the debate over wez's debate skillz

[wez]

Would it be considered trolling if I used administration powers to spy/stalk certain members eddo? Did you ever spy/stalk me at TJ or SWYW eddo?

 

 

Others were spying on you too... and watched as you claimed I was you. After you called me a "stalker" one time after hypocritizing me for about the 40th time, one of them sent me a PM.. telling me something I already knew, and confirmed by yet another. I was banned at TJ at the time posting on SWYW... making your life miserable as I told the truth, soon to be invited back to TJ, as you imploded. Ring a bell? So next time you think it's gonna do you any good to convince anyone at this site of your bullsh t, think again.

[eddo]

You are truly insane.

Insane? No, if fact I backed up those comments with factual evidence. Go look again.

 

Eddo, why did BB unban me, jump your sh t, and deadministrate your ass as well as leave her own site and hand it over to fecky? I was already banned for a month or more when this took place.. I never asked to be let back. You tried to guilt her and used her friendship as a weapon against her for over 5 years. Nice friend.

What did she say to you about disagreeing with you and why doesn't she ever come around anymore? Think it had something to do with you? She said "I'm starting to see wez's TRUTH".. What did she mean by that?

What has Mrs. K said about your behavior? She knows.. and so does several others. Getting rid of the "turd that wont flush" will never change that. What you've done, you've done to yourself. Why would I ever be mad at you?

Remember?

 

The only part of this I am going to acknowledge, since the rest doesn't affect you at all and you know less about the situation than you think you do, is the part about my being de-modded:

 

I de-modded myself, and I made my reasons clear in the post where I announced that.

 

 

 

Lemme ask you a question wez:

Why do you get banned from everywhere you go, no matter who is in charge?

 

List of people that I know have banned you:

Eddo, BB, Merc (from TJ,) Phreak, Overfiend (from GF,) and at least 2 from SWYW (that I don't want to name because I don't know if you know it was them or if they want you to know.)

 

That is from 3 different sites. Why is it you have such a hard time sticking around?

(and before you go off: This is relevant to this discussion; and I don't mind if you don't want to answer this here or not, but ask yourself that question and answer it honestly.)

 

Admins being power hungry won't fly, because only 3 people have ever been banned from TJ. Ever. The whole 5+ years of the site. 3 people. 3.

and I am pretty sure that number was close to what it was at SWYW as well (but cannot say for sure.)

 

Be honest with yourself Wez.

[wez]

Insane? No, if fact I backed up those comments with factual evidence. Go look again.

 

Blow it out your ass, liar.

 

 

 

The only part of this I am going to acknowledge, since the rest doesn't affect you at all and you know less about the situation than you think you do, is the part about my being de-modded:

 

I de-modded myself, and I made my reasons clear in the post where I announced that.

 

 

Yes, you posted.. "I quit, wez, you win".. I told you "cool, what did I win, I didn't even know I was competing with you".

 

 

The rest of what, the friendship you so selfishly destroyed and prolly still blame it on her or me to this day?

 

 

Lemme ask you a question wez:

Why do you get banned from everywhere you go, no matter who is in charge?

 

 

I don't lick ass...

 

List of people that I know have banned you:

Eddo, BB, Merc (from TJ,) Phreak, Overfiend (from GF,) and at least 2 from SWYW (that I don't want to name because I don't know if you know it was them or if they want you to know.)

 

That is from 3 different sites. Why is it you have such a hard time sticking around?

(and before you go off: This is relevant to this discussion; and I don't mind if you don't want to answer this here or not, but ask yourself that question and answer it honestly.)

 

Admins being power hungry won't fly, because only 3 people have ever been banned from TJ. Ever. The whole 5+ years of the site. 3 people. 3.

and I am pretty sure that number was close to what it was at SWYW as well (but cannot say for sure.)

 

Be honest with yourself Wez.

 

 

I consider everyone of them, friend, cept overidiot, he threatened to hurt me.. Hahahaha

 

 

Why were you ISP banned by Radman and shouldn't have been allowed at any of his sites and he was surprised you were? He put me in to read yours and his chat.. What did he have to say to you?

[eddo]

Would it be considered trolling if I used administration powers to spy/stalk certain members eddo? Did you ever spy/stalk me at TJ or SWYW eddo?

 

No, it wouldn't be trolling, nor would it be considered spying or stalking. It would be using the sites security measures, entrusted to you by those in control, to keep the site safe and help keep the members content- which is a moderator/Administrator's responsibility.

 

Did I watch you try to bypass the sites security measures? Sure I did. It was my responsibility to do so.

[wez]

No, it wouldn't be trolling, nor would it be considered spying or stalking. It would be using the sites security measures, entrusted to you by those in control, to keep the site safe and help keep the members content- which is a moderator/Administrator's responsibility.

 

Did I watch you try to bypass the sites security measures? Sure I did. It was my responsibility to do so.

 

 

Dream on... Bypass security measures? Hahahahahaha... you are so full of sh t.. What did Radman ban YOU for? Seemed surprised you "bypassed his security measures"... ISP ban? Please explain.. He even mentioned something about you "getting around it". F cking lying hypocrite! Haven't you had enough?

 

 

Have you accused radman of being a control freak? Open your eyes eddo, I tire of showing you.

[eddo]

Blow it out your ass, liar.

 

Nice comeback. Can't dispute it, so attack and call names. +1 for me.

 

 

The rest of what, the friendship you so selfishly destroyed and prolly still blame it on her or me to this day?

 

Funny, I was under the impression that BB and I are still very much friends. Guess I know more about it than you do, huh?

 

Why were you ISP banned by Radman and shouldn't have been allowed at any of his sites and he was surprised you were? He put me in to read yours and his chat.. What did he have to say to you?

I don't understand what relevance that has to your lack of debate skills, or any other part of this discussion.

 

In fact, most of your last replies have little to do with you, and more with you trying to shift blame and attention to me.

 

nice try.

[eddo]

Dream on... Bypass security measures? Hahahahahaha... you are so full of sh t.. What did Radman ban YOU for? Seemed surprised you "bypassed his security measures"... ISP ban? Please explain.. He even mentioned something about you "getting around it". F cking lying hypocrite! Haven't you had enough?

 

 

Have you accused radman of being a control freak? Open your eyes eddo, I tire of showing you.

 

if you say so... believe whatever you want.

 

More name calling I see. Never could have a rational disagreement, could ya?

[wez]

Nice comeback. Can't dispute it, so attack and call names. +1 for me.

 

 

Turd, that wont flush...

 

 

 

 

Funny, I was under the impression that BB and I are still very much friends. Guess I know more about it than you do, huh?

 

 

Guess so.. BB is a sweetheart.

 

 

I don't understand what relevance that has to your lack of debate skills, or any other part of this discussion.

 

What, your ISP ban and subsequent bypassing of Radmans security measures?

 

In fact, most of your last replies have little to do with you, and more with you trying to shift blame and attention to me.

 

nice try.

 

 

 

Blame for what? For how you've treated me? I'm not your puppet master.. you're responsible.

[wez]

Why were you ISP banned eddo? Why did you bypass security?

[wez]

if you say so... believe whatever you want.

 

More name calling I see. Never could have a rational disagreement, could ya?

 

Lying, harrassing, stalking and slandering is not a disagreement, f ckhead.

 

And don't forget the hypocrisy!

 

I know why eddo... and so do you.

[Jhony5]

Epic bitch fight.

 

If this were a street fight, I would expect to see finger nails clawing and hair a pullin.

 

Why don't y'all relax and try not to take this virtual world so seriously?

[wez]

Epic bitch fight.

 

If this were a street fight, I would expect to see finger nails clawing and hair a pullin.

 

Why don't y'all relax and try not to take this virtual world so seriously?

 

 

Hahahaha.... people are people wherever you go..

[eddo]

Lying, harrassing, stalking and slandering is not a disagreement, f ckhead.

 

And don't forget the hypocrisy!

 

I know why eddo... and so do you.

ok, I've never lied about you, or to you, and you know as well as I do that the harrassing has gone both ways in the past. One of us has tried to move past it, and unfortunately, you keep sucking him back in.

 

The stalking is amzingly one sided, as EVERY discussion board you go to is one where I was there first. TJ, SWYW, GF, USM, TPMO, Justbs. Every one of them I was at BEFORE you... Honestly now, how can I stalk you when you follow me around?

 

and I have admitted many a time that i am indeed a hypocrite- you are the one that tosses it around to everyone but yourself.

 

If this isn't a disagreement, then what is it? Are you getting caught up in it?

 

I am trying to have a decent discussion about our disagreement, but if it is getting you all flustered (which it appears to be doing,) then maybe I should just let you be.

 

You go ahead and tell me if I need to be the bigger man and drop this (again.)

[wez]

ok, I've never lied about you, or to you, and you know as well as I do that the harrassing has gone both ways in the past. One of us has tried to move past it, and unfortunately, you keep sucking him back in.

 

 

Like I sucked you in to Brothermans post today?

 

 

 

The stalking is amzingly one sided, as EVERY discussion board you go to is one where I was there first. TJ, SWYW, GF, USM, TPMO, Justbs. Every one of them I was at BEFORE you... Honestly now, how can I stalk you when you follow me around?

 

I don't follow anyone anywhere for anything. I've only been online just short of 3 years.

 

and I have admitted many a time that i am indeed a hypocrite- you are the one that tosses it around to everyone but yourself.

 

 

Quit being one.

 

 

If this isn't a disagreement, then what is it? Are you getting caught up in it?

 

I am trying to have a decent discussion about our disagreement, but if it is getting you all flustered (which it appears to be doing,) then maybe I should just let you be.

 

You go ahead and tell me if I need to be the bigger man and drop this (again.)

 

 

Why were you ISP banned and have to bypass security at the tri sites?

[wez]

See, the difference is eddo, I don't claim you are what I am, spaz on you, and try to gather a posse and punish you with bannings, lies, and slander on sites where you cannot respond to me.

 

Everything I've said you are is what you told me you were, by accusing me of things that had never crossed my mind. And then you relentlessly want to punish me on top of it to this f cking day, hence, your quick entrance into this post today, describing yourself, and claiming it's me, once again . It's beyond sick and 20 years was enough. Get it?

 

 

I know you don't...

[wez]

Nor did I stick my face into every one of your interactions with other members, especially the female ones, did I?

 

Would that make me a troll eddo?

[timesjoke]

What a crybaby.

 

Wez, you need to get a life, every time I come here you have vomited crap all over the forum like it is your personal toilet.

 

 

You need to grow up and find a girlfriend or something, anything but this constant nagging and juvinile behavoir.

 

You are wrong, face it.

[wez]

What a crybaby.

 

Wez, you need to get a life, every time I come here you have vomited crap all over the forum like it is your personal toilet.

 

 

You need to grow up and find a girlfriend or something, anything but this constant nagging and juvinile behavoir.

 

You are wrong, face it.

 

 

Did I make this post? No? How odd...

 

 

Do you mean juvenile nagging like your opinion of me personally and your editing issues and whatnot? Didn't think so...

[ImWithStupid]

Did I make this post? No? How odd...

 

If you mean post #118 of this thread, then yes, you did. If you mean the thread, then no, you didn't.

[wez]

If you mean post #118 of this thread, then yes, you did. If you mean the thread, then no, you didn't.

 

 

Hahahahaha... How dare I use this "debate" as a toilet and post on a thread directed at me... I am wrong!

[RegisteredAndEducated]

Huh?

 

It's filler. A response to the garbage you posted.

 

Really, is that what I did today? Disagree with, and attack you?

 

You attack everyone you disagree with.

 

I should hope not..

 

I know, sad but true.

 

I've been online less than 3 years, TJ, GF, SWYW, here.. all wez, all the time. Call me what you will, but the fact that you're so concerned about me is quite baffling.. I got banned, so I should be banned? Is that your issue?

 

Oh brother, I'm not concerned with you. I just wanted to point out to you that you are annoying and lack any real debating skills, and I always try to argue without resorting to name calling. It's you who is doing that.

I didnt say "You got banned, so you should be banned." I believe that my argument was that, You get banned from every site you go to because you don't debate, you attack. That is kinda funny for the first post... then it gets annoying. And you do it at EVERY site you go to... and you get banned from EVERY site you go to... Once again, have you ever stopped and thought "you know... EVERY site i go to bans me, I wonder if it could just be me?" probably not, that requires rational thought.

 

 

If you know abuse, obviously you still validate it for someone and are becoming such yourself.. Don't wait til you're 36 like I did, bud..

 

I don't have any idea wtf you're talking about. I don't 'validate' abuse from anyone... I am not abusive... if you think i am, prove it. Seems to me like you're the abuser. I'll bet your ex girlfriend thought so too.

 

What the f ck do you think I did to you?

 

This was me, not you, right?

 

I've told you, you are annoying. You spurt the exact same crap all over every board you go to, and you attack anyone and everyone who doesn't agree with you. For someone who is your age, you sure are immature.

 

 

Hahahaha.. that I do.. Logic, my friends, logic. I will be the first to say I'm wrong... hypocrisy and anger? Grab the aspirin... Hahahahahaha

 

If you are so good about admitting that you're wrong, or admitting defeat... then why don't you shut up and stop embarrassing yourself? You sir are the pot, calling the kettle black.

 

 

See, the difference is eddo, I don't claim you are what I am, spaz on you, and try to gather a posse and punish you with bannings, lies, and slander on sites where you cannot respond to me.

 

Everything I've said you are is what you told me you were, by accusing me of things that had never crossed my mind. And then you relentlessly want to punish me on top of it to this f cking day, hence, your quick entrance into this post today, describing yourself, and claiming it's me, once again . It's beyond sick and 20 years was enough. Get it?

 

I know you don't...

 

this isn't about you and eddo... I've seen him on a few sites, a bunch of times, attempt to drop this vendetta with you. What do you do, you just keep on keeping on. You attack him and make underhanded comments. Drop it. What happened, happened. Move on.

[wez]

It's filler. A response to the garbage you posted.

 

 

 

You attack everyone you disagree with.

 

 

 

I know, sad but true.

 

 

 

Oh brother, I'm not concerned with you. I just wanted to point out to you that you are annoying and lack any real debating skills, and I always try to argue without resorting to name calling. It's you who is doing that.

I didnt say "You got banned, so you should be banned." I believe that my argument was that, You get banned from every site you go to because you don't debate, you attack. That is kinda funny for the first post... then it gets annoying. And you do it at EVERY site you go to... and you get banned from EVERY site you go to... Once again, have you ever stopped and thought "you know... EVERY site i go to bans me, I wonder if it could just be me?" probably not, that requires rational thought.

 

 

 

 

I don't have any idea wtf you're talking about. I don't 'validate' abuse from anyone... I am not abusive... if you think i am, prove it. Seems to me like you're the abuser. I'll bet your ex girlfriend thought so too.

 

 

 

I've told you, you are annoying. You spurt the exact same crap all over every board you go to, and you attack anyone and everyone who doesn't agree with you. For someone who is your age, you sure are immature.

 

 

 

 

If you are so good about admitting that you're wrong, or admitting defeat... then why don't you shut up and stop embarrassing yourself? You sir are the pot, calling the kettle black.

 

 

 

 

this isn't about you and eddo... I've seen him on a few sites, a bunch of times, attempt to drop this vendetta with you. What do you do, you just keep on keeping on. You attack him and make underhanded comments. Drop it. What happened, happened. Move on.

 

 

Go back to bed, junior.

[RegisteredAndEducated]

Go back to bed, junior.

 

great comeback boy... well thought out... awesome point... i'm in awe...

 

not

[timesjoke]

What do you expect?

 

Wez acts like he is on the playground arguing about how his dad can beat the other kids dad. He must be the most childish person I have ever seen on a forum, and I help moderate a gaming forum so I see very bad stuff sometimes.

 

 

Every time he posts I hear a child's voice saying "I know you are but what am I?"

[wez]

It's filler. A response to the garbage you posted.

 

Looked like garbage to me.

 

 

 

You attack everyone you disagree with.

 

Prove it.

 

You attack people for no reason at all.

 

 

 

I know, sad but true.

 

 

What is, angry people who seek and force validation for their anger? I agree

 

 

Oh brother, I'm not concerned with you. I just wanted to point out to you that you are annoying and lack any real debating skills, and I always try to argue without resorting to name calling. It's you who is doing that.

I didnt say "You got banned, so you should be banned." I believe that my argument was that, You get banned from every site you go to because you don't debate, you attack. That is kinda funny for the first post... then it gets annoying. And you do it at EVERY site you go to... and you get banned from EVERY site you go to... Once again, have you ever stopped and thought "you know... EVERY site i go to bans me, I wonder if it could just be me?" probably not, that requires rational thought.

 

 

Then don't focus on me, cover your eyes and move along, junior.

 

 

I don't have any idea wtf you're talking about. I don't 'validate' abuse from anyone... I am not abusive... if you think i am, prove it. Seems to me like you're the abuser. I'll bet your ex girlfriend thought so too.

 

 

Sure you do, you need to validate your anger like every other abusive, angry person. Certainly you're not responsible.. My ex girlfriend told me I was right about everything and she regrets losing me more than anything in her life and that she considers me her best friend. She knows she, and her family is abusive and has an anger problem, yet, she can still not move beyond it. They continue to abuse each other, their spouses and partners, and their children to this day even though they, like you, got out as children. Looks like one never "gets out" to me. I hope they all find peace.. it's sad.

 

 

 

I've told you, you are annoying. You spurt the exact same crap all over every board you go to, and you attack anyone and everyone who doesn't agree with you. For someone who is your age, you sure are immature.

 

 

 

Prove it. That's the great thing about the net.. no he said/she said.. There it is. Go retrieve some evidence to back up your accusations..

 

 

 

 

If you are so good about admitting that you're wrong, or admitting defeat... then why don't you shut up and stop embarrassing yourself? You sir are the pot, calling the kettle black.

 

 

Prove it, show me where I attacked you for disagreeing with me. I'll show you where you attacked me for no reason whilst derailing a topic and accusing me of being you, if I need to..

 

 

 

 

this isn't about you and eddo... I've seen him on a few sites, a bunch of times, attempt to drop this vendetta with you. What do you do, you just keep on keeping on. You attack him and make underhanded comments. Drop it. What happened, happened. Move on.

 

 

Did you happen to read eddo's first reply in this thread? Am I responsible? But I should have just "dropped it", right?

 

 

According to you, if you don't "just drop it" and respond to me again, you are once again a hypocrite.. You should really be more careful when you judge people....

 

 

 

Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment that you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me take the speck out of your eye," when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.