Maddy McCann

[Jhony5]

OK first a pot sniffing dog that f cks up is totally different than a cadaver dog that gets a hit. Your pot dog must not have been trained right. When a cadaver dog gets a hit its usually 100% accurate.

 

The two are the same. A dog trained to hit on a particular scent. They make mistakes. Most states even hold annual police dog competitions. With winners and losers.

 

And BTW....."usally 100%" is a nonsensical statement. Akin to "kinda pregnant" and "sorta dead".

 

Police dogs are just that, dogs. They screw up all the time. ALL THE TIME. They even attack innocent bystanders and their own masters.

Strange in San Antonio: "Police dog bites officer instead of suspects during chase"

LAPD Blog: Dog Attacks Officers

ScanGwinnett - Police dog bites two officers

 

Second I would venture to say 100 pounds could sink a 50 pound body.

For about 2-3 days, yes. Then the bacteria will eat away at the corpse and fill it with gases.

 

Corpses actually have more air in them that living bodies. That is why they look so bloated and unpleasant.

 

This is a natural process caused by the bacteria that are still living in the body, and breaking it down. One of the byproducts of this process is a number of waste gases.

 

Even if a dead body is heavily weighted down on the bottom of a lake or river, it will eventually float to the surface because of the large buoyant forces provided by these gases.

 

Third They rented this car after the abduction. Why did they need one now but not before?

They were in a resort town. I suppose they didn't need one. When their daughter went missing, they had to stay in town. Thusly, they needed a rental car.

 

The motive is simple. They wanted a night of fun without the kids and they ed up.

Thats not a motive for murder. Thats irresponsible and negligent parenting. But not motive for murder. What you're saying is that the parents thought "Hey, I really wanna go out and have fun tonight. Let's murder our daughter and not our son".

 

You see how that's not making sense?

 

Oh and a little bit of money and they could've hired a local to find the perfect drop of point for the body.

Ahh, yes. Most resort towns have a "Body disposal expert" shop, aye?

 

WTF? How do you suppose they would go about securing this "local man"? Just walking around and asking "Hey local man, I'll pay you to tell me where the best place is to dump a body"?

 

Honestly. You guys are starting to sound like those talking heads on FOX news. Just trying to make something out of nothing.

[hugo]

Yep, we all transport our bloody child in the trunk of a car...they are guilty as hell. A disembowled weighted down body ain't rising to the surface.

[Jhony5]

Yep, we all transport our bloody child in the trunk of a car...they are guilty as hell.

You have no reason to say that. Other than maybe it's more entertaining to think that. This evidence doesn't even exist. If it did, there would be an indictment by now. Think about it.

 

A disembowled weighted down body ain't rising to the surface.

It is not the internal organs that cause the bloating. Or the visceral cavity. Even a severed limb/torso will bloat with gas and float to the surface.

 

Some background;

 

Why are bodies in the water always facedown? - By Daniel Engber - Slate Magazine

 

 

As a general rule, yes. A cadaver in the water starts to sink as soon as the air in its lungs is replaced with water. Once submerged, the body stays underwater until the bacteria in the gut and chest cavity produce enough gas—methane, hydrogen sulfide, and carbon dioxide—to float it to the surface like a balloon. (The buildup of methane, hydrogen sulfide, and other gases can take days or weeks, depending on a number of factors.) At first, not all parts of the body inflate the same amount: The torso, which contains the most bacteria, bloats more than the head and limbs. The most buoyant body parts rise first, leaving the head and limbs to drag behind the chest and abdomen. Since arms, legs, and the head can only drape forward from the body, corpses tend to rotate such that the torso floats face down, with arms and legs hanging beneath it.

 

I can't find exact weight/density specifications, but I'll keep looking just for the morbid fun of it. I know they've found bodies floating with several cinder blocks anchored to them. All I remember for sure is that I was shocked by the amount of pull and buoyancy the gases create.

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

BULL !. These are animals that eat vomit and garbage and lick their own balls and assholes. I once had a drug dog run on my vehicle and show no hit. Despite the fact that all of the three occupants had in excess of a quarter ounce of marijuana on them, each, and we had not 3 minutes prior extinguished a joint that we had smoked to the nub. I would be willing to swear this on my child. Its true as true can be true.

 

Was it a French Poodle ? Maybe you got pulled over in Hickstown by a bunch of inbreeds who wouldn't of thought to trial the dog periodically. What you report is hard to believe, but I'll go for it. I think it did happen, but it is pretty unusual.

 

There is a breed of dog in the UK called a blood hound. I saw a programme on TV where several of them were given a vest to sniff. The vest was then given to a long distance runner who ran 20 miles with it. The vest never once touched the ground. The dogs finally ran the guy down. They had followed a scent in the air, not on the ground. Winds and breezes could not hide the trail from these dogs. Amazing. Dogs who can perform as these are selected for duty here by the police. My money on those dogs being right.

 

None of this evidence has been publicly presented. It is not to be trusted. There are a number of reasonable explanations for this.

 

I don't have to await public presentation. If these are the facts, then they are the facts, leaked/presented or otherwise.

 

It would take approximately 200 pounds of attached weight to hold down a 50 pound corpse in water. The bacterial breakdown creates an excessive release of gas approximately 2-3 days after being dumped in ocean water. The gas will lift the body unless it has 3 times the bodies weight attached to it.

 

Probably correct. It's not difficult to do either is it ? You need time/money/a hire boat/darkness/motivation ie lets hide this corpse before the cops find it. hey certainly had all these.

 

 

 

Tidal movements and currents would have to be accounted for, unless they got real f cking lucky and just happened to choose a spot in a completely unfamiliar foreign land that was suitable to dump a body in the water and not have it come ashore, despite the weight attached to it.

 

I think just about most deep water several miles from land would do here. Or maybe they did bury the kid in the churchyard at the chapel where these good Christians were wont to pray every day. he police are still searching the site.

 

 

Motive is key. With any murder investigation the key element in either clearing or indicting a suspect is motive. There is NO MOTIVE for the parents. No psychological or psychiatric issues. No criminal history. No insurance motivation. Not so much as a whisper of sexual abuse charges. Nothing. No motive = not a suspect.

 

 

Motives are not always immediately apparent.

 

But here are a few. Assuming they did unintentionally poison the toddler, they do not want this fact to become public knowledge, hence the body must not be found.

 

If they did intentionally kill the child, they do not want to go to jail.

 

There are also other potential motives, some of which you have listed above.

[hugo]

You could probably just throw the kid in a dumpster.

[Jhony5]

Was it a French Poodle ? Maybe you got pulled over in Hickstown by a bunch of inbreeds who wouldn't of thought to trial the dog periodically. What you report is hard to believe, but I'll go for it. I think it did happen, but it is pretty unusual.

German Shepard. Johnson County sheriffs pulled me and two friends over as we were smoking a few joints on our lunch hour several years ago.

 

I swear this on anything, it was the weirdest run in with the cops I ever had. We all had pot. I was looking at the red and blue lights on the cop car through a haze of pot smoke in my mirror. We rolled the windows down and lit cigarettes. The officer asked me if I consent to a search. "OH sh t I'm f cked". I said yes and started to exit my Jeep. He said "No, just stay inside the vehicle and place your hands on the steering wheel and be quite". He walks around to the front of my car with a dog and start saying something inaudible to it while bouncing a red rubber ball, getting the dog all worked up. He barks to the dog "Lets go" and walks the animal around my Jeep twice, all the while sniffing the exterior of my Jeep. He approaches me, hands my license back and gives me the ONLY F CKING ticket for a moving violation that I've ever gotten. A warning ticket for going 35 in a 30. WTF? I had a black guy with me, so I suppose that was the reason for the ordeal.

 

This is a true story I swear it on anything.

 

I don't have to await public presentation. If these are the facts, then they are the facts, leaked/presented or otherwise

They aren't facts. Its a rouse. If it was a fact, then we would know. If it was a rouse, then we would be clueless, as we are now.

 

But here are a few. Assuming they did unintentionally poison the toddler, they do not want this fact to become public knowledge, hence the body must not be found.

 

If they did intentionally kill the child, they do not want to go to jail.

 

There are also other potential motives, some of which you have listed above.

It is not a motive until it is shown to be present. Until then it is just a theory.

[timesjoke]

Just to let you know, we are not talking about a dog failing to hit on pot, we are talking about dogs that "did" hit on both the appartment and vehicle, that is as close to 100% as you can get that a dead body was at these two places.

 

 

Now, that does not meak it was this girl, but it does mean there was a dead body in both places, a thing that looks very bad for these people.

 

 

 

 

As I said before, these are two very well educated people and as doctors, they would know all about body boyancy for disposal, the best way to be sure is to simple vent the body, cut every large section and muscle group, that is assuming a water disposal, there are many ways of disposing a body, again something two well trained doctors would understand.

 

 

 

 

To reply to Jhony about my leaving kids alone comment:

 

Would you leave your small kids all alone in a motel room in a strange Country?

 

 

I do not know even one parent that would do such a thing. I have three kids and am a school volunteer who helps at field trips and such. I do headcounts every few minutes and am working my eyes over the kids at all times and almost have a cow if there is even a second I cannot account for every child.

 

 

Good parents would never do what these parents did, that is why they should face child endangerment charges at the least in my view.

 

 

 

And yes, it is possible they killed this girl by accident, I even believe that is what happened but they had lives, careers and social status to protect, if it was discovered that they medicated their children so they could go out and have fun unhindered by their kids and caused one of their deaths, that would ruin them.

 

I call that a powerful motive for hiding the body.

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

German Shepard. Johnson County sheriffs pulled me and two friends over as we were smoking a few joints on our lunch hour several years ago. ]

 

Never seen a German Sheppard used for sniffing out drugs here. That's a strong arm dog for setting on people resisting arrest. Drug/gun sniffing dogs here tend to be smaller types- mongrels who can cut the mustard.

 

I swear this on anything, it was the weirdest run in with the cops I ever had. We all had pot. I was looking at the red and blue lights on the cop car through a haze of pot smoke in my mirror. We rolled the windows down and lit cigarettes. The officer asked me if I consent to a search. "OH sh t I'm f cked". I said yes and started to exit my Jeep. He said "No, just stay inside the vehicle and place your hands on the steering wheel and be quite". He walks around to the front of my car with a dog and start saying something inaudible to it while bouncing a red rubber ball, getting the dog all worked up. He barks to the dog "Lets go" and walks the animal around my Jeep twice, all the while sniffing the exterior of my Jeep. He approaches me, hands my license back and gives me the ONLY F CKING ticket for a moving violation that I've ever gotten. A warning ticket for going 35 in a 30. WTF? I had a black guy with me, so I suppose that was the reason for the ordeal.This is a true story I swear it on anything.]

 

Well, I believe you johny I swear. but it sounds like a scene from a Cheech and Chong film, but anyhow , I believe you..

 

Next time you'd better leave Mr Tibbs behind. No point pressing your luck..

 

They aren't facts. Its a rouse. If it was a fact, then we would know. If it was a rouse, then we would be clueless, as we are now.]

 

Well it would be grossly stupid to not try the dogs here. So I'm guessing it actually happened. Maybe the dogs reported nothing, but the police pretended that they did. Perhaps this is what happened. But if dogs reported a stiff at the apartment and the car boot, I'm with the dogs on this.

 

It is not a motive until it is shown to be present. Until then it is just a theory.

 

Put it anyway you like johny, but like I said earlier, motives are not always apparent. Just because you/we cant see it, does not mean there is not one. If they are guilty then they are as motivated as hell to avoid loss of their jobs/ societies scorn/ jail/ and of course his/her inability to estimate a correct dose for a toddler- they are supposed to be doctors for sake. Bungling amateurs more like.

[Jhony5]

Never seen a German Sheppard used for sniffing out drugs here. That's a strong arm dog for setting on people resisting arrest. Drug/gun sniffing dogs here tend to be smaller types- mongrels who can cut the mustard.

The dogs name was "Kilo". So my assumption is that he is a trained drug sniffer. And recreational as hole sniffer.

 

Well, I believe you johny I swear. but it sounds like a scene from a Cheech and Chong film, but anyhow , I believe you..

About 6 years of my life was a scene from a Cheech and Chong movie. I've got much more interesting true stories from my days as a druggy. But this is not the time, place or thread for such tales 'O' debauchery.

 

Next time you'd better leave Mr Tibbs behind. No point pressing your luck..

His name was Titus.

 

Just to let you know, we are not talking about a dog failing to hit on pot, we are talking about dogs that "did" hit on both the apartment and vehicle, that is as close to 100% as you can get that a dead body was at these two places.

Sure it did wink wink;). "No reason to fear, prospective tourists, we have the kidnappers right here. It's safe to visit us and bring your wife and kids..........OH oh and your credit card.

 

As I said before, these are two very well educated people and as doctors, they would know all about body boyancy for disposal, the best way to be sure is to simple vent the body, cut every large section and muscle group, that is assuming a water disposal, there are many ways of disposing a body, again something two well trained doctors would understand.

Very good point TJ.

 

It would seem to me however that at least one of these doctors would have to be a f cking psychopath to dismember that beautiful little girl like a Thanksgiving turkey. Even in a time of panic, it takes hefty man cans and a twisted mind to beset upon such a journey into morbidity.

 

To reply to Jhony about my leaving kids alone comment:

 

Would you leave your small kids all alone in a motel room in a strange Country?

 

NEVER! An unequivocal NEVER! I am a paranoid parent. Overprotective to the point whereas my ex-wife hated it. She's 8 years old and I won't let her out of my sight unless she's with a trusted adult.

 

I do not know even one parent that would do such a thing.

I have met many that do much worse. From the trailer park to the suburbs.

 

Good parents would never do what these parents did, that is why they should face child endangerment charges at the least in my view.

Agreed. Even if the kidnapper is caught. Book 'em Dano.

 

And yes, it is possible they killed this girl by accident, I even believe that is what happened but they had lives, careers and social status to protect, if it was discovered that they medicated their children so they could go out and have fun unhindered by their kids and caused one of their deaths, that would ruin them.

 

I call that a powerful motive for hiding the body.

But that's just conjecture. A fast patched together scenario. One of thousands a person could dream up. The absence of evidence and the egregious nature of the dubious investigation have soiled my ability to accuse the parents.

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

The dogs name was "Kilo". So my assumption is that he is a trained drug sniffer. And recreational as hole sniffer..

 

Are you sure this dog was sniffing and not snorting ? I think I know why Kilo is such a waste of space

 

About 6 years of my life was a scene from a Cheech and Chong movie. I've got much more interesting true stories from my days as a druggy. But this is not the time, place or thread for such tales.

 

I can't wait to read the unexpurgated chronicles of Jony5

[Jhony5]

Are you sure this dog was sniffing and not snorting ? I think I know why Kilo is such a waste of space

I don't know what the dog was doing. ME? I was sh tting my pants, listening to this cop say "Find, kilo, find". Just waiting for it. "It" never happened.

 

I remember thinking "Why does this cop think I have a "kilo". Until it was over and I overheard him patting the dog aggressively saying "Good boy kilo, good boy".

 

I can't wait to read the unexpurgated chronicles of Jhony5

 

Lets just say this was the third time I thwarted a k-9. Twice by the Johnson County Sheriffs Department. Once at a Metallica concert.

 

 

Ahhhhhhh........good times!

[ImWithStupid]

In most situations where trained dogs missed something, in review, it was handler error not the dog. The handler missed the indication of the dog.

[snafu]

Dogs missing a sent or being thrown off is not the same as when they get a hit. When they find something there usually 100% accurate.

[snafu]

And with the evidence present I'm sure they could've used several dogs coming up with the same conclusion. There was a cadaver in the trunk of that car.

[Jhony5]

Dogs missing a sent or being thrown off is not the same as when they get a hit. When they find something there usually 100% accurate.

 

Excellent point. Diligent as always, Snaffy.

 

There was a cadaver in the trunk of that car.

Is it possible that the dog hit on a false scent? If I remember right, they smell a specific compound that is created by the decomposition of specifically, rotting human flesh. Also, I heard this compound is present in other less dubious matter. I'll research it later. No time now. I have porn 'O' plenty to consume.

[timesjoke]

But that's just conjecture. A fast patched together scenario. One of thousands a person could dream up. The absence of evidence and the egregious nature of the dubious investigation have soiled my ability to accuse the parents.

 

Three main points to consider:

 

1. In all cases of child death, family members are the "first" and most likely to be involved in that death based on all statistics world wide.

 

 

2. The cadaver dogs hit on a dead body in both the room and in the vehicle later rented by the parents and body fluids were recovered that gave a very close match to the child.

 

 

3. No reasonable parent would leave small children alone in a room while vactioning in another Country.

 

 

The most logical consideration at this point is the parents had something to do with the death and are covering it up. I am not a court of law, I am a human able to make up my own mind based on information that is available and if new information comes along, I will consider that but so far, I am leaning tword the idea that they drugged their children so they could go out and have fun without having to be bothered with caring for them and accidently killed one of them.

[ImWithStupid]

The most logical consideration at this point is the parents had something to do with the death and are covering it up. I am not a court of law, I am a human able to make up my own mind based on information that is available and if new information comes along, I will consider that but so far, I am leaning tword the idea that they drugged their children so they could go out and have fun without having to be bothered with caring for them and accidently killed one of them.

 

This or they possibly left the child alone and the child died as a result of some accident, and the parents knew they would be either held accountable by authorities for negligence or be looked down upon by friends, family, or the public for their child dying as a result of them being selfish/irresponsible.

[timesjoke]

This or they possibly left the child alone and the child died as a result of some accident, and the parents knew they would be either held accountable by authorities for negligence or be looked down upon by friends, family, or the public for their child dying as a result of them being selfish/irresponsible.

 

 

I can buy that as well, I am just certain they were involved in some way and will continue to do so until some evidence comes along to show someone else did this.

 

At the very least they are guilty of child endangerment just for leaving their kids alone like that so I see no reason they are walking around free.

[snafu]

Another thing that puzzles me is that I haven't heard of any other abductions. Why would this be an isolated case? If your gonna snatch one kid why stop there? If there's a market for kids then ones never enough.

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

At the very least they are guilty of child endangerment just for leaving their kids alone like that so I see no reason they are walking around free.

 

It might be that they never left Maddie alone that night. She may already have been dead by then.

 

The "we left the kids alone" excuse may just be a lie. It's purpose being to introduce the notion of an abduction to divert attention from themselves.

 

It's an extreme theory. We just dont know yet what happened.

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

Another thing that puzzles me is that I haven't heard of any other abductions. Why would this be an isolated case? If your gonna snatch one kid why stop there? If there's a market for kids then ones never enough.

 

In the UK thousands of kids go missing every year. Mostly run-aways I suppose.

 

From time to time we get to read about weirdo's like that Austrian guy. He kidnapped a 10 year old. She finally managed to escape 12 years later. We still dont know what was going on, but I imagine she was a sex slave.

 

Then we have had Fred and Rosemary West who kidnapped and killed perhaps a dozen or more youngsters. And of course there was Myra and Ian Brady. And of course there were those two paedophiles in Belgium who came to light a few years ago. Their victims died of starvation while the perps were under prolonged arrest.

 

It's not nice to think about but there are probably several kids out there locked up in quiet places

 

What sickens me is that often these guys have done time for similar offences, and are then released. They then offend again. Like the killer of Sarah Payne. Ian Huntley had also demonstrated an unnatural interest in children, long before he murdered Jessie and Holly.

 

I dont thnk its appropriate to release such men after jail sentence completion. Offenders of a certain type it should be jailed for life. Not because of what they have done, but for what they would probably do again given the chance.

 

Punishment without the crime ? Yes, I'd rather have this for certain criminal types, rather than read another horor story like the torture and murder of Sarah Payne

[snafu]

I'm just saying is see no trend in this problem in Morocco. I can't find anything on google. But if it was a problem already you would think they would have some leads. This is why I think it was the parents. There's no other crimes similar that I know of. If there was a slave or baby trade going on you would think there would be some talk of such things.

[Jhony5]

So what's so impossible about your standard stranger abduction crime of opportunity scenario? Is it just not as fun to think about as the parents being the killers?

 

 

I think the bit about the cadaver dogs is bullsh t. Seems as though more would have come from that information if the police felt it was strong evidence.

 

A few issues I have with this investigation;

 

One former police officer described the McCann apartment as the "worst preserved crime scene" he had ever witnessed.

 

The force in the Algarve was said to have been too slow to respond and had not taken the abduction seriously, believing that Madeleine had wandered off.

 

Her bedroom and the surrounding area was not sealed properly, leaving the possibility of forensic evidence being contaminated. It was also alleged that, in the early stages, officers failed to make house-to-house inquiries in the resort and that other apartments in the complex were not searched until 48 hours after Madeleine vanished. Resort staff were not questioned for 60 hours.

 

The blunder that sparked the most anger was that Spanish border police - less than three hours' drive away - were not informed about the incident until the following morning, giving a kidnapper every opportunity to flee.

 

 

Maddie McCann: 'No body, no case' - MSNBC TV - MSNBC.com

It gets worse, or worser, if I can use made up words to describe this;

 

Information coming forth now suggests that the “significant amount of forensic evidence” the Portuguese police have said links the McCanns to Madeleine’s disappearance actually may be, as suspected from the start, just an attempt by the police to put pressure on the parents to either make them confess or chase them out of Portugal.

 

The British forensic lab that examined the evidence gathered by the police from the hotel room from which Madeleine allegedly disappeared and the rental car police have suggested was used by the parents to transport Madeleine’s dead body, have stated that police “widely misused” the results of the forensic examinations, leaking to the local Portuguese media false and damning information allegedly supporting the police theory that the McCanns were responsible for Madeleine’s disappearance and death.

 

Jhony5 already been done said this stuff 'n junk.

 

MOAR?

At the current time, this prosecutor has stated that there is insufficient physical evidence to “prove” she was killed by her parents or by anyone else for that matter. Evidently the concrete, slam-dunk evidence the police have been telling the local media about is actually inconclusive as to Madeleine, and may be consistent with her parent’s story that any physical evidence linked to Madeleine that may have been found in the rental car was simply DNA or hair of hers that had been transferred to the vehicle from the family’s possessions that have been moved by her parents in that car.

 

The parents don't fit AT ALL into a psychological profile. They have no motive. The inane and utterly baseless assertion that they drugged Maddy to death so they could go have fun, makes no sense and has no merit. If they wanted to go out that bad, they would have taken advantage of the in-house baby sitting service. What we have here are two parents that were absent minded and complacent enough to leave their kids sleeping for a few hours.

 

It's that one thing they don't know. That one glimpse of the man that took her, walking away, that went uncaptured. The pedophile that first noticed Maddy in the lobby with her parents. The same pedo that saw her parents without Maddy. Logical deduction and the offer of opportunity was all it took. With the drop of a few lock pins by way a few wires, the predator enters, picks up his sleeping query, and walks away unnoticed.

 

The local police trample the crime scene, fail to act in a pro-active manner, fail to properly interview people and in an autonomous default move, they accuse the only people they can see. They lie and release trumped up "evidence" to the media and then bring them in for an interrogation, hoping to have them shaken.

[timesjoke]

So what's so impossible about your standard stranger abduction crime of opportunity scenario? Is it just not as fun to think about as the parents being the killers?

 

No, most crimes of harm to children involve a close family member or close friend of the family. In this case, only the parents meet that description due to them being in another country at the time.

 

I think the bit about the cadaver dogs is bullsh t. Seems as though more would have come from that information if the police felt it was strong evidence.

 

Not much more that you can make of it. The cadaver dogs are like a pregnancy test, you are either pregnant or not, in this case, there either was a human corpse in the appartment and vehicle or not, the dogs hit on a dead body, that is all there is to say.

 

 

 

The parents don't fit AT ALL into a psychological profile. They have no motive. The inane and utterly baseless assertion that they drugged Maddy to death so they could go have fun, makes no sense and has no merit. If they wanted to go out that bad, they would have taken advantage of the in-house baby sitting service. What we have here are two parents that were absent minded and complacent enough to leave their kids sleeping for a few hours.

 

 

Let's look at that for a second.

 

They admit they wanted to go out with friends without their children, this is not in dispute. Why did they "not" get the in-house baby sitting service as you say they could have?

 

Why leave tiny children without any supervision in a strange Country when you can easily use the sitter? This is the biggest flaw with their story, they have no good reason to leave these small children completely alone. Children only need a second to get hurt and die, as doctors they know this but still they felt safe to leave them unattended.

 

Why did they feel so safe?

 

Is there a reason they knew that there was no way their tiny children could have gotten into mischief without supervision? Maybe because the chindren were drugged?

 

Yes, I know there is not facts to prove this but as a parent I cannot accept that any parent would leave their kids unattended in this kind of scenario without some good reason to believe the kids could not get into trouble while out of sight and hearing of the parents in a strange Country.

 

It's that one thing they don't know. That one glimpse of the man that took her, walking away, that went uncaptured. The pedophile that first noticed Maddy in the lobby with her parents. The same pedo that saw her parents without Maddy. Logical deduction and the offer of opportunity was all it took. With the drop of a few lock pins by way a few wires, the predator enters, picks up his sleeping query, and walks away unnoticed.

 

Why a man, why not a woman?

 

Why a pedafile, why not a slave trading ring that was looking for children?

 

The what ifs can go on forever but there is not one shred of evidence showing anyone else was involved in this case.

 

 

The local police trample the crime scene, fail to act in a pro-active manner, fail to properly interview people and in an autonomous default move, they accuse the only people they can see. They lie and release trumped up "evidence" to the media and then bring them in for an interrogation, hoping to have them shaken.

 

Again, the most likely suspects for crimes against children are close family and friends, not strangers. By looking at the only people that fit that description in this case (the parents) they had a 90% chance of getting it right.

 

 

 

Having proof they were involved based on what can pass in a court of law is completely different than what we need to know these parents are most likely involved in reality. O.J. Simpson was found innocent of killing his ex-wife and friend but in reality, he did kill them so I could care less what a court says in cases like this.

 

 

At the minimum, these parents put their children into harms way to go have fun without their children, that is criminal and a tiny little girl paid the price for their fun.

 

How can people forget that?

[ImWithStupid]

So what's so impossible about your standard stranger abduction crime of opportunity scenario? Is it just not as fun to think about as the parents being the killers?

 

I never think it's fun to think about dead children, no matter what or who the cause.