Guest Magus Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 robw wrote: > Let's see, I sell 120 guns to illegal buyers. > And each instance of you doing so is a felony. > Now I can only sell one. > No, now you can only buy one from a FFL dealer. > You investing????? > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > news:s3Npj.84358$ds2.38614@trnddc05... >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:v-SdnYIoNbMQBzranZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> Do the math and get back to me. >> Ok, You engage in 120 federal felonies every month. The state passes a > minor >> law and suddenly you change your ways, seek God, and now only commit 2 >> federal felonies each month. >> >> Right, and pigs fly. >> >> > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 And we want to limit those buys. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:ZpOpj.6633$qI.4194@trnddc03... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Te-dnXVI-pRyPzranZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@comcast.com... > > There is no such thing as legal buyers selling to criminals???? > > Nope, it's a crime. > > > Why don't you ask Lou's Pawnshop in Philly. > > Yea, and I note he's in jail. > > > Get back to me, won't ya'??? > > Don't have to get back to you. It's a federal crime to engage in staw sales, > or to purchase a gun with the intent of transfering it to a prohibited > person. > > Hence there are no legal buyers of guns for sell to criminals. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:T0Npj.6613$qI.164@trnddc03... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:m-Gdna1FPsD7BDranZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > The one gun question..... > >> > > >> > Let's see..... I'm a legal buyer who sells the guns to criminals. > >> > >> Sorry, but there is no such thing. > >> > >> > > >> > Thugs, as you all so "with it" morons like to refer it to. > >> > > >> > If I'm buying 30 guns a month and selling them at 30 bucks I'm making > > 900 > >> > bucks a month. > >> > (you following this?) > >> > > >> > If I can only buy one handgun a month my profits kinda go down. > >> > >> I see, so you are willing to engage in federal crimes which for each > >> purchase/sale carries a mandatory minimum of 10 years in the federal pen, > >> and you think some piddly ass state statute is suddenly going to matter > >> to > >> you? I thought you were a criminal who didn't care about the law? So why > > are > >> you suggesting that you would suddenly start obeying this particular law > >> when you've already ignored all the others. For that matter why would any > >> other criminal? > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Not at all. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:PqOpj.84243$U12.68735@trnddc06... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:hr6dnQc-pL2GPjranZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Talk to Lou's Pawn Shop and get back to me. > > So it's your contention that Lou's Pawn Shop represents every resident of > Philly? > > How did all those people manage to fit into that little bitty building? > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:I1Npj.46139$K%.27628@trnddc04... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:dpKdnbObuusmBDranZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > No. In Philly the people buying the guns are selling them to the > >> > criminals. > >> > >> Proof please that eveyone who buys a gun in Philly is engaged in straw > >> sales. > >> > >> > > >> > you don't live in a major city, do you? > >> > >> I have, and still didnt' see what you blindly assert. > >> > >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> > news:U9Mpj.19896$Ou1.19084@trnddc07... > >> >> > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> news:aPGdnX5Qx_BHHDranZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> > Well, let's see....... > >> >> > > >> >> > If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to people > >> >> > who > >> >> > are > >> >> > not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able to buy > > one > >> > gun > >> >> > a > >> >> > month? > >> >> > >> >> Then you have eliminated a major indicator to the ATF that an > >> > investigation > >> >> may be called for. Further, as occured here, what simply happened is > > you > >> > had > >> >> fleets of people buying guns turning them over to this middleman who > > then > >> >> sold them to the criminals. End result as far as criminal access to > > guns? > >> >> Zip, Nada, Nothing, Zilch, Zero. The ATF, however, now find it a lot > >> > harder > >> >> to indentify and track such strawsales since they now generate no > > special > >> >> paperwork as occured before. > >> >> > >> >> I will simply note that your 'solution' involves restricting legal > > guns. > >> >> Something you said you weren't interested in. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >> > Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it from the > >> > dealer. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun Reporting > > program. > >> >> >> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any "multiple > >> >> >> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five consecutive > >> >> >> business days. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > And before you even start, this would not include people with > >> >> > collector's > >> >> >> > licenses. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's license"? > >> >> >> Or > >> >> >> would this be a new requirement? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> > news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> >> >>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start. > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> Straw buys are currently illegal. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> How do you propose to eliminate them? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> >>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> >>>> robw wrote: > >> >> >> >>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself out. > >> >> >> >>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it. > >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing. > >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>>> You? > >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished? > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Where am I going to get the guns if I'm limited to one a month? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:CrOpj.84289$U12.53993@trnddc06... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:DqidnWVjs4nrPjranZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Let's see, I sell 120 guns to illegal buyers. > > > > Now I can only sell one. > > Really? You're going to suddenly start obeying the law you have been > ignoring because I pass a new law? > > You must be a rather stupid criminal. > > > You investing????? > > > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:s3Npj.84358$ds2.38614@trnddc05... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:v-SdnYIoNbMQBzranZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > Do the math and get back to me. > >> > >> Ok, You engage in 120 federal felonies every month. The state passes a > > minor > >> law and suddenly you change your ways, seek God, and now only commit 2 > >> federal felonies each month. > >> > >> Right, and pigs fly. > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 When? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:MrOpj.84299$U12.34469@trnddc06... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:UbednWtJ0rcXPjranZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Did I say I was a criminal??? > > Yes. > > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:_5Npj.46140$K%.45823@trnddc04... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:Rc-dnZ16iIVfBzranZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > Where have I ever said I was a criminal? > >> > >> "sell them to criminals" > >> > >> > >> > >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> > news:ClMpj.6414$qI.4566@trnddc03... > >> >> > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> news:b9mdnbZRr8VmGjranZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> > If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to criminals.....and > > now > >> > I > >> >> > can only buy one gun a month... > >> >> > >> >> Sorry, but how exactly does this law mean you can only buy 1 gun a > > month? > >> > I > >> >> thought you were a criminal and not constrained to obeying the law, or > >> >> did > >> > I > >> >> misunderstand you? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> >> RD (The Sandman) wrote: > >> >> >> > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9 > >> >> >> > _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > And will eliminate straw purchases....how???? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> It won't. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical > >> >> >> question, > >> >> >> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells > > them > >> > to > >> >> >> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only > > being > >> >> >> able to buy one gun a month?" > >> >> >> > >> >> >> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys". > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Knock yourself out. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:PsOpj.84364$U12.59863@trnddc06... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:2oydnTfCebvGOTranZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Thank you, you asshole because if the anti-gun ever does win it will be > > because of morons like you. > > "I want!" > > Oh, so it's only about need? Then turn off your computer and never return to > the newsgroups because you have no NEED to do so. > > Oh, that's right, you feel you have a need to talk about what you want. > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 It's never been tried in Philly. But you can relax. Harrisburg won't let Philly institute it's own laws and when the western part of the state you're not going to get a statewide law passed. Feel better? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:GuOpj.46148$K%.1807@trnddc04... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:P8mdnbqOMKAfOTranZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > So give us a chance. > > It's already been tried time and time and time again. It has NEVER worked. > So why should I allow you to fuck people over to try yet again. Show me that > you have any reasonable proof of producing a different result. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:CcMpj.17266$hF2.4419@trnddc02... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:DeSdnZYLqrsoGTranZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > One a month sales would help hinder the supply???? > >> > >> We've had that for quite sometime, and oddly enough we have seen no > > decline > >> in the criminal access to illegal guns. > >> > >> > >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> > news:Xns9A3A912177DC4Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> news:pbmdnWB7jeED7TranZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> > >> >> > Eliminating straw buys would be a great start. > >> >> > >> >> Yep, and they are already illegal. Now what?? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> > >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 How could they illegally buy 59 more when they are the source of the illegal guns???? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:nvOpj.17295$hF2.11680@trnddc02... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:NMqdnaB84qs2OTranZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Legal to buy 60 guns in a month. > > Legal to buy 1. > > and can illegally buy the other 59. After all, you are already engaged in > federal felonies. What difference does it make if you continue to break the > law? > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:13Mpj.2656$xE.1245@trnddc01... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:pbmdnWB7jeED7TranZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > Eliminating straw buys would be a great start. > >> > >> You do realize that straw sales are ALREADY illegal. Right? > >> > >> So how much more illegal do you want them to be? > >> > >> > >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >> > news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> >> robw wrote: > >> >> > If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself out. > >> >> > If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it. > >> >> > > >> >> > I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing. > >> >> > > >> >> > You? > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> How do you suggest that be accomplished? > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Just read what I wrote and believe it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:KvOpj.84534$U12.18994@trnddc06... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:vN6dnYEYFvsjOTranZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > You;re not going to change my mind. > > Well, first you would have to have a mind for me to be able to change it. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:R1Mpj.75331$U12.39351@trnddc06... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:cqadnWalQ8-MxDranZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself out. > >> > If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it. > >> > > >> > I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing. > >> > >> IOW, you want an impossible fantasy.....mean while back in reality...... > >> > >> > >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > >> > news:47a75654$0$25029$607ed4bc@cv.net... > >> >> RD (The Sandman) wrote: > >> >> > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> > news:9-idnZPN-aPEHjvanZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> > >> >> >>I'm not opposed to guns. > >> >> >>I'm opposed to illegal guns. > >> >> > >> >> > So are we opposed to illegal possession of guns. Do you get it now, > >> >> > asshole? > >> >> > >> >> "robw" forgets that ONLY criminals can have guns in or near Chicago. > >> >> (legality means nothing) > >> >> "robw" forgets that ONLY criminals shoot unarmed people. > >> >> "robw" forgets that ONLY the free people are denied a method to defend > >> >> thenselvs in Chicago, as ordered by the LIBERAL government that > >> >> inacted > >> >> stump stupid laws that cured nothing. > >> >> "robw" forgets that he is dancing in the blood of other's demise to > >> >> promote his stupidity. > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 So we agree that more "Lou's" should be shut down. "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message news:47a7b505$0$25051$607ed4bc@cv.net... > robw, thr top posting retard wrote: > > > There is no such thing as legal buyers selling to criminals???? > > NOBODY said that, you retard. > > > > > Why don't you ask Lou's Pawnshop in Philly. > > Is "Lou's Pawnshop" still operating/selling gins, after they were proven > to have sold items illegally? > > You are such a dolt! Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 If you have that name in Philly you'd better be Irish. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:wyOpj.84694$U12.61095@trnddc06... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:V-6dnRSXG-NAOTranZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@comcast.com... > > And you're named Kerry. > > > > Folks hoping for a girl? > > And you are still a dumb fuck > > http://www.babynamenetwork.com/baby_names/detail.cfm?name=Kerry&gender=Male > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kerry > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerry_%28name%29 > http://www.babiesonline.com/babynames/index.asp?name=Kerry > > > > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > > news:47a78996$0$25055$607ed4bc@cv.net... > >> robw, the top posting retard wrote: > >> > >> > Not what you inferred before there. > >> > >> I've always inferred that you were a retard. > >> > > >> > > >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > >> > news:47a77fd7$0$25048$607ed4bc@cv.net... > >> > > >> >>robw wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>>My right was taken away.....when? > >> >> > >> >>Your right to maintain a brain,, the day after your birth! > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Do you? "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message news:47a7b56f$0$25051$607ed4bc@cv.net... > robw the top posting retard wrote: > > > Talk to Lou's Pawn Shop and get back to me. > > Why? > > If they broke the law, then they should be shut down. > You have a problem with that? Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 It's what's happening in Philly. "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message news:47a7b62e$0$25018$607ed4bc@cv.net... > robw the top posting retard wrote: > > > Let's see, I sell 120 guns to illegal buyers. > > Why would you do that? > Federal laws "prevent" that... don't they? > > The more you spew your imaginary thoughts, the more you PROVE how much > of a jackasss you are. > > Stop watching TV! Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 No, it's true in far too many cases. I've been in these threads before and there's always a couple people who start the "It's my right. I want to buy all the guns I want" blah blah Perhaps not you, but far too many of your ilk feel exactly that way. Screw the crime problem, have to have those guns. "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message news:47a7b6a4$0$25018$607ed4bc@cv.net... > robw, the top post retard wrote: > > > Thank you, you asshole because if the anti-gun ever does win it will be > > because of morons like you. > > "I want!" > > > > Yeah, meanwhile,the NRA tells us oh so how much they want responsible gun > > owners. > > > > You;re liars. > > > > You want to be able to buy guns and screw the consequences. > > > > You;re such a f cing fraud. > > Thanks for PROVING just how stupid you have become. > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 I also posted that the proposed law would not effect collectors. But you conveniently left that out. Oh, it also wouldn't effect law enforcement people, and a few other groups. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:5FOpj.17298$hF2.10399@trnddc02... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:1_Sdnfb2e5qWODranZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Post it. > > Post when I said that. > > > > Bring it. > > From: "robw" <noddy...@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: GUN NUT MASSACRES 5 WOMEN IN CHICAGO CLOTHING STORE > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:49:48 -0500 > > Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. > > http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.indian/msg/339cf4b0a5d607d9?dmode=source > > Proof presented. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:pdMpj.2659$xE.1355@trnddc01... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:zvidnaygLpbGzzranZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > Not true. > >> > >> Really? So you aren't asking that EVERYONE be limited to purchasing only > > one > >> gun a month? > >> > >> Odd, I seem to recall someone using your handle making that assertion. > >> > >> > >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> > news:Xns9A3A6E194264CSandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> Magus <nope@noway.net> wrote in news:Zfwpj.65706$Mu4.23945 > >> >> @bignews7.bellsouth.net: > >> >> > >> >> > RD (The Sandman) wrote: > >> >> >> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in > >> >> >> news:47a5fe4b$0$4049$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net: > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> if guns were illegal in public places, and he did not have a gun, > > he > >> >> >>> would not have ben able to kill so many wonderful, taxpaying, life > >> >> >>> lvoing productive innocent citizens who would have made the tax > > cuts > >> >> >>> possible that gun nuts on the other hands so love to have. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I would bet that his possession of a firearm was illegal. Wanna > >> >> >> bet? > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > I'd even be willing to bet that he was a convicted felon too. > >> >> > > >> >> > Illegal for him to own a firearm. > >> >> > Illegal for him to possess a firearm. > >> >> > Illegal for him to use a firearm anywhere, let alone in Chicago and > >> >> that > >> >> > mall. > >> >> > > >> >> > Murder is also illegal, that didn't stop him five instances. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> Exactly, but all these anti gunners want to take guns from the folks > > who > >> >> didn't do it. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> > >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Then I guess you have no worries. "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message news:47a7b703$0$25018$607ed4bc@cv.net... > robw the top posting retard wrote: > > > You;re not going to change my mind. > > That's the beauty of it all! > YOU don't have a working mind to change. Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 As I said......... "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:yFOpj.46150$K%.39128@trnddc04... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:NeednXtd6_S9ODranZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > You're not changing my mind. > > Let it never be said that facts can change your mind. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:M%Lpj.46127$K%.22349@trnddc04... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:h4SdnY8oBZ4izzranZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > That is absolutely not true. > >> > > >> > Check out the law that was proposed in Philly. > >> > >> Which only proves RD's point. > >> > >> > >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> > news:Xns9A3A6DCC5192BSandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> news:kIadnf_wgohZ9DvanZ2dnUVZ_oidnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> > >> >> > If the gun was illegal it's only more shit to smear in your face. > >> >> > >> >> Not at all. I am as much against illegal possession of a firearm as > > you > >> >> should be. However, all the attempts of your ilk to pass gun control > > is > >> >> directed at the honest citizen not assholes like the one in Lane > > Bryant. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> > >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 A gun or a knife. I narrowed the choices because I figured you'd have trouble. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:ZGOpj.46151$K%.39915@trnddc04... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:UsadnX_R8obKOzranZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com... > > 50 yards. > > > > You want a gun or a knife to make the kill? > > How about a nice crossbow. Silent, Deadly, and all but impossible to trace. > > Oh, that's right we're suppose to assume that criminals would be limited to > your fantasy limitation of choices. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:gfMpj.6905$M71.4141@trnddc08... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:s-2dnWlsdeLl7DranZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > My thinking is that if the guy didn't have access to the gun he > >> > probably > >> > wouldn't have shot and killed people. > >> > >> Perhaps, but the issue is, would they still be alive, or would he simply > >> have killed them and possibly more by another means. > >> > >> Are you worried about saving lives, or just making sure they don't use > > guns? > >> > >> > >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > >> > news:47a766e1$0$25018$607ed4bc@cv.net... > >> >> robw, the top postin retard wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Smiling that this is another gun event that we'll stuff down your > >> > throat? > >> >> > >> >> it wasn't a "gun event", you mental midget. > >> >> It was a MURDER EVENT. > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > Yeah asshole, you keep smiling. > >> >> > >> >> I just smiled at your ignorance of what happened. > >> >> > >> >> YOU LAUGHED just because a gun was used by a retard like you, not > >> >> because innocent UNARMED PEOPLE were murdered. > >> >> > >> >> YOU still don't care, or understand. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Guess I was correct. "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message news:47a7b7d6$0$25064$607ed4bc@cv.net... > robw, the top posting retard wrote: > > > And you're named Kerry. > > > > Folks hoping for a girl? > > BWAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA! > > Wow! Sharp as a sack of wet mice, eh? > > You make Nancy Luft look brilliant! Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Why would people who are not criminals have a need to purchase more than one handgun a month? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:IJOpj.6934$M71.6819@trnddc08... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:24ednZ278INVOjranZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@comcast.com... > > People who are collectors. > > Which isn't everyone. Hence everyone else, almost all of whom are NOT > criminals shall be restricted because of your vain attempt to regulate > illegal guns. As if criminals are going to obey the law. > > > Who sell them? Asshole. > > Criminals. > > > Make a living that way, asshole??? > > Sure, they make money selling illegal drugs, and they also make money > selling illegal guns. Oddly, the term "Black Market" was coined to express > the fact that criminals can buy stuff which the law says isn't allowed. > Weird. Criminals find ways to get what they want even if it's illegal. > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:z_Mpj.2749$xE.1784@trnddc01... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:2pKdnakv2-DxBTranZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > The proposal wouldn't have effected collectors. > >> > >> Really? Every lawful citizen is a gun collector? > >> > >> If not, then you have yet to address the point made. > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Your next point ? > >> > >> > >> That you couldn't address the point about Philly, a topic you brought to > > the > >> table, BTW. > >> > >> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > >> > news:l0Mpj.46128$K%.20160@trnddc04... > >> >> > >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> >> news:TYSdnR5SR9CkzzranZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> >> > Im "get it" that morons like you have no regard for limiting illegal > >> > guns. > >> >> > >> >> How? By limiting legal guns like was proposed in Philly? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> > message > >> >> > news:Xns9A3A6DEEB9FC1Sandman@216.196.97.136... > >> >> >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > >> >> >> news:9-idnZPN-aPEHjvanZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I'm not opposed to guns. > >> >> >> > I'm opposed to illegal guns. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> So are we opposed to illegal possession of guns. Do you get it > >> >> >> now, > >> >> >> asshole? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> RD (The Sandman) > >> >> >> > >> >> >> War is absolute hell.....but to give in > >> >> >> to terrorism is much, much worse > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 But you've lived in what city? "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message news:kKOpj.17300$hF2.3938@trnddc02... > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:KqKdncSXBeVvOjranZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Oh, you live in the sticks? > > Currently. I like it better. Fewer assholes like you. > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:e2Npj.17272$hF2.2949@trnddc02... > >> > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:kpqdnfNprPrEBzranZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > wanna come up to Philly and I'll buy a drink with that 8k???? > >> > >> I doubt he wants a drink of sewer water. > >> > >> > >> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > >> > news:47a78ae2$0$25036$607ed4bc@cv.net... > >> >> robw, thr top[ posting retard wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to criminals.....and > > now > >> > I > >> >> > can only buy one gun a month... > >> >> > >> >> That would be a federal crime, you jackass. > >> >> Have you EVER paid attention? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Ya' wanna buy stock in my company????? > >> >> > >> >> You aren't smart enough to own a company. > >> >> Hells bells! > >> >> > >> >> You also lied when you said you won 8k on the Superbowl. > >> >> > >> >> Your so full of shit, you make your brown eye blue! > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 And the felon finds these recruits where? He already has people working for him. It might not be easy to find that many more people that can legally buy guns. It;s the inner city, not the burbs. "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message news:JvPpj.91276$K27.38256@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > robw wrote: > > The one gun question..... > > > > Let's see..... I'm a legal buyer who sells the guns to criminals. > > > > Hypothesis accepted. However, what you're describing is NOT a "straw" > sale/purchase. > > > Thugs, as you all so "with it" morons like to refer it to. > > > > Does it make you feel superior to denigrate others? > > Why do you feel the need to play the insult card? Because I'm > questioning your preconceptions? > > > If I'm buying 30 guns a month and selling them at 30 bucks [ profit ] I'm making 900 > > bucks a month. > > (you following this?) > > > > Seemingly much better than you are. > > > If I can only buy one handgun a month my profits kinda go down. > > > > Any questions? > > > > So the felon working the straw-purchase scheme recruits more people to > buy guns for him, increasing the number of criminals and amount of crime. > > > > > > > > > > > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > > news:s1Mpj.91016$L%6.45696@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> robw wrote: > >>> So what is your definition and you might want to pas it along to Lou of > >>> Lou's pawn Shop [ Lou's Loans ] who got closed for such sales. > >>> > >> Someone gives you the money and you buy a gun for them is a straw > >> purchase. Doesn't matter if it's one gun or several. > >> > >> In a straw-purchase scheme, a felon, barred by law from buying guns, > >> recruits someone who can legally buy guns. The intermediary fills out > >> forms, passes a background check, purchases the guns, then gives them to > >> the felon, who uses them to commit crimes or illegally resells them for > >> a big profit. > >> > >> Lou's Loans lost its license because of a multitude of violations of > >> federal gun laws, some of those violations were straw > >> sales/purchases--also there were illegal purchases and selling multiple > >> guns to a person without notifying the ATF in violation of the Federal > >> Multiple Handgun Reporting program. > >> > >> How does one gun a month eliminate "straw purchases"? > >> > >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>> news:ToLpj.90999$L%6.70175@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >>>> robw wrote: > >>>>> Well, let's see....... > >>>>> > >>>>> If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to people > > who > >>> are > >>>>> not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able to buy one > >>> gun a > >>>>> month? > >>>>> > >>>> That is not, by definition, a straw sale. > >>>> > >>>> Back to the original situation and question, how does 'one gun a month' > >>>> prevent straw buys? > >>>> > >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>>>> news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >>>>>> robw wrote: > >>>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it from the > >>> dealer. > >>>>>> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun Reporting > > program. > >>>>>> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any "multiple > >>>>>> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five consecutive > >>>>>> business days. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> And before you even start, this would not include people with > >>>>> collector's > >>>>>>> licenses. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's license"? Or > >>>>>> would this be a new requirement? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>> news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > >>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Straw buys are currently illegal. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> How do you propose to eliminate them? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >>>>>>>>>> robw wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself out. > >>>>>>>>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> You? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished? > >>> > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 I advocate a law that would significantly reduce the number of guns being sold to people who can not buy them legally themselves. "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message news:GBPpj.91279$K27.52336@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > robw wrote: > > Do the math and get back to me. > > > > Math? What math? > > Straw sales are illegal behavior, you advocate a law that doesn't > address 'straw' sales/purchases. > > > > > > > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > > news:zfMpj.91023$L%6.28591@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >> robw wrote: > >>> If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to criminals.....and now > > I > >>> can only buy one gun a month... > >>> > >> Which is not "straw" sales. It is a violation of federal law--dealing in > >> firearms without a license though and as such is already illegal. > >> > >> And if those 60 guns are handguns, then those sales also get reported to > >> the ATF in accordance with current federal law. > >> > >> > >>> Ya' wanna buy stock in my company????? > >>> > >> I have no desire to participate in your conspiracy to violate federal > >> firearms laws. > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message > >>> news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > >>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote: > >>>>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9 > >>>>> _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month. > >>>>> And will eliminate straw purchases....how???? > >>>>> > >>>> It won't. > >>>> > >>>> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical question, > >>>> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them > > to > >>>> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being > >>>> able to buy one gun a month?" > >>>> > >>>> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys". > >>> > > > > Quote
Guest robw Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Hint: we want to stop those felonies. "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message news:QDPpj.91281$K27.88919@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > robw wrote: > > Let's see, I sell 120 guns to illegal buyers. > > > > And each instance of you doing so is a felony. > > > Now I can only sell one. > > > > No, now you can only buy one from a FFL dealer. > > > You investing????? > > > > > > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message > > news:s3Npj.84358$ds2.38614@trnddc05... > >> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> news:v-SdnYIoNbMQBzranZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >>> Do the math and get back to me. > >> Ok, You engage in 120 federal felonies every month. The state passes a > > minor > >> law and suddenly you change your ways, seek God, and now only commit 2 > >> federal felonies each month. > >> > >> Right, and pigs fly. > >> > >> > > > > Quote
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:DeSdnZYLqrsoGTranZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com: > One a month sales would help hinder the supply???? Dealers are already required to report multiple sales within a week. One sale a month will not affect private sales only dealers who already have to report it. -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote
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