Oh it's on in Columbus now !!

[phreakwars]

Yes, I will be running SERIOUSLY for city council in my hometown, I need a strategy.

 

http://columbustelegram.com/shared-content/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=373

 

What I want to know, IWS, is if YOU are serious too ??

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[ImWithStupid]

I'm serious, but didn't plan on running untill like 2012 or so.

 

I'm a bit young yet and have some personal issues, like a recent divorce and financial problems resulting from that to deal with first.

[tiredofwhiners]

I can vote for who runs in 4th ward. I agree Phreak i'll stick with Mayor Mike. With the right people he can get some good done.

[phreakwars]

Did you guys notice how Jim Dean jumped on that Mangiamelli viaduct proposal letter right after I posted it, and put it in the HOT TOPICS section ??

 

I sense BIAS in Mr. Dean

 

We encourage you to read it with two ideas in mind: keeping our citizens safe and ensuring that Columbus remains a viable economic entity as far into the future as can be envisioned. Your comments are welcomed and encouraged. - Jim Dean, managing editor.

 

Notice he ALSO spun it with "LET'S KEEP PEOPLE SAFE"

 

I'm holding out on them, I started with a simple childish response to the letter, just to draw attention to it. I don't think he liked me pissing on Mangiamelli all too well. And I really believe it coincides with the boards posts being wiped out for some strange reason or other.

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[tiredofwhiners]

Now we'll See if he leaves my post on them taking it from you. There trying to figure out how you got info they don't have. There thinking every time we turn around the Phreakwars fucks us over.

[RoyalOrleans]

Phreak you ought to get Don King to promote you.

[phreakwars]

Yeah well, here is the BEST fucking part... these idiots don't realize I am actually playing them hard. My ULTIMATE goal, is NOT to stop a viaduct from being built downtown, my ultimate goal is to make these fuckers at the city council, buckle down and help revitalize downtown Columbus.

 

IMHO a viaduct probably wouldn't hurt too much, but I fear one going in, and THEN trying to revitalize, may prove futile. I think it only fair to the citizens of Columbus, that if they will be burdened with the change in Columbus roads, then the City should act beforehand to improve the Downtown area first, it's just smart money... I'll fucking play out the "NO VIADUCT DOWNTOWN" shit until their stategy for doing so changes.

 

It would be cool as hell if you guys could get in on it and help make the City council kiss THE PEOPLES ass first, and play the "WE WANT IT PROMOTED MORE" and "MORE BUSINESS FIRST" card, you know these fuckers are gonna do what they want anyway.

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[phreakwars]

Quick conspiracy theory: Managing editor James Dean, STEALS the story... why ?? Collateral damage ??

 

Notice how he introduced it ??

 

We encourage you to read it with two ideas in mind: keeping our citizens safe and ensuring that Columbus remains a viable economic entity as far into the future as can be envisioned. Your comments are welcomed and encouraged. - Jim Dean, managing editor.

He specifically implied that the reader should be concerned about "SAFETY"

 

Then I would like to point out a statement he made before I posted the letter in the HOT TOPICS column:

 

Downtown Columbus will never be the hub that it once was, but what would you suggest to make it a more vital place? -- Jim Dean, managing editor

 

Why make a blanket statement like : Downtown Columbus will never be the hub that it once was. He is basically saying...

 

"Hey, downtown Columbus is fucked, but like, for shits and giggles.. what could we get peoples hopes up over ??"

 

Then I posted the letter and within a couple hours, something happened. Almost every entire post was wiped out for no apparent reason.

 

This EXACT SAME FUCKING THING happened years back when I layed out a "WATERPARK" outline on the board... Erase traces of what Phreak has been saying...say it was for another reason...Pat yourselves on the back and claim you thought of something.

 

I know his fucking game, he totally sucks ass with the City Council, I make an offending move, he does collateral damage for the sake of new readers who may stumble in.

 

This time however, Mr Editor, besides wiping the slate clear...chose to draw attention from the forums. He drew it into the front page where people can see it, and not into the forums which are hard to find unless you look.

 

THAT WAY, he can control what gets said by whom...He FINALLY added 1 of my comments after I publicly critisized him.

 

My next move, involves a personal talk with the Mayor.

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[tiredofwhiners]

Phreak besides Scout, IWS and I how many Columbus people are premium members?

[scout]

I hadn't been reading the forums for sometime, busy, so the posts your talking about that got wiped out were the archives? I had gone back to check on what was said in the old posts that day but they were gone. Or new ones too? What has Dean said to you? After I read your M letter/comments I kinda blew you off cuz as you said you answered it pretty childishly. But a couple hours after that I saw it on the front page.

Is it because of this thing the old mayor agreed to that we have to consider ANY viaduct? A viaduct on 3rd or there abouts to hook up with the North Arterial would make sense. I'm not against a viaduct just don't like it shoved down my throat as for my "safety" when it's really for the railroad.

How did you get the info anyway.......

[phreakwars]

Phreak besides Scout, IWS and I how many Columbus people are premium members?

Just you 3.

 

I hadn't been reading the forums for sometime, busy, so the posts your talking about that got wiped out were the archives?

Yes, all that remains of posts that have been on the board for years, is just some polls.

 

I had gone back to check on what was said in the old posts that day but they were gone. Or new ones too?

All posts less then a month old, and a couple of new ones.

 

What has Dean said to you?

Nothing yet, but he is not allowing but a couple opposition posts. This is why he drew the topic onto the main page.. So he can control what people are saying, thus, give the impression that there are mor YEAHS then NAYS.

 

Evidence: http://www.columbustelegram.com/articles/2006/07/24/news/news1aviaduct.txt

 

Read the comment at the bottom from Pete Buttaro. Mr. Dean has also only allowed 1 comment by me HERE, yet, I have submitted 7.

 

After I read your M letter/comments I kinda blew you off cuz as you said you answered it pretty childishly. But a couple hours after that I saw it on the front page.

I call that collateral damage, and pure jealousy... In addition to stealing the letter from the boards, he took it upon himself to discredit the boards relevancy and many of the posters on it before placing it in the HOT TOPICS.

Not to mention removed the "LOCATION" under my screen name, and deleted a couple of my posts in the M letter. NONE OF WHICH were derragatory in any way, they were very focused, objective recants.Why ?? If I am making a statement that is not insulting, childish, or deraggatory, and is well thought out.. WHY would he erase them, yet let other statements I am making, be seen ?? Conclusion: to discredit me.

 

 

Is it because of this thing the old mayor agreed to that we have to consider ANY viaduct? A viaduct on 3rd or there abouts to hook up with the North Arterial would make sense. I'm not against a viaduct just don't like it shoved down my throat as for my "safety" when it's really for the railroad.

Well, I have come up with a VERY comprehesive package and proposal for not only a viaduct, but for downtown Columbus vitality. I had submitted this to Mayor Moser yesterday. I E-mailed him, because I think for the most part, the mayor and I see eye to eye on alot of these issues. I would post the propasal I have made here, but, as you can see, is a very long document, and will not fit in the character limitations of the board:

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The mayor has responded to me, and for an excerpt of his response:

Dear Mr. Clark:

Thanks for your email and advice on the viaduct issue. You have raised

many interesting points, some of which have been previously considered

but not embraced by the majority of the Council. Over the next few days

I plan to talk to the Councilmen to discuss the issues you have pointed out and see what we

can agree on

 

How did you get the info anyway.......

TOW gave it to me.

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[phreakwars]

Update: Pete Buttaro has also now been censored.

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[scout]

I went to the Hot Topics version of the proposal and left a comment. I used part of one of your posts - didn't think you would mind. Had a hell of a time getting it on there! After I changed some wording, saying the same thing, and a couple cache clearings later it went up. Just wanted to see if it would.

So he has a legal right to delete posts?

Who the hell is Pete? You want to send me stuff to post that you guys wrote and see if they'll censor it? Then we can confront Dean later on with his actions.

Ahh shit I'm getting sucked back into this computer thing again, just when I was getting some stuff done......Oh well. Let me know of anything I can do.

[scout]

Petes 8am post is there. Maybe he's just letting everyone have one comment.

[builder]

Update: Pete Buttaro has also now been censored.

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Hmmmmm, I sense some heavy censorship issues, on what claims to be a public forum. I guess the only way to talk about those issues in on another board.

 

Didn't GF pick up a few new members last time this kind of shit was going down on the columbus board?

[scout]

LOL

Now Builder, Phreak wouldn't do a thing like that. (Just 3)

It's fun.

[phreakwars]

He even went so far as to EDIT my post that stated that he was censoring not only myself, but others as well. I don't know it you guys caught that or not when I asked him why Pete Buttaro had his post removed.. well, anyways.. he deleted THAT too, as well as the link I posted to where it had been deleted from.

 

 

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[phreakwars]

I have removed myself from the board

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[builder]

Damn, I just joined up. Maybe I'll just stir some shit. Anyone in particular I should focus on phreak?

[phreakwars]

Just spam the fuck out of it, your in AUSTRALIA.. wtf is he gonna do... BAN YOU ??

 

Evidently, I am too much of a pain in his ass, so I simply edited all my posts so as not to offend.

 

He has his little hot topics column now that he can control opinions better. He has no need for a message board.

 

Hell, if I wanted to, I could summon the wrath of the unholy army of the suckage on him... But I ain't that mean.

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[builder]

Hmmmm, that place will be pretty fucking quiet without you.

 

I'm guessing the "admin" has a few ID's that he uses?

 

I'd spam it, but I don't see the point. I'll monitor it for a while, and see if something comes of it.

[scout]

So you did pick up your posts and go home......

I tried to post on the front page tonight - it was accepted but didn't show up.

Your right Builder - it's real boring without Phreak there. It will just die..again. Then Phreak will get antsy about something else and it'll take off..again. So no there's not much there to spam.

By all means have a play though, may put a spark in our dreary little lives.

[phreakwars]

Now it's time to Layeth the Smacketh down on Mr. Dean, I E-mailed him THIS link: http://Off Topic Forum.com/showpost.php?p=948312&postcount=15

 

I haven't battled anybody in a long time, and I'm getting edgy, I need my fix.

 

But come on now, you gotta admit, that it's bullshit him doing this to people.

 

I can see it happening on a silly message board, but your dealing with an actual community here.

 

I need back up, if you guys are with me. I won't try and sway your own personal opinion.

 

 

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[ImWithStupid]

Phreak,

 

Did you delete that entire thread about the viaduct with Joe M's letter in it, or was it Mr. Dean?

[phreakwars]

I deleted it.

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