Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:YsOdnXRZSoegBjHanZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@comcast.com: > You have friends over for dinner who have two kids. The adults are > upstairs while the kids are down in the family room playing XBox. One > of the kids picks up a pack of matches, lights one, freaks and tosses > it resulting in the drapes catching fire. > > What would you do first? > > Put out the fire or explore and correct the behaviours? > > Thank you. I don't have any kids at home. > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3E5E3F4B53ESandman@216.196.97.136... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> news:qKidndnK_bxxyTfanZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> > Waking up and not having to read another story about a six year old >> > kid getting caught in the crossfire of illegal guns will make me >> > very >> happy. >> > Yes. >> >> It would make me happy too. So why not address the problem of the >> criminal? >> >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in >> > message news:Xns9A3C99E765AEASandman@216.196.97.136... >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> >> news:mbWdnYEJ7JX5ZDTanZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> >> >> > One handgun a month. >> >> >> >> Nice trite saying. The words themselves must really make you feel >> >> comfortable. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:rsKdnQT8qdjWBjHanZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@comcast.com: > When? Since you don't answer my questions, let Google be your friend. > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3E5E51125DFSandman@216.196.97.136... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> news:B6GdncNTZNKxyDfanZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> > Did you ever answer my question of what city you came from and where >> you >> > live now? >> >> Yes. >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message >> > news:Xns9A3C97CD7FD23Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:VvmdnWl8dL1 >> >> _czTanZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> >> >> > Yes, I do. >> >> >> >> No, you don't. If you did, you would understand what Scout, I and >> >> others are trying to tell you. >> >> >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in >> message >> >> > news:Xns9A3C6293E829Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> >> >> news:weadncOhw6bPaDXanZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Do you have any idea of the concept of Best Practices???? >> >> >> >> >> >> Do you have an idea of the concept of the black market or illegal >> >> market >> >> >> for guns? -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:TvidnXmxudDlBjHanZ2dnUVZ_g2dnZ2d@comcast.com: > Yes, it would. > I've shown you repeatedly. You haven't shown squat. Well, I take that back....you have shown you don't understand how businesses work, you don't understand how dealers work, you don't understand how the black market works, etc.. Have I missed anything? > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3E5E708F33Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> news:NbqdndjJyYLOyDfanZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> > The law would hinder the supply. >> >> No, it wouldn't. It only addresses the legal supply not the illegal >> one. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest Magus Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 robw wrote: > You have friends over for dinner who have two kids. The adults are upstairs > while the kids are down in the family room playing XBox. One of the kids > picks up a pack of matches, lights one, freaks and tosses it resulting in > the drapes catching fire. > > What would you do first? > Put out the fire, I wouldn't try to ban matches. > Put out the fire or explore and correct the behaviours? > After putting out the fire then educate the child in correct behavior. Maybe tell the child to not touch matches, I wouldn't tell everyone in the house that they were not to touch matches. > Thank you. > Find an example that supports your position. > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3E5E3F4B53ESandman@216.196.97.136... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> news:qKidndnK_bxxyTfanZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >>> Waking up and not having to read another story about a six year old kid >>> getting caught in the crossfire of illegal guns will make me very >> happy. >>> Yes. >> It would make me happy too. So why not address the problem of the >> criminal? >> >> >>> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message >>> news:Xns9A3C99E765AEASandman@216.196.97.136... >>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >>>> news:mbWdnYEJ7JX5ZDTanZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@comcast.com: >>>> >>>>> One handgun a month. >>>> Nice trite saying. The words themselves must really make you feel >>>> comfortable. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> RD (The Sandman) >>>> >>>> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >>>> to terrorism is much, much worse >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:bYOdnQZu5cQ6BjHanZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@comcast.com: > If you can't handle your own truths, that's your problem. That you're biased? Oh, well, we all knew that..... "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3E5EA0C2F6CSandman@216.196.97.136... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> news:E8OdnWBs4YKa5jfanZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> > I don't belong to any gun control groups. >> > I belong to an organization that want to stop violence here. >> > >> > You bias is showing. You could give a rat's ass about any of the dead >> > or how they got that way. >> >> Your bias showed in the very next sentence. >> >> > Just don't f ck with your guns, right? >> > >> > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> > news:H1uqj.92335$L%6.34658@bignews3.bellsouth.net... >> >> robw wrote: >> >> > Harrisburg already stopped it. Too many western Pa. senators and >> >> > reps >> > that >> >> > are beholden to the gun lobby. >> >> > >> >> >> >> Why is it that when gun owners get together it's "The Gun Lobby", but >> >> when gun control groups get together it's a "grassroot" movement? >> >> >> >> > But you don't just quit. Funny things can happen. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> >> > news:l7oqj.61627$k27.20922@bignews2.bellsouth.net... >> >> >> robw wrote: >> >> >>> I said that....when? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Here's the bottom line, I and those that feel the same as me are >> >> >>> going >> >> > to >> >> >>> push for this. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Nothing you say will stop us. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> It's really that simple. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> And if you don't live in Philly, it will make not one difference >> >> >>> in >> > your >> >> >>> life. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> And when it doesn't pass due to state preemption your feelings >> >> >> will be hurt, again--just like the last time Philly tried similar >> >> >> stuff and got smacked down by the State Supreme Court. -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:HbWdnSMSjdZkBjHanZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com: > So people get killed by feathers every day? Probably as many as get killed by guns acting on their own. > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3E5ED4CF541Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> news:npGdnbeTleBzgzbanZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> > The tool kills. >> >> NO, it doesn't. It gets used for whatever the person holding wishes to >> use it for. The gun makes no decisions on its own. Kinda like you. >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> > news:N5vqj.68190$Mu4.35629@bignews7.bellsouth.net... >> >> robw wrote: >> >> > I don't belong to any gun control groups. >> >> > I belong to an organization that want to stop violence here. >> >> > >> >> > You bias is showing. You could give a rat's ass about any of the >> >> > dead or >> > how >> >> > they got that way. >> >> > >> >> > Just don't f ck with your guns, right? >> >> > >> >> >> >> The gun is a tool, what is the underlying cause of the social ills? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> >> > news:H1uqj.92335$L%6.34658@bignews3.bellsouth.net... >> >> >> robw wrote: >> >> >>> Harrisburg already stopped it. Too many western Pa. senators and >> >> >>> reps >> >> > that >> >> >>> are beholden to the gun lobby. >> >> >>> >> >> >> Why is it that when gun owners get together it's "The Gun Lobby", >> >> >> but when gun control groups get together it's a "grassroot" >> >> >> movement? >> >> >> >> >> >>> But you don't just quit. Funny things can happen. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message >> >> >>> news:l7oqj.61627$k27.20922@bignews2.bellsouth.net... >> >> >>>> robw wrote: >> >> >>>>> I said that....when? >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Here's the bottom line, I and those that feel the same as me >> >> >>>>> are >> > going >> >> >>> to >> >> >>>>> push for this. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Nothing you say will stop us. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> It's really that simple. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> And if you don't live in Philly, it will make not one >> >> >>>>> difference in >> >> > your >> >> >>>>> life. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>> And when it doesn't pass due to state preemption your feelings >> >> >>>> will >> > be >> >> >>>> hurt, again--just like the last time Philly tried similar stuff >> >> >>>> and >> > got >> >> >>>> smacked down by the State Supreme Court. -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in news:LJ%qj.28$r03.0@trnddc08: > I asked him point blank if that is what he was proposing (1 > gun/mo/dealer), and was told to go read the previous postings. (Which > is why I was asking the question.) Kinda like disscussions with "The > Weasle". Not really. The weasel is a magnitude smarter. -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:0-ednWTmdYD0ATHanZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@comcast.com: > Perhaps you misunderstood. > When I use the word dealer I'm not talking about the store owner. Perhaps, then, you should start using the terminology that is used on this planet. > "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:LJ%qj.28$r03.0@trnddc08... >> I asked him point blank if that is what he was proposing (1 > gun/mo/dealer), >> and was told to go read the previous postings. (Which is why I was >> asking the question.) Kinda like disscussions with "The Weasle". >> >> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:Xns9A3E5F6F04A13Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> > news:lcidnVUV7ucayjfanZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com: >> > >> >> The other side of the counter would only be able to buy one >> >> handgun a month. >> > >> > ROFLMAO!!! You don't even know what one gun a month legislation >> > addresses. Hint, it doesn't limit dealers to one gun a month. >> > >> > >> >> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in >> >> message news:Xns9A3C993D58E65Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> >>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> >>> news:2rudndTQSP0gbjTanZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >>> >> >>> > If you're a dealer who has been able to by x amount of guns >> >>> > from a >> >>> dealer >> >>> > and now that number is one....... >> >>> >> >>> But it isn't. If they were already breaking the law, passing one >> >>> gun a month won't change that. >> >>> >> >>> FWIW, dealers buy guns from distributors not other dealers. -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest Magus Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 robw wrote: > Yes, it would. > I've shown you repeatedly. > You've asserted it's the solution, you haven't demonstrated it would actually work. > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3E5E708F33Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> news:NbqdndjJyYLOyDfanZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >>> The law would hinder the supply. >> No, it wouldn't. It only addresses the legal supply not the illegal >> one. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:O6KdnaefrsuKATHanZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com: > Hint: the Philly proposal would. No, it wouldn't. You can't even define the term "dealer" much less understand how dealers work in the real world. > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3E5F6F04A13Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> news:lcidnVUV7ucayjfanZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> > The other side of the counter would only be able to buy one handgun a >> > month. >> >> ROFLMAO!!! You don't even know what one gun a month legislation >> addresses. Hint, it doesn't limit dealers to one gun a month. >> >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message >> > news:Xns9A3C993D58E65Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> >> news:2rudndTQSP0gbjTanZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> >> >> > If you're a dealer who has been able to by x amount of guns from a >> >> dealer >> >> > and now that number is one....... >> >> >> >> But it isn't. If they were already breaking the law, passing one gun >> >> a month won't change that. >> >> >> >> FWIW, dealers buy guns from distributors not other dealers. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:GKqdnR3tLuMKATHanZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@comcast.com: > In or near the cities? Both > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3E5F96D48B4Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> news:eridnaaJrbTDxTfanZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> > Never lived in a metropolitan city, have you? >> >> Only Miami, Chicago, Phoenix and LA. >> >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message >> > news:Xns9A3C9B4516729Sandman@216.196.97.136... >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> >> news:fc2dnS3OHZIsaDTanZ2dnUVZ_t- dnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> >> >> > You;re from where and lived where? >> >> >> >> Too numerous to list and as you have noted, you really don't care >> >> what I think anyway so why would you really be interested in where I >> >> have lived? The truth is that you aren't. So why ask? >> >> >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in >> >> > message news:Xns9A3C693C023BASandman@216.196.97.136... >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in >> >> >> news:f5idndmLHJASAjXanZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Name calling is a Philly thing. >> >> >> > An urban thing. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I thought you knew about urban life??? >> >> >> >> >> >> Where I'm from and in places I have lived it can get you killed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> RD (The Sandman) >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest Magus Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 RD (The Sandman) wrote: > "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in > news:LJ%qj.28$r03.0@trnddc08: > >> I asked him point blank if that is what he was proposing (1 >> gun/mo/dealer), and was told to go read the previous postings. (Which >> is why I was asking the question.) Kinda like disscussions with "The >> Weasle". > > Not really. The weasel is a magnitude smarter. > > The intelligence might be different, but it's no contest in the honesty department. As much as I disagree with robw's logic, he's up front in stance. Quote
Guest DerekSmalls Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 RD (The Sandman) wrote: > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote like the top posting retard he is: > >>I read many essays on criminals and their relation to culture, etc. And >>while I'm reading people are getting killed in West Philly. >> >>Guns out of their hands first, correct the situation next. > I see you agree that your plan on gun regulation won't correct the > situation. Why don't you work on something that will? Why doesn't Robweetard want to correct the situation(the real problem!) first? Guns can't possibly "cause" or promote problems, after all. I have a few firearms and other forms of weapons, and they never caused any problems. Even he said "Their hands". Who is this "their" that ROBW finally admitted to acknowledging to being the real problem? Guns, penis's, fists, knives, bludgeoning "weapons"( and other tools) aren't the issue. Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Prove me wrong. "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E896EDF778Sandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:XLOdnXt5xvK9BDHanZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > Liar. > > If you already have your mind made up on the only answer you'll accept, > why waste everybody's time asking the question? > > > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:Xns9A3E5D8397C68Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> news:veWdnRoh5_S95zfanZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> > >> > Be honest with me, what really bothers you about all this? > >> > > >> > Let me try a theory, you're one of these people that think if you > have > >> > any gun limitation that's it going to balloon into all guns being > >> > outlawed. > >> > > >> > Same with Scout, Sandman, et al. > >> > > >> > Am I close? > >> > >> Nope. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> RD (The Sandman) > >> > >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > > > > > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Finish what? You're going to guarantee me a win in Iraq ends terrorism? "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E898AD5EECSandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:tOqdndNcpp- > kBDHanZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > Cool. > > HOwever, since we are there, let's finish it right. > > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:Xns9A3E5D9C6F712Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> news:2sudnVobK4kygDbanZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> > >> > Thanks, that's all I needed to know from you. > >> > > >> > So, under those auspices, you don't agree with the Iraq "war"? > >> > >> That would be correct. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> RD (The Sandman) > >> > >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > > > > > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 I'll answer any question that you'd like. "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E89BB8D8D0Sandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:sN- > dnQ5Nm6nxBDHanZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > I see you used the word "regulation." > > > > Freud would love you. > > I see you failed to answer the question. Cheney would love you. > > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:Xns9A3E5DC215C66Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> news:7dSdnVlHq4r5BjbanZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> > >> > Well I think that the Iraq "war" was based on lies and stupidity. > >> > >> Do you agree with it? If not, why do you propose regulation that is > >> based on lies and stupidity? > >> > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> > news:7vKqj.67724$vt2.42037@bignews8.bellsouth.net... > >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> > Thanks, that's all I needed to know from you. > >> >> > > >> >> > So, under those auspices, you don't agree with the Iraq "war"? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> As I've stated before, I don't think the US was justified in > >> >> attacking Iraq. However, now that we're there we need to finish > what > >> >> we started. > >> >> > >> >> But, that's a totally different situation from imposing 'one gun a > >> >> month' the law abiding. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:s3vqj.68186$Mu4.37317@bignews7.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >>> Be honest with me, what really bothers you about all this? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Let me try a theory, you're one of these people that think if > you > >> >> >>> have > >> >> > any > >> >> >>> gun limitation that's it going to balloon into all guns being > >> > outlawed. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Same with Scout, Sandman, et al. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Am I close? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> I don't agree with policy based on lies and stupidity. > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Guns out of their hands will stop the killings. "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E8A0869F05Sandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:vLCdnez8ms6wBzHanZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > I read many essays on criminals and their relation to culture, etc. And > > while I'm reading people are getting killed in West Philly. > > > > Guns out of their hands first, correct the situation next. > > I see you agree that your plan on gun regulation won't correct the > situation. Why don't you work on something that will? > > > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:Xns9A3E5E0F2AA98Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> news:0rmdnbrQPdrFgzbanZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> > >> > While I thank you for your honesty, please don't be upset when I > offer > >> > that you have no right being in a discussion concerning the safety > of > >> > people. > >> > >> Bullshit. > >> > >> > You only care about the guns. > >> > >> So do you, apparently, since you have refused to read other means of > >> reducing criminal violence. > >> > >> > >> > We care about the people, which seeing as we live in > >> > Philly.....includes us. > >> > >> Then why haven't you read What works, what doesn't and what looks > >> promising? > >> > >> > "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message > >> > news:9ivqj.19497$hF2.1342@trnddc02... > >> >> Ok, I honestly think that it will balloon into all guns being > >> >> outlawed. Here in CA, we recently were betrayed by the Governator, > >> >> who signed a microstamping bill. So, buying guns will be legal in > >> >> CA. The only > >> > problem > >> >> will be that the ones that are approved for sale in CA, are guns > that > >> > don't > >> >> exist. "One gun/month" was the "gateway drug" for this > legislation. > >> >> > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> news:veWdnRoh5_S95zfanZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> > Be honest with me, what really bothers you about all this? > >> >> > > >> >> > Let me try a theory, you're one of these people that think if you > >> >> > have > >> > any > >> >> > gun limitation that's it going to balloon into all guns being > >> >> > outlawed. > >> >> > > >> >> > Same with Scout, Sandman, et al. > >> >> > > >> >> > Am I close? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:KVtqj.92329$L%6.65463@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >> > I pointed out that I could give a rat's ass. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> So when advocating the 'one gun a month' law do you tell people > >> >> >> that it's based on a fairy tale? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> > news:fUqqj.77412$N67.48315@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >> >>> I respond to remind you that you don't have the game to > change > >> >> >> >>> my > >> >> > mind. > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> You can believe in any fairy tale you wish, I've just pointed > >> >> >> >> out > >> > that > >> >> >> >> what you believe is a fairy tale. > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Penis's????? You like to "swordfight"???? Are you f ckijng gay? "DerekSmalls" <SpinalTap@Bass.gov.> wrote in message news:47acc11e$0$7853$607ed4bc@cv.net... > RD (The Sandman) wrote: > > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote like the top posting retard he is: > > > >>I read many essays on criminals and their relation to culture, etc. And > >>while I'm reading people are getting killed in West Philly. > >> > >>Guns out of their hands first, correct the situation next. > > > I see you agree that your plan on gun regulation won't correct the > > situation. Why don't you work on something that will? > > Why doesn't Robweetard want to correct the situation(the real problem!) > first? > Guns can't possibly "cause" or promote problems, after all. > I have a few firearms and other forms of weapons, and they never caused > any problems. > > Even he said "Their hands". > > Who is this "their" that ROBW finally admitted to acknowledging to > being the real problem? > > Guns, penis's, fists, knives, bludgeoning "weapons"( and other tools) > aren't the issue. > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 You're not intelligent enough to think in abstracts? Or you don't have an answer? "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E8A2944995Sandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:YsOdnXRZSoegBjHanZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > You have friends over for dinner who have two kids. The adults are > > upstairs while the kids are down in the family room playing XBox. One > > of the kids picks up a pack of matches, lights one, freaks and tosses > > it resulting in the drapes catching fire. > > > > What would you do first? > > > > Put out the fire or explore and correct the behaviours? > > > > Thank you. > > I don't have any kids at home. > > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:Xns9A3E5E3F4B53ESandman@216.196.97.136... > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> news:qKidndnK_bxxyTfanZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> > >> > Waking up and not having to read another story about a six year old > >> > kid getting caught in the crossfire of illegal guns will make me > >> > very > >> happy. > >> > Yes. > >> > >> It would make me happy too. So why not address the problem of the > >> criminal? > >> > >> > >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in > >> > message news:Xns9A3C99E765AEASandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> news:mbWdnYEJ7JX5ZDTanZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> > >> >> > One handgun a month. > >> >> > >> >> Nice trite saying. The words themselves must really make you feel > >> >> comfortable. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> > >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> RD (The Sandman) > >> > >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > > > > > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Nice try, but I'm not for banning guns. There's not one thing I've said to that effect. If I really believed that all guns should be banned I'd be part of a group that wants to do that. As I've explained, I've been offered a chance to join such groups and turned them down. You really need to dial 1-800-Clue. "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message news:I53rj.93637$K27.56485@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > robw wrote: > > You have friends over for dinner who have two kids. The adults are upstairs > > while the kids are down in the family room playing XBox. One of the kids > > picks up a pack of matches, lights one, freaks and tosses it resulting in > > the drapes catching fire. > > > > What would you do first? > > > > Put out the fire, I wouldn't try to ban matches. > > > Put out the fire or explore and correct the behaviours? > > > > After putting out the fire then educate the child in correct behavior. > Maybe tell the child to not touch matches, I wouldn't tell everyone in > the house that they were not to touch matches. > > > Thank you. > > > > Find an example that supports your position. > > > > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:Xns9A3E5E3F4B53ESandman@216.196.97.136... > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> news:qKidndnK_bxxyTfanZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> > >>> Waking up and not having to read another story about a six year old kid > >>> getting caught in the crossfire of illegal guns will make me very > >> happy. > >>> Yes. > >> It would make me happy too. So why not address the problem of the > >> criminal? > >> > >> > >>> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > >>> news:Xns9A3C99E765AEASandman@216.196.97.136... > >>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >>>> news:mbWdnYEJ7JX5ZDTanZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >>>> > >>>>> One handgun a month. > >>>> Nice trite saying. The words themselves must really make you feel > >>>> comfortable. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> RD (The Sandman) > >>>> > >>>> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >>>> to terrorism is much, much worse > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> RD (The Sandman) > >> > >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Sounds like you missed your high school years. "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E8A8D471BDSandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:TvidnXmxudDlBjHanZ2dnUVZ_g2dnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > Yes, it would. > > I've shown you repeatedly. > > You haven't shown squat. Well, I take that back....you have shown you > don't understand how businesses work, you don't understand how dealers > work, you don't understand how the black market works, etc.. Have I > missed anything? > > > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:Xns9A3E5E708F33Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> news:NbqdndjJyYLOyDfanZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> > >> > The law would hinder the supply. > >> > >> No, it wouldn't. It only addresses the legal supply not the illegal > >> one. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> RD (The Sandman) > >> > >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > > > > > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Well the law would have to be in place for that to happen now, wouldn't it? "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message news:L83rj.93639$K27.47374@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > robw wrote: > > Yes, it would. > > I've shown you repeatedly. > > > > You've asserted it's the solution, you haven't demonstrated it would > actually work. > > > > > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:Xns9A3E5E708F33Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> news:NbqdndjJyYLOyDfanZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> > >>> The law would hinder the supply. > >> No, it wouldn't. It only addresses the legal supply not the illegal > >> one. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> RD (The Sandman) > >> > >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> to terrorism is much, much worse > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 "biased" how? "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E8AB36EA0FSandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:bYOdnQZu5cQ6BjHanZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > If you can't handle your own truths, that's your problem. > > That you're biased? Oh, well, we all knew that..... > > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:Xns9A3E5EA0C2F6CSandman@216.196.97.136... > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> news:E8OdnWBs4YKa5jfanZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> > >> > I don't belong to any gun control groups. > >> > I belong to an organization that want to stop violence here. > >> > > >> > You bias is showing. You could give a rat's ass about any of the > dead > >> > or how they got that way. > >> > >> Your bias showed in the very next sentence. > >> > >> > Just don't f ck with your guns, right? > >> > > >> > > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> > news:H1uqj.92335$L%6.34658@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> > Harrisburg already stopped it. Too many western Pa. senators and > >> >> > reps > >> > that > >> >> > are beholden to the gun lobby. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> Why is it that when gun owners get together it's "The Gun Lobby", > but > >> >> when gun control groups get together it's a "grassroot" movement? > >> >> > >> >> > But you don't just quit. Funny things can happen. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:l7oqj.61627$k27.20922@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >>> I said that....when? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Here's the bottom line, I and those that feel the same as me > are > >> >> >>> going > >> >> > to > >> >> >>> push for this. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Nothing you say will stop us. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> It's really that simple. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> And if you don't live in Philly, it will make not one > difference > >> >> >>> in > >> > your > >> >> >>> life. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> And when it doesn't pass due to state preemption your feelings > >> >> >> will be hurt, again--just like the last time Philly tried > similar > >> >> >> stuff and got smacked down by the State Supreme Court. > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 So this creep could have killed five people with a feather? "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E8ADF72699Sandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:HbWdnSMSjdZkBjHanZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com: > > > So people get killed by feathers every day? > > Probably as many as get killed by guns acting on their own. > > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:Xns9A3E5ED4CF541Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> news:npGdnbeTleBzgzbanZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> > >> > The tool kills. > >> > >> NO, it doesn't. It gets used for whatever the person holding wishes to > >> use it for. The gun makes no decisions on its own. Kinda like > you. > >> > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> > news:N5vqj.68190$Mu4.35629@bignews7.bellsouth.net... > >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> > I don't belong to any gun control groups. > >> >> > I belong to an organization that want to stop violence here. > >> >> > > >> >> > You bias is showing. You could give a rat's ass about any of the > >> >> > dead or > >> > how > >> >> > they got that way. > >> >> > > >> >> > Just don't f ck with your guns, right? > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> The gun is a tool, what is the underlying cause of the social ills? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:H1uqj.92335$L%6.34658@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >>> Harrisburg already stopped it. Too many western Pa. senators > and > >> >> >>> reps > >> >> > that > >> >> >>> are beholden to the gun lobby. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> Why is it that when gun owners get together it's "The Gun > Lobby", > >> >> >> but when gun control groups get together it's a "grassroot" > >> >> >> movement? > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> But you don't just quit. Funny things can happen. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>> news:l7oqj.61627$k27.20922@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >>>> robw wrote: > >> >> >>>>> I said that....when? > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> Here's the bottom line, I and those that feel the same as me > >> >> >>>>> are > >> > going > >> >> >>> to > >> >> >>>>> push for this. > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> Nothing you say will stop us. > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> It's really that simple. > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> And if you don't live in Philly, it will make not one > >> >> >>>>> difference in > >> >> > your > >> >> >>>>> life. > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>> And when it doesn't pass due to state preemption your feelings > >> >> >>>> will > >> > be > >> >> >>>> hurt, again--just like the last time Philly tried similar > stuff > >> >> >>>> and > >> > got > >> >> >>>> smacked down by the State Supreme Court. > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
Guest robw Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 I'm using terminology that used in the city. Gee, perhaps I do know a little more than you do. "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3E8B30CE0D9Sandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:0-ednWTmdYD0ATHanZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > Perhaps you misunderstood. > > When I use the word dealer I'm not talking about the store owner. > > Perhaps, then, you should start using the terminology that is used on > this planet. > > > > "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:LJ%qj.28$r03.0@trnddc08... > >> I asked him point blank if that is what he was proposing (1 > > gun/mo/dealer), > >> and was told to go read the previous postings. (Which is why I was > >> asking the question.) Kinda like disscussions with "The Weasle". > >> > >> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:Xns9A3E5F6F04A13Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> > news:lcidnVUV7ucayjfanZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> > > >> >> The other side of the counter would only be able to buy one > >> >> handgun a month. > >> > > >> > ROFLMAO!!! You don't even know what one gun a month legislation > >> > addresses. Hint, it doesn't limit dealers to one gun a month. > >> > > >> > > >> >> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> message news:Xns9A3C993D58E65Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >>> news:2rudndTQSP0gbjTanZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >>> > >> >>> > If you're a dealer who has been able to by x amount of guns > >> >>> > from a > >> >>> dealer > >> >>> > and now that number is one....... > >> >>> > >> >>> But it isn't. If they were already breaking the law, passing one > >> >>> gun a month won't change that. > >> >>> > >> >>> FWIW, dealers buy guns from distributors not other dealers. > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
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