Education Reform

[phreakwars]

So how do you reform the education problem in America?

 

I'm finally on vacation for a couple days, so I figured I would start my rant sessions with this topic.

 

Let's begin with teachers salary's and raises.

 

I believe, like Senator Dodd, that teachers should be given a minimum wage base salary of $40,000.

 

I believe merit raises should be given to teachers who put more effort into their teaching skills and training. I believe teachers should be required to educate themselves continuously, or work more hours educating our youth for merit raise... Personal sessions before and after school regular hours should be given a merit raise.

 

In a nut shell, education reform starts with reforming the educators.

 

Next, I believe that children should attend 16 years of school total. PRE-SCHOOL should be mandatory, Kindergarten should be all day, and the Government should pay for the first 2 years of college tuition.

 

No Child Left Behind is a damn joke.

 

Education reform calls for more educated educators who make a decent base wage.

 

I believe the problem with today's current education system, are there simply are not enough educated educators to help educate the educable.

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[wez]

Holy crap.. what a sad state of affairs that is the public education system.. where to start? Prolly removing the federal government and their stinking mandates from the picture completely along with finding a sensible way to fund it instead of ever increasing property taxes.

 

 

From wikapedia...

 

In the United States, all powers which are not assigned to the federal government by the U.S. Constitution are reserved to the people or individual states. Since the federal Constitution does not mention education, and the U.S. Supreme Court has held conclusively there is no federal Constitutional right to an education, public education has always been under the general control of the individual states. The steadily expanding role of the federal government in public education since the late nineteenth century has recently become a subject of heated debate, as many states (and more than a few Senators and members of Congress) perceive the U.S. Government to be overstepping its constitutional bounds.

[snafu]

So what's wrong with federal mandates? These mandates help create stagnant guidelines on hiring qualified teachers. This is exactly what we need.

 

http://www.stateline.org/live/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=136&languageId=1&contentId=15144

[wez]

So what's wrong with federal mandates? These mandates help create stagnant guidelines on hiring qualified teachers. This is exactly what we need.

 

http://www.stateline.org/live/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=136&languageId=1&contentId=15144

 

 

What's wrong is the federal government is a black hole for tax dollars and corrupt as hell and need to become a lean, mean, fighting machine of honest, fair, "unpowerful" servents of the people of this country. I don't like that our country is for sale to the highest bidder.. Kinda scarey actually.

 

Most taxes should go to the state where we can keep our eye on it a little better and actually use it for it's intended purpose..

 

Plus, who says what education is best for every kid in America? Economics vary by region and what is an education but to be a productive member of society. People closer to the issue are fully capable of deciding whats best for their children, not some welfare case in Washington...

 

Plus, I don't want individuals in the federal government to do all my thinking for me, I like to live too...

[timesjoke]

Yes, this is a complex issue, but one of the most important issues we have in modern society.

 

 

Teachers, I have worked as a school volunteer for over 15 years and there is one thing about Teachers few know, they are the only employees who spend their own money to purchase needed materials for the day to day function of their job. They go to Wal-Mart and buy things because if they don't, they cannot do their job. For those of you that work, are you willing to take your paycheck and spend part of it to help your employer?

 

Another little known fact about teachers is how much time they spend doing their jobs at home. Most of us work a schedule but teachers work until the work is done, sometimes getting their entire family around the kitchen table grading tests all night. How many of us will have our spouses and children working for free to help our employer?

 

 

Now, that said, we need to hold teachers accountable for teaching, there are lots of bad teachers out there and the only real way of finding them is to test and see if kids are learning.

 

 

We need to pay teachers more in my opinion but have strict policies on performance, with testing for kids in the classes and even testing the teachers to ensure they know what they are teaching.

 

 

 

Students, kids these days are difficult to teach, they have low motivation and walk around with an air of entitlements. Strict rules need to be made for dealing with bad attitudes and it needs to be strictly followed. Kids are kids, and need discipline to be successful.

 

 

 

Education, We keep lowering standards, an "A" is not 90 to 100 when it used to be 95 to 100. We keep dumming down education to allow the greatest amount of students to pass while we keep falling behind the rest of the world in education. We stay fairly even until middle school, then many Countries pass us by and this is sad. I say increase standards and offer extra assistance to those that cannot keep up or have trade schools that offer an alternative path to education geared for those kids more likely to be doing things like construction or other hands on jobs.

 

Everyone is not the same, why have a one size fits all school system?

 

 

 

 

taxes for education, While I don't want new taxes (who does) we cannot keep herding kids into classrooms, spending the least amount possible to educate them, and then expect outstanding results, that is just impossible. The problem with any government, Federal, State, or local, is that htey have too many special interests all dipping their hands into the money and by the time the most important things get their turn at the till, there is little remaining for them to use.

 

In my opinion, there are too many things getting money from the government that are usepess, like millions spent on a study of bugs or moss, while thise studies can be helpful to raw knowledge, it helps very few and costs massive amounts of money when we cannot afford it.

 

 

I attend every town meeting, county commisioners meeting, and school board meetings in my area. I have something to say at most meetings (I know that will shock all of you, lol) but I always start with one saying that most people tend to repeat with me at the start of every comment I make,

"Our governments should run like our homes, with restraint on spending on things we cannot afford, and the wisdom to understand we cannot do everything that sounds good."

 

 

In my opinion, we need to make our future secure first, balance our budgets, and educate out children. Secure our borders and keep a strong military, Feed the "truly" needy and maintain basic services like fire and rescue, as well as roads, lights etc.....

 

 

Everything else should come second and only get money if we have money still remaining, if not, we should accept that as a reality just like we would if we were considering buying a new car we could not afford and wait till another time, or maybe even never, we only have so much money, there needs to be limits.

[wez]

Everything else should come second and only get money if we have money still remaining, if not, we should accept that as a reality just like we would if we were considering buying a new car we could not afford and wait till another time, or maybe even never, we only have so much money, there needs to be limits.

 

 

If you look close, the government acts just like a huge portion of families in the way they handle finances.. Borrow on credit to appear rich, and don't forget, thus "powerful", in order to satisfy some insane perception of how someone else may or may not percieve you as if what other people think is more important than what actually is. How ironic...

 

 

What came first, the chicken or the egg? Hahahahaha

 

 

Don't "they" know how stupid that is? It can barely be put in words that make sense it's so stupid... Sounds like a tongue twister.. Hahahaha

[timesjoke]

If you look close, the government acts just like a huge portion of families in the way they handle finances.. Borrow on credit to appear rich, and don't forget, thus "powerful", in order to satisfy some insane perception of how someone else may or may not percieve you as if what other people think is more important than what actually is. How ironic...

 

 

I should have said how families are supposed to do, but still they must pay their loans each month or lose what they are buying while the government just forces higher taxes and never takes the time to be responsible.

 

Do we force our employer to pay us more if we over spend?

 

What came first, the chicken or the egg? Hahahahaha

 

The chicken, God created all life, then that life went forth and miltiplied, the egg is how chickens mulitply.

[wez]

I should have said how families are supposed to do, but still they must pay their loans each month or lose what they are buying while the government just forces higher taxes and never takes the time to be responsible.

 

Do we force our employer to pay us more if we over spend?

 

 

It'll destroy itself.. can't squeeze blood from a stone, like Mother Russia, it'll implode upon itself before "they" let go...

 

" If anyone digs a pit, they themselves will fall into it; if anyone rolls a stone, it will roll back on them." ~ Proverb

 

 

Let me know if I used that out of context.

 

 

 

The chicken, God created all life, then that life went forth and miltiplied, the egg is how chickens mulitply.

 

 

 

Perhaps the chicken always was?

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

We have problems in the UK too. I met a man once who told me that he could not read or write. He had been through school. I was left wondering how on earth this could have happened. Surely a teacher should have noticed and got something done about it.