Maddy McCann

[timesjoke]

Which leads me to scoff at this notion and believe it is indeed a manufactured ploy to redirect public opinion. As if planting a seed of doubt within a potential jury pool. This sounds more like trial preparation than it does a legitimate investigation.

 

Now I am torn.

 

Is it possible that your starting to come over to our side Jhony?

 

At least consider that the parents are playing games as a possibility?

 

 

Remember, if there was any "real" solid evidence, they would be compelled to disclose it to the authorities, not sit on it and play games in the press with it.

 

 

I have been saying all along that my instincts are pulling me tword the parents having something to do with this, and they could easily fire this group if they felt they were not doing what they want so clearly, they like what is being put in the papers.

 

 

 

Yes, I believe this is manipulation, I believe the parents are involved and hiring this investigating team to spread propaganda is just part of the game being played by the top gun lawyer they hired who's specialty is fighting extradition.

[Jhony5]

I don't believe any of this is indicative of the McCann's guilt. But it sure don't look good to have an inept law team and and investigators that are participating in nonsensical behavior.

[Jhony5]

Is it possible that your starting to come over to our side Jhony?

 

At least consider that the parents are playing games as a possibility?

 

I won't go there, yet. I require proof, not suppositions. This goes both ways.

 

What I will say is that both sides of this matter, the prosecutor and the suspect, are dumping misinformation into the press and seemingly playing games.

 

Either way, I hope this case has some closure. When I look at those pictures of little Maddy (an exceptionally beautiful little girl) it just makes me feel so sad about her fate. Which is inarguably not positive in any way.

 

If the McCann's are innocent, I cannot understand why they would allow their constituency to endanger their child's life.

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

I am, and will remain suspicious of the parents. Just consider what they are asking us all to believe.

 

They say they went out to socialise, while leaving the children alone. In addition, they left the appartment doors unlocked, so that anyone could walk into the rom where the children slept.

 

I do not believe anyone could be so grossly negligent.

 

Here is what I believe.

 

Madelline was killed before the parents went for their night out. But first they needed a plausible account for the childs disappearance. They decided on the kidnap story.

 

To make it look like a break in, would not be difficult, the difficulty would be fooling detectives. Bursting doors and windows not only attracts unwanted attention, it leaves forensic evidence.

 

Yes anyone can avoid leaving fingerprints, but what about microscopic evidence? like traces of fibres at the doors and windows. The police would then seek out clothing, and minutely examine the parents for similar fibres. The parents decided it would be better to not go that way.

 

Instead they invite us to believe their ridiculous story of a kidnapping and unlocked doors, and their fears of fire.

 

Something is very clear to me. Their explanation is a and bull story. More importantly, it is something any clever people could have improved upon with time and planning.

 

The murder of this child was not a planned thing then, it is consistent with one or both parents loosing their temper and doing serious harm to the toddler.

 

The parents then concoted their story.

 

The one thing they did do right was to not allow recovery of the body, for that would be damning. Head injuries are what I would expect to see on the body.

 

If the mother had accidentally poisoned the infantas has been claimed, I think she probably would have admitted it, and settled for the short term of imprisonment mooted. But she cant take that option, a confession would lead to demands for the body.She cant do that, the body would tell the truth, revealing the beating that led to the childs death.

 

I am sure the body will never be recovered. They are smart enough to have seen the need for this. The body was placed in the sea, or perhaps the lake discussed elsewhere. he sea would be a beter bet. As doctors they would know how to degrade a body quickly, it might be that a pit was dug and lined with cement powder and the child emplaced and covered in the material. This stuff is easilly obained from bilders merchants.

 

How they disposed of the body is not that important. The important thing is to get a confession, and for that we must wait for one of them to break.

 

I think Mr. McCann had a bigger part to play in this crime. When I look at him I see a man who owns a quick and nasty temper.

[Guest plato232]

Yeh this is still big time news in England. Courtesy of the Sun (murdoch). To be honest I'm sick of it. I've really had enough of hearing about it.

 

Now call me cold hearted. But this is one little girl (and Yeh I do feel sorry for all concerned). But how many african children have died in the same 9+ months.

 

How many chinese children have been trafficked in the last 9+ months.

 

How many children globally have gone missing or died in the last 9+months.

 

does the media devote anything at all to these thousands upon thousands of poor kids. NO!!!!

 

lets all concentrate on little maddie and forget the hundreds of thousands of other toddlers.

 

the media sucks big time. they have the ability to bring issues to the masses and all they do is this.

 

in that light I really have to question the issues driving the heads of the media.

[Anna Perenna]

I'm sure Maddy's siblings would have noticed something - particularly if the parents killed Maddy and disposed of her body.

 

Has anyone questioned them?

[hugo]

Yeh this is still big time news in England. Courtesy of the Sun (murdoch). To be honest I'm sick of it. I've really had enough of hearing about it.

 

Now call me cold hearted. But this is one little girl (and Yeh I do feel sorry for all concerned). But how many african children have died in the same 9+ months.

 

They were all black--who cares?

 

How many chinese children have been trafficked in the last 9+ months.

 

798,214.5

 

in that light I really have to question the issues driving the heads of the media.

 

The media shows what people wish to watch. We don't watch ugly people or minorities on TV. Don't blame the media.

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

I'm sure Maddy's siblings would have noticed something - particularly if the parents killed Maddy and disposed of her body.

 

Has anyone questioned them?

 

Perhaps they heard and saw nothing. They are little more than babies, and spend most of their times asleep as people do at that age.

 

Or perhaps things are more sinister than I thought. Perhaps the childs death was not the result of a loss of temper/control, but a deliberate act- a silent act. Perhaps the poison theory is correct.

 

I only know that they are involved at some level. A deep one I feel.

[snafu]

Perhaps they heard and saw nothing. They are little more than babies, and spend most of their times asleep as people do at that age.

 

Or perhaps things are more sinister than I thought. Perhaps the childs death was not the result of a loss of temper/control, but a deliberate act- a silent act. Perhaps the poison theory is correct.

 

I only know that they are involved at some level. A deep one I feel.

 

Or perhaps all the children were druged to sleep that night and Maddy was the only one that died.

[timesjoke]

Or perhaps all the children were druged to sleep that night and Maddy was the only one that died.

 

 

This is the thing I believe happened, but I can see a possibility of a more sinister action by the parents.

 

Clearly they are not doing everything possible to help police and their private investigator is feeding disinformation to the press for a reason.

 

 

So sad that most bad things done to children are by those supposed to love and care for them, not strangers, very sad indeed.

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

Or perhaps all the children were druged to sleep that night and Maddy was the only one that died.

 

I like this idea. Maybe hair analysis of the surviving children is appropriate here. I know it sonds weird but apparantly traces of ingested poisons are sometimes found in the hair of victims

 

A positive from the right time frame really would help to point the finger at the parents

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

Madeleine: Cops search pet crematorium - Mirror.co.uk

[atlantic]

I'm sure Maddy's siblings would have noticed something - particularly if the parents killed Maddy and disposed of her body.

 

Has anyone questioned them?

Yes, but they were sleeping and know nothing.

[hugo]

Yes, but they were sleeping and know nothing.

 

Plus they will now only have to split the eventual inheritance two ways. They may have been in on it.

[Anna Perenna]

Yes, but they were sleeping and know nothing.

 

Pardon me, I didn't mean at the time of the alleged abduction.

 

I mean, if all these theories about the parents killing Maddy beforehand then disposing of her body are to be seriously considered, then we have to wonder where the twins were the entire time all of this covert criminal activity was going on.

 

I know they were only 2 years old at the time, and that anything they say could be considered dubious - but it's hard for me to believe that two parents who loved kids so much that they used IVF to conceive twins would kill their first child, then coldly organise a tag-team effort for the aftermath, with one on babysitting duty and the other on body disposal duty.

[snafu]

Pardon me, I didn't mean at the time of the alleged abduction.

 

I mean, if all these theories about the parents killing Maddy beforehand then disposing of her body are to be seriously considered, then we have to wonder where the twins were the entire time all of this covert criminal activity was going on.

 

I know they were only 2 years old at the time, and that anything they say could be considered dubious - but it's hard for me to believe that two parents who loved kids so much that they used IVF to conceive twins would kill their first child, then coldly organise a tag-team effort for the aftermath, with one on babysitting duty and the other on body disposal duty.

 

They are two year olds. They could've been in the car with the body and never new it. And the body was supposedly placed in the trunk. That's were the cadaver dogs made a hit.

 

Nobody has made the claim that they intentionally killed the child. I don't think they did. I think it was an accident.

And if these people loved their kids so much why did they leave them alone in the first place? Hmmm..? It wouldn't even cross my mind or any sane person to leave kids this age alone.

[Anna Perenna]

They are two year olds. They could've been in the car with the body and never new it. And the body was supposedly placed in the trunk. That's were the cadaver dogs made a hit.

 

Nobody has made the claim that they intentionally killed the child. I don't think they did. I think it was an accident.

And if these people loved their kids so much why did they leave them alone in the first place? Hmmm..? It wouldn't even cross my mind or any sane person to leave kids this age alone.

 

Whoa, I never said they intentionally killed her.

 

I just think the case against the parents makes no sense.

 

And as Judge Judith Sheindlin always says: If it makes no sense, it probably isn't true.

[ImWithStupid]

Whoa, I never said they intentionally killed her.

 

I just think the case against the parents makes no sense.

 

And as Judge Judith Sheindlin always says: If it makes no sense, it probably isn't true.

 

OK, did you just quote, Judge Judy? That's funny.

[Anna Perenna]

OK, did you just quote, Judge Judy? That's funny.

 

The one and only! She's a smart lady, that Judge Judy.

[Anna Perenna]

Another girl disappears in Portugal

 

16th January 2008

 

Private detectives hired to find British girl Madeleine McCann are attempting to establish if there is a link with the recent disappearance of a young Spanish girl.

 

Mari Luz Cortez, five, vanished from Huelva, on the Spanish border on Sunday.

 

It is about 200km away from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz, where Madeleine disappeared on May 3 last year.

 

According to reports, Mari Luz Cortez was last seen on Sunday afternoon going to buy a packet of crisps from a local shop. Her family, who raised the alarm after searching for her themselves when she failed to return, are said to fear she has been abducted.

 

Officers have been scouring the area for the girl, and Portuguese police have also been carrying out searches on their side of the border.

 

The McCanns? spokesman Clarence Mitchell said there were ?comparisons? that could be made, but stressed it was too early to say if the two cases were linked.

 

He said detective agency Metodo 3 were looking into the Spanish youngster?s disappearance as a priority.

 

He said: ?Our investigators, Metodo 3 are working very closely with the Spanish police in the first instance, and with the family to establish whether there are any links or similarities.?

 

He said Kate and Gerry McCann were aware of the case and their thoughts were with the youngster?s family.

 

?Kate and Gerry are aware of her disappearance,? he said.

 

?They are highly concerned to hear that another young girl has gone missing in the region. Their thoughts and prayers are with the Cortez family.?

 

He added: ?They of all people on the planet can imagine the sort of agony the family are going through.?

 

The McCanns themselves travelled to Huelva in August last year to raise awareness in the region about their daughter?s disappearance.

 

Another girl disappears in Portugal : thewest.com.au

[atlantic]

Another girl disappears in Portugal

 

16th January 2008

 

Private detectives hired to find British girl Madeleine McCann are attempting to establish if there is a link with the recent disappearance of a young Spanish girl.

 

Mari Luz Cortez, five, vanished from Huelva, on the Spanish border on Sunday.

 

It is about 200km away from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz, where Madeleine disappeared on May 3 last year.

 

According to reports, Mari Luz Cortez was last seen on Sunday afternoon going to buy a packet of crisps from a local shop. Her family, who raised the alarm after searching for her themselves when she failed to return, are said to fear she has been abducted.

 

Officers have been scouring the area for the girl, and Portuguese police have also been carrying out searches on their side of the border.

 

The McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell said there were “comparisons” that could be made, but stressed it was too early to say if the two cases were linked.

 

He said detective agency Metodo 3 were looking into the Spanish youngster’s disappearance as a priority.

 

He said: “Our investigators, Metodo 3 are working very closely with the Spanish police in the first instance, and with the family to establish whether there are any links or similarities.”

 

He said Kate and Gerry McCann were aware of the case and their thoughts were with the youngster’s family.

 

“Kate and Gerry are aware of her disappearance,” he said.

 

“They are highly concerned to hear that another young girl has gone missing in the region. Their thoughts and prayers are with the Cortez family.”

 

He added: “They of all people on the planet can imagine the sort of agony the family are going through.”

 

The McCanns themselves travelled to Huelva in August last year to raise awareness in the region about their daughter’s disappearance.

 

Another girl disappears in Portugal : thewest.com.au

Interesting, what always surprizes me in most of these cases is the lack of witnesses, or peoples' fear of coming forward. There was a woman in the Maddy case who was reluctant to come forward with info that she had seen a man carrying maddy.

[timesjoke]

Has anyone noticed this is the third time Metodo 3 has made press releases with theories to take attention away from the parents but still no real evidence, no solid proof and their original claim to have maddy home by Christmas is not getting any time from the news to show how unreliable they are?

[atlantic]

According to the Telegraph.co.uk this is the latest on any witness of the Mari Luz Cortez case:

 

One woman claimed to have seen a girl fitting her description on a bus later on Sunday night, accompanied by a gypsy woman who kept shouting at her to stop crying.

 

Mari Luz Cortez is the 5 yr old girl who went missing recently from Huelva which is approximately 120 miles from the portuguese resort Praia da Luz where Maddy was last seen.

[Jhony5]

Has anyone noticed this is the third time Metodo 3 has made press releases with theories to take attention away from the parents but still no real evidence, no solid proof and their original claim to have maddy home by Christmas is not getting any time from the news to show how unreliable they are?

 

This sounds more like news than a theory cooked up by unscrupulous deceitful investigators. I think you should try some impartiality when approaching this ambiguous situation. None of us really have any idea of what did, or may have, happened. All we have are theories.

[snafu]

This sounds more like news than a theory cooked up by unscrupulous deceitful investigators. I think you should try some impartiality when approaching this ambiguous situation. None of us really have any idea of what did, or may have, happened. All we have are theories.

 

It's a high profile case so the media will do anything to make a buck. They'll keep posting theories cause we're still intrested.