Guest Omelet Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 In article <cradnUWDz7TpjG3anZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@comcast.com>, Peter Kelsey <peter_a_kelseyNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote: > Mike Smith wrote: > > > I can go buy a 357 revolver tomorrow, along with 500 bullets. > > Hell, sonny, the "bullets" won't do you much good, unless > you also buy the cases, powder and primers to make yourself > some cartridges. > > What are you going to do, THROW them at your attacker? <giggles> Picky gun terminologist! -- -- Peace! Om "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. They have never forgotten this." - Heinlein Quote
Guest tankfixer Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 In article <75ednaM6t7hNbHLanZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@comcast.com>, noddy093 @comcast.net says... > No, I could have a firearm. > > Now explain why four of the bullets that hit the cement steps we were hiding > behind came from the cops. Becuase they were shooting at the criminals.. > Your turn. > > > "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:ompomelet-17EF47.14214530032008@news.giganews.com... > > In article <47efda73$0$5612$607ed4bc@cv.net>, > > AstonBarrett <FAMILYMAN@Bass.gov.> wrote: > > > > > robw, the top posting retard wrote: > > > > > > > And what if one through four hits innocent people? > > > > > > My aim is true. > > > If #1 doesn't stop the attack, then I will fire rounds #2 through > > > whatever. > > > My shots don't "MURDER" (let alone hit) innocent people. > > > > > > Why are YOU such a bad shot? > > > > > > Oh That's right! YOU can't HAVE a firearm, and YOU don't know how to > aim! > > > > Seconded. > > -- > > -- > > > > Peace! Om > > > > "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. They have never > > forgotten this." - Heinlein > > > Quote
Guest tankfixer Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 In article <bmlvu39ic5r35pm74cch9lra0cbpd8jthg@4ax.com>, gunner@NOSPAM.earthlink.net says... > On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:31:56 -0700, tankfixer > <paul.carrier@us.kat.army.mil> wrote: > > >In article <0XOHj.2$cl7.1@newsfe05.lga>, dnadan56@hotmail.com says... > >> tankfixer wrote: > >> > In article <4YdHj.38$ta2.3@trndny05>, davebugg2@yahoo.com says... > >> >> HeyBub wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> I ran across something similar: > >> >>> > >> >>> "Women want men who can sail ships, set broken bones, plant crops, > >> >>> cook dinner, write a masterpiece, solve equations, invent and repair > >> >>> machines, teach a child, help a friend, respect and love a woman (and > >> >>> be respected and loved by her), play sports, make a just decision, > >> >>> climb a volcano, dress plainly and elegantly, defeat oppression with > >> >>> a band of brothers, never say die but die bravely, dance willingly, > >> >>> retain a sense of humour, treat animals kindly, love God, speak > >> >>> honestly, and act resourcefully in the face of adversity. . ." > >> >>> > >> >>> Or at least Spartan women do... > >> >> There ya go :-) Robert Heinlein gets the credit for mine: 'Time Enough for > >> >> Love' > >> > > >> > A great man... > >> > >> Sure, if you appreciate big government fascists... > > > >Don't tell me. > >You think Starship Troopers advocated such a government, right ? > > > >> > >> OK author, bad political theorist. > > > >You never read much of his work then I take it ? > > Dandan thinks only Mao and Marx were good authors. > I suspect so. Quote
Guest tankfixer Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 In article <_PYHj.325$Lt7.142@newsfe06.lga>, dnadan56@hotmail.com says... > tankfixer wrote: > > In article <0XOHj.2$cl7.1@newsfe05.lga>, dnadan56@hotmail.com says... > >> tankfixer wrote: > >>> In article <4YdHj.38$ta2.3@trndny05>, davebugg2@yahoo.com says... > >>>> HeyBub wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I ran across something similar: > >>>>> > >>>>> "Women want men who can sail ships, set broken bones, plant crops, > >>>>> cook dinner, write a masterpiece, solve equations, invent and repair > >>>>> machines, teach a child, help a friend, respect and love a woman (and > >>>>> be respected and loved by her), play sports, make a just decision, > >>>>> climb a volcano, dress plainly and elegantly, defeat oppression with > >>>>> a band of brothers, never say die but die bravely, dance willingly, > >>>>> retain a sense of humour, treat animals kindly, love God, speak > >>>>> honestly, and act resourcefully in the face of adversity. . ." > >>>>> > >>>>> Or at least Spartan women do... > >>>> There ya go :-) Robert Heinlein gets the credit for mine: 'Time Enough for > >>>> Love' > >>> A great man... > >> Sure, if you appreciate big government fascists... > > > > Don't tell me. > > You think Starship Troopers advocated such a government, right ? > > The book did not tell much about the government, just the Utopian method > of choosing same. Even the author admits so in the story. Are you changing your claim now ? Is it facist or utopian ? > > >> OK author, bad political theorist. > > > > You never read much of his work then I take it ? > > Obviously more than you... Wow now that's a reasoned statement. Quote
Guest tankfixer Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 In article <solvu3ptv5htrsovha0tiio5o87cu4ui8e@4ax.com>, gunner@NOSPAM.earthlink.net says... > On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:31:58 -0700, tankfixer > <paul.carrier@us.kat.army.mil> wrote: > > >In article <1jhuu316eslqd0c2fnnor4q84u7244fjmt@4ax.com>, > >rgdenney@yahoo.com says... > >> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:04:44 -0400, AstonBarrett <FAMILYMAN@Bass.gov.> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >Roger Denney wrote: > >> >> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:23:17 -0400, AstonBarrett <FAMILYMAN@Bass.gov.> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>>Roger Denney wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>>>On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:02:15 -0700 (PDT), stickyw > >> >>>><stickyweather@aol.com> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>Sure, blame the guns. Its never the killer's fault. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>Isn't it odd that so many Americans turn to guns to kill one another? > >> >>> > >> >>>It is odd that you believe that. > >> >>>So very few Americans do, Roger. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> You seem to forget that in other countries, its MUCH less due to gun > >> >> control laws they have there. > >> > > >> >You seem to forget those "other countries" also have less murder when > >> >using OTHER weapons as well... so your point is moot. > >> > > >> > So when are you going to move? > >> > >> Not at all. In other countries people are not as afraid of each other > >> as they are here. > > > >From my observations it would appear the one afraid here is you Roger. > >> > >> Why? > >> > >> Because millions of cretins like you are walking around with guns at > >> the ready (to kill) that is. > > > >You need to get some help with those anger issues.... > > And the hallucinations. > I'd have to consult with my pharmicy friend to know if the same drugs will work for both... Quote
Guest Gunner Asch Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:11:33 -0700, tankfixer <paul.carrier@us.kat.army.mil> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Or at least Spartan women do... >> >>>> There ya go :-) Robert Heinlein gets the credit for mine: 'Time Enough for >> >>>> Love' >> >>> A great man... >> >> Sure, if you appreciate big government fascists... >> > >> > Don't tell me. >> > You think Starship Troopers advocated such a government, right ? >> >> The book did not tell much about the government, just the Utopian method >> of choosing same. Even the author admits so in the story. > >Are you changing your claim now ? >Is it facist or utopian ? > > >> >> >> OK author, bad political theorist. >> > >> > You never read much of his work then I take it ? >> >> Obviously more than you... > >Wow now that's a reasoned statement. I gave up on Dandan ever being capable of a reasoned statement when he claimed RAH was a "big government fascist" Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner Quote
Guest Gunner Asch Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:08:13 -0600, Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote: >In article <75ednaM6t7hNbHLanZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@comcast.com>, > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote: > >> No, I could have a firearm. >> >> Now explain why four of the bullets that hit the cement steps we were hiding >> behind came from the cops. >> >> Your turn. >> >> >> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:ompomelet-17EF47.14214530032008@news.giganews.com... >> > In article <47efda73$0$5612$607ed4bc@cv.net>, >> > AstonBarrett <FAMILYMAN@Bass.gov.> wrote: >> > >> > > robw, the top posting retard wrote: >> > > >> > > > And what if one through four hits innocent people? >> > > >> > > My aim is true. >> > > If #1 doesn't stop the attack, then I will fire rounds #2 through >> > > whatever. >> > > My shots don't "MURDER" (let alone hit) innocent people. >> > > >> > > Why are YOU such a bad shot? >> > > >> > > Oh That's right! YOU can't HAVE a firearm, and YOU don't know how to >> aim! >> > >> > Seconded. > >Many CCW/CHL holders are better shots than the cops. > >And please stop top posting. It screws up the conversation flow. >-- Robw is in most normal peoples kill files as being to Stupid to figure out how to post normally. Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner Quote
Guest Omelet Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 In article <75ednaM6t7hNbHLanZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@comcast.com>, "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote: > No, I could have a firearm. > > Now explain why four of the bullets that hit the cement steps we were hiding > behind came from the cops. > > Your turn. > > > "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:ompomelet-17EF47.14214530032008@news.giganews.com... > > In article <47efda73$0$5612$607ed4bc@cv.net>, > > AstonBarrett <FAMILYMAN@Bass.gov.> wrote: > > > > > robw, the top posting retard wrote: > > > > > > > And what if one through four hits innocent people? > > > > > > My aim is true. > > > If #1 doesn't stop the attack, then I will fire rounds #2 through > > > whatever. > > > My shots don't "MURDER" (let alone hit) innocent people. > > > > > > Why are YOU such a bad shot? > > > > > > Oh That's right! YOU can't HAVE a firearm, and YOU don't know how to > aim! > > > > Seconded. Many CCW/CHL holders are better shots than the cops. And please stop top posting. It screws up the conversation flow. -- -- Peace! Om "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. They have never forgotten this." - Heinlein Quote
Guest Omelet Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 In article <Xns9A719476F3BC3Sandman@216.196.97.136>, "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote: > Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in news:ompomelet- > C5F0A1.09260630032008@news.giganews.com: > > > In article <Xns9A714797D5BF2Sandman@216.196.97.136>, > > "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote: > > > >> "Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote in > >> news:ztBHj.97571$yE1.87906@attbi_s21: > >> > >> > > >> > "nc@gntbcr.com" <Not PC> wrote in message > >> > news:tukqu39261jhf62jok4j6j82vp3tpef7l0@4ax.com... > >> >> On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:29:35 -0000, "\"The Rifleman\"" > >> >> <survivor@northland.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>>and 30,000 yanks a year dont die from gun shot wounds, yeah dream > on > >> >>>boys. > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> OH MY GAWD! At that rate, all us "yanks" will be dead of gun shots > >> >> in only 20,000 years. (more than half the "gun dead" are from > >> >> suicide) > >> > > >> > And most of the others are criminal on criminal. > >> > >> > >> About 65% of homicides in a city will involve either drug or gang > >> activity or both. > > > > Which is yet one more good reason to end the "war on drugs". > > Actually, two. Even three if you don't mind putting some DEA dudes out > of work. They can find something else to do. ;-) -- -- Peace! Om "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. They have never forgotten this." - Heinlein Quote
Guest Dave Bugg Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Gunner Asch wrote: > Robw is in most normal peoples kill files as being to Stupid to > figure out how to post normally. Even amongst his fellow top-posting morons, he's an idiot. -- Dave "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Quote
Guest Omelet Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 In article <t8u0v3539ul6k0t4299tn3if8mp0skfbbm@4ax.com>, Gunner Asch <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote: > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:08:13 -0600, Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >In article <75ednaM6t7hNbHLanZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@comcast.com>, > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote: > > > >> No, I could have a firearm. > >> > >> Now explain why four of the bullets that hit the cement steps we were > >> hiding > >> behind came from the cops. > >> > >> Your turn. > >> > >> > >> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:ompomelet-17EF47.14214530032008@news.giganews.com... > >> > In article <47efda73$0$5612$607ed4bc@cv.net>, > >> > AstonBarrett <FAMILYMAN@Bass.gov.> wrote: > >> > > >> > > robw, the top posting retard wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > And what if one through four hits innocent people? > >> > > > >> > > My aim is true. > >> > > If #1 doesn't stop the attack, then I will fire rounds #2 through > >> > > whatever. > >> > > My shots don't "MURDER" (let alone hit) innocent people. > >> > > > >> > > Why are YOU such a bad shot? > >> > > > >> > > Oh That's right! YOU can't HAVE a firearm, and YOU don't know how to > >> aim! > >> > > >> > Seconded. > > > >Many CCW/CHL holders are better shots than the cops. > > > >And please stop top posting. It screws up the conversation flow. > >-- > Robw is in most normal peoples kill files as being to Stupid to > figure out how to post normally. > > Gunner > Probably not a bad idea. ;-) -- -- Peace! Om "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. They have never forgotten this." - Heinlein Quote
Guest John Husvar Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 In article <fsp6ds$k6c$1@posting2.glorb.com>, "WindsorFox<SS>" <darkshado666@gmail.com> wrote: > Roger Denney wrote: > > Not at all. In other countries people are not as afraid of each other > > as they are here. > > > > Why? > > > > Because millions of cretins like you are walking around with guns at > > the ready (to kill) that is. > > > You can not possibly be so stupid as to truly believe that. But he trolly believes it. Roger is a well-known and beloved (?) troll on the subject of guns. I suspect he derives great pleasure from trolling. Quote
Guest HeyBub Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Gunner Asch wrote: > On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:10:19 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> The Bill of Rights was originally intended to apply only to the >> federal government. This stood until 1925 when the Supreme Court, >> through the 14th Amendment, "incorporated" Freedom of Speech from >> the 1st Amendment upon the states. Since 1925, most of the other BOR >> Amendments have been incorporated. The 2nd has not. > > > ah...no it was not. > > The idea of "incorporation" came well after the fact and was a concept > put forth by tyrannical officials trying do to end runs around the > Constititon > > the People are the whole, and the sum of the residents of the states. > > You will notice that the Constitution makes no disclaimer about > protecting only Federal Citizens. > > But hey...keep believing > I don't "believe;" I simply report the facts. Your understanding of how the Constitution works is in error. There are dozens of court cases attesting to the fact that the BOR applied ONLY to the federal government. This was established law prior to the incorporation doctrine. At no time prior to 1925 did any legal scholar - not the drafters, the practitioners, or the courts - assert that any part of the BOR applied to any entity other than the federal government. For example, Connecticut had a state religion until 1818. Massachusetts had a state religion until 1833. Local political entities maintained official religions until much later. It wasn't until 1947 that the 1st Amendment's religious clause was applied to the states. In Texas, for example, it is still against the law for an athiest to run for public office. Now we may not LIKE this distinction and we may not agree with the court's conclusion. We may, in fact, read the BOR as applying to everybody. But, fortunately, we don't get the luxury of having our interpretation treated as the law of the land. Quote
Guest Bill Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Gunner Asch <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in news:b6u0v3hcduhg6hevviho74fnb7vf7fv8pg@4ax.com: <snip>w now that's a reasoned statement. > > I gave up on Dandan ever being capable of a reasoned statement when he > claimed RAH was a "big government fascist" > > Gunner > > <snip> To be fair he probably based it on the movie 'Starship Troopers' and has never had any of RAHs book read to him...... Bill Quote
Guest strabo Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Mike Smith wrote: > On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:16:18 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Mike Smith wrote: >>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:33:53 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Mike Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You do not have that power, no matter how much you "think" you do... >>>>> >>>>> The second amendment gives every law-abiding citizen the right to >>>>> own guns. You have absolutely no say in the matter. >>>>> >>>> Ah, no. At least not yet. >>>> >>> You are wrong. >>> >>> I can go buy a 357 revolver tomorrow, along with 500 bullets. As long >>> as I produce the money, I get the gun. >>> >> We're talking past each other. You may buy a gun, true, but it's not the 2nd >> Amendment that allows such. The 2nd Amendment has no effect on the states or >> the individuals within a state. The 2nd Amendment applies only to the >> federal government. >> >> For example, no law-abiding citizen in Washington, D.C. has a right to own a >> pistol. >> >> This restriction may change by early June. >> > > The Constitution enumerates restrictions on our government entities. > > My rights are God-given and self-evident. > > Mike Smith > You are correct on both counts. 1. The Declaration of Independence is the basis of American sovereignty AND individual rights... "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." - Excerpted from the Declaration of Independence It draws upon ancient principles of Organic/Natural law and concurrent writers which conclude that every human is given the essential power of discernment by the greater power that created them. Thus, every individual knows the difference between right and wrong and responsibility is fixed upon the actions on the individual. This effectively removes any man or system (kings, pope, government, etc.) as superior to the individual. Today the Declaration remains an essential tenet of American common law. However, power mongers, thieves and oppressors do not like this conclusion. 2. In 1787 a cabal of American politicians funded and led by European bankers and commercialists, demanded that the Articles of Confederation be replaced by a constitution creating a strong central government. But they didn't have the votes to force the issue. George Mason, James Madison, Patrick Henry and Samuel Adams were among those against ratification. These opponents of federalism required the inclusion of measures which would constrain the powers of the proposed central government. Ratification of the constitution depended on this condition. Their solution to centralized power was accomplished by counter positioning individual rights within the core document. The articles, later called the Bill of Rights, were inspired by John Locke Quote
Guest RM v2.0 Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 > Nobody 'tolerates' it, dumb ass. That's why cops put manhunts on to > find > the assholes that do it. If you want a world without guns there are many > places in the world where you can go for that. The US isn't one of them. > You mean Canada..no, they have guns there. Oh, how about Australia...no, wait, they have criminals with guns there too. I know, try Mexico, they have a ban....damn, they have criminals and a high murder rate too. Quote
Guest Jim Alder Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 "RM v2.0" <Blah@spam.sucks> wrote in news:AH5Ij.248100$us.232775 @fe04.news.easynews.com: >> Nobody 'tolerates' it, dumb ass. That's why cops put manhunts on to find >> the assholes that do it. If you want a world without guns there are many >> places in the world where you can go for that. The US isn't one of them. >> > You mean Canada..no, they have guns there. Oh, how about Australia...no, > wait, they have criminals with guns there too. I know, try Mexico, they have > a ban....damn, they have criminals and a high murder rate too. He said he wanted a ban. He didn't say anything about a successful one. Thewre's always Japan or China. I'm sure there are others. -- "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass... it's about learning to dance in the rain." Quote
Guest Dan Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 tankfixer wrote: > In article <bmlvu39ic5r35pm74cch9lra0cbpd8jthg@4ax.com>, > gunner@NOSPAM.earthlink.net says... >> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:31:56 -0700, tankfixer >> <paul.carrier@us.kat.army.mil> wrote: >> >>> In article <0XOHj.2$cl7.1@newsfe05.lga>, dnadan56@hotmail.com says... >>>> tankfixer wrote: >>>>> In article <4YdHj.38$ta2.3@trndny05>, davebugg2@yahoo.com says... >>>>>> HeyBub wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I ran across something similar: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Women want men who can sail ships, set broken bones, plant crops, >>>>>>> cook dinner, write a masterpiece, solve equations, invent and repair >>>>>>> machines, teach a child, help a friend, respect and love a woman (and >>>>>>> be respected and loved by her), play sports, make a just decision, >>>>>>> climb a volcano, dress plainly and elegantly, defeat oppression with >>>>>>> a band of brothers, never say die but die bravely, dance willingly, >>>>>>> retain a sense of humour, treat animals kindly, love God, speak >>>>>>> honestly, and act resourcefully in the face of adversity. . ." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Or at least Spartan women do... >>>>>> There ya go :-) Robert Heinlein gets the credit for mine: 'Time Enough for >>>>>> Love' >>>>> A great man... >>>> Sure, if you appreciate big government fascists... >>> Don't tell me. >>> You think Starship Troopers advocated such a government, right ? >>> >>>> OK author, bad political theorist. >>> You never read much of his work then I take it ? >> Dandan thinks only Mao and Marx were good authors. >> > > I suspect so. > Yes, I believe you are ignorant to believe that. Shows how little you pay attention. Sadder still, you are PROUD to display that fact to the world! Dan Quote
Guest Dan Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 tankfixer wrote: > In article <_PYHj.325$Lt7.142@newsfe06.lga>, dnadan56@hotmail.com > says... >> tankfixer wrote: >>> In article <0XOHj.2$cl7.1@newsfe05.lga>, dnadan56@hotmail.com says... >>>> tankfixer wrote: >>>>> In article <4YdHj.38$ta2.3@trndny05>, davebugg2@yahoo.com says... >>>>>> HeyBub wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I ran across something similar: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Women want men who can sail ships, set broken bones, plant crops, >>>>>>> cook dinner, write a masterpiece, solve equations, invent and repair >>>>>>> machines, teach a child, help a friend, respect and love a woman (and >>>>>>> be respected and loved by her), play sports, make a just decision, >>>>>>> climb a volcano, dress plainly and elegantly, defeat oppression with >>>>>>> a band of brothers, never say die but die bravely, dance willingly, >>>>>>> retain a sense of humour, treat animals kindly, love God, speak >>>>>>> honestly, and act resourcefully in the face of adversity. . ." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Or at least Spartan women do... >>>>>> There ya go :-) Robert Heinlein gets the credit for mine: 'Time Enough for >>>>>> Love' >>>>> A great man... >>>> Sure, if you appreciate big government fascists... >>> Don't tell me. >>> You think Starship Troopers advocated such a government, right ? >> The book did not tell much about the government, just the Utopian method >> of choosing same. Even the author admits so in the story. > > Are you changing your claim now ? > Is it facist or utopian ? > > >>>> OK author, bad political theorist. >>> You never read much of his work then I take it ? >> Obviously more than you... > > Wow now that's a reasoned statement. Quote
Guest Dan Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 tankfixer wrote: > In article <_PYHj.325$Lt7.142@newsfe06.lga>, dnadan56@hotmail.com > says... >> tankfixer wrote: >>> In article <0XOHj.2$cl7.1@newsfe05.lga>, dnadan56@hotmail.com says... >>>> tankfixer wrote: >>>>> In article <4YdHj.38$ta2.3@trndny05>, davebugg2@yahoo.com says... >>>>>> HeyBub wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I ran across something similar: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Women want men who can sail ships, set broken bones, plant crops, >>>>>>> cook dinner, write a masterpiece, solve equations, invent and repair >>>>>>> machines, teach a child, help a friend, respect and love a woman (and >>>>>>> be respected and loved by her), play sports, make a just decision, >>>>>>> climb a volcano, dress plainly and elegantly, defeat oppression with >>>>>>> a band of brothers, never say die but die bravely, dance willingly, >>>>>>> retain a sense of humour, treat animals kindly, love God, speak >>>>>>> honestly, and act resourcefully in the face of adversity. . ." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Or at least Spartan women do... >>>>>> There ya go :-) Robert Heinlein gets the credit for mine: 'Time Enough for >>>>>> Love' >>>>> A great man... >>>> Sure, if you appreciate big government fascists... >>> Don't tell me. >>> You think Starship Troopers advocated such a government, right ? >> The book did not tell much about the government, just the Utopian method >> of choosing same. Even the author admits so in the story. > > Are you changing your claim now ? > Is it facist or utopian ? What claim? Is WHAT fascist or Utopian? And explain why it cannot be both? >>>> OK author, bad political theorist. >>> You never read much of his work then I take it ? >> Obviously more than you... > > Wow now that's a reasoned statement. Thanks. Dan Quote
Guest Dan Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Gunner Asch wrote: > On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:11:33 -0700, tankfixer > <paul.carrier@us.kat.army.mil> wrote: > >>>>>>>> Or at least Spartan women do... >>>>>>> There ya go :-) Robert Heinlein gets the credit for mine: 'Time Enough for >>>>>>> Love' >>>>>> A great man... >>>>> Sure, if you appreciate big government fascists... >>>> Don't tell me. >>>> You think Starship Troopers advocated such a government, right ? >>> The book did not tell much about the government, just the Utopian method >>> of choosing same. Even the author admits so in the story. >> Are you changing your claim now ? >> Is it facist or utopian ? >> >> >>>>> OK author, bad political theorist. >>>> You never read much of his work then I take it ? >>> Obviously more than you... >> Wow now that's a reasoned statement. > > I gave up on Dandan ever being capable of a reasoned statement when he > claimed RAH was a "big government fascist" > > Gunner Which is why you remain the ignorant lout you are so proud of being. Dan Quote
Guest Dan Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Bill wrote: > Gunner Asch <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in > news:b6u0v3hcduhg6hevviho74fnb7vf7fv8pg@4ax.com: > > <snip>w now that's a reasoned statement. >> I gave up on Dandan ever being capable of a reasoned statement when he >> claimed RAH was a "big government fascist" >> >> Gunner >> >> <snip> > > To be fair he probably based it on the movie 'Starship Troopers' and has > never had any of RAHs book read to him...... > > > Bill To be fair, you know nothing of which you speak, which is obvious from your reply. Have you ever read any of his stuff? Dan Quote
Guest Gunner Asch Posted April 1, 2008 Posted April 1, 2008 On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:45:34 -0500, Bill <wpflumus@yahoo.com> wrote: >Gunner Asch <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in >news:b6u0v3hcduhg6hevviho74fnb7vf7fv8pg@4ax.com: > ><snip>w now that's a reasoned statement. >> >> I gave up on Dandan ever being capable of a reasoned statement when he >> claimed RAH was a "big government fascist" >> >> Gunner >> >> <snip> > >To be fair he probably based it on the movie 'Starship Troopers' and has >never had any of RAHs book read to him...... > > >Bill Probably true. Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner Quote
Guest robw Posted April 1, 2008 Posted April 1, 2008 I'm in yours because of your moronic "I have a Victoria's Secret Model" lie. "Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message news:t8u0v3539ul6k0t4299tn3if8mp0skfbbm@4ax.com... > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:08:13 -0600, Omelet <ompomelet@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >In article <75ednaM6t7hNbHLanZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@comcast.com>, > > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote: > > > >> No, I could have a firearm. > >> > >> Now explain why four of the bullets that hit the cement steps we were hiding > >> behind came from the cops. > >> > >> Your turn. > >> > >> > >> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:ompomelet-17EF47.14214530032008@news.giganews.com... > >> > In article <47efda73$0$5612$607ed4bc@cv.net>, > >> > AstonBarrett <FAMILYMAN@Bass.gov.> wrote: > >> > > >> > > robw, the top posting retard wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > And what if one through four hits innocent people? > >> > > > >> > > My aim is true. > >> > > If #1 doesn't stop the attack, then I will fire rounds #2 through > >> > > whatever. > >> > > My shots don't "MURDER" (let alone hit) innocent people. > >> > > > >> > > Why are YOU such a bad shot? > >> > > > >> > > Oh That's right! YOU can't HAVE a firearm, and YOU don't know how to > >> aim! > >> > > >> > Seconded. > > > >Many CCW/CHL holders are better shots than the cops. > > > >And please stop top posting. It screws up the conversation flow. > >-- > Robw is in most normal peoples kill files as being to Stupid to > figure out how to post normally. > > Gunner > > > > "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. > Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) > off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give > them self determination under "play nice" rules. > > Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you > for torturing the cat." Gunner Quote
Guest robw Posted April 1, 2008 Posted April 1, 2008 Ask Gunner about his former girlfriend. "Dave Bugg" <davebugg2@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Ld1Ij.5837$Ps1.2820@trndny08... > Gunner Asch wrote: > > > Robw is in most normal peoples kill files as being to Stupid to > > figure out how to post normally. > > Even amongst his fellow top-posting morons, he's an idiot. > -- > Dave > "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, > butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance > accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, > give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new > problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight > efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." > > Quote
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