Three People Shot to Death by Gun-Goon in Ga. Hospital Shooting Spree

[Guest robw]

No problem.

 

There are a couple ethnic restaurants along 56th and Baltimore Ave. in

Philly. Many of these places (including those in Chinatown) turn their

basement levels into rooms where you could have a wedding reception, etc.

Seeing as how the ceremony, post reception and reception are generally all

held in the same place it makes "conventional" halls that charge by the hour

not financially wise or economical.

 

Seeing as how most of the use of these rooms would be at the weekends, the

rooms aren't generally used during the weekdays. There are a couple small

music promoters who rent the rooms to put on shows because they can get the

halls at a cheap price.

 

We were at a "noise" show at one of the places.

 

As we were coming out we heard the "pop, pop ,pop" starting and dove under

the cement steps of a nearby house.

 

Seeing as how you had thirty or so people all dialing 911, and seeing as how

that's not a great area and there are always cops nearby the place was a

Chinese New Year in minutes. Luckily no one got shot, but you had many

rattled nerves.

 

It wasn't fun.

 

Now tell us about your experiences here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

"AstonBarrett" <FAMILYMAN@Bass.gov.> wrote in message

news:47effcf3$0$5641$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> robw wrote:

>

> > Have you ever been in the chaos that is a shooting scene?

>

> Nope.

>

> > I have.

>

> Liar!

> YOU can't even call the imagianry woman you have, anything but a "muse!"

>

> If you said you have, then call up the case number, when you SCREAMED

> for the police.

> Name the circumstance, you fucking liar.

>

>

> >

> > Chaos with people running around in all directions.

> >

> > We saw shots bouncing off of nearby steps, houses etc.

> >

> > And those were from the cops.

>

> What happened when the drugs you were taking wore off?

> ... and after you saw "your muse"?

>

> Surely you stuck around to tell the cops about all the info you had to

> give.. right?

>

> Case number?

>

> If I were a witness, I would stick around and give all the information I

> had, and be willing to become a states witness for the common good.

>

>

> Uh, Robwetard?

> You ran away, or did you lie...AGAIN?

>

> I get it!

> You had yer hallucinated blow-up gal, and you slipped in your own

> urine as you ran away, making a very hi pitched noice that scared even

> yourself away.. and blew her up to boot!

>

>

>

[Guest Dave Bugg]

robw wrote:

> No, we dove under a cement stoop.

 

What is the 'No,..' in reference to, top-posting moron?

 

We'll have a conversation just as soon as you can correctly place the

context of your response to whatever it is that you're replying to.

[Guest AstonBarrett]

robw, the top posting RETARD wrote:

> No problem.

 

You just can't stop being a rather large fibber, can you?

[Guest WindsorFox]

Roger Denney wrote:

> Not at all. In other countries people are not as afraid of each other

> as they are here.

>

> Why?

>

> Because millions of cretins like you are walking around with guns at

> the ready (to kill) that is.

 

 

You can not possibly be so stupid as to truly believe that.

 

--

 

 

"As seen in the classified ads:

 

Learn how to get idiots to send you a dollar and their SSN.

Send $1 & your SSN to..." -- DarkFiber / BlockIP.org

[Guest Dave Bugg]

robw wrote:

> "No" we didn't expect someone else to protect us.

>

> Now, I'm not going to change where I post for you.

>

> You have two choices.

> Live with it or not.

 

Not. < to the clown-file wid ya>

 

--

Dave

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,

butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance

accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,

give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new

problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight

efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

[Guest Mike Smith]

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:33:53 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mike Smith wrote:

>>

>>

>> You do not have that power, no matter how much you "think" you do...

>>

>> The second amendment gives every law-abiding citizen the right to own

>> guns. You have absolutely no say in the matter.

>>

>

>Ah, no. At least not yet.

>

You are wrong.

 

I can go buy a 357 revolver tomorrow, along with 500 bullets. As long

as I produce the money, I get the gun.

 

Mike Smith

[Guest robw]

I noticed you skipped the post about the event.

 

Coward.

 

 

 

 

"AstonBarrett" <FAMILYMAN@Bass.gov.> wrote in message

news:47f00a5e$0$25021$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> robw, the top posting retard wrote:

>

> > No, I could have a firearm.

>

> Not LEGALY!

> And your imgainary "muse"... what would that blow up doll think... if

> it could?

>

[Guest robw]

No, we dove under a cement stoop.

 

At that point we had no idea what the police response would be.

 

What would you have done.

Gotten into a gun fight where shots were coming from all directions.

 

Oh, please tell us Wyat Earp.

 

You probably would have shit your pants.

 

 

 

 

"Dave Bugg" <davebugg2@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:7hTHj.2347$lV1.1753@trndny06...

> robw the top-posting moron wrote:

>

> > Yeah, we live in Philly and have never seen a real gun.

> > Right.

>

> Thanks for confirming that.

>

> > We didn't get caught in the middle of a gun fight at 56th and

> > Baltimore Ave. a couple years ago.

>

> Again, we already knew that.

>

> > And I could legally own a gun, I choose not to.

>

> IOW, you choose to place the responsibility for your personal protection

> into the hands of others.

>

> Now, try to reply in the context of readability instead of sheer ignorant

> laziness.

>

> --

> Dave

> "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,

> butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance

> accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,

> give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new

> problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight

> efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

>

>

[Guest robw]

Don't change my words.

 

 

"AstonBarrett" <FAMILYMAN@Bass.gov.> wrote in message

news:47f012b7$0$25040$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> robw the top posting homo retard wrote:

>

> >

> > We didn't get caught in the middle of a gun fight at 56th and Baltimore

Ave.

> > a couple years ago.

>

> I agree.

> I never said you did.

> YOU LIED when you and your "imaginary muse" said you did.

>

> YOU Can't back it up with any proof, so that's what makes you a

> consistantly CONSTANT liars.

>

> YOU keep making up shit that you can't back up!

>

> Just like this real doll/woman that you refer to as "A Muse".

> (she must have cost a fortune according to http://www.realdoll.com/ )

>

>

> Did yer Mommy get tired and finance it?

>

[Guest robw]

"No" we didn't expect someone else to protect us.

 

Now, I'm not going to change where I post for you.

 

You have two choices.

Live with it or not.

 

 

"Dave Bugg" <davebugg2@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:JNUHj.2180$yd2.1069@trndny04...

> robw wrote:

> > No, we dove under a cement stoop.

>

> What is the 'No,..' in reference to, top-posting moron?

>

> We'll have a conversation just as soon as you can correctly place the

> context of your response to whatever it is that you're replying to.

>

>

[Guest HeyBub]

Mike Smith wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:33:53 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>> Mike Smith wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>> You do not have that power, no matter how much you "think" you do...

>>>

>>> The second amendment gives every law-abiding citizen the right to

>>> own guns. You have absolutely no say in the matter.

>>>

>>

>> Ah, no. At least not yet.

>>

> You are wrong.

>

> I can go buy a 357 revolver tomorrow, along with 500 bullets. As long

> as I produce the money, I get the gun.

>

 

We're talking past each other. You may buy a gun, true, but it's not the 2nd

Amendment that allows such. The 2nd Amendment has no effect on the states or

the individuals within a state. The 2nd Amendment applies only to the

federal government.

 

For example, no law-abiding citizen in Washington, D.C. has a right to own a

pistol.

 

This restriction may change by early June.

[Guest Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:16:18 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> I can go buy a 357 revolver tomorrow, along with 500 bullets. As long

>> as I produce the money, I get the gun.

>>

>

>We're talking past each other. You may buy a gun, true, but it's not the 2nd

>Amendment that allows such. The 2nd Amendment has no effect on the states or

>the individuals within a state. The 2nd Amendment applies only to the

>federal government.

>

>For example, no law-abiding citizen in Washington, D.C. has a right to own a

>pistol.

>

>This restriction may change by early June.

>

Actually..no. The Constitution applies to states and individuals.

Misinterpretaion and agenda have been used to violate individuals

Rights. IE..pass unconsitutional laws.

 

And yes..this restriction may indeed change

 

Gunner

 

 

 

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.

Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)

off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give

them self determination under "play nice" rules.

 

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you

for torturing the cat." Gunner

[Guest robw]

Only a coward snips posts or changes words.

 

You do both.

 

 

"AstonBarrett" <FAMILYMAN@Bass.gov.> wrote in message

news:47f01b47$0$25031$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> robw, the top posting RETARD wrote:

>

> > No problem.

>

> You just can't stop being a rather large fibber, can you?

[Guest robw]

Why not.

 

I would have schooled you anyway.

 

 

"Dave Bugg" <davebugg2@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:s7VHj.929$at6.862@trndny01...

> robw wrote:

> > "No" we didn't expect someone else to protect us.

> >

> > Now, I'm not going to change where I post for you.

> >

> > You have two choices.

> > Live with it or not.

>

> Not. < to the clown-file wid ya>

>

> --

> Dave

> "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,

> butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance

> accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,

> give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new

> problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight

> efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

>

>

[Guest Too_Many_Tools]

On Mar 30, 5:12

[Guest Too_Many_Tools]

On Mar 30, 6:36

[Guest Mike Smith]

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:17:23 -0400, Peter Kelsey

<peter_a_kelseyNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

>Mike Smith wrote:

>

>> I can go buy a 357 revolver tomorrow, along with 500 bullets.

>

>Hell, sonny, the "bullets" won't do you much good, unless

>you also buy the cases, powder and primers to make yourself

>some cartridges.

>

>What are you going to do, THROW them at your attacker?

 

Thanks... I like being corrected by fuckin morons.

 

Mike Smith

[Guest Mike Smith]

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:16:18 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mike Smith wrote:

>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:33:53 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>>> Mike Smith wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> You do not have that power, no matter how much you "think" you do...

>>>>

>>>> The second amendment gives every law-abiding citizen the right to

>>>> own guns. You have absolutely no say in the matter.

>>>>

>>>

>>> Ah, no. At least not yet.

>>>

>> You are wrong.

>>

>> I can go buy a 357 revolver tomorrow, along with 500 bullets. As long

>> as I produce the money, I get the gun.

>>

>

>We're talking past each other. You may buy a gun, true, but it's not the 2nd

>Amendment that allows such. The 2nd Amendment has no effect on the states or

>the individuals within a state. The 2nd Amendment applies only to the

>federal government.

>

>For example, no law-abiding citizen in Washington, D.C. has a right to own a

>pistol.

>

>This restriction may change by early June.

>

 

The Constitution enumerates restrictions on our government entities.

 

My rights are God-given and self-evident.

 

Mike Smith

[Guest strabo]

robw wrote:

> No problem.

>

> There are a couple ethnic restaurants along 56th and Baltimore Ave. in

> Philly. Many of these places (including those in Chinatown) turn their

> basement levels into rooms where you could have a wedding reception, etc.

> Seeing as how the ceremony, post reception and reception are generally all

> held in the same place it makes "conventional" halls that charge by the hour

> not financially wise or economical.

>

> Seeing as how most of the use of these rooms would be at the weekends, the

> rooms aren't generally used during the weekdays. There are a couple small

> music promoters who rent the rooms to put on shows because they can get the

> halls at a cheap price.

>

> We were at a "noise" show at one of the places.

>

> As we were coming out we heard the "pop, pop ,pop" starting and dove under

> the cement steps of a nearby house.

>

> Seeing as how you had thirty or so people all dialing 911, and seeing as how

> that's not a great area and there are always cops nearby the place was a

> Chinese New Year in minutes. Luckily no one got shot, but you had many

> rattled nerves.

>

> It wasn't fun.

>

 

Like most cities, Philadelphia is corrupt and socialist. Its

inhabitants are disarmed and cowardly and its cops can't

shoot straight.

 

You think screwing around with us will solve your problems?

 

You have your "rich, ethnic diversity" with all its crime

and chaos, so quit bitching.

 

 

>

> Now tell us about your experiences here.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> "AstonBarrett" <FAMILYMAN@Bass.gov.> wrote in message

> news:47effcf3$0$5641$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> robw wrote:

>>

>>> Have you ever been in the chaos that is a shooting scene?

>> Nope.

>>

>>> I have.

>> Liar!

>> YOU can't even call the imagianry woman you have, anything but a "muse!"

>>

>> If you said you have, then call up the case number, when you SCREAMED

>> for the police.

>> Name the circumstance, you fucking liar.

>>

>>

>>> Chaos with people running around in all directions.

>>>

>>> We saw shots bouncing off of nearby steps, houses etc.

>>>

>>> And those were from the cops.

>> What happened when the drugs you were taking wore off?

>> ... and after you saw "your muse"?

>>

>> Surely you stuck around to tell the cops about all the info you had to

>> give.. right?

>>

>> Case number?

>>

>> If I were a witness, I would stick around and give all the information I

>> had, and be willing to become a states witness for the common good.

>>

>>

>> Uh, Robwetard?

>> You ran away, or did you lie...AGAIN?

>>

>> I get it!

>> You had yer hallucinated blow-up gal, and you slipped in your own

>> urine as you ran away, making a very hi pitched noice that scared even

>> yourself away.. and blew her up to boot!

>>

>>

>>

>

>

 

 

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[Guest HeyBub]

Gunner Asch wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:16:18 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>>>

>>> I can go buy a 357 revolver tomorrow, along with 500 bullets. As

>>> long as I produce the money, I get the gun.

>>>

>>

>> We're talking past each other. You may buy a gun, true, but it's not

>> the 2nd Amendment that allows such. The 2nd Amendment has no effect

>> on the states or the individuals within a state. The 2nd Amendment

>> applies only to the federal government.

>>

>> For example, no law-abiding citizen in Washington, D.C. has a right

>> to own a pistol.

>>

>> This restriction may change by early June.

>>

> Actually..no. The Constitution applies to states and individuals.

> Misinterpretaion and agenda have been used to violate individuals

> Rights. IE..pass unconsitutional laws.

>

> And yes..this restriction may indeed change

>

 

The Bill of Rights was originally intended to apply only to the federal

government. This stood until 1925 when the Supreme Court, through the 14th

Amendment, "incorporated" Freedom of Speech from the 1st Amendment upon the

states. Since 1925, most of the other BOR Amendments have been incorporated.

The 2nd has not. The 3rd has not. Indictment by a grand jury has not.

Unanimous jury verdict has not. These, and a few others, apply only to the

federal government.

 

Minor logical correction: No legislative body can pass an "unconstitutional"

law. All laws passed by legislative bodies are presumed to be constitutional

until deemed otherwise by a court of competent jurisdiction.

[Guest robw]

Screwing around with who?

 

 

"strabo" <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote in message

news:1206924223_249@isp.n...

> robw wrote:

> > No problem.

> >

> > There are a couple ethnic restaurants along 56th and Baltimore Ave. in

> > Philly. Many of these places (including those in Chinatown) turn their

> > basement levels into rooms where you could have a wedding reception,

etc.

> > Seeing as how the ceremony, post reception and reception are generally

all

> > held in the same place it makes "conventional" halls that charge by the

hour

> > not financially wise or economical.

> >

> > Seeing as how most of the use of these rooms would be at the weekends,

the

> > rooms aren't generally used during the weekdays. There are a couple

small

> > music promoters who rent the rooms to put on shows because they can get

the

> > halls at a cheap price.

> >

> > We were at a "noise" show at one of the places.

> >

> > As we were coming out we heard the "pop, pop ,pop" starting and dove

under

> > the cement steps of a nearby house.

> >

> > Seeing as how you had thirty or so people all dialing 911, and seeing as

how

> > that's not a great area and there are always cops nearby the place was a

> > Chinese New Year in minutes. Luckily no one got shot, but you had many

> > rattled nerves.

> >

> > It wasn't fun.

> >

>

> Like most cities, Philadelphia is corrupt and socialist. Its

> inhabitants are disarmed and cowardly and its cops can't

> shoot straight.

>

> You think screwing around with us will solve your problems?

>

> You have your "rich, ethnic diversity" with all its crime

> and chaos, so quit bitching.

>

>

>

> >

> > Now tell us about your experiences here.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > "AstonBarrett" <FAMILYMAN@Bass.gov.> wrote in message

> > news:47effcf3$0$5641$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> >> robw wrote:

> >>

> >>> Have you ever been in the chaos that is a shooting scene?

> >> Nope.

> >>

> >>> I have.

> >> Liar!

> >> YOU can't even call the imagianry woman you have, anything but a

"muse!"

> >>

> >> If you said you have, then call up the case number, when you SCREAMED

> >> for the police.

> >> Name the circumstance, you fucking liar.

> >>

> >>

> >>> Chaos with people running around in all directions.

> >>>

> >>> We saw shots bouncing off of nearby steps, houses etc.

> >>>

> >>> And those were from the cops.

> >> What happened when the drugs you were taking wore off?

> >> ... and after you saw "your muse"?

> >>

> >> Surely you stuck around to tell the cops about all the info you had to

> >> give.. right?

> >>

> >> Case number?

> >>

> >> If I were a witness, I would stick around and give all the information

I

> >> had, and be willing to become a states witness for the common good.

> >>

> >>

> >> Uh, Robwetard?

> >> You ran away, or did you lie...AGAIN?

> >>

> >> I get it!

> >> You had yer hallucinated blow-up gal, and you slipped in your own

> >> urine as you ran away, making a very hi pitched noice that scared even

> >> yourself away.. and blew her up to boot!

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

>

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[Guest Dan]

tankfixer wrote:

> In article <0XOHj.2$cl7.1@newsfe05.lga>, dnadan56@hotmail.com says...

>> tankfixer wrote:

>>> In article <4YdHj.38$ta2.3@trndny05>, davebugg2@yahoo.com says...

>>>> HeyBub wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> I ran across something similar:

>>>>>

>>>>> "Women want men who can sail ships, set broken bones, plant crops,

>>>>> cook dinner, write a masterpiece, solve equations, invent and repair

>>>>> machines, teach a child, help a friend, respect and love a woman (and

>>>>> be respected and loved by her), play sports, make a just decision,

>>>>> climb a volcano, dress plainly and elegantly, defeat oppression with

>>>>> a band of brothers, never say die but die bravely, dance willingly,

>>>>> retain a sense of humour, treat animals kindly, love God, speak

>>>>> honestly, and act resourcefully in the face of adversity. . ."

>>>>>

>>>>> Or at least Spartan women do...

>>>> There ya go :-) Robert Heinlein gets the credit for mine: 'Time Enough for

>>>> Love'

>>> A great man...

>> Sure, if you appreciate big government fascists...

>

> Don't tell me.

> You think Starship Troopers advocated such a government, right ?

 

The book did not tell much about the government, just the Utopian method

of choosing same. Even the author admits so in the story.

>> OK author, bad political theorist.

>

> You never read much of his work then I take it ?

 

Obviously more than you...

 

Dan

[Guest Dan]

Gunner Asch wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:31:56 -0700, tankfixer

> <paul.carrier@us.kat.army.mil> wrote:

>

>> In article <0XOHj.2$cl7.1@newsfe05.lga>, dnadan56@hotmail.com says...

>>> tankfixer wrote:

>>>> In article <4YdHj.38$ta2.3@trndny05>, davebugg2@yahoo.com says...

>>>>> HeyBub wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> I ran across something similar:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Women want men who can sail ships, set broken bones, plant crops,

>>>>>> cook dinner, write a masterpiece, solve equations, invent and repair

>>>>>> machines, teach a child, help a friend, respect and love a woman (and

>>>>>> be respected and loved by her), play sports, make a just decision,

>>>>>> climb a volcano, dress plainly and elegantly, defeat oppression with

>>>>>> a band of brothers, never say die but die bravely, dance willingly,

>>>>>> retain a sense of humour, treat animals kindly, love God, speak

>>>>>> honestly, and act resourcefully in the face of adversity. . ."

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Or at least Spartan women do...

>>>>> There ya go :-) Robert Heinlein gets the credit for mine: 'Time Enough for

>>>>> Love'

>>>> A great man...

>>> Sure, if you appreciate big government fascists...

>> Don't tell me.

>> You think Starship Troopers advocated such a government, right ?

>>

>>> OK author, bad political theorist.

>> You never read much of his work then I take it ?

>

> Dandan thinks only Mao and Marx were good authors.

>

> Gunner

 

Runner just had to stick his nose where he could show off his ignorance.

Nice puppy.

 

Any other silly predictions about me? You are as far off the mark here

as at any other time (and, no, that does NOT mean you have ever come

near the mark in any of your pathetic posts).

 

Just waiting to see the interesting clippage...

 

Dan

[Guest Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:10:19 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>The Bill of Rights was originally intended to apply only to the federal

>government. This stood until 1925 when the Supreme Court, through the 14th

>Amendment, "incorporated" Freedom of Speech from the 1st Amendment upon the

>states. Since 1925, most of the other BOR Amendments have been incorporated.

>The 2nd has not.

 

 

ah...no it was not.

 

The idea of "incorporation" came well after the fact and was a concept

put forth by tyrannical officials trying do to end runs around the

Constititon

 

the People are the whole, and the sum of the residents of the states.

 

You will notice that the Constitution makes no disclaimer about

protecting only Federal Citizens.

 

But hey...keep believing

 

Gunner

 

 

 

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.

Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)

off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give

them self determination under "play nice" rules.

 

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you

for torturing the cat." Gunner

[Guest Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:10:19 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>Minor logical correction: No legislative body can pass an "unconstitutional"

>law. All laws passed by legislative bodies are presumed to be constitutional

>until deemed otherwise by a court of competent jurisdiction.

 

 

and when SCOTUS or other courts find them to be unconsitutional...they

were unconstitutional from the onset.

 

When a law is found to be unconstititutional, anyone convicted under

that law is released.

Or is supposed to be.

 

Gunner

 

 

 

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.

Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)

off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give

them self determination under "play nice" rules.

 

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you

for torturing the cat." Gunner