Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:B6GdncNTZNKxyDfanZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@comcast.com: > Did you ever answer my question of what city you came from and where you > live now? Yes. > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3C97CD7FD23Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:VvmdnWl8dL1 >> _czTanZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> > Yes, I do. >> >> No, you don't. If you did, you would understand what Scout, I and >> others are trying to tell you. >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message >> > news:Xns9A3C6293E829Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> >> news:weadncOhw6bPaDXanZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> >> >> > Do you have any idea of the concept of Best Practices???? >> >> >> >> Do you have an idea of the concept of the black market or illegal >> market >> >> for guns? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:NbqdndjJyYLOyDfanZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com: > The law would hinder the supply. No, it wouldn't. It only addresses the legal supply not the illegal one. -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:E8OdnWBs4YKa5jfanZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com: > I don't belong to any gun control groups. > I belong to an organization that want to stop violence here. > > You bias is showing. You could give a rat's ass about any of the dead > or how they got that way. Your bias showed in the very next sentence. > Just don't f ck with your guns, right? > > > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > news:H1uqj.92335$L%6.34658@bignews3.bellsouth.net... >> robw wrote: >> > Harrisburg already stopped it. Too many western Pa. senators and >> > reps > that >> > are beholden to the gun lobby. >> > >> >> Why is it that when gun owners get together it's "The Gun Lobby", but >> when gun control groups get together it's a "grassroot" movement? >> >> > But you don't just quit. Funny things can happen. >> > >> > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> > news:l7oqj.61627$k27.20922@bignews2.bellsouth.net... >> >> robw wrote: >> >>> I said that....when? >> >>> >> >>> Here's the bottom line, I and those that feel the same as me are >> >>> going >> > to >> >>> push for this. >> >>> >> >>> Nothing you say will stop us. >> >>> >> >>> It's really that simple. >> >>> >> >>> And if you don't live in Philly, it will make not one difference >> >>> in > your >> >>> life. >> >>> >> >>> >> >> And when it doesn't pass due to state preemption your feelings >> >> will be hurt, again--just like the last time Philly tried similar >> >> stuff and got smacked down by the State Supreme Court. >> > >> > > > > -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:npGdnbeTleBzgzbanZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@comcast.com: > The tool kills. NO, it doesn't. It gets used for whatever the person holding wishes to use it for. The gun makes no decisions on its own. Kinda like you. > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > news:N5vqj.68190$Mu4.35629@bignews7.bellsouth.net... >> robw wrote: >> > I don't belong to any gun control groups. >> > I belong to an organization that want to stop violence here. >> > >> > You bias is showing. You could give a rat's ass about any of the >> > dead or > how >> > they got that way. >> > >> > Just don't f ck with your guns, right? >> > >> >> The gun is a tool, what is the underlying cause of the social ills? >> >> >> > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> > news:H1uqj.92335$L%6.34658@bignews3.bellsouth.net... >> >> robw wrote: >> >>> Harrisburg already stopped it. Too many western Pa. senators and >> >>> reps >> > that >> >>> are beholden to the gun lobby. >> >>> >> >> Why is it that when gun owners get together it's "The Gun Lobby", >> >> but when gun control groups get together it's a "grassroot" >> >> movement? >> >> >> >>> But you don't just quit. Funny things can happen. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> >>> news:l7oqj.61627$k27.20922@bignews2.bellsouth.net... >> >>>> robw wrote: >> >>>>> I said that....when? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Here's the bottom line, I and those that feel the same as me >> >>>>> are > going >> >>> to >> >>>>> push for this. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Nothing you say will stop us. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> It's really that simple. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> And if you don't live in Philly, it will make not one >> >>>>> difference in >> > your >> >>>>> life. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> And when it doesn't pass due to state preemption your feelings >> >>>> will > be >> >>>> hurt, again--just like the last time Philly tried similar stuff >> >>>> and > got >> >>>> smacked down by the State Supreme Court. >> >>> >> > >> > > > > -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:lcidnVUV7ucayjfanZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com: > The other side of the counter would only be able to buy one handgun a > month. ROFLMAO!!! You don't even know what one gun a month legislation addresses. Hint, it doesn't limit dealers to one gun a month. > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3C993D58E65Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> news:2rudndTQSP0gbjTanZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> > If you're a dealer who has been able to by x amount of guns from a >> dealer >> > and now that number is one....... >> >> But it isn't. If they were already breaking the law, passing one gun >> a month won't change that. >> >> FWIW, dealers buy guns from distributors not other dealers. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:eridnaaJrbTDxTfanZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com: > Never lived in a metropolitan city, have you? Only Miami, Chicago, Phoenix and LA. > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3C9B4516729Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> news:fc2dnS3OHZIsaDTanZ2dnUVZ_t- dnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> > You;re from where and lived where? >> >> Too numerous to list and as you have noted, you really don't care >> what I think anyway so why would you really be interested in where I >> have lived? The truth is that you aren't. So why ask? >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in >> > message news:Xns9A3C693C023BASandman@216.196.97.136... >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> >> news:f5idndmLHJASAjXanZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> >> >> > Name calling is a Philly thing. >> >> > An urban thing. >> >> > >> >> > I thought you knew about urban life??? >> >> >> >> Where I'm from and in places I have lived it can get you killed. >> >> >> >> -- >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest Wayne Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 I asked him point blank if that is what he was proposing (1 gun/mo/dealer), and was told to go read the previous postings. (Which is why I was asking the question.) Kinda like disscussions with "The Weasle". "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E5F6F04A13Sandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:lcidnVUV7ucayjfanZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> The other side of the counter would only be able to buy one handgun a >> month. > > ROFLMAO!!! You don't even know what one gun a month legislation > addresses. Hint, it doesn't limit dealers to one gun a month. > > >> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:Xns9A3C993D58E65Sandman@216.196.97.136... >>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >>> news:2rudndTQSP0gbjTanZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com: >>> >>> > If you're a dealer who has been able to by x amount of guns from a >>> dealer >>> > and now that number is one....... >>> >>> But it isn't. If they were already breaking the law, passing one gun >>> a month won't change that. >>> >>> FWIW, dealers buy guns from distributors not other dealers. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> RD (The Sandman) >>> >>> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >>> to terrorism is much, much worse >> >> >> > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest Magus Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 robw wrote: > No. > You should look up the definition of "strawman argument". > We see the pictures of grieving mothers in the papers....on our news. > I'm sure you do, and the situation sucks. However, you should be looking into the underlying causes. Why do the criminals think they can get away with it? Why do they think it's OK to behave the way they do? It's not the tool, you're trying to but a band-aide on an aneurysm. > Neither a strawman or holier than thou. > The fact it happens isn't the strawman, it's the way you introduce and use it that makes it a strawman argument. > Women who lost kids, husbands, brothers who were guilty of nothing more than > coming out of a store and getting caught by a stray bullet. > > > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > news:ZRPqj.62911$k27.727@bignews2.bellsouth.net... >> robw wrote: >>> You ever hear of a mother losing her kid and blowing the whole thing > off? >> Again, you're introducing a strawman. >> >>> Idiot. >>> >> And displaying the "holier than thou" mindset. >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >>> news:jAOqj.67850$vt2.19370@bignews8.bellsouth.net... >>>> robw wrote: >>>>> There's women in this town that would rip your head off and shit down >>> your >>>>> neck for a comment like that. >>>>> >>>> Maybe that's some of Philly's problem, all the anger. >>>> >>>>> You are worthless. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:GwKqj.67726$vt2.58275@bignews8.bellsouth.net... >>>>>> robw wrote: >>>>>>> You want mothers to live in fear of their young kids getting shot > and >>>>> killed >>>>>>> in a crossfire? That's holier than thou??? >>>>>>> >>>>>> Strawman. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Moron. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Why the anger? >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:Q4vqj.68188$Mu4.53312@bignews7.bellsouth.net... >>>>>>>> robw wrote: >>>>>>>>> By not being able to buy as many guns as they want......??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> By holier than thou types dictating how the "less fortunate" must >>> live. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:2Ztqj.92331$L%6.73837@bignews3.bellsouth.net... >>>>>>>>>> robw wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> How would this law effect you? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It breaks my heart to see people being oppressed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Do you live in Philly? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:jXqqj.77415$N67.69781@bignews5.bellsouth.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Magus <nope@noway.net> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:l7oqj.61627$k27.20922@bignews2.bellsouth.net: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I said that....when? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the bottom line, I and those that feel the same as me >>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to push for this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing you say will stop us. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's really that simple. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And if you don't live in Philly, it will make not one >>> difference >>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when it doesn't pass due to state preemption your > feelings >>>>> will >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurt, again--just like the last time Philly tried similar > stuff >>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> got smacked down by the State Supreme Court. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, it was the same BS he is still pushing. He was in > here >>>>>>>>>>> spouting >>>>>>>>>>>>> about the same thing some time ago. Even used the same pawn >>> shop >>>>>>>>>>> (Lou's) >>>>>>>>>>>>> to try and make his point. Someday one would think he would >>>>>>>>>>>>> learn.....but then..... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I was here for that last bout of robw flu too. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 We're going to do what we need to do. If that doesn't suit you< I'd put that in the category of your problem not mine. "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message news:1_%qj.69837$k27.50885@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > robw wrote: > > No. > > > > You should look up the definition of "strawman argument". > > > We see the pictures of grieving mothers in the papers....on our news. > > > > I'm sure you do, and the situation sucks. However, you should be looking > into the underlying causes. Why do the criminals think they can get away > with it? Why do they think it's OK to behave the way they do? It's not > the tool, you're trying to but a band-aide on an aneurysm. > > > Neither a strawman or holier than thou. > > > > The fact it happens isn't the strawman, it's the way you introduce and > use it that makes it a strawman argument. > > > Women who lost kids, husbands, brothers who were guilty of nothing more than > > coming out of a store and getting caught by a stray bullet. > > > > > > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > > news:ZRPqj.62911$k27.727@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >> robw wrote: > >>> You ever hear of a mother losing her kid and blowing the whole thing > > off? > >> Again, you're introducing a strawman. > >> > >>> Idiot. > >>> > >> And displaying the "holier than thou" mindset. > >> > >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>> news:jAOqj.67850$vt2.19370@bignews8.bellsouth.net... > >>>> robw wrote: > >>>>> There's women in this town that would rip your head off and shit down > >>> your > >>>>> neck for a comment like that. > >>>>> > >>>> Maybe that's some of Philly's problem, all the anger. > >>>> > >>>>> You are worthless. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>>>> news:GwKqj.67726$vt2.58275@bignews8.bellsouth.net... > >>>>>> robw wrote: > >>>>>>> You want mothers to live in fear of their young kids getting shot > > and > >>>>> killed > >>>>>>> in a crossfire? That's holier than thou??? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Strawman. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Moron. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Why the anger? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>> news:Q4vqj.68188$Mu4.53312@bignews7.bellsouth.net... > >>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >>>>>>>>> By not being able to buy as many guns as they want......??? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> By holier than thou types dictating how the "less fortunate" must > >>> live. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>> news:2Ztqj.92331$L%6.73837@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >>>>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> How would this law effect you? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> It breaks my heart to see people being oppressed. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Do you live in Philly? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>> news:jXqqj.77415$N67.69781@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > >>>>>>>>>>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Magus <nope@noway.net> wrote in > >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:l7oqj.61627$k27.20922@bignews2.bellsouth.net: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I said that....when? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the bottom line, I and those that feel the same as me > >>> are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to push for this. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing you say will stop us. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's really that simple. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And if you don't live in Philly, it will make not one > >>> difference > >>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your life. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when it doesn't pass due to state preemption your > > feelings > >>>>> will > >>>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurt, again--just like the last time Philly tried similar > > stuff > >>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> got smacked down by the State Supreme Court. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, it was the same BS he is still pushing. He was in > > here > >>>>>>>>>>> spouting > >>>>>>>>>>>>> about the same thing some time ago. Even used the same pawn > >>> shop > >>>>>>>>>>> (Lou's) > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to try and make his point. Someday one would think he would > >>>>>>>>>>>>> learn.....but then..... > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I was here for that last bout of robw flu too. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Liar. "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E5D8397C68Sandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:veWdnRoh5_S95zfanZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > Be honest with me, what really bothers you about all this? > > > > Let me try a theory, you're one of these people that think if you have > > any gun limitation that's it going to balloon into all guns being > > outlawed. > > > > Same with Scout, Sandman, et al. > > > > Am I close? > > Nope. > > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Cool. "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E5D9C6F712Sandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:2sudnVobK4kygDbanZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > Thanks, that's all I needed to know from you. > > > > So, under those auspices, you don't agree with the Iraq "war"? > > That would be correct. > > > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 I see you used the word "regulation." Freud would love you. "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E5DC215C66Sandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:7dSdnVlHq4r5BjbanZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > Well I think that the Iraq "war" was based on lies and stupidity. > > Do you agree with it? If not, why do you propose regulation that is > based on lies and stupidity? > > > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > > news:7vKqj.67724$vt2.42037@bignews8.bellsouth.net... > >> robw wrote: > >> > Thanks, that's all I needed to know from you. > >> > > >> > So, under those auspices, you don't agree with the Iraq "war"? > >> > > >> > > >> > >> As I've stated before, I don't think the US was justified in > >> attacking Iraq. However, now that we're there we need to finish what > >> we started. > >> > >> But, that's a totally different situation from imposing 'one gun a > >> month' the law abiding. > >> > >> > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> > news:s3vqj.68186$Mu4.37317@bignews7.bellsouth.net... > >> >> robw wrote: > >> >>> Be honest with me, what really bothers you about all this? > >> >>> > >> >>> Let me try a theory, you're one of these people that think if you > >> >>> have > >> > any > >> >>> gun limitation that's it going to balloon into all guns being > > outlawed. > >> >>> > >> >>> Same with Scout, Sandman, et al. > >> >>> > >> >>> Am I close? > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> I don't agree with policy based on lies and stupidity. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 I read many essays on criminals and their relation to culture, etc. And while I'm reading people are getting killed in West Philly. Guns out of their hands first, correct the situation next. "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E5E0F2AA98Sandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:0rmdnbrQPdrFgzbanZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > While I thank you for your honesty, please don't be upset when I offer > > that you have no right being in a discussion concerning the safety of > > people. > > Bullshit. > > > You only care about the guns. > > So do you, apparently, since you have refused to read other means of > reducing criminal violence. > > > > We care about the people, which seeing as we live in > > Philly.....includes us. > > Then why haven't you read What works, what doesn't and what looks > promising? > > > "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:9ivqj.19497$hF2.1342@trnddc02... > >> Ok, I honestly think that it will balloon into all guns being > >> outlawed. Here in CA, we recently were betrayed by the Governator, > >> who signed a microstamping bill. So, buying guns will be legal in > >> CA. The only > > problem > >> will be that the ones that are approved for sale in CA, are guns that > > don't > >> exist. "One gun/month" was the "gateway drug" for this legislation. > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:veWdnRoh5_S95zfanZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > Be honest with me, what really bothers you about all this? > >> > > >> > Let me try a theory, you're one of these people that think if you > >> > have > > any > >> > gun limitation that's it going to balloon into all guns being > >> > outlawed. > >> > > >> > Same with Scout, Sandman, et al. > >> > > >> > Am I close? > >> > > >> > > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> > news:KVtqj.92329$L%6.65463@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> > I pointed out that I could give a rat's ass. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> So when advocating the 'one gun a month' law do you tell people > >> >> that it's based on a fairy tale? > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:fUqqj.77412$N67.48315@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >>> I respond to remind you that you don't have the game to change > >> >> >>> my > >> > mind. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> You can believe in any fairy tale you wish, I've just pointed > >> >> >> out > > that > >> >> >> what you believe is a fairy tale. > >> >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 You have friends over for dinner who have two kids. The adults are upstairs while the kids are down in the family room playing XBox. One of the kids picks up a pack of matches, lights one, freaks and tosses it resulting in the drapes catching fire. What would you do first? Put out the fire or explore and correct the behaviours? Thank you. "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E5E3F4B53ESandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:qKidndnK_bxxyTfanZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > Waking up and not having to read another story about a six year old kid > > getting caught in the crossfire of illegal guns will make me very > happy. > > Yes. > > It would make me happy too. So why not address the problem of the > criminal? > > > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:Xns9A3C99E765AEASandman@216.196.97.136... > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> news:mbWdnYEJ7JX5ZDTanZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> > >> > One handgun a month. > >> > >> Nice trite saying. The words themselves must really make you feel > >> comfortable. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> RD (The Sandman) > >> > >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > > > > > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 When? "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E5E51125DFSandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:B6GdncNTZNKxyDfanZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > Did you ever answer my question of what city you came from and where > you > > live now? > > Yes. > > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:Xns9A3C97CD7FD23Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:VvmdnWl8dL1 > >> _czTanZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> > >> > Yes, I do. > >> > >> No, you don't. If you did, you would understand what Scout, I and > >> others are trying to tell you. > >> > >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in > message > >> > news:Xns9A3C6293E829Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> news:weadncOhw6bPaDXanZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> > >> >> > Do you have any idea of the concept of Best Practices???? > >> >> > >> >> Do you have an idea of the concept of the black market or illegal > >> market > >> >> for guns? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> > >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> RD (The Sandman) > >> > >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > > > > > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Yes, it would. I've shown you repeatedly. "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E5E708F33Sandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:NbqdndjJyYLOyDfanZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > The law would hinder the supply. > > No, it wouldn't. It only addresses the legal supply not the illegal > one. > > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 If you can't handle your own truths, that's your problem. "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E5EA0C2F6CSandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:E8OdnWBs4YKa5jfanZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > I don't belong to any gun control groups. > > I belong to an organization that want to stop violence here. > > > > You bias is showing. You could give a rat's ass about any of the dead > > or how they got that way. > > Your bias showed in the very next sentence. > > > Just don't f ck with your guns, right? > > > > > > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > > news:H1uqj.92335$L%6.34658@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> robw wrote: > >> > Harrisburg already stopped it. Too many western Pa. senators and > >> > reps > > that > >> > are beholden to the gun lobby. > >> > > >> > >> Why is it that when gun owners get together it's "The Gun Lobby", but > >> when gun control groups get together it's a "grassroot" movement? > >> > >> > But you don't just quit. Funny things can happen. > >> > > >> > > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> > news:l7oqj.61627$k27.20922@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >> >> robw wrote: > >> >>> I said that....when? > >> >>> > >> >>> Here's the bottom line, I and those that feel the same as me are > >> >>> going > >> > to > >> >>> push for this. > >> >>> > >> >>> Nothing you say will stop us. > >> >>> > >> >>> It's really that simple. > >> >>> > >> >>> And if you don't live in Philly, it will make not one difference > >> >>> in > > your > >> >>> life. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> And when it doesn't pass due to state preemption your feelings > >> >> will be hurt, again--just like the last time Philly tried similar > >> >> stuff and got smacked down by the State Supreme Court. > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 So people get killed by feathers every day? "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E5ED4CF541Sandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:npGdnbeTleBzgzbanZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > The tool kills. > > NO, it doesn't. It gets used for whatever the person holding wishes to > use it for. The gun makes no decisions on its own. Kinda like you. > > > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > > news:N5vqj.68190$Mu4.35629@bignews7.bellsouth.net... > >> robw wrote: > >> > I don't belong to any gun control groups. > >> > I belong to an organization that want to stop violence here. > >> > > >> > You bias is showing. You could give a rat's ass about any of the > >> > dead or > > how > >> > they got that way. > >> > > >> > Just don't f ck with your guns, right? > >> > > >> > >> The gun is a tool, what is the underlying cause of the social ills? > >> > >> > >> > > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> > news:H1uqj.92335$L%6.34658@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> robw wrote: > >> >>> Harrisburg already stopped it. Too many western Pa. senators and > >> >>> reps > >> > that > >> >>> are beholden to the gun lobby. > >> >>> > >> >> Why is it that when gun owners get together it's "The Gun Lobby", > >> >> but when gun control groups get together it's a "grassroot" > >> >> movement? > >> >> > >> >>> But you don't just quit. Funny things can happen. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >>> news:l7oqj.61627$k27.20922@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >> >>>> robw wrote: > >> >>>>> I said that....when? > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Here's the bottom line, I and those that feel the same as me > >> >>>>> are > > going > >> >>> to > >> >>>>> push for this. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Nothing you say will stop us. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> It's really that simple. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> And if you don't live in Philly, it will make not one > >> >>>>> difference in > >> > your > >> >>>>> life. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> And when it doesn't pass due to state preemption your feelings > >> >>>> will > > be > >> >>>> hurt, again--just like the last time Philly tried similar stuff > >> >>>> and > > got > >> >>>> smacked down by the State Supreme Court. > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Hint: the Philly proposal would. "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E5F6F04A13Sandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:lcidnVUV7ucayjfanZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > The other side of the counter would only be able to buy one handgun a > > month. > > ROFLMAO!!! You don't even know what one gun a month legislation > addresses. Hint, it doesn't limit dealers to one gun a month. > > > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:Xns9A3C993D58E65Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> news:2rudndTQSP0gbjTanZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> > >> > If you're a dealer who has been able to by x amount of guns from a > >> dealer > >> > and now that number is one....... > >> > >> But it isn't. If they were already breaking the law, passing one gun > >> a month won't change that. > >> > >> FWIW, dealers buy guns from distributors not other dealers. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> RD (The Sandman) > >> > >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > > > > > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Perhaps you misunderstood. When I use the word dealer I'm not talking about the store owner. "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message news:LJ%qj.28$r03.0@trnddc08... > I asked him point blank if that is what he was proposing (1 gun/mo/dealer), > and was told to go read the previous postings. (Which is why I was asking > the question.) Kinda like disscussions with "The Weasle". > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3E5F6F04A13Sandman@216.196.97.136... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > > news:lcidnVUV7ucayjfanZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > >> The other side of the counter would only be able to buy one handgun a > >> month. > > > > ROFLMAO!!! You don't even know what one gun a month legislation > > addresses. Hint, it doesn't limit dealers to one gun a month. > > > > > >> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:Xns9A3C993D58E65Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >>> news:2rudndTQSP0gbjTanZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >>> > >>> > If you're a dealer who has been able to by x amount of guns from a > >>> dealer > >>> > and now that number is one....... > >>> > >>> But it isn't. If they were already breaking the law, passing one gun > >>> a month won't change that. > >>> > >>> FWIW, dealers buy guns from distributors not other dealers. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> RD (The Sandman) > >>> > >>> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >>> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > RD (The Sandman) > > > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > > to terrorism is much, much worse > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 In or near the cities? "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E5F96D48B4Sandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:eridnaaJrbTDxTfanZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > Never lived in a metropolitan city, have you? > > Only Miami, Chicago, Phoenix and LA. > > > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:Xns9A3C9B4516729Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> news:fc2dnS3OHZIsaDTanZ2dnUVZ_t- dnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> > >> > You;re from where and lived where? > >> > >> Too numerous to list and as you have noted, you really don't care > >> what I think anyway so why would you really be interested in where I > >> have lived? The truth is that you aren't. So why ask? > >> > >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in > >> > message news:Xns9A3C693C023BASandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> news:f5idndmLHJASAjXanZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> > >> >> > Name calling is a Philly thing. > >> >> > An urban thing. > >> >> > > >> >> > I thought you knew about urban life??? > >> >> > >> >> Where I'm from and in places I have lived it can get you killed. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> RD (The Sandman) > >> > >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > > > > > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:XLOdnXt5xvK9BDHanZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@comcast.com: > Liar. If you already have your mind made up on the only answer you'll accept, why waste everybody's time asking the question? > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3E5D8397C68Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> news:veWdnRoh5_S95zfanZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> > Be honest with me, what really bothers you about all this? >> > >> > Let me try a theory, you're one of these people that think if you have >> > any gun limitation that's it going to balloon into all guns being >> > outlawed. >> > >> > Same with Scout, Sandman, et al. >> > >> > Am I close? >> >> Nope. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:tOqdndNcpp- kBDHanZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@comcast.com: > Cool. HOwever, since we are there, let's finish it right. > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3E5D9C6F712Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> news:2sudnVobK4kygDbanZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> > Thanks, that's all I needed to know from you. >> > >> > So, under those auspices, you don't agree with the Iraq "war"? >> >> That would be correct. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:sN- dnQ5Nm6nxBDHanZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com: > I see you used the word "regulation." > > Freud would love you. I see you failed to answer the question. Cheney would love you. > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3E5DC215C66Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> news:7dSdnVlHq4r5BjbanZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> > Well I think that the Iraq "war" was based on lies and stupidity. >> >> Do you agree with it? If not, why do you propose regulation that is >> based on lies and stupidity? >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> > news:7vKqj.67724$vt2.42037@bignews8.bellsouth.net... >> >> robw wrote: >> >> > Thanks, that's all I needed to know from you. >> >> > >> >> > So, under those auspices, you don't agree with the Iraq "war"? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> As I've stated before, I don't think the US was justified in >> >> attacking Iraq. However, now that we're there we need to finish what >> >> we started. >> >> >> >> But, that's a totally different situation from imposing 'one gun a >> >> month' the law abiding. >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> >> > news:s3vqj.68186$Mu4.37317@bignews7.bellsouth.net... >> >> >> robw wrote: >> >> >>> Be honest with me, what really bothers you about all this? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Let me try a theory, you're one of these people that think if you >> >> >>> have >> >> > any >> >> >>> gun limitation that's it going to balloon into all guns being >> > outlawed. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Same with Scout, Sandman, et al. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Am I close? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> I don't agree with policy based on lies and stupidity. -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:vLCdnez8ms6wBzHanZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com: > I read many essays on criminals and their relation to culture, etc. And > while I'm reading people are getting killed in West Philly. > > Guns out of their hands first, correct the situation next. I see you agree that your plan on gun regulation won't correct the situation. Why don't you work on something that will? > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3E5E0F2AA98Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> news:0rmdnbrQPdrFgzbanZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> > While I thank you for your honesty, please don't be upset when I offer >> > that you have no right being in a discussion concerning the safety of >> > people. >> >> Bullshit. >> >> > You only care about the guns. >> >> So do you, apparently, since you have refused to read other means of >> reducing criminal violence. >> >> >> > We care about the people, which seeing as we live in >> > Philly.....includes us. >> >> Then why haven't you read What works, what doesn't and what looks >> promising? >> >> > "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message >> > news:9ivqj.19497$hF2.1342@trnddc02... >> >> Ok, I honestly think that it will balloon into all guns being >> >> outlawed. Here in CA, we recently were betrayed by the Governator, >> >> who signed a microstamping bill. So, buying guns will be legal in >> >> CA. The only >> > problem >> >> will be that the ones that are approved for sale in CA, are guns that >> > don't >> >> exist. "One gun/month" was the "gateway drug" for this legislation. >> >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >> news:veWdnRoh5_S95zfanZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> > Be honest with me, what really bothers you about all this? >> >> > >> >> > Let me try a theory, you're one of these people that think if you >> >> > have >> > any >> >> > gun limitation that's it going to balloon into all guns being >> >> > outlawed. >> >> > >> >> > Same with Scout, Sandman, et al. >> >> > >> >> > Am I close? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> >> > news:KVtqj.92329$L%6.65463@bignews3.bellsouth.net... >> >> >> robw wrote: >> >> >> > I pointed out that I could give a rat's ass. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> So when advocating the 'one gun a month' law do you tell people >> >> >> that it's based on a fairy tale? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> >> >> > news:fUqqj.77412$N67.48315@bignews5.bellsouth.net... >> >> >> >> robw wrote: >> >> >> >>> I respond to remind you that you don't have the game to change >> >> >> >>> my >> >> > mind. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> You can believe in any fairy tale you wish, I've just pointed >> >> >> >> out >> > that >> >> >> >> what you believe is a fairy tale. -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
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