Three People Shot to Death by Gun-Goon in Ga. Hospital Shooting Spree

March 28, 2008

"The Rifleman" wrote:

>>

>> That is the same argument the anti crowd tried when concealed carry

>> laws were proposed.

>> That gunfights would break out everywhere.

>> Interestingly enough they were wrong....

>

> and 30,000 yanks a year dont die from gun shot wounds, yeah dream on

> boys.

That's not nearly enough.

With a country in excess of 300 million, there's an awful lot of people who

need killin'.

March 28, 2008

"The Rifleman" wrote:

> "strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message

> news:1206691621_105@isp.n...

>> The purpose of guns is to prevent people such as yourself from

>> exercising political power.

>>

>>> -Roger

> Thats what the Iraqis and Afghans are doing to the yanks but for some reason

> the yanks disagree when someone has the guns.

>

It's not the "yanks", it's the treasonous government.

You'd do well to pay attention to your own precarious position.

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March 28, 2008

Roger Denney wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:02:15 -0700 (PDT), stickyw

> <stickyweather@aol.com> wrote:

>

>>Sure, blame the guns. Its never the killer's fault.

>

> Isn't it odd that so many Americans turn to guns to kill one another?

It is odd that you believe that.

So very few Americans do, Roger.

What is more odd, is that YOU use the "X No Archive:yes" function.

THAT is the mark of a true COWARD.

March 28, 2008

Dave Bugg wrote:

Re your sig:

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,

butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance

accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,

give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new

problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight

efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

I ran across something similar:

"Women want men who can sail ships, set broken bones, plant crops, cook

dinner, write a masterpiece, solve equations, invent and repair machines,

teach a child, help a friend, respect and love a woman (and be respected and

loved by her), play sports, make a just decision, climb a volcano, dress

plainly and elegantly, defeat oppression with a band of brothers, never say

die but die bravely, dance willingly, retain a sense of humour, treat

animals kindly, love God, speak honestly, and act resourcefully in the face

of adversity. . ."

Or at least Spartan women do...

March 28, 2008

On Mar 28, 1:18 am, "Maximo Gravaticus" <m...@woh.rr.com> wrote:

> <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>

> news:ae861c48-acf7-4354-90c5-a1701830f92a@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

>

> > On Mar 27, 11:59 pm, Roger Denney <rgden...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080328/ap_on_re_us/hospital_shootings

>

> >> 3 killed in Ga. hospital shooting spree

>

> >> By KATE BRUMBACK,

>

> >> Associated Press Writer Thu Mar 27, 2008.

>

> >> COLUMBUS, Ga. - A retired teacher bearing a grudge over his mother's

> >> treatment at the hospital where she died fatally shot one of her

> >> nurses, another employee and a man outside Thursday before police shot

> >> him, authorities said.

>

> >> Charles Johnston, 63, is being charged with murder and will be turned

> >> over to police after an overnight stay in another hospital, where he

> >> was treated for a shoulder wound, Police Chief Ricky Boren said.

>

> >> The chief said the gunman arrived at Doctors Hospital with three

> >> pistols, including a 9mm automatic and a .38-caliber revolver, and

> >> went to the fifth-floor intensive care unit where his mother had been

> >> in 2004.

>

> >> "He blamed a male nurse. He didn't think his mother had been properly

> >> cared for," Boren said.

>

> >> Boren gave the following account:

>

> >> Johnston overheard someone call the nurse's name, then waited until he

> >> went into an empty room, where he confronted him, saying: "Do you

> >> remember me? Do you remember my mother?"

>

> >> He shot him once; the nurse started to run, then fell in the hall

> >> after being shot again.

>

> >> When the gunman started to leave, an administrative secretary entered

> >> the area, saying, "Where did he go?" As he rounded a corner, he was

> >> shot, too, Boren said.

>

> >> The gunman started to take an elevator but finding it too slow went

> >> down the stairs.

>

> >> As he was getting into his car in the parking lot, another car pulled

> >> in facing his, and the driver was shot as he got out of the vehicle.

> >> That man died later.

>

> >> A city deputy marshal arrived in the parking lot; he fired at her and

> >> she shot back, but neither was hit. A plainclothes detective blocked

> >> the gunman's car, and when Johnston pulled a gun, the detective shot

> >> him, Boren said.

>

> >> Johnston, who used to teach school, appears to be in satisfactory

> >> condition after surgery, Boren said.

>

> >> Columbus is in western Georgia, on the Alabama line.

>

> >> ===================================================

> >> Denneys' Comments:

>

> >> Once again, dear readers, we see what firearms do in the "land of

> >> the "spree"...err..I mean "free" (to kill) zone..err. I mean "nation".

>

> >> Yes, we can continue this outrageous farce that guns "protect" us,

> >> as these NRA gun freaks would have you and I believe, but perhaps,

> >> if these three innocent victims of US gun violence could still talk,

> >> instead of cooling their heels forever, first in the morgue and

> >> thence onto their gravesites, the might speak out very differently

> >> about the state of American gun control laws, in the 21st century.

>

> >> -Roger

>

> > If there was gun at the nurses station and training of everyone was

> > the norm he never would have gotten out of there.

>

> Thats the dumbest thing I've eever heard.

>

> > If he knew that people trained in firearms were everywhere and a gun

> > could be anywhere to be used to protect those he went after, he never

> > would have gone in.

>

> Of course you're wrong. \

No I'm not.

If there were "Another person intent on killing for revenge shot down

by trained gun toting citizen." news stories on the TV every day

instead of, "Another crazed gunman kills defenseless children" there

wouldn't be so many people not thinking "logically."

>A person bent on commiting an insane act does not

> use common logic.

Especially when they have no fear of reprecussions to themselves.

>You act as if the man was thinking clearly or rationaly.

He had the power and KNEW NO ONE ELSE DID.

> If he was clear and rational enough to use common logic, he would not not

> have even considered doing what he did. It would have never entered his

> mind.

>

Nor wouldit if he saw gn toting nurses.

> > More guns and a populace trained in using them will stop these nutjobs.

>

> Wrong again.

Why don't we try it and see?

>It's time to start taking guns from gun nuts,

By who's definition?

>to may innocent

> people have to suffer and die so you can pray for more guns in the hands of

> idiots.

Many of which would be alive if they or someone close by had been

packing heat.

>Judging by your own lack of logic or even common sense, I would say

> you're no doubt a ticking time bomb ready to go off and kill a few people in

> the name of your guns.

Just gives me more reason to kill fascists like you who label people

something they are not and then try to steal their property and

violate their right to protect themselves.

>It's past time to relieve people like you of your

> weapons.

Better take my girlfriend's 45 too then because she will shoot you if

you try to take mine.

>To may innocent people die for you insane love of guns.

My love of guns has never hurt a soul.

March 28, 2008

Roger Denney wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:16:20 -0500, strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>

> wrote:

>

>> Roger Denney wrote:

>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080328/ap_on_re_us/hospital_shootings

>>>

>>> 3 killed in Ga. hospital shooting spree

>>>

>>> By KATE BRUMBACK,

>>>

>>> Associated Press Writer Thu Mar 27, 2008.

>>>

>>> COLUMBUS, Ga. - A retired teacher bearing a grudge over his mother's

>>> treatment at the hospital where she died fatally shot one of her

>>> nurses, another employee and a man outside Thursday before police shot

>>> him, authorities said.

>>>

>>> Charles Johnston, 63, is being charged with murder and will be turned

>>> over to police after an overnight stay in another hospital, where he

>>> was treated for a shoulder wound, Police Chief Ricky Boren said.

>>>

>>> The chief said the gunman arrived at Doctors Hospital with three

>>> pistols, including a 9mm automatic and a .38-caliber revolver, and

>>> went to the fifth-floor intensive care unit where his mother had been

>>> in 2004.

>>>

>>> "He blamed a male nurse. He didn't think his mother had been properly

>>> cared for," Boren said.

>>>

>>> Boren gave the following account:

>>>

>>> Johnston overheard someone call the nurse's name, then waited until he

>>> went into an empty room, where he confronted him, saying: "Do you

>>> remember me? Do you remember my mother?"

>>>

>>> He shot him once; the nurse started to run, then fell in the hall

>>> after being shot again.

>>>

>>> When the gunman started to leave, an administrative secretary entered

>>> the area, saying, "Where did he go?" As he rounded a corner, he was

>>> shot, too, Boren said.

>>>

>>> The gunman started to take an elevator but finding it too slow went

>>> down the stairs.

>>>

>>> As he was getting into his car in the parking lot, another car pulled

>>> in facing his, and the driver was shot as he got out of the vehicle.

>>> That man died later.

>>>

>>> A city deputy marshal arrived in the parking lot; he fired at her and

>>> she shot back, but neither was hit. A plainclothes detective blocked

>>> the gunman's car, and when Johnston pulled a gun, the detective shot

>>> him, Boren said.

>>>

>>> Johnston, who used to teach school, appears to be in satisfactory

>>> condition after surgery, Boren said.

>>>

>>> Columbus is in western Georgia, on the Alabama line.

>>>

>>> ===================================================

>>> Denneys' Comments:

>>>

>>> Once again, dear readers, we see what firearms do in the "land of

>>> the "spree"...err..I mean "free" (to kill) zone..err. I mean "nation".

>>>

>> Yes. The freedom to defend against tyrants.

>

> When did you plan on exercising that right?

>>> Yes, we can continue this outrageous farce that guns "protect" us,

>>> as these NRA gun freaks would have you and I believe, but perhaps,

>>> if these three innocent victims of US gun violence could still talk,

>>> instead of cooling their heels forever, first in the morgue and

>>> thence onto their gravesites, the might speak out very differently

>>> about the state of American gun control laws, in the 21st century.

>>>

>> That's the argument Stalin used to confiscate weapons. Soon

>> after the purges began which resulted in about 50,000,000

>> killed and many tortured and enslaved.

>

> No proof of that is made available, of course, as usual.

>

> Just a simpleton's mantra that you gun-loons pass around to make

> you feel better about all the bloody gun-deaths you are responsible

> for in this country alone.

>

>> The purpose of guns is to prevent people such as yourself from

>> exercising political power.

>

> Now I see. So you don't really believe in any form of democracy,

> only your ability to own firearms to"protect" yourselves from

> "tyrants" like myself, correct?

>

> Clue: Your "right" to own a gun stops at my and all other person's

> rights to stay safe, alive and unharmed by gunfire from you cretins.

>

You have no right "to stay safe, alive and unharmed by gunfire."

You cannot have a right which obligates other people to protect

you.

You have a right to protect yourself, but, you can't do that by

taking my stuff. If you do try to take my stuff, I then have the

right to stop you.

Now, if you are smart, you'll stop threatening people with

disarmament and start addressing the problems concerning

personal and national survival.

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March 28, 2008

On Mar 28, 2:09 am, "\"The Rifleman\"" <survi...@northland.com> wrote:

> <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ae861c48-acf7-4354-90c5->

> > If there was gun at the nurses station and training of everyone was

> > the norm he never would have gotten out of there.

> > If he knew that people trained in firearms were everywhere and a gun

> > could be anywhere to be used to protect those he went after, he never

> > would have gone in.

> > More guns and a populace trained in using them will stop these nutjobs.

>

> Wrong ,you would just have more morons settling petty disagreements and

> grudges with gunfire.

Well, if they want to agree to do that in a controlled place let them.

Duels worked quite well for many years.

March 28, 2008

On Mar 28, 12:29 pm, "\"The Rifleman\"" <survi...@northland.com>

wrote:

> "tankfixer" <paul.carr...@us.kat.army.mil> wrote in message

>

> news:MPG.2256e3ce23a63660989e28@nntp.earthlink.net...

>

> > In article <-P2dnZcokvUzKHHanZ2dnUVZ8h-dn...@bt.com>,

> > survi...@northland.com says...

>

> >> <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ae861c48-acf7-4354-90c5->

> >> > If there was gun at the nurses station and training of everyone was

> >> > the norm he never would have gotten out of there.

> >> > If he knew that people trained in firearms were everywhere and a gun

> >> > could be anywhere to be used to protect those he went after, he never

> >> > would have gone in.

> >> > More guns and a populace trained in using them will stop these nutjobs.

>

> >> Wrong ,you would just have more morons settling petty disagreements and

> >> grudges with gunfire.

>

> > That is the same argument the anti crowd tried when concealed carry laws

> > were proposed.

> > That gunfights would break out everywhere.

> > Interestingly enough they were wrong....

>

> and 30,000 yanks a year dont die from gun shot wounds, yeah dream on boys.

You have cite for this number of "deaths?"

I'd be surprised if it's 3,000.

But then again Dr,'s only kill 350,000 a year.

March 28, 2008

Stephan Rothstein wrote:

> AstonBarrett wrote:

>

>> Dave Bugg wrote:

>>

>>> robw wrote:

>>>

>>>> Oh really?

>>>>

>>>> How'd that wok out in Fla at that Wendy's???

>>>

>>> Were there any folks with a concealed weapon there? If there were, it

>>> wouldn't have been a tragedy or near the same level of tragedy.

>>>

>>>> The town had concealed carry.

>>>> Did the guy seem to care???

>>>

>>> If you re-read what was written, there was nothing stated about a

>>> deterrence, just that it could have been cut short.

>>>

>>> Now, given the Virginia Tech "Gun-Free Zone", how'd that work out? It

>>> didn't seem that guy seemed to care.

>>>

>>> I carry a gun, cause I can't carry a police officer.

>>

>> Cops are rather heavy, what with all the donuts they eat.

>

> Hey, I resemble that remark.

See how you are?

March 28, 2008

On Mar 28, 1:09 pm, Roger Denney <rgden...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:29:35 -0000, "\"The Rifleman\""

>

> <survi...@northland.com> wrote:

>

> >"tankfixer" <paul.carr...@us.kat.army.mil> wrote in message

> >news:MPG.2256e3ce23a63660989e28@nntp.earthlink.net...

> >> In article <-P2dnZcokvUzKHHanZ2dnUVZ8h-dn...@bt.com>,

> >> survi...@northland.com says...

>

> >>> <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ae861c48-acf7-4354-90c5->

> >>> > If there was gun at the nurses station and training of everyone was

> >>> > the norm he never would have gotten out of there.

> >>> > If he knew that people trained in firearms were everywhere and a gun

> >>> > could be anywhere to be used to protect those he went after, he never

> >>> > would have gone in.

> >>> > More guns and a populace trained in using them will stop these nutjobs.

>

> >>> Wrong ,you would just have more morons settling petty disagreements and

> >>> grudges with gunfire.

>

> >> That is the same argument the anti crowd tried when concealed carry laws

> >> were proposed.

> >> That gunfights would break out everywhere.

> >> Interestingly enough they were wrong....

>

> >and 30,000 yanks a year dont die from gun shot wounds, yeah dream on boys.

>

> Can you imagine the chaos if even half the people in that hospital

> were packing hand-guns?

>

Could just as easily be tranquilizer darts.

> Doctors, nurses, gun-loons; all shooting at each other, but that's

> what the gun-loons want: blood-soaked, bullet-ridden carcasses make

> them smile with joy....until its one of their own kinfolk that gets

> shot to death by thier little toys.

How do you know so much about what "gun loons want?"

March 28, 2008

"The Rifleman" wrote:

> <knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ae861c48-acf7-4354-90c5->

>> If there was gun at the nurses station and training of everyone was

>> the norm he never would have gotten out of there.

>> If he knew that people trained in firearms were everywhere and a gun

>> could be anywhere to be used to protect those he went after, he never

>> would have gone in.

>> More guns and a populace trained in using them will stop these nutjobs.

>

> Wrong ,you would just have more morons settling petty disagreements and

> grudges with gunfire.

>

No. Crime and personal grudges take full advantage of guns. In fact

the more laws against guns the more they become the tool of choice.

Conversely, where guns are openly available, people tend to be

more cautious, more circumspect. There's a reason for this but its

not important.

As we southern boys say, "An armed society is a polite society." We

say that because until the socialism took over federal and state

governments, guns were commonplace and thus were seldom used to

settle personal fights or even as much in crime.

The prospect of imminent death tends to clarify the mind.

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March 28, 2008

Maximo Gravaticus wrote:

> <knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:ae861c48-acf7-4354-90c5-a1701830f92a@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

>> On Mar 27, 11:59 pm, Roger Denney <rgden...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080328/ap_on_re_us/hospital_shootings

>>>

>>> 3 killed in Ga. hospital shooting spree

>>>

>>>

>>> -Roger

>> If there was gun at the nurses station and training of everyone was

>> the norm he never would have gotten out of there.

>

> Thats the dumbest thing I've eever heard.

>

>> If he knew that people trained in firearms were everywhere and a gun

>> could be anywhere to be used to protect those he went after, he never

>> would have gone in.

>

> Of course you're wrong. A person bent on commiting an insane act does not

> use common logic. You act as if the man was thinking clearly or rationaly.

> If he was clear and rational enough to use common logic, he would not not

> have even considered doing what he did. It would have never entered his

> mind.

>

Yes, it was personal. Yes, he was not in his normal state of mind. I

expect to find a prescription drug as the catalyst.

Nurses and others take heed - be careful who you piss off.

>

>> More guns and a populace trained in using them will stop these nutjobs.

>

> Wrong again. It's time to start taking guns from gun nuts, to may innocent

> people have to suffer and die so you can pray for more guns in the hands of

> idiots. Judging by your own lack of logic or even common sense, I would say

> you're no doubt a ticking time bomb ready to go off and kill a few people in

> the name of your guns. It's past time to relieve people like you of your

> weapons. To may innocent people die for you insane love of guns.

>

Well, any time you're ready you can come and get them.

Of course you won't. You'll keep subverting government to do your

dirty work until it turns totalitarian. If history is instructive,

at that point you'll become the primary target.

No. Crime and personal grudges take full advantage of guns. In fact

the more laws against guns the more they become the tool of choice.

Conversely, where guns are openly available, people tend to be

more cautious, more circumspect. There's a reason for this but its

not important.

As we southern boys say, "An armed society is a polite society." We

say that because until the socialism took over federal and state

governments, guns were commonplace and thus were seldom used to

settle personal fights or even as much in crime.

The prospect of imminent death tends to clarify the mind.

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March 28, 2008

<knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> On Mar 28, 2:09 am, "\"The Rifleman\"" <survi...@northland.com> wrote:

>> <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ae861c48-acf7-4354-90c5->

>> > If there was gun at the nurses station and training of everyone was

>> > the norm he never would have gotten out of there.

>> > If he knew that people trained in firearms were everywhere and a gun

>> > could be anywhere to be used to protect those he went after, he never

>> > would have gone in.

>> > More guns and a populace trained in using them will stop these nutjobs.

>>

>> Wrong ,you would just have more morons settling petty disagreements and

>> grudges with gunfire.

>

> Well, if they want to agree to do that in a controlled place let them.

> Duels worked quite well for many years.

Yep, and I suspect people were considerably more polite and less likely to

take offense, since either could end up costing you your life or serious

injury.

March 28, 2008

Bill Smith wrote:

>> ===================================================

>> Denneys' Comments:

>>

>> Once again, dear readers, we see what firearms do in the "land of

>> the "spree"...err..I mean "free" (to kill) zone..err. I mean "nation".

>>

>> Yes, we can continue this outrageous farce that guns "protect" us,

>> as these NRA gun freaks would have you and I believe, but perhaps,

>> if these three innocent victims of US gun violence could still talk,

>> instead of cooling their heels forever, first in the morgue and

>> thence onto their gravesites, the might speak out very differently

>> about the state of American gun control laws, in the 21st century.

>>

>> -Roger

>

> You never post stories about someone using a gun to defend themselves,

> in fact you wish to ignore that possibility altogether. You don't seem

> to realize that virtually every technology we use carries with it a

> risk/benefit ratio. Hospitals, for example, can be very dangerous

> places, but that certainly doesn't mean we should get rid of them.

>

> Bill Smith

>

Unfortunately, liberal progressives, otherwise known as socialists,

have been conditioned by family and governments to be obsessed by

guns. To many if not most in recent generations, guns are a major

cause of lifes problems. Typically emotional and insecure, they

are convinced of two things: when guns and poverty are outlawed,

crime will essentially disappear.

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March 28, 2008

HeyBub wrote:

> I ran across something similar:

>

> "Women want men who can sail ships, set broken bones, plant crops,

> cook dinner, write a masterpiece, solve equations, invent and repair

> machines, teach a child, help a friend, respect and love a woman (and

> be respected and loved by her), play sports, make a just decision,

> climb a volcano, dress plainly and elegantly, defeat oppression with

> a band of brothers, never say die but die bravely, dance willingly,

> retain a sense of humour, treat animals kindly, love God, speak

> honestly, and act resourcefully in the face of adversity. . ."

>

> Or at least Spartan women do...

There ya go :-) Robert Heinlein gets the credit for mine: 'Time Enough for

Love'

--

Dave

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,

butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance

accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,

give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new

problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight

efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

March 28, 2008

On Mar 28, 1:14 pm, Roger Denney <rgden...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:09:00 -0500, "robw" <noddy...@comcast.net>

> wrote:

>

> >> If there was gun at the nurses station and training of everyone was

> >> the norm he never would have gotten out of there.

> >> If he knew that people trained in firearms were everywhere and a gun

> >> could be anywhere to be used to protect those he went after, he never

> >> would have gone in.

> >> More guns and a populace trained in using them will stop these nutjobs.

> >Oh really?

>

> >How'd that wok out in Fla at that Wendy's???

>

> >The town had concealed carry.

> >Did the guy seem to care???

>

> Of course the gun-goons always ignore these facts....well, any facts

> that don't support their ideal notions of everyone packing a firearm,

> that is.

>

> Whatever it takes to keep thier guns, it matter not one bit who gets

> killed and maimed, as long as they have a "right" to own a gun.

Funny, when I lived in Colorado and we ALWAYS carried a rifle and

pistol in the car/truck either in a seat cover pocket or glove box, in

case we saw edible game, we NEVER had any "shootouts" in town or

anywhere else. Know why, because everyone KNEW OTHERS HAD A GUN.

I used to walk into the grocery store with my pistol on my belt and NO

ONE EVER SAID A WORD.

That was 1978. Those were the good old days....

March 29, 2008

On Mar 28, 5:47 am, Gunner <gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:18:49 -0400, "Maximo Gravaticus"

>

> <m...@woh.rr.com> wrote:

>

> >> More guns and a populace trained in using them will stop these nutjobs.

>

> >Wrong again. It's time to start taking guns from gun nuts,

>

> How do you propose to do that? If the people dont surrender them,

> make them criminals?

>

> Oh..you mean like the criminals now, who have guns?

>

> Gunner

So....

You're admitting that the only difference between a criminal and a gun

nut is one law....

Interesting.

March 29, 2008

tankfixer wrote:

> In article <2sjqu35n1gqi3qs33fitajn15tpgiirja6@4ax.com>,

> rgdenney@yahoo.com says...

>> Doctors, nurses, gun-loons; all shooting at each other, but that's

>> what the gun-loons want: blood-soaked, bullet-ridden carcasses make

>> them smile with joy....until its one of their own kinfolk that gets

>> shot to death by thier little toys.

>>

>

> Your fascination with killing would be good subject material for a

> toxicology major to study...

>

That's the way metrosexuals see the world. Very emotional and

insecure.

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March 29, 2008

> In article <uLmdncJwsIW92nDanZ2dnUVZ8qClnZ2d@bt.com>,

> survivor@northland.com says...

>

> "tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.kat.army.mil> wrote in message

> news:MPG.2256e3ce23a63660989e28@nntp.earthlink.net...

> > In article <-P2dnZcokvUzKHHanZ2dnUVZ8h-dnZ2d@bt.com>,

> > survivor@northland.com says...

> >>

> >> <knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> >> news:ae861c48-acf7-4354-90c5->

> >> > If there was gun at the nurses station and training of everyone was

> >> > the norm he never would have gotten out of there.

> >> > If he knew that people trained in firearms were everywhere and a gun

> >> > could be anywhere to be used to protect those he went after, he never

> >> > would have gone in.

> >> > More guns and a populace trained in using them will stop these

> >> > nutjobs.

> >>

> >> Wrong ,you would just have more morons settling petty disagreements and

> >> grudges with gunfire.

> >

> > That is the same argument the anti crowd tried when concealed carry laws

> > were proposed.

> > That gunfights would break out everywhere.

> > Interestingly enough they were wrong....

>

> and 30,000 yanks a year dont die from gun shot wounds, yeah dream on boys.

>

1) More than half of those 30,000 are SUICIDES

And suicide is MEANS-independent. In other words if they suicider

doesn't have access to a gun, they will use something else.

2) Most of the 14,000 or so homicides are criminals killing other

criminals with guns they shouldn't even have

Which goes to show 2 things

a) gun-control does not stop criminals from getting guns

illegally

b) It's a good thing when criminals kill each other. It reduces

the population of those who can prey on the law-abiding

March 29, 2008

Roger Denney wrote:

>

> Doctors, nurses, gun-loons; all shooting at each other, but that's

> what the gun-loons want: blood-soaked, bullet-ridden carcasses make

> them smile with joy....until its one of their own kinfolk that gets

> shot to death by thier little toys.

What makes you say that? I've got a lot of kinfolk that need killin' (mostly

on the "in-law" side).

March 29, 2008

Roger Denney wrote:

>

> I am reporting the true-crime news about the blood-soaked American

> gun-culture and the weapons of mass murder that they wordship.

At least we've GOT a god. Okay, some may call it an idol, but it works for

me.

My gun protects me, helps me get what I want, demands only modest offerings

and requires a fairly benign ritual of keeping my finger off the trigger and

pointing in a safe direction. It listens to my prayers and keeps me company.

I can count on it to support me in dire circumstances and it never judges me

or makes irrational demands.

My gun is my friend and companion. It will keep me safe.

I love, honor, and respect my gun. It will never fail me and I will never

fail it.

As the psalmist said, "Yeah, though I walk through the valley of death, I

will fear no evil. . ."

March 29, 2008

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:42:46 -0500, "Don Staples"

<dstaples@livingston.net> wrote:

>"Roger Denney" <rgdenney@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>news:4djqu3h0gn75fm61fil9257co7op7b1h6g@4ax.com...

>> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:14:13 -0700, tankfixer

>> <paul.carrier@us.kat.army.mil> wrote:

>>

>>>In article <md5pu39riubocsud7v3njah132o5pnnfc1@4ax.com>,

>>>rgdenney@yahoo.com says...

>>>>

>>>> 3 killed in Ga. hospital shooting spree

>>>

>>>Celebrating a loon makes you one my friend

>>

>> Who is "celebrating"?

>>

>> I am reporting the true-crime news about the blood-soaked American

>> gun-culture and the weapons of mass murder that they wordship.

>

>NO, you are just another dumb ass subject who cannot accept the consequences

>of freedom.

Does that mean I have to accept gun owners shooting at me in my car or

at my home too?

After all, in the news story below, that is exactly what happened and

this isn't the first time. The Beltway snipers are a prime example of

what your culture of bloody death tolerates, so that you can have a

"right" to keep a gun.

Where are the rights to life of the individuals who get shot and

killed each and every year by you gun-goons?

March 29, 2008

In article <13ur6333ptdes62@corp.supernews.com>,

"HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote:

> Roger Denney wrote:

> >

> > I am reporting the true-crime news about the blood-soaked American

> > gun-culture and the weapons of mass murder that they wordship.

>

> At least we've GOT a god. Okay, some may call it an idol, but it works for

> me.

>

> My gun protects me, helps me get what I want, demands only modest offerings

> and requires a fairly benign ritual of keeping my finger off the trigger and

> pointing in a safe direction. It listens to my prayers and keeps me company.

> I can count on it to support me in dire circumstances and it never judges me

> or makes irrational demands.

>

> My gun is my friend and companion. It will keep me safe.

>

> I love, honor, and respect my gun. It will never fail me and I will never

> fail it.

>

> As the psalmist said, "Yeah, though I walk through the valley of death, I

> will fear no evil. . ."

Nice. :-)

--

Peace! Om

"Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. They have never

forgotten this." - Heinlein

March 29, 2008

Roger Denney <rgdenney@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:pf8ru39ar5pop8l247m68dc4bhi07hu42a@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:42:46 -0500, "Don Staples"

> <dstaples@livingston.net> wrote:

>

>>"Roger Denney" <rgdenney@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>news:4djqu3h0gn75fm61fil9257co7op7b1h6g@4ax.com...

>>> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:14:13 -0700, tankfixer

>>> <paul.carrier@us.kat.army.mil> wrote:

>>>

>>>>In article <md5pu39riubocsud7v3njah132o5pnnfc1@4ax.com>,

rgdenney@yahoo.com

>>>>says...

>>>>>

>>>>> 3 killed in Ga. hospital shooting spree

>>>>

>>>>Celebrating a loon makes you one my friend

>>>

>>> Who is "celebrating"?

>>>

>>> I am reporting the true-crime news about the blood-soaked American

>>> gun-culture and the weapons of mass murder that they wordship.

Really? Then be honest with yourself, if not the rest of us.

What do you feel when you see an article like this one in the paper or the

net? Are you dismayed and tearful at these tragic deaths? Or do you get a

little rush of elation at yet another opportunity to throw it in the face of

the 'gun owners' you despise?

>>NO, you are just another dumb ass subject who cannot accept the consequences

>>of freedom.

>

> Does that mean I have to accept gun owners shooting at me in my car or

> at my home too?

>

> After all, in the news story below, that is exactly what happened and

> this isn't the first time.

It's called crime and it's not going away. That's one of several reasons

that the rest of us who aren't you want to have guns around. It makes perfect

sense to the rest of us. The mystery is where your damn fool logic comes from.

> The Beltway snipers are a prime example of

> what your culture of bloody death tolerates, so that you can have a

> "right" to keep a gun.

Nobody 'tolerates' it, dumb ass. That's why cops put manhunts on to find

the assholes that do it. If you want a world without guns there are many

places in the world where you can go for that. The US isn't one of them.

> Where are the rights to life of the individuals who get shot and

> killed each and every year by you gun-goons?

You don't have a right to life. You have a life. It's your job to protect

it.

--

"Life isn't about waiting for the storm

to pass... it's about learning to dance

in the rain."

March 29, 2008

In article <13ur4d5mkhk3c28@corp.supernews.com>, SaPeIsMa@Hotmail.com

says...

> > In article <uLmdncJwsIW92nDanZ2dnUVZ8qClnZ2d@bt.com>,

> > survivor@northland.com says...

> >

> > "tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.kat.army.mil> wrote in message

> > news:MPG.2256e3ce23a63660989e28@nntp.earthlink.net...

> > > In article <-P2dnZcokvUzKHHanZ2dnUVZ8h-dnZ2d@bt.com>,

> > > survivor@northland.com says...

> > >>

> > >> <knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> > >> news:ae861c48-acf7-4354-90c5->

> > >> > If there was gun at the nurses station and training of everyone was

> > >> > the norm he never would have gotten out of there.

> > >> > If he knew that people trained in firearms were everywhere and a gun

> > >> > could be anywhere to be used to protect those he went after, he never

> > >> > would have gone in.

> > >> > More guns and a populace trained in using them will stop these

> > >> > nutjobs.

> > >>

> > >> Wrong ,you would just have more morons settling petty disagreements and

> > >> grudges with gunfire.

> > >

> > > That is the same argument the anti crowd tried when concealed carry laws

> > > were proposed.

> > > That gunfights would break out everywhere.

> > > Interestingly enough they were wrong....

> >

> > and 30,000 yanks a year dont die from gun shot wounds, yeah dream on boys.

> >

>

> 1) More than half of those 30,000 are SUICIDES

> And suicide is MEANS-independent. In other words if they suicider

> doesn't have access to a gun, they will use something else.

> 2) Most of the 14,000 or so homicides are criminals killing other

> criminals with guns they shouldn't even have

> Which goes to show 2 things

> a) gun-control does not stop criminals from getting guns

> illegally

> b) It's a good thing when criminals kill each other. It reduces

> the population of those who can prey on the law-abiding

I had not figured suicides in but you are correct.

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