Hezbollah pledges "Open War"

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

You don't understand. I may have been born in the USA, I may be living in Canada. Just as much as I love both countries, Lebanon is my home.

Please, Ham-Head... go back and fight the evil the evil zionists.. funny how people from all of the 3rd world shit holes "live" in the west, and then call the 3rd world shit-hole "home".

 

We're you traumatized on 9/11? I was. You must hate terrorists. I do.

I'm sure you care.

 

I am feeling the same thing right now just 10x more since both my grandparents are in critical condition right now in a low-end Lebanese hospital. Both have lost their hands, one has lost their leg, one is now blind... And for what? They're not terrorists. As soon as they heard about the Israeli air strikes they immediatley left most of their belongings and moved as far up north as possible. While driving they hit a bunch of large rocks and crashed into the side of a building. Only seconds later the building was hit, and from the 11 story building came down a generator and three huge boulders from the top, hitting the top of their car head on. Yes, I was wrong for what I said but perhaps you don't understand how angry I was. Those grandparents raised me along with my uncle while my parents were going through a divorce.

Please, Hamza... go and fight the evil zionists who did this! Quit being a hypocritical pussy and do something.

 

Me, Hamza, Condemns terrorism, holds speechs at Mosques when it's doors are open to non-Muslims, rants on forums like these, convince and educate other Muslims on what we need to do to help fight extremism... Basically, you're calling me all that what I strive to eradicate.

Spoken like a true hypocrit of islam... you give speeches on the evils of terrorism when the doors are open to non-pig-shit-worshippers (indicating that you do quite the opposite when your exclusive pig-shit club is in secret session. What do you then? Hmm? Send care packages to Osama Bin Laden, probably.

 

Just how many muslims have you "convinced" that terrorism is evil? What a crock!

[snafu]

Hopefully someone will give your grandparents a hand..or two.

 

 

That's cold! Fuck hugo have a little respect.

 

Is it that good in Lebanon? The pay, I meant? Many of the trapped civvies are simply holidaying, or catching up with relatives.

 

Holidaying? in Lebanon? yeah "come stay us. With our tranquil evenings caped of with fireworks for your night time enjoyment".

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

That's cold! Fuck hugo have a little respect.

 

 

 

Holidaying? in Lebanon? yeah "come stay us. With our tranquil evenings caped of with fireworks for your night time enjoyment".

Snafu, in hugo's defense... Ham-Head is full of shit. He may have relatives in Lebanon, but I doubt they're hurt. Ham-Head is constantly making up crap to boost his deflated ego. Like the hanging black friend, the hand-less grandparents is an invention of his imagination.

[Hamza123]

Snafu, in hugo's defense... Ham-Head is full of shit. He may have relatives in Lebanon, but I doubt they're hurt. Ham-Head is constantly making up crap to boost his deflated ego. Like the hanging black friend, the hand-less grandparents is an invention of his imagination.

 

Dude you're the idiot making shit up about Islam.

 

Look at how many people are injured in Lebanon.

 

Perhaps if I ever see them again ill take a picture for you. You can hang it on your wall of dead civilians.

 

You're neo-conservative scum that denies any racist activity caused by your kind.

[Hamza123]

Spoken like a true hypocrit of islam... you give speeches on the evils of terrorism when the doors are open to non-pig-shit-worshippers (indicating that you do quite the opposite when your exclusive pig-shit club is in secret session. What do you then? Hmm? Send care packages to Osama Bin Laden, probably.

 

Dude, shut the fuck up and prove something on Islam. Quit saying you have. Islam is defined by the Qur'an. Not what people claim it is.

 

I challenge you to find where it says "Kill children in suicide missions, kill innocent people". Too bad I know you won't find anything since I have asked you to do so before, and I know it's not in the Qur'an.

 

Please, Ham-Head... go back and fight the evil the evil zionists.. funny how people from all of the 3rd world shit holes "live" in the west, and then call the 3rd world shit-hole "home".

 

Way to generalize the whole lot of your immigrants... I never said this was a shithole place. You're putting words in my mouth and lying.

 

I'm sure you care.

 

Yeah, I'm sure I do.

 

Please, Hamza... go and fight the evil zionists who did this! Quit being a hypocritical pussy and do something.

 

So what now, I condemn terrorism, but at the slightest time I condemn Israel you jump all over me...

 

Go fuck yourself.

 

You said, "Saudi" was next in a post.

 

Hmm... well. Do you know who fuels your F-16s? Your tanks? Your Humvees?

 

Surely it's NOT American bought oil because if it was, than your home oil prices would be 10 dollars a litre.

 

Saudi Arabia also provides food for your troops.

 

http://www.usace.army.mil/publications/eng-pamphlets/ep870-1-50/c-3.pdf

 

Not to mention all the American air bases in Saudi.

 

 

MRIH, with contrast to yourself and someone who both yourself and I heavily respect like Jesus, I wouldn't call yourself a Christian. What part of "Thou shalt not..." didn't you understand?

[Hamza123]

Here, I shortened it for your ass so you would actually read it.

 

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3016/untitled1ls8.jpg

[Hamza123]

Hopefully someone will give your grandparents a hand..or two.

 

Hopefully someone will give you a proper non neo-conservative brain to work with.

[ImWithStupid]

Here, I shortened it for your ass so you would actually read it.

 

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3016/untitled1ls8.jpg

 

You do realize that that pamphlet refers to Desert Shield/Desert Storm, and that conflict in Iraq was 14 years ago.

[ImWithStupid]

Hopefully someone will give you a proper non neo-conservative brain to work with.

 

Before you start sounding too much like TH, and not knowing what you are saying.

 

FYI, a neo-conservative (neo-con), would be someone who was once a liberal and is now, slid to the right or are following more conservative views. That means the people you call this, would have had to once be liberal. I'm not sure it applies to most of the people you are referring to.

 

Just trying to help.

[jokersarewild]

Before you start sounding too much like TH, and not knowing what you are saying.

 

FYI, a neo-conservative (neo-con), would be someone who was once a liberal and is now, slid to the right or are following more conservative views. That means the people you call this, would have had to once be liberal. I'm not sure it applies to most of the people you are referring to.

 

Just trying to help.

 

That's no necessarily true. It can also be a conservative who has started following new(neo) Conservative attitudes that weren't there before.

 

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism_(United_States)

 

(and before you jump down my throat for "wiki-ing it", I got the definition from google and it linked to wiki. http://www.google.com/search?hs=qdG&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=define%3Aneoconservatism&btnG=Search)

[Hamza123]

You do realize that that pamphlet refers to Desert Shield/Desert Storm, and that conflict in Iraq was 14 years ago.

 

Exactly. Thanks for bringing that up...

 

The Desert Storm conflict that occured in Iraq is not as large a conflict as the Iraq War going on now, resulting in an even greater need for Saudi Arabia. Therefore MRIH is wrong to say what he said about Saudi.

[ImWithStupid]

Exactly. Thanks for bringing that up...

 

The Desert Storm conflict that occured in Iraq is not as large a conflict as the Iraq War going on now, resulting in an even greater need for Saudi Arabia. Therefore MRIH is wrong to say what he said about Saudi.

 

That or the fact that during Desert Storm, Iraq was threatening the Saudi boarder and had more of an incentive to help.

[Hamza123]

That or the fact that during Desert Storm, Iraq was threatening the Saudi boarder and had more of an incentive to help.

 

Militarily, yes, however they still provide food and fuel and even though a small number, they have troops in Saudi. I am not saying this is not or is a bad thing, I am simply explaning, in one way, that 'nuking Saudi Arabia' is very stupid.

[hugo]

My great-great-grandmother just had her eyebrows singed by a Hezbollah missile.

[Hamza123]

BullShit, Ham Head! Typical argumentative distraction... Hezbollah (islam) kidnapped an israeli soldier... They will now get what they deserve! Hezbollah targetted (yeah right, accidentally on purpose maybe) a civilian commercial ship yestreday.

 

Israeli's are NOT on a defensive.

 

You can't defend yourself, when you're militarily occupying somebody elses land. Thats not defense. Call it what you like, thats not defense.

[Hamza123]

My great-great-grandmother just had her eyebrows singed by a Hezbollah missile.

 

Your comments in light of some of my personal issues disgust me. You truly should be ashamed of them. It just shows how your Israel-Arab opinion is not swayed by fairness... But by your discriminent and hostile tone.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

Israeli's are NOT on a defensive.

 

You can't defend yourself, when you're militarily occupying somebody elses land. Thats not defense. Call it what you like, thats not defense.

If the rest of your islamic military leaders are as smart as you, we'll have no problem occupying even more of your lands... you make me laugh.

[Hamza123]

If the rest of your islamic military leaders are as smart as you, we'll have no problem occupying even more of your lands... you make me laugh.

 

Hmm... You would only wish they were. Actually no, not for your sake.

 

The funny thing is, you admit to occupying even more of our lands. This is why you're in no place of power within the government. They elect some "lesser" idiots.

 

You don't make me laugh. You disgust me.

[Hamza123]

Orthodox and Torah abiding Jews don't even believe a state of Israel should be created...

 

The Orthodox Jewish leadership and the Torah abiding Jews universally, have fought the ideology of Zionism and the State of “Israel”, since its inception and up until the present day.

 

What could be the reason for the most devout element of Jewish adherers, to be in such vehement opposition to such a seemingly “holy” and “Jewish” cause, as the State of “Israel”?

 

The Rabbis constantly declared that Judaism and Zionism are extreme opposites because...

 

Judaism is a G-dliness and spirituality, Zionism is its transformation into materialism with nationalistic aspirations. The fathers of this relatively new ideology of Zionism (approximately 100 years), have taken the Almighty out of the equation. The Rabbis further declared that Jews are forbidden to have a State of “Israel”, because…

 

The Jewish people were sent into exile by divine decree. They were then expressly commanded by the Almighty, not to attempt to leave their exilic existence through any human intervention. (Talmud, Tractate Kesuboth, p.111). (There you go MRIH. The Jewish people are FORBIDDEN to have their own state according to the Torah. Here is a photo of Rabbis holding a sign that shuns your opinion of Israel.

 

http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Demonstrations/2006July18/IMG_0334.jpg

 

The Jewish people are forbidden to oppress another people. The creation of the State of “Israel” came about through, the theft from, subjugation and oppression of, the Palestinian people.

 

The Rabbis stated, that the State of “Israel” will result in unending pain, suffering and bloodshed. May the Almighty protect His creations.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

(There you go MRIH. The Jewish people are FORBIDDEN to have their own state according to the Torah.

1) That is like, your oppinion, man.

2) Who cares who is ridding the world of hezbollah, as long as it's being erased.

3) Look on the scoreboard, and see who's behind!

[Hamza123]

1) That is like, your oppinion, man.

 

HAHA! It's written in the Torah, it's NOT my opinion.

 

2) Who cares who is ridding the world of hezbollah, as long as it's being erased.

 

I don't like terrorists either, but that doesn't disclude the Israeli army.

 

3) Look on the scoreboard, and see who's behind!

 

There is no such thing as a "scoreboard" in a war. You act as if it is a game to kill people. So simply you tell me to look at the scoreboard yet all it is, is a body count of innocent lives. Israel is infront, therefore they are behind!

 

Israel is not winning, they have killed hundreds more civilians than "terrorists" and Hezbollah is not winning.

 

Damn man. I though you already knew the spoils of war. I guess the discipline that the military teaches people doesn't always work...

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

Hey Ham-Head... Now that everyone can see just how stupid you are, I'll explain to you how stupid you are.

 

There is no book of "Tractate Kasoboth" in the Torah! The talmud is NOT the Torah...

 

I always find islamic stupidity very comforting!

[Hamza123]

Hey Ham-Head... Now that everyone can see just how stupid you are, I'll explain to you how stupid you are.

 

There is no book of "Tractate Kasoboth" in the Torah! The talmud is NOT the Torah...

 

I always find islamic stupidity very comforting!

 

Wow, I wonder what you were thinking trying to explain to me how stupid I am... The Talmud is NOT the Torah, but it IS apart of the Jewish faith. True Torah Jews follow the Talmud.

 

You purposley ignore http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/index.cfm whenever I post that link because you know in you're mind that you are wrong. You defy what I am posting but I am only posting what the majority of the Rabbis in the USA are saying.

 

 

Three Strong Oaths

The true Jewish position on Zionism and the state called Israel is found in the Scriptures in the Talmud and in the oral traditions transmitted to us by our parents and teachers.

 

At the outset of the Jews' exile to Babylonia, the Prophet Jeremiah, in chapter 29 of his book proclaimed G-d's message to all the exiled…Verse seven reads, "Seek out the welfare of the city to which I have exiled you and pray for it to the Almighty, for through its welfare will you have welfare." This has been a cornerstone of Jewish "foreign policy" how to behave in the lands of the nations throughout our ensuing exiles till this very day.

 

There Jeremiah adds in the name of G-d (verses 8 and 9), "Do not let your false prophets among you and your sorcerers seduce you, do not head your dreamers which you cause them to dream. For they speak falsely to you in My name. I did not send them." This too has applied to all the would-be misleaders of Jewry whether they presented themselves as prophets or as sorcerers or as dreamers of national aspirations.

 

King Solomon in Song of Songs thrice adjured the "daughters of Jerusalem" not to arouse or bestir the love until it is ready." The Talmud explains That we have been foresworn, by three strong oaths, not to ascend to the Holy Land as a group using force, not to rebel against the governments of countries in which we live, and not by our sins, to prolong the coming of moshiach; as is written in Tractate Kesubos 111a .

 

Throughout the seventy years of the Babylonian exile, throughout the 200 years of the Hellenic exile and throughout the 1917 since the destruction of G-d's Holy House, we have steadfastly maintained our loyalty to G-d and have not transgressed His oaths. And we have prayed for the welfare of the cities and the countries of our host nations that did not oppress us, and in their welfare we indeed always found ours.

 

Whoever violates Jeremiah's principles or Solomon's oaths immediately imperils the welfare of Jews locally and elsewhere in the world.

 

 

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Maimonides, Iggeres Teiman – Letter to Yemen

 

[Maimonides wrote this Letter to the Jewish Community of Yemen almost 1,000 years ago]

 

And as King Solomon knew with divine inspiration that the Jewish People would face the consequences of this and that suffering would come upon them, and warned the Jewish People not to do this (i.e. violate the Three Oaths), and in a metaphorical way made them swear not to commit these acts, as it is written in Song of Songs, 3,5: I made you swear Daughters of Jerusalem by the deer and gazelles of the field should you arouse or awaken love until it is so desired.

 

Therefore, you, dear brethren, must accept the Oath and do not attempt to arouse the love until the proper time when the Alm-ghty shall remember us and you with his trait of mercy to gather his portion from Exile to behold his glory at his holy Temple and redeem us from the Valley of the shadow of Death where he has placed us, thereby removing the darkness from our eyes and the fog from our hearts. He will then fulfill in our days and in yours the verse from Isaiah 9:1 The nation wandering in darkness shall see a great Light, and a Light shall shine on those residing in the land of the shadow of death. At that time G-d shall darken the eyes of all those who rise up against us, and fulfill the verse from Isaiah 9:2 Verily darkness shall cover the land and fog shall cover nations, but the light of G-d shall shine upon you, and you shall display his honor.

 

 

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The Maharal of Prague (Rabbi Betzalel Lowy who lived in the 17th century) explained that the prohibition of violating the Three Oaths applies even if the other nations force the Jewish People to do so.

 

In addition, he wrote in his book Netzach Yisroel (Chapter 24) that these Oaths may not be modified so as to affect the decree of Exile, and he expanded on the description in the Midrashic text on Song of Songs 2:18.

 

“Even if the nations wanted to kill the Jews with terrible torture, the Jews are forbidden to change the applicability of the Oaths. This is relevant to every one of these oaths and must be understood.” Therefore, not only is it forbidden to leave the Exile even with the permission of the nations, but even if they force the Jewish People to do so under pain of death, it is forbidden to violate these Oaths in the same way it is required to give up one’s life rather than accept another religion.

 

Even during the forced conversions under the kingdom of Portugal in the late 15th century it was forbidden to violate the Oath.

 

Rabbi Avraham Galanti, who other rabbis described as outstanding in his level of holiness, and who was a student of the great kabbalist Rabbi Moshe Cordovero in the 16th century, explained aspects of the Three Oaths in his book Zechus Avos [Merit of the Patriarchs] where he recounts how some Jews in Portugal wanted to revolt against the kingdom rather than submit to forced conversion. A rabbi quoted the verses from Song of Songs to the people who wanted to revolt, and pointed to the Talmudic tractate Ketuboth p. 111 which states that G-d made the Jewish People take three Oaths – one was that they should not rebel against G-d by rebelling against the nations. Thereafter the Jews submitted to death rather than forced conversion. Although the description in Ketuboth does not say that the Oaths involve directly rebelling against G-d, it is clear that the very violation of these Oaths is rebellion against G-d himself.

 

Nazis are the original supporters of a Zionist state. Do you not learn from history?

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

Nazis are the original supporters of a Zionist state. Do you not learn from history?

You have need downgraded from stupid to retarded.

[Hamza123]

You have need downgraded from stupid to retarded.

 

THAN PROVE ME WRONG

 

You only say that because what I write is out of your minds limited understanding. Well, in the past I have broughten down the level of my writing to see if you could understand anything, yet others do and you do not.

 

Phonics for kids or dipshits like you... I doubt it will help. But lets not be ignorant here MRIH. For your sake.

 

http://www.sadlier-oxford.com/phonics/control_page/front2.htm