Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 robw wrote: > Sorry, but I see you as a useless moron that excepts their fate. > Accepts? Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Would you like to give me a dollar for every member of the Anti Violence Partnership of Philly? You puffed up. got game? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:nW6qj.20082$Ou1.16525@trnddc07... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:wcCdnS-_qbztazXanZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Well yeah. > > You couldn't fit all the members of the Anti Violence Partnership of > > Philly > > in a mayor's office. > > Oh, I think they could have fit all six of you in there. > > > (hint: sometimes a big group send a smaller group of people to bring their > > views.) > > I'm sure he also appreciated your views of UFO's and Nessy. > > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:Y16qj.17872$qI.6690@trnddc03... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:wMudnVlpAJ2_ADXanZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >I never said I was a pivotal figure. I did tell you I was part of a > >> >small > >> > group that met with then Mayor Street and COP Sylvester. > >> > >> Key word: "small" > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 For people like you who accept things and quit. No. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:6X6qj.17503$hF2.12476@trnddc02... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:r6SdnR_GpsFMazXanZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Less guns in the hand of criminals. > > > > Your problem??? > > How you are going to accomplish that goal. So far, you haven't produced > anything that has even a slight chance of accomplishing any part of that > goal. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:a36qj.30676$xE.19534@trnddc01... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:r7udnRsrn41PADXanZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > If I can now buy 120, but it gets changed to 1, that changes > >> > nothing???? > >> > >> So what is it about this law that suddenly makes you start obeying the > >> law???? > >> > >> I mean you ignored federal felonies before that carry serious jail time. > > So > >> explain to me why this law is suddenly going to be obeyed? > >> > >> > >> > > >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> > news:Xns9A3B60905EABDSandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> news:DqidnWVjs4nrPjranZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> > >> >> > Let's see, I sell 120 guns to illegal buyers. > >> >> > > >> >> > Now I can only sell one. > >> >> > >> >> Since that is already an illegal activity, one gun a month doesn't > > change > >> >> anything, you moron. > >> >> > >> >> > You investing????? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:s3Npj.84358$ds2.38614@trnddc05... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:v-SdnYIoNbMQBzranZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> > Do the math and get back to me. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Ok, You engage in 120 federal felonies every month. The state > >> >> >> passes > > a > >> >> > minor > >> >> >> law and suddenly you change your ways, seek God, and now only > >> >> >> commit > > 2 > >> >> >> federal felonies each month. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Right, and pigs fly. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> > >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest Magus Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 robw wrote: > I could give a rat's ass about your position. > You're right, your mind can't be changed, and you give a rat's ass about another's position. That about sum it up? > > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > news:nw6qj.76746$N67.34695@bignews5.bellsouth.net... >> robw wrote: >>> You're right. >>> >>> Still not changing my mind and not trying to change yours. >>> >> Ah, but do you actually know what my position is? Specially since I >> haven't advocated any position, all I've done is try to educate you with >> some factual information. >> >>> feel better? >>> >>> Quote
Guest Scout Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message news:DvSdna4sH9ouYTXanZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Do you live in my state? I don't live in the state of denial as you do. > It's a yes or no question. > > If it makes you feel better to aim a gun at me while you answer a simple > question I'm fine with that. Why should I answer? You refuse to answer my questions. > I really don't think the bullet will go from monitor to monitor. > > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > news:RI6qj.90973$ds2.66346@trnddc05... >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:zd-dnd4DAMRJcjXanZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@comcast.com... >> > I'm not trying to convince you. (unless you live in Pa.) >> >> If you can't convince anyone then you've lost. >> >> > >> > I could care less about you. >> > This is not about changing your mind, once again, unless you live in >> > Pa. >> > >> > Do you live in our state? >> >> Whereever I want. >> >> > >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message >> > news:k66qj.95925$U12.62401@trnddc06... >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> news:zZCdnUk6mcdfCzXanZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> > We believe it will help immensely. >> >> >> >> I do believe that you believe this, but somehow your belief just isn't >> >> convincing. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in >> >> > message >> >> > news:Xns9A3B629F93A84Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> >> >> news:3PadnYErT4u69TXanZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> >> >> >> >> > And we want to limit those buys. >> >> >> >> >> >> Then put the guys in jail like Lou. Passing one gun a month won't > do >> > it. >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > message >> >> >> > news:ZpOpj.6633$qI.4194@trnddc03... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news:Te-dnXVI-pRyPzranZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> >> > There is no such thing as legal buyers selling to >> >> >> >> > criminals???? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Nope, it's a crime. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Why don't you ask Lou's Pawnshop in Philly. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yea, and I note he's in jail. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Get back to me, won't ya'??? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't have to get back to you. It's a federal crime to engage in >> > staw >> >> >> > sales, >> >> >> >> or to purchase a gun with the intent of transfering it to a >> >> >> >> prohibited person. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hence there are no legal buyers of guns for sell to criminals. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in >> >> >> >> > message news:T0Npj.6613$qI.164@trnddc03... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >> >> news:m-Gdna1FPsD7BDranZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> >> >> > The one gun question..... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Let's see..... I'm a legal buyer who sells the guns to >> >> >> >> >> > criminals. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sorry, but there is no such thing. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Thugs, as you all so "with it" morons like to refer it to. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > If I'm buying 30 guns a month and selling them at 30 bucks > I'm >> >> >> >> >> > making >> >> >> >> > 900 >> >> >> >> >> > bucks a month. >> >> >> >> >> > (you following this?) >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > If I can only buy one handgun a month my profits kinda go >> >> >> >> >> > down. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I see, so you are willing to engage in federal crimes which > for >> >> >> >> >> each purchase/sale carries a mandatory minimum of 10 years in >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> federal >> >> >> > pen, >> >> >> >> >> and you think some piddly ass state statute is suddenly going > to >> >> >> >> >> matter to >> >> >> >> >> you? I thought you were a criminal who didn't care about the >> >> >> >> >> law? >> >> >> >> >> So >> >> >> > why >> >> >> >> > are >> >> >> >> >> you suggesting that you would suddenly start obeying this >> >> >> >> >> particular >> >> >> > law >> >> >> >> >> when you've already ignored all the others. For that matter > why >> >> >> >> >> would >> >> >> > any >> >> >> >> >> other criminal? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> >> >> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Not in Philly. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:JX6qj.17888$qI.12262@trnddc03... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:f-6dnVnuO_yiajXanZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Unless you live in Pa. I could care less what you think. > > > > I'm responding to you because I don't back down from what I believe. > > > > Not trying to change your mind. > > > > Have all the guns you want. > > Fine, then I accept your admission that one should be allowed to buy more > than one handgun a month. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:256qj.95924$U12.3479@trnddc06... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:jfOdnS2sJopbAzXanZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > Now let's see.........how can we reduce gun violence? > >> > > >> > Ah, maybe reduce illegal gun sales?? > >> > >> robw - "I do believe, I do believe, I do believe......" > >> > >> Try again when you have some FACTS. > >> > >> > >> > >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> > news:Xns9A3B61AE56CB1Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> news:5v-dnbAj0d7tHDranZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> > >> >> > The Anti-Violence Partnership of Philadelphia. > >> >> > > >> >> > We've (my wife and I) also have assisted some local church groups in > >> >> > neighborhoods where gun violence has been a problem. > >> >> > > >> >> > Problem? > >> >> > >> >> Not with trying to assist against gun violence. Of course, you should > >> >> better understand what is reality. Hopefully, your wife has the > >> >> brains > >> >> in the family, because you keep proving you don't. > >> >> > >> >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > >> >> > news:47a77f5b$0$25048$607ed4bc@cv.net... > >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I belong to no anti-gun groups. > >> >> >> > I do belong to a grass roots group that is trying to stop the > >> >> >> > murders in Philly. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Name it > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> > >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Come to Philly, Cuz. you can meet her. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:4Y6qj.17504$hF2.14130@trnddc02... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:ds6dneNL2Lw6ajXanZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@comcast.com... > > I've got a great lady, we're activists, we make nice money and life is > > great. > > How often do you have to blow her back up? > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:376qj.17874$qI.13199@trnddc03... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:KvGdnWEUpKdHAjXanZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > If you remember I outlasted all you cats last time a similar thread > >> > appeared > >> > here. > >> > > >> > Nothing has changed. > >> > >> Amen, your stupidity just goes on, and on and on........ > >> > >> > >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> > news:Xns9A3B63B7057D0Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> news:WNydne8sVKMELzranZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> > >> >> > I don't waver, > >> >> > >> >> Neither does a rock and you are both showing the same open mindedness. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > >> >> > news:47a7a739$0$25040$607ed4bc@cv.net... > >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The proposal wouldn't have effected collectors. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Your next point ? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> What is your "proposal" again? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Oh yeah..eleminate/Disinvent all guns. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> > >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest Scout Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message news:ipqdnXiO0qZmYTXanZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > Lou's Pawn Shop. Yep, and we note that criminals in Philly STILL have just as many guns as ever. Seems reducing the supply didn't change the sitatution any where the criminals are concerned or you wouldn't be asking for even more new laws to address crime you can't even enforce NOW > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > news:Xd6qj.95926$U12.1719@trnddc06... >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:aeSdnb7iWriIQjXanZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> > Did you see the word "limit" when you responded???? >> > >> > Less guns to sell mean less guns on the street. >> >> Nice assertion but it's like saying that if I dip a cup of water out of a >> pond instead of a lake I will have less water in my cup. The numbers of > guns >> on are such a small percentage of the total, you can't possibly reduce >> the >> ownership of guns enough to have any noticable impact. >> >> However, as noted before, facts don't have much to do with your beliefs. >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message >> > news:Nz4qj.17487$hF2.10330@trnddc02... >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> news:3PadnYErT4u69TXanZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> > And we want to limit those buys. >> >> >> >> That's nice, but what I'm attempting to get you to do is explain > exactly >> > HOW >> >> you are going to stop illegal sales. So far your only 'suggestion' was > to >> >> limit everyone in the vain hope that the criminals would comply with > the >> >> law, though they have ignored all the others that make what they are >> >> doing >> >> illegal. >> >> >> >> So far you have shown me nothing more than tapping your heels together >> >> and >> >> wishing for things to change. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message >> >> > news:ZpOpj.6633$qI.4194@trnddc03... >> >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> news:Te-dnXVI-pRyPzranZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> > There is no such thing as legal buyers selling to criminals???? >> >> >> >> >> >> Nope, it's a crime. >> >> >> >> >> >> > Why don't you ask Lou's Pawnshop in Philly. >> >> >> >> >> >> Yea, and I note he's in jail. >> >> >> >> >> >> > Get back to me, won't ya'??? >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't have to get back to you. It's a federal crime to engage in > staw >> >> > sales, >> >> >> or to purchase a gun with the intent of transfering it to a > prohibited >> >> >> person. >> >> >> >> >> >> Hence there are no legal buyers of guns for sell to criminals. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > message >> >> >> > news:T0Npj.6613$qI.164@trnddc03... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news:m-Gdna1FPsD7BDranZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> >> > The one gun question..... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Let's see..... I'm a legal buyer who sells the guns to > criminals. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sorry, but there is no such thing. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Thugs, as you all so "with it" morons like to refer it to. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > If I'm buying 30 guns a month and selling them at 30 bucks I'm >> >> >> >> > making >> >> >> > 900 >> >> >> >> > bucks a month. >> >> >> >> > (you following this?) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > If I can only buy one handgun a month my profits kinda go >> >> >> >> > down. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I see, so you are willing to engage in federal crimes which for >> >> >> >> each >> >> >> >> purchase/sale carries a mandatory minimum of 10 years in the >> >> >> >> federal >> >> > pen, >> >> >> >> and you think some piddly ass state statute is suddenly going to >> >> >> >> matter >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> you? I thought you were a criminal who didn't care about the >> >> >> >> law? >> >> >> >> So >> >> > why >> >> >> > are >> >> >> >> you suggesting that you would suddenly start obeying this >> >> >> >> particular >> >> > law >> >> >> >> when you've already ignored all the others. For that matter why >> > would >> >> > any >> >> >> >> other criminal? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > Quote
Guest Scout Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message news:GaSdnZEZhsSjYDXanZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@comcast.com... > And people like you quit when things get tough. Yea, keep trying to hold back the tide, I'm sure the ocean is going to care that you're trying. > > We don't need you. Thank you, I'm happy that I'm not a part of advocating a police state with tyranny and oppression for all. After all, you did say by any means necessary, right? > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > news:re6qj.95927$U12.20296@trnddc06... >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:QfqdnR1dMdTeQjXanZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> > No, my assertion is exactly what myself, and many others of us in >> > Philly >> > are >> > going to work towards. >> >> Some people till windmills. >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message >> > news:gA4qj.10985$M71.7278@trnddc08... >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> news:AuqdnS8LZIym9TXanZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> > Not at all. >> >> >> >> Then your assertion is bullshit. >> >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message >> >> > news:PqOpj.84243$U12.68735@trnddc06... >> >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> news:hr6dnQc-pL2GPjranZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> > Talk to Lou's Pawn Shop and get back to me. >> >> >> >> >> >> So it's your contention that Lou's Pawn Shop represents every > resident >> > of >> >> >> Philly? >> >> >> >> >> >> How did all those people manage to fit into that little bitty >> >> >> building? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > message >> >> >> > news:I1Npj.46139$K%.27628@trnddc04... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news:dpKdnbObuusmBDranZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> >> > No. In Philly the people buying the guns are selling them to > the >> >> >> >> > criminals. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Proof please that eveyone who buys a gun in Philly is engaged in >> > straw >> >> >> >> sales. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > you don't live in a major city, do you? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I have, and still didnt' see what you blindly assert. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in >> > message >> >> >> >> > news:U9Mpj.19896$Ou1.19084@trnddc07... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >> >> news:aPGdnX5Qx_BHHDranZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> >> >> > Well, let's see....... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them > to >> >> > people >> >> >> >> >> > who >> >> >> >> >> > are >> >> >> >> >> > not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able > to >> >> >> >> >> > buy >> >> >> > one >> >> >> >> > gun >> >> >> >> >> > a >> >> >> >> >> > month? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Then you have eliminated a major indicator to the ATF that an >> >> >> >> > investigation >> >> >> >> >> may be called for. Further, as occured here, what simply >> >> >> >> >> happened >> >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> > you >> >> >> >> > had >> >> >> >> >> fleets of people buying guns turning them over to this > middleman >> >> >> >> >> who >> >> >> > then >> >> >> >> >> sold them to the criminals. End result as far as criminal > access >> > to >> >> >> > guns? >> >> >> >> >> Zip, Nada, Nothing, Zilch, Zero. The ATF, however, now find >> >> >> >> >> it > a >> >> >> >> >> lot >> >> >> >> > harder >> >> >> >> >> to indentify and track such strawsales since they now >> >> >> >> >> generate >> >> >> >> >> no >> >> >> > special >> >> >> >> >> paperwork as occured before. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I will simply note that your 'solution' involves restricting >> > legal >> >> >> > guns. >> >> >> >> >> Something you said you weren't interested in. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >> >> > news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net... >> >> >> >> >> >> robw wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it > from >> > the >> >> >> >> > dealer. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun > Reporting >> >> >> > program. >> >> >> >> >> >> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any >> >> > "multiple >> >> >> >> >> >> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five >> >> >> >> >> >> consecutive >> >> >> >> >> >> business days. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > And before you even start, this would not include people >> > with >> >> >> >> >> > collector's >> >> >> >> >> >> > licenses. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's >> >> >> >> >> >> license"? >> >> >> >> >> >> Or >> >> >> >> >> >> would this be a new requirement? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >> >> >> > news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> robw wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Straw buys are currently illegal. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> How do you propose to eliminate them? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> robw wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> yourself >> >> > out. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> You? >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished? >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > Quote
Guest Scout Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message news:SdKdnSuZlekDYzXanZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com... > So you gave up? Why should i continue with something proven to be a failure? Stupidity? Like yours? > My Pops was a conservative at one time and we didn't always agree, but at > least he instilled in me to do what I believe. Too bad he couldn't teach you how to think and to have good reasons to support your beliefs, but then liberals are usually driven by emotions and beliefs rather than facts and objective views of reality. > And while we were never > really adversaries (the man had too much love of his kids to be petty) we > became the best of friends because I did stand up. I'm glad that he could love you despite your stupidity and pig headedness to do whatever you wanted no matter how much the facts said you were wrong. > > Apparently your father taught you that when things go wrong just stick > your > ass up so the cock gets a good angle. nope, he taught me how to think, to consider, to be objective, to be able to realize obtainabled goals as opposed to pie in the sky idealism. > People like you disgust me. Yea, we don't run on emotion and empty beliefs. > Not because of your views but because you don't fight for what you believe > in. Really? Philly was able to enact that law and have it stand up? oh, that's right, we won that fight. > Really man, do you shave my memory? Because you can't remember what you say from one day to the next. > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > news:Ef6qj.30678$xE.6572@trnddc01... >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:B8KdnU3p2InhQjXanZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@comcast.com... >> > Ah, but if you shut off the supply at some point the amount of guns is >> > lessened. >> >> Only if you can manage to stop the production of all guns, and then only >> until criminals take over the process of manufacturing them. >> >> I mean we have tried doing this with drugs, and criminals still have all > the >> drugs they want. >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message >> > news:XA4qj.49753$K%.9851@trnddc04... >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> news:cvydnWGilun59TXanZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> > Where am I going to get the guns if I'm limited to one a month? >> >> >> >> ah....other criminals? >> >> >> >> Real criminals have done so. I would hate to think you are stupidier > than >> > a >> >> criminal. >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message >> >> > news:CrOpj.84289$U12.53993@trnddc06... >> >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> news:DqidnWVjs4nrPjranZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> > Let's see, I sell 120 guns to illegal buyers. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Now I can only sell one. >> >> >> >> >> >> Really? You're going to suddenly start obeying the law you have >> >> >> been >> >> >> ignoring because I pass a new law? >> >> >> >> >> >> You must be a rather stupid criminal. >> >> >> >> >> >> > You investing????? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > message >> >> >> > news:s3Npj.84358$ds2.38614@trnddc05... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news:v-SdnYIoNbMQBzranZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> >> > Do the math and get back to me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ok, You engage in 120 federal felonies every month. The state >> >> >> >> passes >> > a >> >> >> > minor >> >> >> >> law and suddenly you change your ways, seek God, and now only >> >> >> >> commit >> > 2 >> >> >> >> federal felonies each month. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Right, and pigs fly. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > Quote
Guest Scout Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message news:65CdnV8PZ8eUYjXanZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > It's not what you said. Actually it is, but your inability to follow a thread and the context of your own scenerio isn't my fault. > I guess "Cute is what we aim for" > > And you won't get that reference. > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > news:Zg6qj.17879$qI.1962@trnddc03... >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:s7WdndFQ4qUzQjXanZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >I never said I would sell to criminals. >> > >> > I was speaking in hypothetical terms. >> >> So, I was speaking of you as a hypothetical criminal in your hypothetical >> scenario. Seems you can't keep your fantasy seperated from your reality. >> >> >Are you that f cking stupid? >> >> You certainly are. >> >> >> > >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message >> > news:tB4qj.28494$xE.18622@trnddc01... >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> news:vY6dnTzhU-Lt9TXanZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> > When? >> >> >> >> When you said you would sell them to criminals. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message >> >> > news:MrOpj.84299$U12.34469@trnddc06... >> >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> news:UbednWtJ0rcXPjranZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> > Did I say I was a criminal??? >> >> >> >> >> >> Yes. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > message >> >> >> > news:_5Npj.46140$K%.45823@trnddc04... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news:Rc-dnZ16iIVfBzranZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> >> > Where have I ever said I was a criminal? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "sell them to criminals" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in >> > message >> >> >> >> > news:ClMpj.6414$qI.4566@trnddc03... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >> >> news:b9mdnbZRr8VmGjranZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> >> >> > If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to >> >> > criminals.....and >> >> >> > now >> >> >> >> > I >> >> >> >> >> > can only buy one gun a month... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sorry, but how exactly does this law mean you can only buy 1 > gun >> > a >> >> >> > month? >> >> >> >> > I >> >> >> >> >> thought you were a criminal and not constrained to obeying >> >> >> >> >> the >> > law, >> >> > or >> >> >> >> >> did >> >> >> >> > I >> >> >> >> >> misunderstand you? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >> >> > news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net... >> >> >> >> >> >> RD (The Sandman) wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9 >> >> >> >> >> >> > _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > And will eliminate straw purchases....how???? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It won't. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the > identical >> >> >> >> >> >> question, >> >> >> >> >> >> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and >> > sells >> >> >> > them >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> >> >> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person >> > only >> >> >> > being >> >> >> >> >> >> able to buy one gun a month?" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys". >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Do you live in Pa. It's real easy.......yes or no. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:NP7qj.30697$xE.25404@trnddc01... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:DvSdna4sH9ouYTXanZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Do you live in my state? > > I don't live in the state of denial as you do. > > > It's a yes or no question. > > > > If it makes you feel better to aim a gun at me while you answer a simple > > question I'm fine with that. > > Why should I answer? You refuse to answer my questions. > > > I really don't think the bullet will go from monitor to monitor. > > > > > > > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:RI6qj.90973$ds2.66346@trnddc05... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:zd-dnd4DAMRJcjXanZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > I'm not trying to convince you. (unless you live in Pa.) > >> > >> If you can't convince anyone then you've lost. > >> > >> > > >> > I could care less about you. > >> > This is not about changing your mind, once again, unless you live in > >> > Pa. > >> > > >> > Do you live in our state? > >> > >> Whereever I want. > >> > >> > > >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> > news:k66qj.95925$U12.62401@trnddc06... > >> >> > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> news:zZCdnUk6mcdfCzXanZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> > We believe it will help immensely. > >> >> > >> >> I do believe that you believe this, but somehow your belief just isn't > >> >> convincing. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> > message > >> >> > news:Xns9A3B629F93A84Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> >> news:3PadnYErT4u69TXanZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > And we want to limit those buys. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Then put the guys in jail like Lou. Passing one gun a month won't > > do > >> > it. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > > message > >> >> >> > news:ZpOpj.6633$qI.4194@trnddc03... > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> >> news:Te-dnXVI-pRyPzranZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> >> > There is no such thing as legal buyers selling to > >> >> >> >> > criminals???? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Nope, it's a crime. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Why don't you ask Lou's Pawnshop in Philly. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Yea, and I note he's in jail. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Get back to me, won't ya'??? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Don't have to get back to you. It's a federal crime to engage in > >> > staw > >> >> >> > sales, > >> >> >> >> or to purchase a gun with the intent of transfering it to a > >> >> >> >> prohibited person. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Hence there are no legal buyers of guns for sell to criminals. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > >> >> >> >> > message news:T0Npj.6613$qI.164@trnddc03... > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> >> >> news:m-Gdna1FPsD7BDranZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> >> >> > The one gun question..... > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > Let's see..... I'm a legal buyer who sells the guns to > >> >> >> >> >> > criminals. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Sorry, but there is no such thing. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > Thugs, as you all so "with it" morons like to refer it to. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > If I'm buying 30 guns a month and selling them at 30 bucks > > I'm > >> >> >> >> >> > making > >> >> >> >> > 900 > >> >> >> >> >> > bucks a month. > >> >> >> >> >> > (you following this?) > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > If I can only buy one handgun a month my profits kinda go > >> >> >> >> >> > down. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I see, so you are willing to engage in federal crimes which > > for > >> >> >> >> >> each purchase/sale carries a mandatory minimum of 10 years in > >> >> >> >> >> the > >> >> >> >> >> federal > >> >> >> > pen, > >> >> >> >> >> and you think some piddly ass state statute is suddenly going > > to > >> >> >> >> >> matter to > >> >> >> >> >> you? I thought you were a criminal who didn't care about the > >> >> >> >> >> law? > >> >> >> >> >> So > >> >> >> > why > >> >> >> >> > are > >> >> >> >> >> you suggesting that you would suddenly start obeying this > >> >> >> >> >> particular > >> >> >> > law > >> >> >> >> >> when you've already ignored all the others. For that matter > > why > >> >> >> >> >> would > >> >> >> > any > >> >> >> >> >> other criminal? > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> >> > >> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 It was one shop. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:%Q7qj.30698$xE.28860@trnddc01... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:ipqdnXiO0qZmYTXanZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Lou's Pawn Shop. > > Yep, and we note that criminals in Philly STILL have just as many guns as > ever. Seems reducing the supply didn't change the sitatution any where the > criminals are concerned or you wouldn't be asking for even more new laws to > address crime you can't even enforce NOW > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:Xd6qj.95926$U12.1719@trnddc06... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:aeSdnb7iWriIQjXanZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > Did you see the word "limit" when you responded???? > >> > > >> > Less guns to sell mean less guns on the street. > >> > >> Nice assertion but it's like saying that if I dip a cup of water out of a > >> pond instead of a lake I will have less water in my cup. The numbers of > > guns > >> on are such a small percentage of the total, you can't possibly reduce > >> the > >> ownership of guns enough to have any noticable impact. > >> > >> However, as noted before, facts don't have much to do with your beliefs. > >> > >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> > news:Nz4qj.17487$hF2.10330@trnddc02... > >> >> > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> news:3PadnYErT4u69TXanZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> > And we want to limit those buys. > >> >> > >> >> That's nice, but what I'm attempting to get you to do is explain > > exactly > >> > HOW > >> >> you are going to stop illegal sales. So far your only 'suggestion' was > > to > >> >> limit everyone in the vain hope that the criminals would comply with > > the > >> >> law, though they have ignored all the others that make what they are > >> >> doing > >> >> illegal. > >> >> > >> >> So far you have shown me nothing more than tapping your heels together > >> >> and > >> >> wishing for things to change. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:ZpOpj.6633$qI.4194@trnddc03... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:Te-dnXVI-pRyPzranZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> > There is no such thing as legal buyers selling to criminals???? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Nope, it's a crime. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Why don't you ask Lou's Pawnshop in Philly. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Yea, and I note he's in jail. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Get back to me, won't ya'??? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Don't have to get back to you. It's a federal crime to engage in > > staw > >> >> > sales, > >> >> >> or to purchase a gun with the intent of transfering it to a > > prohibited > >> >> >> person. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Hence there are no legal buyers of guns for sell to criminals. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > > message > >> >> >> > news:T0Npj.6613$qI.164@trnddc03... > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> >> news:m-Gdna1FPsD7BDranZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> >> >> > The one gun question..... > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Let's see..... I'm a legal buyer who sells the guns to > > criminals. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Sorry, but there is no such thing. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Thugs, as you all so "with it" morons like to refer it to. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > If I'm buying 30 guns a month and selling them at 30 bucks I'm > >> >> >> >> > making > >> >> >> > 900 > >> >> >> >> > bucks a month. > >> >> >> >> > (you following this?) > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > If I can only buy one handgun a month my profits kinda go > >> >> >> >> > down. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I see, so you are willing to engage in federal crimes which for > >> >> >> >> each > >> >> >> >> purchase/sale carries a mandatory minimum of 10 years in the > >> >> >> >> federal > >> >> > pen, > >> >> >> >> and you think some piddly ass state statute is suddenly going to > >> >> >> >> matter > >> >> >> >> to > >> >> >> >> you? I thought you were a criminal who didn't care about the > >> >> >> >> law? > >> >> >> >> So > >> >> > why > >> >> >> > are > >> >> >> >> you suggesting that you would suddenly start obeying this > >> >> >> >> particular > >> >> > law > >> >> >> >> when you've already ignored all the others. For that matter why > >> > would > >> >> > any > >> >> >> >> other criminal? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest Scout Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message news:HI6dnZZG69TNYjXanZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > If you're talking about not giving up you win the cookie. Actually, you are pretty well on your way to by bit bucket. Once the entertainment value of your utter studitity wears off, there is where you will go. > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > news:cI6qj.17883$qI.7233@trnddc03... >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:INSdnQ6zHr5gcjXanZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@comcast.com... >> > It was a hypothetical, you moron. >> >> as was your being a criminal. >> >> Yea, you certainly have a hard time with that line between your fantasies >> and reality. >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message >> > news:046qj.17497$hF2.876@trnddc02... >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> news:Ha6dnV9N19hkCzXanZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> > So when did I say I was a criminal? >> >> >> >> When you said you would sell guns to criminals. >> >> >> >> > >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in >> >> > message >> >> > news:Xns9A3B6148181A7Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> >> >> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in >> >> >> news:MrOpj.84299$U12.34469@trnddc06: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> > news:UbednWtJ0rcXPjranZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> >> Did I say I was a criminal??? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Yes. >> >> >> >> >> >> Scout, if it took an IQ of 100 to light the City of Philadelphia, > this >> >> >> guy would have trouble with a penlite. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in >> >> >> >> message >> >> >> >> news:_5Npj.46140$K%.45823@trnddc04... >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >>> news:Rc-dnZ16iIVfBzranZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> >>> > Where have I ever said I was a criminal? >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> "sell them to criminals" >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in >> >> >> >>> > message news:ClMpj.6414$qI.4566@trnddc03... >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >>> >> news:b9mdnbZRr8VmGjranZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> >>> >> > If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to >> >> >> >>> >> > criminals.....and >> >> >> >> now >> >> >> >>> > I >> >> >> >>> >> > can only buy one gun a month... >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Sorry, but how exactly does this law mean you can only buy 1 >> >> >> >>> >> gun >> >> >> >>> >> a >> >> >> >> month? >> >> >> >>> > I >> >> >> >>> >> thought you were a criminal and not constrained to obeying > the >> >> >> >>> >> law, or did >> >> >> >>> > I >> >> >> >>> >> misunderstand you? >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >>> >> > news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net... >> >> >> >>> >> >> RD (The Sandman) wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9 >> >> >> >>> >> >> > _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> > And will eliminate straw purchases....how???? >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> It won't. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the >> >> >> >>> >> >> identical >> >> >> >>> >> >> question, >> >> >> >>> >> >> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month >> >> >> >>> >> >> and >> >> >> >>> >> >> sells >> >> >> >> them >> >> >> >>> > to >> >> >> >>> >> >> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same >> >> >> >>> >> >> person >> >> >> >>> >> >> only >> >> >> >> being >> >> >> >>> >> >> able to buy one gun a month?" >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys". >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> >> >> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > Quote
Guest Scout Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message news:apydnUvMp91YYjXanZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > So you're qualified to be a mayor of a major city or a chief of police??? Yes. > Where do you serve??? Where ever i'm elected. > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > news:gk6qj.90970$ds2.1193@trnddc05... >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:IeadnZkVaoO7fTXanZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@comcast.com... >> > Ah, so you know more than the previous and current administration, the >> > previous and current police chief, and the desires of the good people > here >> > in Philly?? >> >> "we do believe, we do believe, we do believe...." >> >> >> But you know what? There still isn't a Tinker Bell. >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message >> > news:cS4qj.49758$K%.19823@trnddc04... >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> news:4fSdnY6OY5cACjXanZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> > So you're the kind of person that just accepts the conditions....or > are >> >> > you >> >> > the kind that wants someone else to clean up the mess. >> >> >> >> You are the sort that can't differentiate between your desires and >> > reality. >> >> What you fantasize about and what is realistic. There is absolutely >> > nothing >> >> special about the conditions in Philly that is at all likely to alter > the >> >> observed results of your "suggestion". >> >> >> >> >> >> > People like you sicken me. >> >> >> >> Yea, I can see how people rooted in reality really screws up your >> > delusional >> >> fantasies. >> >> >> >> >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in >> >> > message >> >> > news:Xns9A3B5EC75BDCFSandman@216.196.97.136... >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> >> >> news:5IOdna8ugato9TXanZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> >> >> >> >> > It's never been tried in Philly. >> >> >> >> >> >> Does gravity act differently in Philly than elsewere? >> >> >> >> >> >> > But you can relax. Harrisburg won't let Philly institute it's own >> > laws >> >> >> > and when the western part of the state you're not going to get a >> >> >> > statewide law passed. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Feel better? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in > message >> >> >> > news:GuOpj.46148$K%.1807@trnddc04... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news:P8mdnbqOMKAfOTranZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> >> > So give us a chance. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's already been tried time and time and time again. It has > NEVER >> >> >> >> worked. So why should I allow you to fuck people over to try yet >> >> >> >> again. Show me >> >> >> > that >> >> >> >> you have any reasonable proof of producing a different result. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in >> >> >> >> > message news:CcMpj.17266$hF2.4419@trnddc02... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> >> >> >> news:DeSdnZYLqrsoGTranZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> >> >> > One a month sales would help hinder the supply???? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> We've had that for quite sometime, and oddly enough we have > seen >> >> >> >> >> no >> >> >> >> > decline >> >> >> >> >> in the criminal access to illegal guns. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote > in >> >> >> >> >> > message news:Xns9A3A912177DC4Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> >> >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> >> >> >> >> >> news:pbmdnWB7jeED7TranZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Eliminating straw buys would be a great start. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yep, and they are already illegal. Now what?? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> >> >> >> >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> >> >> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > Quote
Guest Scout Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message news:39udnd8JZ89znDTanZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com... > Why? Why not. > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > news:vz6qj.20074$Ou1.12342@trnddc07... >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:ku6dnST8YdkFdjXanZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> > You o.k. with one handgun purchase a month? >> >> No. >> >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message >> > news:YL5qj.95915$U12.70805@trnddc06... >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> news:Qv-dnQlsmdH29zXanZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> > No, it's true in far too many cases. I've been in these threads > before >> > and >> >> > there's always a couple people who start the "It's my right. I want > to >> > buy >> >> > all the guns I want" blah blah >> >> > >> >> > Perhaps not you, but far too many of your ilk feel exactly that way. >> >> > Screw the crime problem, have to have those guns. >> >> >> >> How is his wanting guns going to alter the crime problem? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message >> >> > news:47a7b6a4$0$25018$607ed4bc@cv.net... >> >> >> robw, the top post retard wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Thank you, you asshole because if the anti-gun ever does win it > will >> > be >> >> >> > because of morons like you. >> >> >> > "I want!" >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Yeah, meanwhile,the NRA tells us oh so how much they want >> >> >> > responsible >> >> > gun >> >> >> > owners. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > You;re liars. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > You want to be able to buy guns and screw the consequences. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > You;re such a f cing fraud. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for PROVING just how stupid you have become. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > Quote
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