Obama's "Bitter" Comment Halts Momentum

[Guest Amanda Williams]

znuybv <thowilson@gmail.com> allegedly said in news:943c9b90-46e0-49e0-

a3a5-2804b38ae22b@i36g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> On Apr 14, 1:29 pm, "bvall...@aol.com" <bvall...@aol.com> wrote:

>> .> What's wrong with what he said?

>>

>> .

>> He insulted about 80% of the people he needs to vote for him.

>

> So what? Maybe he doesn't want those gun toting Christians voting for

> him. Carville says he's trying to mobilize white elitist Liberals to

> propel him into the White House.

>

 

None of those fucking inbred rednecks were going to vote for him anyways...

 

Zero sum game

 

--

AW

 

<small but dangerous>

[Guest bvallely@aol.com]

> > > "I was able to studied" ?

..

> > > Geez... ClayDOH!! you (MISSPELLING) manage to hide all that education

> very well.

..

> > > From your posts we all assumed (THAT) you lived in a trailer in Bumfuck,

> Arkanas

> > > or in some redneck/hillbilly shithole like texass (MISSPELLING) and

> survived on

> > > welfare.

..

> > > Amazing... is your name really Clay ????

..

> > > As for (QUOTATION MARK) The Obama (END QUOTATION MARK) ? (UNNECESSARY QUESTION MARK) I suspect he is falling into the trap of starting to

> > > believe his own propoganda. (MISSPELLING)

..

> > > But I do find it funny that reichtards, (MISSPELLING) whose whole ethos

> is about slavishly sucking big corporate dick and pissing all over ordinary folks

> > > in the process, should be accusing ANYBODY of being "elitist"...

..

> > And yet you feel comfortable attacking Clay for a very minor typo.

> > Amazing, indeed.

..

> ....and this comes from bvalley who is the first one to jump on a typo????

..

When I attack a typo, I make every effort to assure that my own prose

is bulletproof.

 

It's the honest, SOBER, way to proceed. You wouldn't understand.

 

..

[Guest bvallely@aol.com]

On Apr 14, 4:53 pm, Amanda Williams <p...@fu.com> wrote:

> "bvall...@aol.com" <bvall...@aol.com> allegedly said innews:eab22524-40a3-4740-86a6-bd78127aae47@q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

>

>

>

> > .

> >> "I was able to studied" ?

> > .

> >> Geez... ClayDOH!! you (MISSPELLING) manage to hide all that education

> >> very well.

> > .

> >> From your posts we all assumed (THAT) you lived in a trailer in

> >> Bumfuck, Arkanas or in some redneck/hillbilly shithole like texass

> >> (MISSPELLING) and survived on welfare.

> > .

> >> Amazing... is your name really Clay ????

..

> >> As for The Obama? I suspect he is falling into the trap of starting

> >> to believe his own propoganda. (MISSPELLING)

..

> >> But I do find it funny that reichtards, (MISSPELLING) whose whole

> >> ethos is about slavishly sucking big corporate dick and pissing all

> >> over ordinary folks in the process, should be accusing ANYBODY of

> >> being "elitist"...

..

> > And yet you feel comfortable attacking Clay for a very minor typo.

> > Amazing, indeed.

..

> WTF are you babbling about valleyLOON ???

..

I'm pointing out that you're a semi-literate fool who is in no

position to question anyone else's typos.

 

No kidding, considering how much of your life you spend on Usenet, one

would think that you would at least become a moderately competent

writer.

..

[Guest bvallely@aol.com]

..

> How as what he said an insult.

..

I don't know, Bizarro Clark Kent; how AS what he said an insult?

..

[Guest bvallely@aol.com]

..

> >> .> What's wrong with what he said?

..

> >> He insulted about 80% of the people he needs to vote for him.

..

> > So what? Maybe he doesn't want those gun toting Christians voting for

> > him. Carville says he's trying to mobilize white elitist Liberals to

> > propel him into the White House.

..

> None of those fucking inbred rednecks were going to vote for him anyways...

..

Considering your extremely limited literary skills, where do you get

off calling anyone a redneck?

[Guest robw]

Ah, so when you're not attacking a typo you write moronic stuff like "My

joke are funny"??

 

I get it.

 

(snicker)

 

 

 

<bvallely@aol.com> wrote in message

news:b9d4777f-1880-4558-8c0e-66a3c1137cdf@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com...

> > > > "I was able to studied" ?

> .

> > > > Geez... ClayDOH!! you (MISSPELLING) manage to hide all that

education

> > very well.

> .

> > > > From your posts we all assumed (THAT) you lived in a trailer in

Bumfuck,

> > Arkanas

> > > > or in some redneck/hillbilly shithole like texass (MISSPELLING) and

> > survived on

> > > > welfare.

> .

> > > > Amazing... is your name really Clay ????

> .

> > > > As for (QUOTATION MARK) The Obama (END QUOTATION MARK) ?

(UNNECESSARY QUESTION MARK) I suspect he is falling into the trap of

starting to

> > > > believe his own propoganda. (MISSPELLING)

> .

> > > > But I do find it funny that reichtards, (MISSPELLING) whose whole

ethos

> > is about slavishly sucking big corporate dick and pissing all over

ordinary folks

> > > > in the process, should be accusing ANYBODY of being "elitist"...

> .

> > > And yet you feel comfortable attacking Clay for a very minor typo.

> > > Amazing, indeed.

> .

> > ....and this comes from bvalley who is the first one to jump on a

typo????

> .

> When I attack a typo, I make every effort to assure that my own prose

> is bulletproof.

>

> It's the honest, SOBER, way to proceed. You wouldn't understand.

>

> .

[Guest robw]

I would point out that you've posted many more times than Amanda has these

last couple months.

 

I got worried that something had happened to her.

 

I love a girl that can put it to an impotent moron like you......

 

 

<bvallely@aol.com> wrote in message

news:6eb447c8-a059-4868-b368-bbf49a14c545@q27g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> On Apr 14, 4:53 pm, Amanda Williams <p...@fu.com> wrote:

> > "bvall...@aol.com" <bvall...@aol.com> allegedly said

innews:eab22524-40a3-4740-86a6-bd78127aae47@q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> >

> >

> >

> > > .

> > >> "I was able to studied" ?

> > > .

> > >> Geez... ClayDOH!! you (MISSPELLING) manage to hide all that education

> > >> very well.

> > > .

> > >> From your posts we all assumed (THAT) you lived in a trailer in

> > >> Bumfuck, Arkanas or in some redneck/hillbilly shithole like texass

> > >> (MISSPELLING) and survived on welfare.

> > > .

> > >> Amazing... is your name really Clay ????

> .

> > >> As for The Obama? I suspect he is falling into the trap of starting

> > >> to believe his own propoganda. (MISSPELLING)

> .

> > >> But I do find it funny that reichtards, (MISSPELLING) whose whole

> > >> ethos is about slavishly sucking big corporate dick and pissing all

> > >> over ordinary folks in the process, should be accusing ANYBODY of

> > >> being "elitist"...

> .

> > > And yet you feel comfortable attacking Clay for a very minor typo.

> > > Amazing, indeed.

> .

> > WTF are you babbling about valleyLOON ???

> .

> I'm pointing out that you're a semi-literate fool who is in no

> position to question anyone else's typos.

>

> No kidding, considering how much of your life you spend on Usenet, one

> would think that you would at least become a moderately competent

> writer.

> .

[Guest robw]

Ah yes, Obama will loose the election but the Repubs won't take back

Congress.

 

You're like the little dog that chases the car.

 

 

"znuybv" <thowilson@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:a00e8514-4cc4-4177-b3bf-41453901907b@a5g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

> On Apr 14, 7:23 am, "McNailbomb" <Hanoi Radio

> McBom...@bushcocksucker.net> wrote:

> > "Clay" <Clays0n...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >

> >

news:f48b2940-e137-4737-b4b9-d9d8cae73ef5@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

> > On Apr 14, 10:10 am, "f. barnes" wrote:

> > ...

> >

> >

> >

> > > On Apr 14, 8:33 am, "John B." <johnb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >

> > > > On Apr 14, 9:03 am, Clay <clays0nl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >

> > > > > Monday, April 14, 2008

> > > > > CAMPAIGN NEWS

> > > > > Obama's "Bitter" Comment Halts His Momentum

> > > > > Sen. Barack Obama's campaign spent the weekend dealing with

fallout

> > > > > from comments he made about small town Pennsylvania voters last

week

> > > > > during a private fundraiser in San Francisco. Obama, who remarks

were

> > > > > first reported by Huffington Post on Friday, said at the event,

"You

> > > > > go into these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small

> > > > > towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and

> > > > > nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton

> > > > > Administration and the Bush Administration, and each successive

> > > > > administration has said that somehow these communities are going

to

> > > > > regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising, then, they

get

> > > > > bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who

> > > > > aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade

sentiment

> > > > > as a way to explain their frustrations," according to the

Washington

> > > > > Post. After drawing limited media attention on Saturday, the

remarks

> > > > > began to generate a furor yesterday, and continued to reverberate

in

> > > > > the latest news cycle, drowning out the candidates' appearance at

the

> > > > > faith and compassion forum at Messiah College yesterday.

> >

> > > > > USA Today reports Sen. Hillary Clinton and her allies yesterday

went

> > > > > on the offensive, charging that Obama's comments "showed him to be

> > > > > elitist and vulnerable to the kind of Republican attacks that have

> > > > > sunk Democratic candidates in the past." ABC World News reported

in

> > > > > its lead story last night, "Here in Pennsylvania, Hillary Clinton

is

> > > > > seeking to redefine Obama as a champion of the politics of

> > > > > bitterness." Clinton said, "I think his comments were elitist and

> > > > > divisive. And the Democratic Party has been, unfortunately, viewed

by

> > > > > many people over the last decades as being elitist and out of

touch."

> > > > > NBC Nightly News, also in its lead story, reported Obama's "recent

> > > > > depiction of small town voters as bitter and clinging to guns and

> > > > > religion is reverberating loudly on the campaign trail tonight.

And

> > > > > while Obama admits those words were not well chosen, the Hillary

> > > > > Clinton campaign has made it the centerpiece of a new round of

> > > > > attacks." "

> >

> > > > > The AP reports Clinton "tried to portray herself as an ally of the

> > > > > middle class on Sunday by keeping alive Barack Obama's comments

about

> > > > > bitter voters in small towns while taking her campaign door to

door"

> > > > > in Scranton. Clinton said, "Senator Obama has not owned up to what

he

> > > > > said and taken accountability for it. What people are looking for

is

> > > > > an explanation. What does he really believe? How does he see

people

> > > > > here in this neighborhood, throughout Pennsylvania, Indiana, North

> > > > > Carolina, other places in our country?"

> >

> > > > > The Washington Post reports that at the Messiah College forum,

Clinton

> > > > > argued that the comments "reinforced a stereotype of

'out-of-touch'

> > > > > Democrats that doomed the party's last two presidential nominees."

> > > > > Clinton said, "We had two very good men, and men of faith, run for

> > > > > president in 2000 and 2004. But large segments of the electorate

> > > > > concluded that they did not really understand or relate to or

frankly

> > > > > respect their ways of life." Clinton "repeated her view that Obama

had

> > > > > been 'elitist...and frankly patronizing.'"

> >

> > > > > The AP reports that in Jim Thorpe, PA, yesterday, ex-President

Bill

> > > > > Clinton weighed in on the controversy surrounding Obama's remarks,

> > > > > saying during an appearance at Jim Thorpe Area High School, "Right

> > > > > before I came out at my last event, a man came up to me and he

said,

> > > > > 'Mr. President, I want you to know something about the working

people

> > > > > of Pennsylvania. We're not bitter about anything. We're proud. But

we

> > > > > do want a better deal for the people of our country and for our

> > > > > children.' And that's what Hillary wants to give you."

> >

> > > > > Obama Hits Back The AP reports Obama "lashed out" at Clinton

yesterday

> > > > > at a union hall in Steelton, Pennsylvania. Obama said, "She knows

> > > > > better. Shame on her. Shame on her." The AP adds Obama "reiterated

his

> > > > > regret for his choice of words at the fundraiser but suggested

they

> > > > > had been twisted and mischaracterized. He said he'd expected

blowback

> > > > > from GOP nominee-in-waiting John McCain, but had been 'a little

> > > > > disappointed' to be criticized by Clinton." The Chicago Tribune

adds

> > > > > Obama, "stepping up his defense" yesterday, saying in Steelton,

"She

> > > > > is running around talking about how this is an insult to

sportsmen,

> > > > > how she values the 2nd Amendment. She's talking like she is Annie

> > > > > Oakley."

> >

> > > > > -------

> >

> > > > > -C-

> >

> > > > What's wrong with what he said?- Hide quoted text -

> >

> > > > - Show quoted text -

> >

> > > He claimed that the cherished beliefs and ideals we hold onto and

> > > embrace are the result of "bitterness". No one denies that people are

> > > bitter; they have every right to be bitter. But when times were good

> > > we embraced God and the 2nd amendment, we embrace God and the 2nd

> > > amendment now, and if times improve we will still cling to those same

> > > beliefs and ideals.

> >

> > > City people think that rural folk are illiterate, ignorant, hicks.

> > > But I will put our high school seniors up against your city high

> > > school seniors on reading, math, and science any day. We can also

> > > compare dropout rates, drug usage, and violence in the classroom.

> > > Then we will see who is ignorant and illiterate. The city kids will

> > > likely beat us on social conditioning; city kids have to learn to live

> > > as hive creatures or herd animals in the crowds.

> >

> > Not only that, but Sen. Hope & Change never really thought that his

> > words would be heard outside his little cadre of fellow liberal

> > elitists.

> >

> > "Psyche !!!"

> >

> > -C-

> >

> > It's just more fuel for Rove and another way to dump the real issues;

Bush

> > is a failure, Iraq is lost, the economy sucks but... but... but... look

over

> > THERE at Obama.

>

> The real issue in this campaign is Obama. He and the company he keeps

> are making him the issue.

[Guest robw]

First off, Amanda is absolutely correct.

Those people in Western Pa.ere never going to vote for Obama anyway.

 

But then you have to puff up and talk about literary skills?

 

You edited a porno comic.

 

You got away with this bollocks before.

 

It's all over now.

 

 

 

 

<bvallely@aol.com> wrote in message

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> .

> > >> .> What's wrong with what he said?

> .

> > >> He insulted about 80% of the people he needs to vote for him.

> .

> > > So what? Maybe he doesn't want those gun toting Christians voting for

> > > him. Carville says he's trying to mobilize white elitist Liberals to

> > > propel him into the White House.

> .

> > None of those fucking inbred rednecks were going to vote for him

anyways...

> .

> Considering your extremely limited literary skills, where do you get

> off calling anyone a redneck?

[Guest robw]

"how AS"????

 

You make it sooooo easy.

 

 

 

 

<bvallely@aol.com> wrote in message

news:106b7817-fc7b-47fd-b2ff-695d163bbc64@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...

> .

> > How as what he said an insult.

> .

> I don't know, Bizarro Clark Kent; how AS what he said an insult?

> .

[Guest bvallely@aol.com]

..

> I would point out that you've posted many more times than Amanda has these

> last couple months.

..

I produce sparkling prose, while hers resembles the wailing heard in

any lower class detox center.

[Guest Harold Burton]

In article

<1cd680a2-b3f1-404b-b1c1-26aa86680fdd@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,

"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 14, 9:03

[Guest bvallely@aol.com]

..

> Ah yes, Obama will loose (IT'S "LOSE", NOT "LOOSE", YOU IDIOT) the election but the Repubs won't take back Congress.>

..

Wasn't it just a few weeks ago that you were every bit as certain

Obama was a slam dunk to win the White House?

..

> You're like the little dog that chases the car.

..

In case you haven't notice, McCain is the little dog who caught the

car, ate the driver and is now roaring down the I-15 for a Hell of a

weekend in Vegas.

[Guest Harold Burton]

In article <Xns9A80A14F1944Cfubar@63.218.45.252>,

Amanda Williams <pms@fu.com> wrote:

> Clay <Clays0nTop@gmail.com> allegedly said in news:c3537e7a-504e-4767-

> a56a-d95244769667@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

>

> > On Apr 14, 9:33

[Guest Harold Burton]

In article

<eab22524-40a3-4740-86a6-bd78127aae47@q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

"bvallely@aol.com" <bvallely@aol.com> wrote:

> .

> > "I was able to studied" ?

> .

> > Geez... ClayDOH!! you (MISSPELLING) manage to hide all that education very

> > well.

> .

> > From your posts we all assumed (THAT) you lived in a trailer in Bumfuck,

> > Arkanas

> > or in some redneck/hillbilly shithole like texass (MISSPELLING) and

> > survived on

> > welfare.

> .

> > Amazing... is your name really Clay ????

> .

> > As for The Obama? I suspect he is falling into the trap of starting to

> > believe his own propoganda. (MISSPELLING)

> .

> > But I do find it funny that reichtards, (MISSPELLING) whose whole ethos is

> > about

> > slavishly sucking big corporate dick and pissing all over ordinary folks

> > in the process, should be accusing ANYBODY of being "elitist"...

> .

> And yet you feel comfortable attacking Clay for a very minor typo.

> Amazing, indeed.

 

 

 

mandy is very bitter.

[Guest bvallely@aol.com]

..

> >> WE KNOW you are ignorant rednecks and hillbillies and the main reason

> >> that we have a retarded chimp, squatting in the whitehouse,

> >> destroying this nation.

..

Tell me, Amanda, since you have such utter contempt for hillbillies,

why do you write like one?

[Guest Harold Burton]

In article <Xns9A80CA6D277D2fubar@63.218.45.252>,

Amanda Williams <pms@fu.com> wrote:

> "bvallely@aol.com" <bvallely@aol.com> allegedly said in

> news:eab22524-40a3-4740-86a6-bd78127aae47@q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

>

> > .

> >> "I was able to studied" ?

> > .

> >> Geez... ClayDOH!! you (MISSPELLING) manage to hide all that education

> >> very well.

> > .

> >> From your posts we all assumed (THAT) you lived in a trailer in

> >> Bumfuck, Arkanas or in some redneck/hillbilly shithole like texass

> >> (MISSPELLING) and survived on welfare.

> > .

> >> Amazing... is your name really Clay ????

> > .

> >> As for The Obama? I suspect he is falling into the trap of starting

> >> to believe his own propoganda. (MISSPELLING)

> > .

> >> But I do find it funny that reichtards, (MISSPELLING) whose whole

> >> ethos is about slavishly sucking big corporate dick and pissing all

> >> over ordinary folks in the process, should be accusing ANYBODY of

> >> being "elitist"...

> > .

> > And yet you feel comfortable attacking Clay for a very minor typo.

> > Amazing, indeed.

> >

>

> WTF are you babbling about valleyLOON ???

 

 

You're even more bitter.

 

 

Snicker.

[Guest Harold Burton]

In article <sP-dneDz9_3mn5nVnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@comcast.com>,

"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote:

> I would point out that you've posted many more times than Amanda has these

> last couple months.

 

 

And you've posted even more times.

 

Not that I disapprove. it's your excessive time on your computer that

allows your wife and me our intimate time together.

 

 

Thank you.

[Guest bvallely@aol.com]

> > > None of those fucking inbred rednecks were going to vote for him

> anyways...

..

> > Considering your extremely limited literary skills, where do you get

> > off calling anyone a redneck?

..

> First off, Amanda is absolutely correct.

> Those people in Western Pa.(SPACE BETWEEN WORDS NEEDED) ere (SPELLING MISTAKE) never going to vote for Obama anyway.

..

Except that they WERE voting for Obama, until he implied that they

were inbred hillbillies.

 

Remember? You bragged constantly that Obama was ahead in Penn? Now,

according to one poll, Hussein has dropped twenty points last week

alone.

> But then you have to puff up and talk about literary skills?

..

Of course.

..

> You edited a porno comic.

..

An internationally published porno comic.

..

> You got away with this bollocks (SPELLING MISTAKE) before.

..

You've tried to make that an issue, and wound up sounding like a

small, bitter child who was intensely jealous of anyone who's made

something of his life.

 

After all, it's not like you've ever been published.

[Guest bvallely@aol.com]

..

> > > How as what he said an insult.

..

> > I don't know, Bizarro Clark Kent; how AS what he said an insult?

> > .

..

> "how AS"????

..

I admit that it's a mess - but you wrote it.

..

> You make it sooooo easy..

..

Make exactly WHAT "easy"? And when are you going to do this "easy"

thing?

[Guest Harold Burton]

In article

<23f6a930-4382-4816-b0d4-9673deaf1229@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,

"bvallely@aol.com" <bvallely@aol.com> wrote:

> .

> > >> WE KNOW you are ignorant rednecks and hillbillies and the main reason

> > >> that we have a retarded chimp, squatting in the whitehouse,

> > >> destroying this nation.

> .

> Tell me, Amanda, since you have such utter contempt for hillbillies,

> why do you write like one?

 

 

She's stupider than one?

[Guest robw]

"My joke are actually funny."

 

you posted that .

 

 

Were you drinking when you posted that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

<bvallely@aol.com> wrote in message

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> .

> > I would point out that you've posted many more times than Amanda has

these

> > last couple months.

> .

> I produce sparkling prose, while hers resembles the wailing heard in

> any lower class detox center.

[Guest Harold Burton]

In article <QOqdnfwDeJ-jmJnVnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com>,

"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote:

> First off, Amanda is absolutely incorrect.

 

 

Finally you get something right.

[Guest Harold Burton]

In article

<5fa32a27-67fa-43a4-85e9-7adf89902050@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,

"bvallely@aol.com" <bvallely@aol.com> wrote:

> .

> > Ah yes, Obama will loose (IT'S "LOSE", NOT "LOOSE", YOU IDIOT) the election

> > but the Repubs won't take back Congress.>

> .

> Wasn't it just a few weeks ago that you were every bit as certain

> Obama was a slam dunk to win the White House?

 

 

 

don't confuse the idiot robw with inconvenient facts.

[Guest robw]

Actually, no.

 

please post where I said Obama would win or where i ever said I've voted for

a dem presidential candidate.

 

 

Put it right here----------

 

 

You're not going take back Congress.

 

No less than FNC admits that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

<bvallely@aol.com> wrote in message

news:5fa32a27-67fa-43a4-85e9-7adf89902050@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com...

> .

> > Ah yes, Obama will loose (IT'S "LOSE", NOT "LOOSE", YOU IDIOT) the

election but the Repubs won't take back Congress.>

> .

> Wasn't it just a few weeks ago that you were every bit as certain

> Obama was a slam dunk to win the White House?

> .

> > You're like the little dog that chases the car.

> .

> In case you haven't notice, McCain is the little dog who caught the

> car, ate the driver and is now roaring down the I-15 for a Hell of a

> weekend in Vegas.