A talk about Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

Actually Fred Phelps helps out everybody in the long run. It reminds you that there are all kinds out there and you can

[snafu]

I think the majority of people see him as a lunatic and then become skeptical of other hate preaching mongrels. He's obviously going for the shock value of it and I think it's back firing on him.

[somersetcace1]

I don't think Fred Phelps is helping Christianity by making false statements like "God hates Fags"...

 

It's my understanding that most christians see christianity as "the truth." That being said, since when does the truth need help? For that matter, what can possibly hurt it?

 

Guys like phelps attract the lowest denominator of society. He doesn't get loving people to hate, but rather helps hateful people justify their hatred. So, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

 

I'm not a christian, but it's not because guys like phelps interpret the bible in a way to make his views appear divine. I doubt many christians look at the views of phelps, and say, "Well, that's not right, I'm no longer going to be a christian now!" I also doubt that many non believers reject christianty because of guys like phelps either. They may use phelps to rag on christians, but anyone who says "I'm not a christian because Fred Phelps says that God hates fags," has some serious issues anyway. ;-)

[Kryptonite Man]

It's my understanding that most christians see christianity as "the truth." That being said, since when does the truth need help? For that matter, what can possibly hurt it?

 

Guys like phelps attract the lowest denominator of society. He doesn't get loving people to hate, but rather helps hateful people justify their hatred. So, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

 

I'm not a christian, but it's not because guys like phelps interpret the bible in a way to make his views appear divine. I doubt many christians look at the views of phelps, and say, "Well, that's not right, I'm no longer going to be a christian now!" I also doubt that many non believers reject christianty because of guys like phelps either. They may use phelps to rag on christians, but anyone who says "I'm not a christian because Fred Phelps says that God hates fags," has some serious issues anyway. ;-)

Logical. Flawlessly logical. Phelps and his kind are of the apostate church, which is to say he and his "church", read, cult, are of Satan, although, Phelps would deny it. That's just my two cents on that peta'Q.

[Jhony5]

Holy shit!

 

I've been laughing my ass off at this fucktarded thread.

 

WOW!

 

75% of this "Pastors" congregation are comprised of family members, BTW.

 

We see here the same molesting of base religion as we have seen wit Islam. ANY Christian person I've heard speak towards the irreverent pastor Phelps, has done well to display distance.

 

I can't believe so many people are outraged at this man. Outrage is what they want. When I first saw this jackass and his sheep, I thought I was outraged, but then realized I was entertained. The world needs Fred Phelps. Why the hell does the media even give this butt lick a minute of air?

 

Guys like Phelps attract the lowest denominator of society. He doesn't get loving people to hate, but rather helps hateful people justify their hatred. So, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

 

Not really. As I said, most of the congregation is family. This ignorance and hate has been Mr Phelps legacy to his kin.

 

If you take the bible literally, Pastor Phelps gives a more genuine recital of gods awful hand then any sweet little church in your neighborhood. The bible is filled from front to back with bloody horrible events caused by the hand of god. The bible is a tome of record recalling the mass-murder of thousands of innocent children as a means of god himself, teaching a Pharaoh a lesson for the oppression of Jews.

 

Whether you like it or not, God is painted as a terrifying and vengeful Deity in the bible. Whether you like it or not, god said himself that any man whom lies with another man, shall be put to death. Dear Christians. Your god wants all fags dead. Pastor Phelps is rogue in his statements, and an asshole. But he is more of a true Christian then any of you.

[Lethalfind]

Dear Friends

kind regards

I'd like to reply to adress the following people.

Mohammed rots in Hell.........

I'd like to think that homosexuals could be saved but Phelps says otherwise, why don't you read his website to learn why he thinks in this way.

Phelps states on his FAQ page that WBC members picket the funerals to warn the attendee's that if they don't repent that they'll join the dead person in hell.

Phelps says that he pickets because he wants to save Souls who will repent and that he wants to make those who are hard hearted even more hard hearted than they were previously.

Phelps stated on the Alan Coombes radio show that the vast majority are going to hell and there is nothing they can do about it but he wants to wish them a nice day.

I agree with your question and I have responded with Phelps own logic, you should read his FAQ site to understand his logic.

The fact that you smoke Cannabis is proof enough that you are a wrong doer.

tiredofwhiners.........

I have stated that I feel that homosexuality is a sin but this is a thread about Fred Phelps.

Vortex.........

I think that homosexuals actually should be seduced by one of their many female admirers, that may just change them.

Hetrosexuality is normal and homosexuality is abnormal.

You can change yourself to become a hetrosexual if you really wanted to but you won't because you are use to living that way much like a person hooked on drugs.

Whether or not you change is not my business, however the homosexual/feminist agenda has doomed America and hence the most noble thing that homosexuals can do is to keep their sexuality away from society.

yours thankfully

John

 

I have NEVER in my life read more bullshit in one place then this one, and funny it all seems to be coming from you...

 

My HOPE for you is that you will end up in prison someday and get ass raped by everyone who wants to take a turn. That would be a fitting punishment considering your views on the gay community.

 

I just thank god this is the only place I run into someone like you.

[Jhony5]

I have NEVER in my life read more bullshit in one place then this one, and funny it all seems to be coming from you...

 

My HOPE for you is that you will end up in prison someday and get ass raped by everyone who wants to take a turn. That would be a fitting punishment considering your views on the gay community.

 

I just thank god this is the only place I run into someone like you.

 

Hes a true Christian.

 

It's not his fault that our society preferes the candy coated sweet parts of the bible. GOD HATES FAGS!! Its in the bible.

You can't pick and choose what parts of the bible to take literally. Either take the whole thing, every verse, literally. Or dismiss the whole thing as gar-baldy-gook.

 

What has became of the bible is similar to what has become of the United States constitution. As time goes on and society becomes more liberal, the majority pushes for change in the text. Lets change this, reword that. Hey that parts alright, but not that.

 

Take what I say with a certain understanding. It is not meant to defend Pastor Phelps. Hes disgusting and needs a good asswhoopin'. His recital of the bible is true to form, however.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

Hes a true Christian.

No, he is not.

 

It's not his fault that our society preferes the candy coated sweet parts of the bible. GOD HATES FAGS!! Its in the bible.

NO it is not.

 

You can't pick and choose what parts of the bible to take literally. Either take the whole thing, every verse, literally. Or dismiss the whole thing as gar-baldy-gook.

1) I can do what ever I want.

2) I can believe whatever I want.

 

What has became of the bible is similar to what has become of the United States constitution. As time goes on and society becomes more liberal, the majority pushes for change in the text. Lets change this, reword that. Hey that parts alright, but not that.

Not exactly true... The interpretations are varied, though.

 

Take what I say with a certain understanding. It is not meant to defend Pastor Phelps. Hes disgusting and needs a good asswhoopin'. His recital of the bible is true to form, however.

Pastor Phelps has a very unique interpretation of the bible. I know of no other christian that shares the belief God hates anyone. If someone was to argue that homosexuality is "SIN" in God's view, they very well may have a good argument, but that "God hates them personally?" ... No, this is a very rare and extreame view, I can assure you.

[Jhony5]

1) I can do what ever I want.

2) I can believe whatever I want.

 

Then I can worship Satan and fuck my brother with the holy cross and call myself a Christian?

 

NO it is not.

 

Direct quote from the holy book of love--"Any man whom lies with another man shall be put to death".

 

Not exactly true... The interpretations are varied, though.

 

Varied to an extent that one could interpret these verses in any way which one sees fit?

 

Pastor Phelps has a very unique interpretation of the bible.

 

I concede that you are correct here. He has kept the vengeful hatred of the lord alive, which most Christians have worked long and hard to put behind them.

 

If someone was to argue that homosexuality is "SIN" in God's view, they very well may have a good argument, but that "God hates them personally?" ... No, this is a very rare and extreme view

 

My understanding of the bibles philosophy toward the lords relationship with mankind. He holds no one in a personal context. We are all disgusting wretch's born into original sin. God was so angry at a very small segment of the human population, that he murdered every man woman and child on the face of the planet. EVERYONE! Which we know was a friggin' fairy tale, but thats beside the point. All you have to do is read the bible and comprehend the violent and unprejudiced acts of annihilation brought by the lord to understand my parallel between Phelps and the original fear mongering included in the book of lies.

 

I know why your prayers will never be answered.

God hates us all!

..and that includes fags!

 

I agree that Pastor Phelps holds an extreme view in comparison with modern Christian views. He, however, reminds me of the times of old when the fabric of the base faith was spun.

[Lethalfind]

Hes a true Christian.

 

It's not his fault that our society preferes the candy coated sweet parts of the bible. GOD HATES FAGS!! Its in the bible.

You can't pick and choose what parts of the bible to take literally. Either take the whole thing, every verse, literally. Or dismiss the whole thing as gar-baldy-gook.

 

What has became of the bible is similar to what has become of the United States constitution. As time goes on and society becomes more liberal, the majority pushes for change in the text. Lets change this, reword that. Hey that parts alright, but not that.

 

Take what I say with a certain understanding. It is not meant to defend Pastor Phelps. Hes disgusting and needs a good asswhoopin'. His recital of the bible is true to form, however.

 

I agree with you on picking and choosing the parts of the bible you believe in...thats just stupid. However he is not a true Christian in my opinion.

While I am not religious, I do have friends who are kind and caring people, who do not look on others and judge them, their belief in God is reflected in how they treat the people around them...these are true Christians too me.

[somersetcace1]

There's nothing more warm and fuzzy on a Sunday than the phrase, "True christian

[Jhony5]

What is a "true christian" anyway?

Religious liberals promote homosexual ordinations, same-sex marriage, civil union ceremonies in the church, equal protection under hate-crime legislation, protection against discrimination in employment, etc. as fundamental human rights issues.

Religious conservatives feel that the Bible teaches that homosexual behavior is always a serious sin. Allowing sexually active gays and lesbians to be ordained, or to have their committed relationships recognized by the church would involve a drastic and unacceptable lowering of church standards. The church would be condoning sin. They also oppose including sexual orientation in hate-crime and anti-discrimination legislation.

 

 

Politics and lobbying for political influence is the "TRUE CHRISTIAN".

 

Phelps is in-line with Christian traditions. Which vary and swing wildly from side to side.

Phelps is a sort of hybrid X-tian Pastor. I would label his "teachings" as Christian Fascism. Very similar to Islamic Fascism. Phelps teaches that American soldiers (dead or alive) are fags because they align themselves with fags. How? They are voluntary members of an army whom accepts homosexuals. This army aligns itself with a Government that condones homosexuality. By default and using the same philosophy as radical Islam, you are guilty by association.

 

The United States government is guilty because they accept gays. The Army is guilty because they accept gays. The soldiers are guilty because they willingly joined an army that accepts gays.

 

This is the same reasoning we see with terrorism when they kill innocent people whom were only guilty of being outside of, or around and installation, building, or person whom counters their groups agenda.

 

Guilty by association.

 

In effect, everyone who has responded to this thread is correct in their opinion of Christian interpretations. With the advent of democracy, religious power structures began to crumble and with this they realized that continuing to push a singular interpretation of the bible was no longer feasible or within their best interest. Thats when the idea of open-interpretations ensued along with the concept of purgatory. The happy medium between heaven and hell. Think of it as religious marketing tactics.

 

From all this Christianity began its transformation from a hard line guide to life and life after death, to an open book with personal interpretation as a substitute for divine command.

 

If you comprehend all of the above, I think you can understand my comparison between Phelps and the original hard line views of Christianity. Their was no "bend" to the LAWS of the Christian church in the inaugural centuries before it liberalized itself from the inside due to the changing social environment of the democratic world.

[somersetcace1]

"Religious liberals : Religious conservatives"

 

That's very telling jhony....You forgot all the grey area inbetween, but like American politics, it's all been over catagorized into two sides. Black/white...democrat/republican...liberal/conservative. Oh, if only life were actually so simple.

 

You say that phelps is in-line with christian tradition, which vary wildly. hmmm Okay, so are you saying that phelps varies wildly? My understanding is that besides becoming a bit more radical, (if that were even possible) that phelps has held firm to his positions for years. So which is it? Does he vary wildly over time, like "christian tradition," or is he just one more radical in a long line of radicals that have used whatever they can find to make their views seem tenable?

 

It's not that phelps IS or ISN'T a "true

[Jhony5]

"Religious liberals : Religious conservatives"

 

That's very telling jhony....You forgot all the grey area inbetween

 

You completely missed my point. There isn't supposed to be variances in Christianity. There isn't supposed to be "a grey area". Thats what the fuck is wrong with religion. In its inception, Christianity dictated that you were to be executed for heresy if you tried that shit. X-tians have molested their own faith in order to have in fit their own lifestyle. i.e. homosexual priests. Your religion is laughable at best.

 

You say that phelps is in-line with christian tradition, which vary wildly. hmmm Okay, so are you saying that phelps varies wildly?

 

Maybe I worded that incorrectly. Admittedly.

 

Ill try to reword it to reflect what I meant to be conveyed.

 

Phelps is in-line with the fiery and angry rhetoric that the Christian faith was founded on. HOWEVER, after the church began to lose its power as a governing body, wild variations in the laws of the church began to take place. Swinging from side to side. Phelps represents the same narrow view that I saw in early Xtian faith practices.

 

Even if the words themselves DON'T change, the interpretations do, and therein lies the problem.

 

The interpretations have changed to fit personal agenda. Not at all what your divine lord intended, is it? If the bible can be interpreted in so many ways, then is it not safe to say that the bible was poorly written? Poorly written by men whom supposedly were transcribing the word of an infallible being.The instruction manual for my Chevy Tahoe is easy to read. Singular interpretation. If it were written as the bible was, I wouldn't be able to figure out how to change the dammed fuses.

 

The fact is that many CHOOSE to interpret the bible differently because the obvious interpretations are ridiculous and factually incorrect with what science has shown us to be true.

 

The great flood is the best example of this. Occurring, according to the bible, about 4000 years ago. Wiping out all mankind in lieu of a fresh start.

 

However we know this not to be true at all. Many societies existed during this time. The Egyptians were building the pyramids during this apocalyptic event. They didn't drown to death.

 

Some Christians choose to accept this, despite the obvious. Many others have tried to offer an alternative interpretation of the flood. Which to me, flies in the face of God.

It either is, or is not. No grey area. No happy medium.

[somersetcace1]

You completely missed my point. There isn't supposed to be variances in Christianity. There isn't supposed to be "a grey area". Thats what the fuck is wrong with religion. In its inception, Christianity dictated that you were to be executed for heresy if you tried that shit. X-tians have molested their own faith in order to have in fit their own lifestyle. i.e. homosexual priests. Your religion is laughable at best.

 

First of all, don't call it MY religion. It's not. I'm no more christian than you are. Second of all, what we're talking about here is phelps, and my issue is only that you have decided that phelp's interpretation of christianity is correct. My question to you remains the same. What IS true christianty? Your version of it? Phelp's? Pat Robertson? Paul? Luke's? Who?

 

The truth is that early christianty spent most of it's time escaping persecution. Early christians didn't execute anyone, because they were too busy being executed themselves. That's not to say they wouldn't have, but pointing to post Constantine christianity and calling it "early" christianty is as bad as the christians who claim that the gospels were written right after Jesus Died.

 

I still contend that no one can objectivly define christianty and list it's tenents because the whole damned religion is too vaugue and full of inconsistancies. 2 verses out of thousands of verses, spanning 66 books, is not the most convincing argument for christianity hating homosexuals and wanting them all executed. It's like me taking a sentance out of a book and pretending the whole book is based on that one sentance.

 

I'm not defending christianty here. On the contrary I'm saying there is no "true christianty." It's nothing more than millions of subjective versions of an ideology no one can even agree on.

[Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell]

...There isn't supposed to be variances in Christianity. There isn't supposed to be "a grey area".

Not only is that wrong, it makes no sense. Where do you get the notion what is supposed to be in any religion? Why are there not supposed to be any variances? There are many variances, and these variances were addressed by the apostle John in the last book of the bible, "The Revelation of John" (or the "Apocolypse of John") John writes to the seven churches, read it, it is very interesting! It says a lot of stuff and it definately adresses the myriad diversity and variations of the Christian believers in 90AD.

 

...Thats what the fuck is wrong with religion. In its inception, Christianity dictated that you were to be executed for heresy if you tried that shit. X-tians have molested their own faith in order to have in fit their own lifestyle. i.e. homosexual priests. Your religion is laughable at best.

Jhony5, this is again very WRONG. Christianity, from it's inception was founded on love, forgiveness and understanding. The entire theme of Christianity is summed up in that God's mercy is demonstrated by calvary. The same levitical laws that AIG, You and other's that don't understand stated that prostitues must be stoned to death, yet when Jesus was confronted by the question of putting one to death he said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone", when evryone dropped their rocks (yes, they have a long history of throwing rocks over there) and left the area, Jesus told her that sins were forgiven... That is what Christianity is all about. It most certainly is not about "Hating fags" or hating anyone else!

 

...Phelps is in-line with the fiery and angry rhetoric that the Christian faith was founded on. HOWEVER, after the church began to lose its power as a governing body, wild variations in the laws of the church began to take place. Swinging from side to side. Phelps represents the same narrow view that I saw in early Xtian faith practices.

1) The Christian faith was NOT founded of fiery and angry rhetoric! You really need to do more research on this, Jhony. Supposition, propoganda, lies, and descention are not reliable as to historical accuracy.

2) Wild variations have forever been part of the Christian faith.

3) You actually saw early Christians? What the fuck, Jhony... are you a time traveller?

 

...The interpretations have changed to fit personal agenda. Not at all what your divine lord intended, is it?

Just like everything else, it can be interpretted to meet very selfish and un-christian practices.

 

...If the bible can be interpreted in so many ways, then is it not safe to say that the bible was poorly written?

I would say it makes it richly written! But that is just my opinion.

 

The fact is that many CHOOSE to interpret the bible differently because the obvious interpretations are ridiculous and factually incorrect with what science has shown us to be true.

 

The great flood is the best example of this. Occurring, according to the bible, about 4000 years ago. Wiping out all mankind in lieu of a fresh start.

 

However we know this not to be true at all. Many societies existed during this time. The Egyptians were building the pyramids during this apocalyptic event. They didn't drown to death.

 

Some Christians choose to accept this, despite the obvious. Many others have tried to offer an alternative interpretation of the flood. Which to me, flies in the face of God.

It either is, or is not. No grey area. No happy medium.

There is no date recorded in the bible for the great flood. You say it is recorded as 4000 years ago, Where did you find or calculate that date? Interstingly enough, many cultures and religions share a similar "flood story", maybe coincidence, maybe not.

[somersetcace1]

Mohammed rots....same thing to you....Sure, there are all sorts of things in the NT about forgiveness and mercy, just as there are plenty of things about fire and brimstone. Look at romans...Just in that one book alone there are inconsistencies that make me wonder what kind of wine Paul was drinking.

 

In romans 9 paul says that God hated Esau.."For jacob I loved but Esau I hated." He goes on to say that God saves who chooses to save, and damns who he chooses to damn, and furthermore, what right do we have to argue with it? Then, in the very next chapter he says that it's up to you..."For it is with YOUR heart that you believe and are justified, and by YOUR mouth that you confess and are saved." Huh? Make up your mind paul!

 

This is just one example of a compilation of texts that simply do not give a clear ideology. It is these types of vaugue concepts smashed together and broken up by verses that you are attempting to discern. What you get is your belief, whatever that is, based on all sorts of factors, which you then force the bible to adhere to.

 

"No one believes the bible means what it says. They are convinced it says what they mean." Ambrose Bierce shrug

[hugo]

At least Phelps followers ain't walking around with explosives strapped to them.

[snafu]

I haven

[snafu]

http://www.startribune.com/462/story/266514.html

 

I’m sure I would go to jail if I ever came front to front with these people. I’m extremely pissed at shit heads like them. I would say God hates haters.

 

Thank God for The Patriot Guard!

[somersetcace1]

I haven

[Jhony5]

There is no date recorded in the bible for the great flood. You say it is recorded as 4000 years ago, Where did you find or calculate that date?

 

In the past I've researched this, trying to find an answer. The best Gage for it using biblical information and historical markers.

 

 

The synopsis of the research..........

The placing of a catastrophic global flood in the year 2304 BC means that all civilizations discovered by archeology must fit into the last 4,285 years.

 

This is the formula commonly accepted by the secular community.

 

Not only is that wrong, it makes no sense. Where do you get the notion what is supposed to be in any religion?

 

It either is or is not. My issue with varying interpretations in the bible is the word of god is not subject to change. But yet and still the word of god changes, depending on who you ask.

When I say "supposed to be" it is cut and dry. The bible quotes directly to you what is supposed to be. Its not me that first made this assertion, its god himself. This is my issue with ANY religion. At a starting point it had a defined message. What it is "supposed to be". Given enough time, what was supposed to be the way, is now lost.

 

Why are there not supposed to be any variances?

The word of god is not subject to change. But yet thats all Christianity has done. Constantly changing what was said in the bible.

Jhony5, this is again very WRONG. Christianity, from it's inception was founded on love, forgiveness and understanding.

 

True. Then the murder began. Four hundred years of war in the name of the loving Christ.

 

You actually saw early Christians? What the fuck, Jhony... are you a time traveller?

 

In this context, saw = understood. But that was funny. Now I look all silly.

 

The Christian faith was NOT founded of fiery and angry rhetoric! You really need to do more research on this, Jhony. Supposition, propoganda, lies, and descention are not reliable as to historical accuracy.

And the bible is? LOL. OK.

 

According to the bible, it was said that Noah brought two of each animal/insect/mammal onto the Ark. Thats what.....about 4 BILLION species. How big was that boat? And how did he feed them? Historical accuracy, I think not.

 

In summation. The love and peaceful understanding said to be taught by Jesus, was transformed into governmental control. Faith went hand in hand with fear and control, from the beginning of Christianity.

 

Hearing you quote Jesus, to me, is hearsay. No way that anyone could accurately transcribe the spoken words of a man that existed thousands of years ago. It is my belief that Jesus never existed. Hes a mythical figure used to convey what Christianity was "supposed to be" about.

 

It would be difficult to credit the Bible generally (and the gospels in particular) as proof of anything. It is, at best, anecdotal evidence, stories whose authorship cannot be authenticated and which cannot be corroborated except by other hearsay evidence; and although there are references in the Scriptures of persons, places and events whose existence can be corroborated by other historical records, it is hard to credit the story of Jesus in the gospels as anything more than fable. The four gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) cannot be authenticated; and even if they could, they cannot be proved contemporaneous accounts of a percipient witness to the events described or even recorded recollection. They were most likely popular stories handed down by verbal tradition and miscellaneous writings of the early Christian sects, which were later collected and revised under the auspices of the Church (not all of the gospels were approved), and eventually translated into Latin by St. Jerome in the 4th Century A.D.

 

Not all the gospels were approved. Think about that. Editing the divine word of god? This is why Christianity fast became a tool of power.

[Komrade Vostok Hazard]

At least Phelps followers ain't walking around with explosives strapped to them.

 

 

Unfortunately...

[Vortex]

Jesus Christ....here we go again...

 

First of all some of the core teachings that "Jesus" taught were

 

- Initial Message : "This is the time of fulfillment. The kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel." (Mark 1:15)

 

- The Golden Rule: "Do to others whatever you would have them do to you." (Matt 7:12; par. Luke 6:31)

 

- The Greatest Commandment: "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength... You shall love your neighbor as yourself." (Mark 12:30-31; par. Matt 22:37-39, Luke 10:27; citing Deut 6:4-5 & Lev 19:18)

 

- Love of Enemies: "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you." (Luke 6:27-28; par. Matt 5:43-48)

 

- Repentance & Forgiveness: "If your brother sins, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. And if he wrongs you seven times in one day and returns to you seven times saying, 'I am sorry,' you should forgive him." (Luke 17:3-4; cf. Matt 18:15-22)

 

- Judging Others: "Stop judging, that you may not be judged. For as you judge, so will you be judged, and the measure with which you measure will be measured out to you." (Matt 7:1-2; par. Luke 6:37)

 

- Faith & Prayer: "Have faith in God... Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours." (Mark 11:22+24; cf. Matt 17:20; 21:21; John 14:1)

 

 

...SOOOOOOOOO exactly how is spewing hatred (like Phelps) making him a true christian?

 

Sheesh people...Love thy neighbor or shut the fuck up!

[somersetcace1]

Jesus Christ....here we go again...ETC

 

...SOOOOOOOOO exactly how is spewing hatred (like Phelps) making him a true christian?

 

Sheesh people...Love thy neighbor or shut the fuck up!

 

There is no such thing as a "true