the debate over wez's debate skillz

[wez]

You lie all the time, I am just pointing out the first lie I saw you tell.

 

You said all soldiers are brainwashed killers, and that is a lie, now admit it or stop saying you follow the teachings of Jesus because he did not teach us to be liers.

 

 

Do soldiers kill at the order of another?

[timesjoke]

Do soldiers kill at the order of another?

 

 

No, that is not how it works.

 

And you know that.

 

 

I have mentioned the rules of engagement several times now, please stop avoiding the point that you lied and are now avoiding taking responsibility for that lie.

 

Again, Jesus did not teach us to lie, so if you refuse to admit this lie, stop talking about Jesus.

[wez]

No, that is not how it works.

 

And you know that.

 

 

I have mentioned the rules of engagement several times now, please stop avoiding the point that you lied and are now avoiding taking responsibility for that lie.

 

Again, Jesus did not teach us to lie, so if you refuse to admit this lie, stop talking about Jesus.

 

 

 

Rules of engagment = orders. Yes, you mentioned them, explain them.

 

I'll talk about Jesus anytime I want, thank you.

[timesjoke]

 

Rules of engagment = orders. Yes, you mentioned them, explain them.

 

No, again you are wrong, please do not talk of things you do not understand.

 

 

Being a soldier is the same as being anyone else. They have a job to do just like you and me. They have families, morals, and free thinking just like anyone else.

 

The ruls of engagement just spells out when and how deadly force is allowed in their jobs.

 

They are not blind killing machines as you say they are.

 

 

I'll talk about Jesus anytime I want, thank you.

 

and be a hypocrite because you are a proven lier who refuses to even admit it.

[wez]

No, again you are wrong, please do not talk of things you do not understand.

 

 

Being a soldier is the same as being anyone else. They have a job to do just like you and me. They have families, morals, and free thinking just like anyone else.

 

The ruls of engagement just spells out when and how deadly force is allowed in their jobs.

 

They are not blind killing machines as you say they are.

 

 

 

 

and be a hypocrite because you are a proven lier who refuses to even admit it.

 

Why do you still want to punish me for your guilt?

 

 

wez: 10/24/07 Burma post to TJ

 

Bottom line, truth is the truth, and might doesn't equal right and what is ok for you/me/everyone to do to another, is ok for for every other to do to us and to deem otherwise can only be backed up by hypocrisy. It's a fact.. Test it.

 

 

wez 11/26/07

 

I rest my case.

[timesjoke]

Why do you still want to punish me for your guilt?

 

You told the lie, not me or anyone else.

 

Why do you keep dodging your guilt?

 

That is not what Jesus would do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I rest my case.

 

And prove yourself a hypocrite.

[wez]

You told the lie, not me or anyone else.

 

Why do you keep dodging your guilt?

 

That is not what Jesus would do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And prove yourself a hypocrite.

 

 

hypocrisy is the act of condemning another person for an act of which the critic is guilty ~ Wikapedia

 

 

You disagreed with something I said, personally attacked me, ran around a chat forum for over a month whining and complaining relentlessly about me, derailing every thread I posted in, claimed I was you and wanted to punish me for it.

 

You've already confessed.. I forgive you. Don't do it again.

 

 

 

As you can see, gathering a posse will not make it truth.. Your avatars head may be in my avatars mouth soon if you don't open your eyes and try logic next time..

[timesjoke]

hypocrisy is the act of condemning another person for an act of which the critic is guilty ~ Wikapedia

 

hypocrite -

1. a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion

2. a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

Webster Dictonary

 

You are a hypocrite because you spout all this stuff about believing in the teachings of Jesus but you lie all the time, you attack people all the time, you use profanity and call people names.

 

That is not the kind of behavior Jesus would condone.

 

You disagreed with something I said, personally attacked me, ran around a chat forum for over a month whining and complaining relentlessly about me, derailing every thread I posted in, claimed I was you and wanted to punish me for it.

 

 

No, I proved what you said to be a lie, and you are too cowardly to admit when you are wrong.

 

You've already confessed.. I forgive you. Don't do it again.

 

Wile I agree that I do admit to pointing out your lies, I will never stop doing just that as long as you keep telling lies.

 

As you can see, gathering a posse will not make it truth.. Your avatars head may be in my avatars mouth soon if you don't open your eyes and try logic next time..

 

I am not sure about what you were trying to say with the avatar thing but I will comment on the posse thing.

 

 

I imagine you feel persecuted because everyone that knows you dislikes you and you think there is some great conspiracy where these people only disagree with you for personal reasons but that is simply your mind playing tricks on you.

 

Everyone has problems with your being an idiot and a lier and acting like a child.

 

Now, if you would address these very poor social issues then people would be more inclined to accept you but clearly you bring this level of animosity on yourself.

[wez]

Everyone who loves themselves, loves me, and I was wrong, I deserve no credit, you have proven all those things yourself. Stop being a hypocrite and we'll get along just fine. You've told me enough about yourself.

[timesjoke]

Everyone who loves themselves, loves me,

 

So you believe that because everyone who has ever met you dislikes you they don't love themselves?

 

 

That is one huge God complex you have there Wez.

 

 

Again, you are the problem, not everyone else.

[wez]

So you believe that because everyone who has ever met you dislikes you they don't love themselves?

 

 

That is one huge God complex you have there Wez.

 

 

Again, you are the problem, not everyone else.

 

I'm only responsible for myself, and I love myself, therefore, I love everybody in this world. I forgive those who trespass against me. Just like Jesus tried to teach people.

 

 

Like I told you many times, one can only love themselves as much as the person they hate most.

 

What you hate is what you are and that is why you hate it.

[RegisteredAndEducated]

I'm only responsible for myself, and I love myself, therefore, I love everybody in this world. I forgive those who trespass against me. Just like Jesus tried to teach people.

 

 

Like I told you many times, one can only love themselves as much as the person they hate most.

 

What you hate is what you are and that is why you hate it.

 

this is the stupidest post i've ever read in my life... This is not true. This is bull .

[wez]

this is the stupidest post i've ever read in my life... This is not true. This is bull .

 

 

?The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.? ~ Jesus

[RegisteredAndEducated]

?The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.? ~ Jesus

 

way to misread that one wez... again.. Hypocrite.

[timesjoke]

And yet you are a lier.

 

Your every breath is a lie.

 

Your opinions are all based on self delusion.

 

Your life is lived as a scared little victim.

 

Your only sourse of feeling strong is on an internet forum where you can hide your true self from view.

 

 

 

Pathetic.

[wez]

And yet you are a lier.

 

Your every breath is a lie.

 

Your opinions are all based on self delusion.

 

Your life is lived as a scared little victim.

 

Your only sourse of feeling strong is on an internet forum where you can hide your true self from view.

 

 

 

Pathetic.

 

 

 

 

“The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.” ~ Jesus

 

 

What you hate is what you are and that is why you say it. ~ wez

[wez]

way to misread that one wez... again.. Hypocrite.

 

How can I be a hypocrite if I condemn no one? I don't try to give my guilt to anyone. If I do something wrong, If I feel guilty and learn from it.

 

If I suppress my guilt, I would run around a chat forum judging someone and looking down on them for being what I am and doing what I do, desperately trying to convince them they are me and try to force them to validate it for me so I can pretend it's them, and not me. Just like TJ, Junior, and eddo.

 

 

 

?If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you." ~ Jesus

 

 

You all have brought forth what is within you, I have done my best to show you so you can heal. It's up to you.

 

 

 

Hey Junior, if you doubt the words of Christ, ask TJ to honestly tell you if he has an ex wife who he feels committed adultry.

 

He has told no one here about his personal life other than his son joining the military. His words speak volumes and perhaps he doesn't have to hate her and want to kill her anymore now that he has brought forth what is within him.

[eddo]

Hey Junior, if you doubt the words of Christ, ask TJ to honestly tell you if he has an ex wife who he feels committed adultry.

He has told no one here about his personal life other than his son joining the military.

 

then why are you sharing about his personal life? Didn't you once get upset at me for doing that very thing to you?

 

 

That shows alot about your character wez

[wez]

then why are you sharing about his personal life? Didn't you once get upset at me for doing that very thing to you?

 

 

That shows alot about your character wez

 

 

 

I didn't get upset at you. I get upset at you for being a hypocrite. And when you did that, I did not get upset at you. Did I? And yes, it showed a lot about your character.

 

I didn't share it, TJ did, he just doesn't realize it.

 

Tell brotherman what I say is the truth eddo. You know it is.

[RegisteredAndEducated]

I guess I'm just slow on the uptake... eddo, go ahead and show all the little details you have about wez. He's telling alot more than his life story (with all the crap he's spewing) but I can't decipher it. You go ahead and tell us. He gave permission.

 

Tell brotherman[/b"] what I say is the truth eddo. You know it is.

[eddo]

I didn't get upset at you.

 

And when you did that, I did not get upset at you. Did I?

 

Yes, I am pretty sure you did get upset. I'll show brother man the thread and let him make up his own mind.

 

But I apologized for what I did (because it was wrong to use it to attack you with it,) and I moved on.

 

I would like to see you apologize to Tj for continually bringing up something about his personal life to attack him with.

[RegisteredAndEducated]

How can I be a hypocrite if I condemn no one? I don't try to give my guilt to anyone. If I do something wrong, If I feel guilty and learn from it.

 

That might be true... but you condemn everyone... So it is impossible to believe anything that you say. Try not lying and attacking people... it might help your case.

 

 

If I suppress my guilt, I would run around a chat forum judging someone and looking down on them for being what I am and doing what I do, desperately trying to convince them they are me and try to force them to validate it for me so I can pretend it's them, and not me. Just like TJ, Junior, and eddo.

 

That's what you do boy... don't you see?

 

 

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If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you." ~ Jesus

 

It's too bad you read these words and don't understand them... It really is.

 

 

You all have brought forth what is within you, I have done my best to show you so you can heal. It's up to you.

 

Haha, right... I don't need your help to heal bud. I've got family and friends for that. It would seem that you need some support. You need to find a good group to vent to or something. Admitting that you are wrong is the first step to being right wez. Find someone to help close those wounds.

 

 

Hey Junior, if you doubt the words of Christ, ask TJ to honestly tell you if he has an ex wife who he feels committed adultry.

 

What difference does it make? You can just about take a stab and be right when you're dealing with people... I'd strike it up to a lucky guess if you're right. The devil will mix in 1 lie with 1000 truths... guess what.. That still makes it a lie.

 

 

He has told no one here about his personal life other than his son joining the military. His words speak volumes and perhaps he doesn't have to hate her and want to kill her anymore now that he has brought forth what is within him.

 

... I'll bet he's never wanted to kill anyone so much as you've wanted to kill yourself wez. I was a psychology major... I know all the signs...

[wez]

Whoops.. double post.. May as well not waste it..

 

 

 

Shut the hell up, hypocrites.

[wez]

And eddo, I shared the personal info.. You said it in a way to try to intimidate me where only I would know to further your superior/inferior agenda.. Like you had something "over" me.. Didn't you? I told it myself immediately after I saw you do that.. Right? I have nothing to hide. And even then, I still didn't get upset at you, did I?

 

 

I don't desire to hurt TJ with what he revealed, like you did to me. I'd like him not to feel that way. Perhaps his own adultry is the root of the hate.

 

 

What you hate is what you are and that is why you hate it. ~ wez

[wez]

Yes, I am pretty sure you did get upset. I'll show brother man the thread and let him make up his own mind.

 

But I apologized for what I did (because it was wrong to use it to attack you with it,) and I moved on.

 

I would like to see you apologize to Tj for continually bringing up something about his personal life to attack him with.

 

 

 

When did you apologize? Never...

 

You think that is why I say that to TJ.. to hurt him, which is not the case, he's already hurting.. That is what you did to me, not what I am doing to TJ. So, mind your own business.