Is TERRORIST-HATER a pedophile?

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

Everytime TH posts some shit about the poor misunderstood pederasses getting shafted and their rights being infringed upon, I get the suspicion that he is a convicted pedo... What think ye?

[Komrade Vostok Hazard]

...just because someone doesn't jump on the P3DOS R UB3R 3V1L DOOD! bandwagon doesn't mean they're a pedophile themself. I actually believe that he just doesn't care to see some unconstitutional draconian policies, witch hunts or some sacrifice-freedom-for-security malarky spring up.

 

Yes pedophiles are sick fucks that need to be punished, but so are people that insist on torturing people to death. How does punishing the twisted by the means of twisted acts make those who are supposed to be delivering the punishment any better? It doesn't. It lowers them down to their level

[ImWithStupid]

I thought that I was the only one who was seeing a pattern with TH and defending pedophiles.

[ToriAllen]

...just because someone doesn't jump on the P3DOS R UB3R 3V1L DOOD! bandwagon doesn't mean they're a pedophile themself. I actually believe that he just doesn't care to see some unconstitutional draconian policies, witch hunts or some sacrifice-freedom-for-security malarky spring up.

This isn't the first time he has spoken on the behalf of the sick and twisted.

Yes pedophiles are sick fucks that need to be punished, but so are people that insist on torturing people to death. How does punishing the twisted by the means of twisted acts make those who are supposed to be delivering the punishment any better? It doesn't. It lowers them down to their level

No, but it sure makes the families of the victims feel better.

[snafu]

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Yes pedophiles are sick fucks that need to be punished, but so are people that insist on torturing people to death. How does punishing the twisted by the means of twisted acts make those who are supposed to be delivering the punishment any better? It doesn't. It lowers them down to their level

 

This is part of their punishment. How can you lower yourself to their level? They are the lowest creatures on the planet. By protecting our young doesn't lower us anywhere. These people are lucky to be walking around alive and free in my opinion.

 

TH is off his rocker some times I think. He wants American rights and our judicial system for terrorists and combatants but his handle is Terrorist Hater. Go figure.

[phreakwars]

Oh I don't think he is off his rocker at all. And that is pretty fucked up to ask people if they think he is a chimo. I think his philosophies lean more toward equality for EVERYBODY no matter what.

 

Sexual predators have a sickness, and for some reason, it is a sickness that makes them an outcast to society. And it is not fair to persecute one who has an ideal that says even this person with a sickness deserves equality.

 

And, pushing it forward a bit more

 

TH's real first name is "BEN" and he lives in Colorado. Doing a quick search for offenders named "BEN" in Colorado sure didn't give me a match for his LAST NAME, so evidence points to the assumption he is NOT a fucking CHIMO

 

THE RESULTS

 

That's just fucked up man !!

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[snafu]

Don't get me wrong. TH has many valid points. He just claims everybody that he doesn't like is a neo-____(you fill in the blank). He hates terrorist but obviously must hate Bush more. And yes he does try to back up Pedophiles rights. I don't think he is one he just can't see through his hatred to think rational sometimes.

[ToriAllen]

I’m not saying he is a pedophile, although I can’t imagine someone sane defending them. I believe some sex offenders are sick, but no sicker than a serial killer with a compulsion to kill. Most truly enjoy it, and very few seek any kind of help. Who will fight for the rights of the serial killer that wants to reform his ways? This ‘sickness’ that can not be helped or cured makes it even more important that we do not release them into society.

I think a lot of people misconstrue the word sickness, or illness. This is not some disease you contract, and it is not some disease you are born with. It is a mental illness that results from a combination of personality traits and environment. Some people grow up in an abusive environment and turn out fine, others don’t. To be honest, I wonder about the validity of calling it a sickness at all. I believe it to be on par with serial killing and I also believe it to have the same purpose, power and control. Why are the majority males in both cases?

[TerroristHater]

I thought that I was the only one who was seeing a pattern with TH and defending pedophiles.

 

There is no pattern. I am not a pedophile at all. I am a defender of civil rights and the basic liberties given to each American by the constitution. I will always be the enemy of ANYBODY who seeks to violate the protections provided by the Constitution of the United States of America.

 

I am sorry that some of you lack vision to see why segregating one section of society is so detrimental. You people are going to be responsible for allowing the government to rape the American public of its rights and protections.

 

As I see it, MRIH is silly, blind-assed Texas (No offense to you good texans) neo-con supporter. This means his opinions, though sometimes correct an in-line with good common sense, are mostly useless neo-con bullshit. As neo-cons and neo-libs are for sale to whichever big business has the most to offer them; and they often get 80% of their illegal campaign funds from these same big businesses, we must seek to prevent them from holding office of ANY kind.

 

I am sorry that you're unable to see why the rights of ALL AMERICANS must be respected. Furthermore, I am sorry you are unwilling to accept that all Americans have the right to freedom of religon regardless of what they have done. This country was founded on the freedom of religon, speech, press, and the right to peaceably gather for a redress of grievences. Only the neo-cons/neo-libs have issues with the fact that people have rights. True conservatives and true liberals never challenge these rights because they believe all Americans are entitled to them.

 

You people who cannot seem to understand that allowing the neo-nazis to steal liberty from one section of society gives them license to steal those same rights from ALL AMERICANS need to pull your heads out of your asses and take a breath of fresh air.

 

If we are going to protect the rights of the people, we have to protect the rights of ALL OF THE PEOPLE. We cannot set double standards and isolate certain sections of society. (Most people who support this kind of law also support slavery)

 

P.S. Thanks for the support PW and Komrade V.

 

[TerroristHater]

This is part of their punishment. How can you lower yourself to their level? They are the lowest creatures on the planet. By protecting our young doesn't lower us anywhere. These people are lucky to be walking around alive and free in my opinion.

 

TH is off his rocker some times I think. He wants American rights and our judicial system for terrorists and combatants but his handle is Terrorist Hater. Go figure.

 

No, Snafu, I do not want rights for terrorists. I never said that I did. I want President Bush to follow the law and stop acting like a dictator. The Supreme Court told him no and now he must comply. If he fails to comply, he needs to be impeached.

 

I find it insulting that you call me a terrorist supporter because I am a vetern of the armed forces. I fought for the rights you enjoy and that is why I will ALWAYS speak out when the neoscum attempts to steal them.

[TerroristHater]

This isn't the first time he has spoken on the behalf of the sick and twisted.

 

No, but it sure makes the families of the victims feel better.

I AM NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE SICK AND TWISTED!!!! I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF ALL AMERICANS. Unlike you, I do not discrimiate or seek to alienate and I WILL NOT tolerate neoscum making laws that are in direct violation of the 1st Ammendment of the U.S. Constitution.

 

 

[ToriAllen]

I AM NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE SICK AND TWISTED!!!! I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF ALL AMERICANS.

The law keeps the sick and twisted away from children. It serves to protect ALL AMERICANS. I do not see how this law could ever develop into anything more than what it is, and you have not offered up a viable progression into ‘stealing the liberties of the everyday man.’

 

Unlike you, I do not discrimiate or seek to alienate and I WILL NOT tolerate neoscum making laws that are in direct violation of the 1st Ammendment of the U.S. Constitution.

I do not discriminate or alienate based on sex, race, religion, or any choice or attribute that does not harm another human being. When it comes to violent criminals, I most certainly do choose to treat them differently. I do not want them around my children, nor would any parent.

 

I believe you missed my second post on the previous page...

[TerroristHater]

The law keeps the sick and twisted away from children. It serves to protect ALL AMERICANS. I do not see how this law could ever develop into anything more than what it is, and you have not offered up a viable progression into

[ImWithStupid]

There is no pattern. I am not a pedophile at all. I am a defender of civil rights and the basic liberties given to each American by the constitution. I will always be the enemy of ANYBODY who seeks to violate the protections provided by the Constitution of the United States of America.

 

It is you who has a "lack of intelligence" as you, put it in your negative rep comment you gave me.

 

What you see is not a pattern...but rather your own lack of intelligence.

 

I'm all for civil rights and liberties. I have voiced my disapproval of the illegal wiretaps performed by the NSA and other such violations. The difference is, when one commits a serious crime or felony and is CONVICTED of said crime they forfeit some of those basic rights and freedoms alloted to law-abiding, productive members of society that are not deemed to be a danger to other members.

 

The only way you get on the Sex Offender Registry is to commit and be convicted of a Sex Crime. At which time restrictions can be placed on your rights and liberties to protect society.

 

I understand your passion for Civil Rights to all but the law allows this and is in no way a violation of the First Amendment any more then felons not being able to possess firearms is a violation of the Second Amendment.

 

P.S. I didn't actually believe you were a pedophile, but you have defended this issue before.

[TerroristHater]

It is you who has a "lack of intelligence" as you, put it in your negative rep comment you gave me.

 

 

 

I'm all for civil rights and liberties. I have voiced my disapproval of the illegal wiretaps performed by the NSA and other such violations. The difference is, when one commits a serious crime or felony and is CONVICTED of said crime they forfeit some of those basic rights and freedoms alloted to law-abiding, productive members of society that are not deemed to be a danger to other members.

 

The only way you get on the Sex Offender Registry is to commit and be convicted of a Sex Crime. At which time restrictions can be placed on your rights and liberties to protect society.

 

I understand your passion for Civil Rights to all but the law allows this and is in no way a violation of the First Amendment any more then felons not being able to possess firearms is a violation of the Second Amendment.

 

P.S. I didn't actually believe you were a pedophile, but you have defended this issue before.

 

Even convicted felons are are entitled to practice their religon. That is not a right that is lost upon conviction. There are priests that work in the jails. The lawmakers are not allowed to prevent us from practicing our religon. The freedom of religon is one of the three primary ideals upon which this country was formed.

 

The government is barred from taking away freedom of religon by the Constitution. Sonny Purdue and his nazi, neo-con buddies seem to have forgotten that.

 

If they change the law so that it doesn't prevent church attendence, I will consider the matter closed. However, I am not going to allow the neoscum to forbid the free practice of religon.

 

[ToriAllen]

Torrie,

 

I didn't have a problem with that law until it sought to keep some people from going to church. That is where I drew the line.

TERRORISTA HATIER,

I seriously doubt that. You were looking for a reason.

 

The government CANNOT restrict church attendence PERIOD because the 1st Ammedment of the constitution says that no law can be made respecting the establishment of religon or the practice thereof. This neoscum law seeks to violate the 1st ammendment and that is unacceptable.

Church is not a requirement of the Christian religion. If they really feel they need to attend church they can turn on the TV on Sunday morning. There are at least fifteen channels that show church sermons. They are also free to start their own ‘no children allowed’ church. They have the right to practice their religion freely. Do you not understand what that amendment was meant for? We can not persecute them or have them killed because they are Christian. We can not tell them that they can not be Christian. We can tell them not to come to Church were children gather. Church is one of the places where children are the most vulnerable. We are supposed to trust those in our congregation because they believe in the values we believe in, so they must be good people, right? Children are taught not to trust stranger, but almost all who go to church are taught to trust the other members of the church.

 

This law, the way it stands now, is a direct violation of the Constitution and is therefore illegal. Sonny neonazi Purdue is a disgrace and must be forced to resign because he supports laws that violate the constitution.

It does not violate the constitution, and he did not activate the law all by his lonesome. He is not a disgrace, and I am proud to have a governor that does more than talk about what he is going to do.

 

The difference is, when one commits a serious crime or felony and is CONVICTED of said crime they forfeit some of those basic rights and freedoms alloted to law-abiding, productive members of society that are not deemed to be a danger to other members.

 

I understand your passion for Civil Rights to all but the law allows this and is in no way a violation of the First Amendment any more then felons not being able to possess firearms is a violation of the Second Amendment.

Great points, which he completely failed to address.

[ImWithStupid]

Even convicted felons are are entitled to practice their religon. That is not a right that is lost upon conviction. There are priests that work in the jails. The lawmakers are not allowed to prevent us from practicing our religon. The freedom of religon is one of the three primary ideals upon which this country was formed.

 

The government is barred from taking away freedom of religon by the Constitution. Sonny Purdue and his nazi, neo-con buddies seem to have forgotten that.

 

If they change the law so that it doesn't prevent church attendence, I will consider the matter closed. However, I am not going to allow the neoscum to forbid the free practice of religon.

 

 

The Constitution also says that the government is barred from taking away the right to vote and possess firearms. This right is only guaranteed to non-felons. It has been argued over and over and is upheld every time that convicted felons can be denied rights granted in the Constitution, Bill of Rights and other Amendments to the Constitution to protect society.

 

This law doesn't prevent them from practicing their religion it is in effect, to limit pedophile sex offenders from going to places that children are known to frequent.

 

The Federal Government isn't the only one that can limit rights guaranteed. The loss of ones right to vote when convicted of a felony is a limit set by the state and can be given back by the Govorner of the state of the conviction. This is a law at state level that can be imposed to protect members of society. I think this makes more sense then losing the right to vote. Who is being protected by felons not being able to vote.

 

If you can logically and intelligently convince me that this limit of the rights of pedophile is any different then the accepted limit of the right to possess firearms and vote by felons, I'll consider the matter closed also.

[TerroristHater]

TERRORISTA HATIER,

I seriously doubt that. You were looking for a reason.

 

 

Church is not a requirement of the Christian religion. If they really feel they need to attend church they can turn on the TV on Sunday morning. There are at least fifteen channels that show church sermons. They are also free to start their own

[ToriAllen]

You are wrong, IWS, that law DOES violate the constitution because it violates peoples right to worship (to attend church). So, yes, it does violate the constitution. I am sorry if you neo-cons are not big on individual rights.

 

People have the right to go to church and the government cannot take that right from them.

 

I'm sorry, IWS, but you are a neo-con.

You quoted me and replied to him...What is that all about?

 

They still have a right to worship, just not at a church where children will be. I would suspect the motives of any predator that wants to go to church.

The government can, absolutely, keep pedophile away from children. The sickos can worship from the comfort of their own home.

 

Is neo-con the only term you know? What is a neo-con TH? Do you even know, or do you used that term loosely to encompass anyone who disagrees with you.

[ImWithStupid]

You are wrong, IWS, that law DOES violate the constitution because it violates peoples right to worship (to attend church). So, yes, it does violate the constitution. I am sorry if you neo-cons are not big on individual rights.

 

People have the right to go to church and the government cannot take that right from them.

 

I'm sorry, IWS, but you are a neo-con.

 

Word for word...

 

First Amendment to the Constitution

 

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

 

Tell me where this says that you have the right to go to church. The pedophiles can still practice their religion.

 

Prohibits registered sex offenders from living, working, or loitering within 1,000 feet of any child care facility, church, school or "area where minors congregate." It also makes it illegal for child sex offenders or sexually dangerous predators to loiter in those areas.

 

 

loiter means "To stand idly about; linger aimlessly." To the best of my knowledge this doesn't even prevent attendance. That means there is "no rights violation" and your entire argument is a moot point, and while we're calling names this would make you a NEO-MORON.

[hugo]

TH does not even know what a neo-con is. Basically, neo-con philosophy concentrates on spreading American ideas and values throughout the globe. Neo-cons do not care much about domestic policy issues. This is a domestic policy issue. There are two major constitutional issues. The deprivation of private property rights and adding punishment to a criminals crime after his sentencing.

[ToriAllen]

Who is being protected by felons not being able to vote.

I would think anyone stupid enough to commit a felony has proven themselves incapable of making a rational decision and therefore should not be allowed to vote. Stupid people are more likely to elect other stupid people, because they can relate.

[ImWithStupid]

I would think anyone stupid enough to commit a felony has proven themselves incapable of making a rational decision and therefore should not be allowed to vote. Stupid people are more likely to elect other stupid people, because they can relate.

 

I understand the reason behind it. I was just illustrating how the limit of the movement of pedophiles, to protect society, makes more sense then losing the right to vote, when comparing the imediate impact of the consequences of not limiting that movement, on society.

[ToriAllen]

I understand the reason behind it. I was just illustrating how the limit of the movement of pedophiles, to protect society, makes more sense then losing the right to vote, when comparing the imediate impact of the consequences of not limiting that movement, on society.

I know, but I had to say something.

 

I see nothing wrong with this law. The law does not add a punishment to a specific criminal. It is simply a restriction on where all child molesters can hang out to watch little kids.

[TerroristHater]

You quoted me and replied to him...What is that all about?

 

They still have a right to worship, just not at a church where children will be. I would suspect the motives of any predator that wants to go to church.

The government can, absolutely, keep pedophile away from children. The sickos can worship from the comfort of their own home.

 

Is neo-con the only term you know? What is a neo-con TH? Do you even know, or do you used that term loosely to encompass anyone who disagrees with you.

They do have a right to be in a church. The governemnt CANNOT make laws that restrict the ESTABLISHMENT OR PRACTICE THEREOF. That means that no laws restricing church attendence are legal.

 

I have a degree in a law-related field, Torrie, I have researched this, Florida has a similar law that failed to stay on the books until it was changed in a manner which excluded churches.

 

Neocons have a very hard time understanding that they cannot violate the constitution and/or peoples rights. While I recognize this a law made with the best of intentions, I can tell you for a given fact that this law is in violation of the 1st ammendment of the constitution.

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As I tried to explain to MRIH, these types of laws are never a good idea because they are used as a launching point. It started in Florida (another neo-con state) and it spread to Georgia.

 

Read the 1st ammendment of the U.S. Constitution and carefully weigh the body of the text. It specifically forbids laws being made, which interfere with establishment or practice of religon.

 

Neo-cons do not believe in individual rights and liberties and they do not believe in freedom. Neo-cons/neo-libs are a collection of indivduals who were spawned from british loyalist seed and should've gone back to england. They never accepted that America is a FREE COUNTRY. These people honestly believe that Americans should be RULED rather then governed.

 

The original republicans were not known as republicans but rather as "FEDERALISTS" and these people were so hated by the people in the original colonies that there were only two elected (George Washington and John Quincy Adams). After they learned that their fellow colonists would never elect a federalist these people changed their party monaker to "REPUBLICAN".

 

I am sorry that so many of you on here are a confused in the area of constitutional law. I am sorry that MRIH is so rude (he's cool most of the time) as to call me a chumo simply because I stood up for the rights of ALL AMERICANS. Some Americans are bad people, but that doesn't mean they are not entitled to practice religon in anyway they chose or to attend whatever church they so choose.

 

These laws are the result of exsessive neo-con interference in state affiars. It's a sad truth, but it is a truth nonetheless.

 

Of all people, Torrie, you should be aware of how important it is to stand up to any governing body that attempts to steal essential liberty from its citizens. You come from a military family and I expect you to understand the meaning of words like sacrifice, honor, and liberty. If you don't know their true meaning yet, you will once you get to boot camp.