Guest RM v2.0 Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message news:3vudnV7uRY23u3DanZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Oh really? > > How'd that wok out in Fla at that Wendy's??? > > The town had concealed carry. > Did the guy seem to care??? > > Problem is and always will be that you cant know whom it deterred, only whom it didnt. Without CCW there might have been 3 workplace shooting instead of 1, we cant know. There will always be people who dont care and wont be stopped. Quote
Guest RM v2.0 Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 "stickyw" <stickyweather@aol.com> wrote in message news:bcd488a9-8b65-49ba-91b7-80c7423ba74a@c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > Sure, blame the guns. Its never the killer's fault. The gun sought him out and talked him into it. He was originally just going to key the cars but that evil GUN made him do it. Quote
Guest Dave Bugg Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 robw wrote: > Oh really? > > How'd that wok out in Fla at that Wendy's??? Were there any folks with a concealed weapon there? If there were, it wouldn't have been a tragedy or near the same level of tragedy. > The town had concealed carry. > Did the guy seem to care??? If you re-read what was written, there was nothing stated about a deterrence, just that it could have been cut short. Now, given the Virginia Tech "Gun-Free Zone", how'd that work out? It didn't seem that guy seemed to care. I carry a gun, cause I can't carry a police officer. -- Dave "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Quote
Guest tankfixer Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 In article <md5pu39riubocsud7v3njah132o5pnnfc1@4ax.com>, rgdenney@yahoo.com says... > > 3 killed in Ga. hospital shooting spree Celebrating a loon makes you one my friend Quote
Guest tankfixer Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 In article <-P2dnZcokvUzKHHanZ2dnUVZ8h-dnZ2d@bt.com>, survivor@northland.com says... > > <knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ae861c48-acf7-4354-90c5-> > > If there was gun at the nurses station and training of everyone was > > the norm he never would have gotten out of there. > > If he knew that people trained in firearms were everywhere and a gun > > could be anywhere to be used to protect those he went after, he never > > would have gone in. > > More guns and a populace trained in using them will stop these nutjobs. > > Wrong ,you would just have more morons settling petty disagreements and > grudges with gunfire. That is the same argument the anti crowd tried when concealed carry laws were proposed. That gunfights would break out everywhere. Interestingly enough they were wrong.... Quote
Guest AstonBarrett Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Dave Bugg wrote: > robw wrote: > >>Oh really? >> >>How'd that wok out in Fla at that Wendy's??? > > > Were there any folks with a concealed weapon there? If there were, it > wouldn't have been a tragedy or near the same level of tragedy. > > >>The town had concealed carry. >>Did the guy seem to care??? > > > If you re-read what was written, there was nothing stated about a > deterrence, just that it could have been cut short. > > Now, given the Virginia Tech "Gun-Free Zone", how'd that work out? It didn't > seem that guy seemed to care. > > I carry a gun, cause I can't carry a police officer. Cops are rather heavy, what with all the donuts they eat. Quote
Guest \The Rifleman\ Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 "tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.kat.army.mil> wrote in message news:MPG.2256e3ce23a63660989e28@nntp.earthlink.net... > In article <-P2dnZcokvUzKHHanZ2dnUVZ8h-dnZ2d@bt.com>, > survivor@northland.com says... >> >> <knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ae861c48-acf7-4354-90c5-> >> > If there was gun at the nurses station and training of everyone was >> > the norm he never would have gotten out of there. >> > If he knew that people trained in firearms were everywhere and a gun >> > could be anywhere to be used to protect those he went after, he never >> > would have gone in. >> > More guns and a populace trained in using them will stop these nutjobs. >> >> Wrong ,you would just have more morons settling petty disagreements and >> grudges with gunfire. > > That is the same argument the anti crowd tried when concealed carry laws > were proposed. > That gunfights would break out everywhere. > Interestingly enough they were wrong.... and 30,000 yanks a year dont die from gun shot wounds, yeah dream on boys. Quote
Guest \The Rifleman\ Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 "RM v2.0" <Blah@spam.sucks> wrote in message news:8d7Hj.810081$X56.642711@fe06.news.easynews.com... >>>The purpose of guns is to prevent people such as yourself from >>>exercising political power. >> >> Now I see. So you don't really believe in any form of democracy, >> only your ability to own firearms to"protect" yourselves from >> "tyrants" like myself, correct? >> >> Clue: Your "right" to own a gun stops at my and all other person's >> rights to stay safe, alive and unharmed by gunfire from you cretins. > > 100% of the innocent population is and will be completely safe from all of > my guns. So is my "right" safe? Unless they diss you of course Quote
Guest tankfixer Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 In article <uLmdncJwsIW92nDanZ2dnUVZ8qClnZ2d@bt.com>, survivor@northland.com says... > > "tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.kat.army.mil> wrote in message > news:MPG.2256e3ce23a63660989e28@nntp.earthlink.net... > > In article <-P2dnZcokvUzKHHanZ2dnUVZ8h-dnZ2d@bt.com>, > > survivor@northland.com says... > >> > >> <knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ae861c48-acf7-4354-90c5-> > >> > If there was gun at the nurses station and training of everyone was > >> > the norm he never would have gotten out of there. > >> > If he knew that people trained in firearms were everywhere and a gun > >> > could be anywhere to be used to protect those he went after, he never > >> > would have gone in. > >> > More guns and a populace trained in using them will stop these nutjobs. > >> > >> Wrong ,you would just have more morons settling petty disagreements and > >> grudges with gunfire. > > > > That is the same argument the anti crowd tried when concealed carry laws > > were proposed. > > That gunfights would break out everywhere. > > Interestingly enough they were wrong.... > > and 30,000 yanks a year dont die from gun shot wounds, yeah dream on boys. > criminals shooting each other. Quote
Guest tankfixer Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 In article <b5mdnaJep-3G2nDanZ2dnUVZ8uqdnZ2d@bt.com>, survivor@northland.com says... > > "RM v2.0" <Blah@spam.sucks> wrote in message > news:8d7Hj.810081$X56.642711@fe06.news.easynews.com... > >>>The purpose of guns is to prevent people such as yourself from > >>>exercising political power. > >> > >> Now I see. So you don't really believe in any form of democracy, > >> only your ability to own firearms to"protect" yourselves from > >> "tyrants" like myself, correct? > >> > >> Clue: Your "right" to own a gun stops at my and all other person's > >> rights to stay safe, alive and unharmed by gunfire from you cretins. > > > > 100% of the innocent population is and will be completely safe from all of > > my guns. So is my "right" safe? > Unless they diss you of course somebody watches too many movies.. Quote
Guest Dave Bugg Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 AstonBarrett wrote: > Dave Bugg wrote: > >> robw wrote: >> >>> Oh really? >>> >>> How'd that wok out in Fla at that Wendy's??? >> >> >> Were there any folks with a concealed weapon there? If there were, it >> wouldn't have been a tragedy or near the same level of tragedy. >> >> >>> The town had concealed carry. >>> Did the guy seem to care??? >> >> >> If you re-read what was written, there was nothing stated about a >> deterrence, just that it could have been cut short. >> >> Now, given the Virginia Tech "Gun-Free Zone", how'd that work out? >> It didn't seem that guy seemed to care. >> >> I carry a gun, cause I can't carry a police officer. > > Cops are rather heavy, what with all the donuts they eat. Yeah. Re-loading is a bear. -- Dave "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Quote
Guest Roger Denney Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:14:13 -0700, tankfixer <paul.carrier@us.kat.army.mil> wrote: >In article <md5pu39riubocsud7v3njah132o5pnnfc1@4ax.com>, >rgdenney@yahoo.com says... >> >> 3 killed in Ga. hospital shooting spree > >Celebrating a loon makes you one my friend Who is "celebrating"? I am reporting the true-crime news about the blood-soaked American gun-culture and the weapons of mass murder that they wordship. Quote
Guest Roger Denney Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:02:15 -0700 (PDT), stickyw <stickyweather@aol.com> wrote: >Sure, blame the guns. Its never the killer's fault. Isn't it odd that so many Americans turn to guns to kill one another? The NRA and all their members have blood running off their hands and out the doors all the way to Congress. But not for long !! <bg> Quote
Guest AstonBarrett Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 "The Rifleman" wrote: > and 30,000 yanks a year dont die from gun shot wounds, yeah dream on boys. 30K USA Citizens per year do Not! Quote
Guest AstonBarrett Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 "The Rifleman" wrote: > "RM v2.0" <Blah@spam.sucks> wrote: >>100% of the innocent population is and will be completely safe from all of >>my guns. So is my "right" safe? > > Unless they diss you of course Explain "diss", Rifleman. I have many firearms, and had many disagreements with many people. Not ONCE have I ever "brandished" a firearm, or used one to threaten another person with them, or any other type of item that could be used as a weapon. Are you saying that is what YOU would do if YOU got into a arguement? Quote
Guest Roger Denney Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:29:35 -0000, "\"The Rifleman\"" <survivor@northland.com> wrote: > >"tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.kat.army.mil> wrote in message >news:MPG.2256e3ce23a63660989e28@nntp.earthlink.net... >> In article <-P2dnZcokvUzKHHanZ2dnUVZ8h-dnZ2d@bt.com>, >> survivor@northland.com says... >>> >>> <knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ae861c48-acf7-4354-90c5-> >>> > If there was gun at the nurses station and training of everyone was >>> > the norm he never would have gotten out of there. >>> > If he knew that people trained in firearms were everywhere and a gun >>> > could be anywhere to be used to protect those he went after, he never >>> > would have gone in. >>> > More guns and a populace trained in using them will stop these nutjobs. >>> >>> Wrong ,you would just have more morons settling petty disagreements and >>> grudges with gunfire. >> >> That is the same argument the anti crowd tried when concealed carry laws >> were proposed. >> That gunfights would break out everywhere. >> Interestingly enough they were wrong.... > >and 30,000 yanks a year dont die from gun shot wounds, yeah dream on boys. > Can you imagine the chaos if even half the people in that hospital were packing hand-guns? Doctors, nurses, gun-loons; all shooting at each other, but that's what the gun-loons want: blood-soaked, bullet-ridden carcasses make them smile with joy....until its one of their own kinfolk that gets shot to death by thier little toys. Quote
Guest Roger Denney Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:09:00 -0500, "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote: >> If there was gun at the nurses station and training of everyone was >> the norm he never would have gotten out of there. >> If he knew that people trained in firearms were everywhere and a gun >> could be anywhere to be used to protect those he went after, he never >> would have gone in. >> More guns and a populace trained in using them will stop these nutjobs. >Oh really? > >How'd that wok out in Fla at that Wendy's??? > >The town had concealed carry. >Did the guy seem to care??? > Of course the gun-goons always ignore these facts....well, any facts that don't support their ideal notions of everyone packing a firearm, that is. Whatever it takes to keep thier guns, it matter not one bit who gets killed and maimed, as long as they have a "right" to own a gun. Quote
Guest nc@gntbcr.com Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:29:35 -0000, "\"The Rifleman\"" <survivor@northland.com> wrote: >and 30,000 yanks a year dont die from gun shot wounds, yeah dream on boys. > OH MY GAWD! At that rate, all us "yanks" will be dead of gun shots in only 20,000 years. (more than half the "gun dead" are from suicide) Quote
Guest tankfixer Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 In article <4djqu3h0gn75fm61fil9257co7op7b1h6g@4ax.com>, rgdenney@yahoo.com says... > On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:14:13 -0700, tankfixer > <paul.carrier@us.kat.army.mil> wrote: > > >In article <md5pu39riubocsud7v3njah132o5pnnfc1@4ax.com>, > >rgdenney@yahoo.com says... > >> > >> 3 killed in Ga. hospital shooting spree > > > >Celebrating a loon makes you one my friend > > Who is "celebrating"? You are. > > I am reporting the true-crime news about the blood-soaked American > gun-culture and the weapons of mass murder that they wordship. Quote
Guest Stephan Rothstein Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 AstonBarrett wrote: > Dave Bugg wrote: > >> robw wrote: >> >>> Oh really? >>> >>> How'd that wok out in Fla at that Wendy's??? >> >> >> Were there any folks with a concealed weapon there? If there were, it >> wouldn't have been a tragedy or near the same level of tragedy. >> >> >>> The town had concealed carry. >>> Did the guy seem to care??? >> >> >> If you re-read what was written, there was nothing stated about a >> deterrence, just that it could have been cut short. >> >> Now, given the Virginia Tech "Gun-Free Zone", how'd that work out? It >> didn't seem that guy seemed to care. >> >> I carry a gun, cause I can't carry a police officer. > > Cops are rather heavy, what with all the donuts they eat. Hey, I resemble that remark. But I am losing weight and in a fitness program now. I just went through a law enforcement fitness coordinators program to help lead our agency back into fitness standards. But I do miss the donuts. Steve Rothstein Quote
Guest Don Staples Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 "Roger Denney" <rgdenney@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4djqu3h0gn75fm61fil9257co7op7b1h6g@4ax.com... > On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:14:13 -0700, tankfixer > <paul.carrier@us.kat.army.mil> wrote: > >>In article <md5pu39riubocsud7v3njah132o5pnnfc1@4ax.com>, >>rgdenney@yahoo.com says... >>> >>> 3 killed in Ga. hospital shooting spree >> >>Celebrating a loon makes you one my friend > > Who is "celebrating"? > > I am reporting the true-crime news about the blood-soaked American > gun-culture and the weapons of mass murder that they wordship. NO, you are just another dumb ass subject who cannot accept the consequences of freedom. Quote
Guest Dave Bugg Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Stephan Rothstein wrote: > AstonBarrett wrote: >> Dave Bugg wrote: >> >>> robw wrote: >>> >>>> Oh really? >>>> >>>> How'd that wok out in Fla at that Wendy's??? >>> >>> >>> Were there any folks with a concealed weapon there? If there were, >>> it wouldn't have been a tragedy or near the same level of tragedy. >>> >>> >>>> The town had concealed carry. >>>> Did the guy seem to care??? >>> >>> >>> If you re-read what was written, there was nothing stated about a >>> deterrence, just that it could have been cut short. >>> >>> Now, given the Virginia Tech "Gun-Free Zone", how'd that work out? >>> It didn't seem that guy seemed to care. >>> >>> I carry a gun, cause I can't carry a police officer. >> >> Cops are rather heavy, what with all the donuts they eat. > > Hey, I resemble that remark. > > But I am losing weight and in a fitness program now. I just went > through a law enforcement fitness coordinators program to help lead > our agency back into fitness standards. > > But I do miss the donuts. <to the tune of 'He Ain't Heavy'> Steve ain't heavy, he's just bulky. :-) -- Dave "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Quote
Guest Bert Hyman Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 rgdenney@yahoo.com (Roger Denney) wrote in news:4djqu3h0gn75fm61fil9257co7op7b1h6g@4ax.com: > Who is "celebrating"? Why, you are. -- Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com Quote
Guest tankfixer Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 In article <2sjqu35n1gqi3qs33fitajn15tpgiirja6@4ax.com>, rgdenney@yahoo.com says... > > Doctors, nurses, gun-loons; all shooting at each other, but that's > what the gun-loons want: blood-soaked, bullet-ridden carcasses make > them smile with joy....until its one of their own kinfolk that gets > shot to death by thier little toys. > Your fascination with killing would be good subject material for a toxicology major to study... Quote
Guest Dave Bugg Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 tankfixer wrote: > In article <2sjqu35n1gqi3qs33fitajn15tpgiirja6@4ax.com>, > rgdenney@yahoo.com says... >> >> Doctors, nurses, gun-loons; all shooting at each other, but that's >> what the gun-loons want: blood-soaked, bullet-ridden carcasses make >> them smile with joy....until its one of their own kinfolk that gets >> shot to death by thier little toys. >> > > > Your fascination with killing would be good subject material for a > toxicology major to study... It's a good thing that that bubba doesn't have a gun. Too many video games, I suspect. I agree with you, he'd make a good pathopsychological case study. -- Dave "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Quote
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