snafu Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Okay this is the kind of that pisses me off. You can get a million dollars for a hot cup of coffee spilt in your lap but you're innocent of a crime and you spend over 20 years in prison, you get nothing? He should be a rich man for the rest of his life. Money is tight for Williams, and, according to the Innocence Project, only 45 percent of those exonerated by DNA evidence have been financially compensated. He expects some compensation from Georgia, although the state has no law guiding such cases. http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/25/innocence.project/index.html Now I know that Mc Donalds is a privately owned company but he still should be able to sue the state and collect. And it should be an additional crime for the perp to allow someone else doing their time. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
ToriAllen Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 And it should be an additional crime for the perp to allow someone else doing their time. That would be a good issue to look up. Can a person convicted of a crime sue the person who actually committed the crime. That would be an interesting case. I'll have to think about that. What cause of action could he use? Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Old Salt Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 That would be a good issue to look up. Can a person convicted of a crime sue the person who actually committed the crime. That would be an interesting case. I'll have to think about that. What cause of action could he use? Could he use false imprisonment? Quote
wez Posted October 25, 2007 Posted October 25, 2007 That would be a good issue to look up. Can a person convicted of a crime sue the person who actually committed the crime. That would be an interesting case. I'll have to think about that. What cause of action could he use? Even so, the chances they'd have anything to sue for is slim most likely.. And collecting it is another story.. O.J.'s a rich man owing a lot of dough and has yet to pay a dime.. Cept the few things they took.. Sad. I've thought about that.. what a nightmare.. Think of the poor people that never made it out, or were put to death, all the while totally innocent. Quote
snafu Posted October 26, 2007 Author Posted October 26, 2007 Even so, the chances they'd have anything to sue for is slim most likely.. And collecting it is another story.. O.J.'s a rich man owing a lot of dough and has yet to pay a dime.. Cept the few things they took.. Sad. I've thought about that.. what a nightmare.. Think of the poor people that never made it out, or were put to death, all the while totally innocent. Did you see the Browns tried to get his Rolex watch? It turned out to be a fake. What a bummer. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
snafu Posted October 26, 2007 Author Posted October 26, 2007 They say there's no law on this issue so he should be able to sue the state I would think or hope. Then he should be able to win a civil suit with the felon. You probably wouldn't get anything but who knows. And it would set precedence for future cases. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
wez Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 Did you see the Browns tried to get his Rolex watch? It turned out to be a fake. What a bummer. I did see that Snaf.. the court even ordered they return it to him.. I can't imagine how bad he ed up his two kids.. Unbelievable.. How does he look them in the eye? Quote
ToriAllen Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 Could he use false imprisonment? Nope. They say there's no law on this issue so he should be able to sue the state I would think or hope. Then he should be able to win a civil suit with the felon. You probably wouldn't get anything but who knows. And it would set precedence for future cases. The problem is DNA is still a relatively new technology and so this issue is not going to have any precedent. It will be interestig to see how the law developes with respect to this issue over the next ten years. Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
timesjoke Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 Just to let you know, the award was appealed by McDonalds and they won. I believe they paid about 100 grand in the end. It does suck that an innocent man was in prison but most suits depend on negligence to get much of an award. There was no DNA science for the State to use back when the case was first done so they can only go on the information they do have. There is no negligence and no reason or evidence for malice. He should get something but I don't see anyone being truly guilty of wrong doing in most of these cases. Quote
wez Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 Just to let you know, the award was appealed by McDonalds and they won. I believe they paid about 100 grand in the end. It does suck that an innocent man was in prison but most suits depend on negligence to get much of an award. There was no DNA science for the State to use back when the case was first done so they can only go on the information they do have. There is no negligence and no reason or evidence for malice. He should get something but I don't see anyone being truly guilty of wrong doing in most of these cases. Not to mention it's not really the truly guilty parties problem that an innocent man is thrown in jail for a crime they committed.. unless they framed them of course. Quote
snafu Posted October 26, 2007 Author Posted October 26, 2007 Just to let you know, the award was appealed by McDonalds and they won. I believe they paid about 100 grand in the end. It does suck that an innocent man was in prison but most suits depend on negligence to get much of an award. There was no DNA science for the State to use back when the case was first done so they can only go on the information they do have. There is no negligence and no reason or evidence for malice. He should get something but I don't see anyone being truly guilty of wrong doing in most of these cases. Well yes there is. The system is wrong. Witnesses who see several potential suspects simultaneously are more likely to choose a person who looks most like the perpetrator -- but who may not actually be the perpetrator, according to the Innocence Project. The group also cites research that says misidentification is reduced if the person overseeing the lineup is "blind" to which person in the lineup is the suspect. So the eye wittiness testimony is flawed. This is not new. We have known this for decades but they continue to use it because it's pretty much all they had to go on until forensic science became more prevalent and came into play. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
ToriAllen Posted October 27, 2007 Posted October 27, 2007 Not to mention it's not really the truly guilty parties problem that an innocent man is thrown in jail for a crime they committed.. unless they framed them of course. Actually it is. The guilty party is responible for two reasons: 1. Had they not committed the crime in the first place then no one would have been put in jail. 2. Had they turned themselves in when the innocent person was charged with the crime then the innocent man would not have been convicted. I do not think the police/DA's can or should be held liable. Their job is to locate the person most likely to be guilty and put it to the jury to determind the person's innocence. You can not hold them liable for doing their job. Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Guest skategreen Posted November 7, 2007 Posted November 7, 2007 for me..... the knee-jerk reaction is "he's entitled to compensation" but from whom? "the state"? if so..it then comes out of taxes. Which means it comes out of my pocket and your pocket. It seems like someone should be throwin the guy lollipops and fritos but ..GREAT question - WHO pays? Quote
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