the debate over wez's debate skillz

[wez]

What do you expect?

 

Wez acts like he is on the playground arguing about how his dad can beat the other kids dad. He must be the most childish person I have ever seen on a forum, and I help moderate a gaming forum so I see very bad stuff sometimes.

 

 

Every time he posts I hear a child's voice saying "I know you are but what am I?"

 

 

Kids are pretty smart.. they can spot a hypocrite from a mile away and have a classic saying to prove it.. You should re-learn the skill, you may need it.

[RegisteredAndEducated]

Looked like garbage to me.

 

I agree, your posts do look like garbage. Thanks for admitting that. Takes a big man.

 

 

Prove it.

 

You attack people for no reason at all.

 

I have proven it, several times over. You assign nicknames, and continue to batter them with ridiculous statements. You call names, like some child who got pushed down and got a boo boo...

 

Now, you prove where I attacked you with no reason. I've given you a reason for why I called you out boy. You show me where i attacked you.

 

 

What is, angry people who seek and force validation for their anger? I agree

 

what's sad is that you believe your own garbage. I think they call that self-deception and narcissism... Where you start to believe your own lies and hype... hmm.

 

 

Then don't focus on me, cover your eyes and move along, junior.

 

I don't focus on you boy. I was hoping you would take a real look at yourself and not look in the mirror and shout out everyone else's name....

 

 

Sure you do, you need to validate your anger like every other abusive, angry person. Certainly you're not responsible.. My ex girlfriend told me I was right about everything and she regrets losing me more than anything in her life and that she considers me her best friend. She knows she, and her family is abusive and has an anger problem, yet, she can still not move beyond it. They continue to abuse each other, their spouses and partners, and their children to this day even though they, like you, got out as children. Looks like one never "gets out" to me. I hope they all find peace.. it's sad.

 

No, I don't need to validate anything boy. Yeah, I'm sure you ex said anything positive to you... Right... I'm sure you're her 'best friend' too... yeah. Cause that's what abusive people do... (/sarcasm) nice try.

 

 

Prove it. That's the great thing about the net.. no he said/she said.. There it is. Go retrieve some evidence to back up your accusations..

 

go and look at EVERY single post you've made since you found the net. Now, I would venture to guess that... 7 out of every 10, were the same immature, crap spewing, garbage that we're talking about here... I'll let you do the digging... You're a big boy.

 

 

Prove it, show me where I attacked you for disagreeing with me. I'll show you where you attacked me for no reason whilst derailing a topic and accusing me of being you, if I need to..

 

I've certainly never accused you of being me... I would never make that mistake. It's you who has been screaming out hypocrite at everybody...

 

I'll just put this here again... "go and look at EVERY single post you've made since you found the net. Now, I would venture to guess that... 7 out of every 10, were the same immature, crap spewing, garbage that we're talking about here... I'll let you do the digging... You're a big boy."

 

 

Did you happen to read eddo's first reply in this thread? Am I responsible? But I should have just "dropped it", right?

 

Yes, you are responsible. You should drop things when you are wrong. And you are wrong.

 

 

According to you, if you don't "just drop it" and respond to me again, you are once again a hypocrite.. You should really be more careful when you judge people....

 

You didn't read what I said.. "Just drop it" is when you are wrong. Admit your faults and drop it.

 

I don't judge. "let ye who is without sin, cast the first stone."

 

Wont be me boy. I have my sins.

[timesjoke]

Besides, he can't even figure out how to preview his posts so until he can at least get that straight, he will never be good at debating.

[wez]

I agree, your posts do look like garbage. Thanks for admitting that. Takes a big man.

 

 

Yada, Yada, Yada...

 

 

 

 

I have proven it, several times over. You assign nicknames, and continue to batter them with ridiculous statements. You call names, like some child who got pushed down and got a boo boo...

 

Now, you prove where I attacked you with no reason. I've given you a reason for why I called you out boy. You show me where i attacked you.

 

Yesterday on the censorship post, then, this post.

 

 

 

 

what's sad is that you believe your own garbage. I think they call that self-deception and narcissism... Where you start to believe your own lies and hype... hmm.

 

 

You don't believe your own garbage? That's good... I believe in my beliefs..

 

 

 

 

I don't focus on you boy. I was hoping you would take a real look at yourself and not look in the mirror and shout out everyone else's name....

 

Hahahaha... could of fooled me.. What's your point? You don't focus on me, yet you were hoping I would take a real look at myself?

 

Contradicting, angry people are funny..

 

 

 

No, I don't need to validate anything boy. Yeah, I'm sure you ex said anything positive to you... Right... I'm sure you're her 'best friend' too... yeah. Cause that's what abusive people do... (/sarcasm) nice try.

 

 

Sure you do.. what do you all think?

 

I've always been the best friend I could be to anyone.

 

 

 

 

go and look at EVERY single post you've made since you found the net. Now, I would venture to guess that... 7 out of every 10, were the same immature, crap spewing, garbage that we're talking about here... I'll let you do the digging... You're a big boy.

 

I don't need to, I wrote it and have a memory.. you're the one with the problem.. Go retrieve it yourself.

 

 

 

 

I've certainly never accused you of being me... I would never make that mistake. It's you who has been screaming out hypocrite at everybody...

 

Did you derail a post and personalloy attack me as you were accussing me of it as you typed it? A hypocrite can never see clearly.. Log in the eye and all..

 

I'll just put this here again... "go and look at EVERY single post you've made since you found the net. Now, I would venture to guess that... 7 out of every 10, were the same immature, crap spewing, garbage that we're talking about here... I'll let you do the digging... You're a big boy."

 

Go get your proof to make the case you've been trying to make.

 

 

 

 

Yes, you are responsible. You should drop things when you are wrong. And you are wrong.

 

Wrong about what, exactly?

 

 

 

 

You didn't read what I said.. "Just drop it" is when you are wrong. Admit your faults and drop it.

 

Take your own advice.

 

I don't judge. "let ye who is without sin, cast the first stone."

 

Wont be me boy. I have my sins.

 

Really? What did you do for the last 2 days?

[RegisteredAndEducated]

Yada, Yada, Yada...

 

Is there an echo in here? Are you a parrot? Grow up.

 

 

 

 

Yesterday on the censorship post, then, this post.

 

I never attacked you. I simply pointed out some facts to you. And you completely skipped the whole first part of that particular section... How about this.

 

I have proven it, several times over. You assign nicknames, and continue to batter them with ridiculous statements. You call names, like some child who got pushed down and got a boo boo...

 

There's what I was pointing out. boy

 

 

 

You don't believe your own garbage? That's good... I believe in my beliefs..

 

There's a difference. I actually do this thing called RESEARCH. It's the newest craze. It's where people find facts to back up their statements. I know it may be a concept that you find difficult to catch on to... but please try.

 

 

Hahahaha... could of fooled me.. What's your point? You don't focus on me, yet you were hoping I would take a real look at myself?

 

Contradicting, angry people are funny..

 

how was that contradictory? Should I define contradict for you? I think I will.

contradict

 

Main Entry:

con?tra?dict Listen to the pronunciation of contradict

Pronunciation:

\ˌk?n-trə-ˈdikt\

Function:

transitive verb

Etymology:

Latin contradictus, past participle of contradicere, from contra- + dicere to say, speak — more at diction

Date:

1582

 

1 : to assert the contrary of : take issue with <contradict a rumor> 2 : to imply the opposite or a denial of <your actions contradict your words>

 

from Definition of contradict - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

 

I said that i wasnt focused on you. I was hoping that you would focus on yourself. Did that clear it up any?

 

Sure you do.. what do you all think?

 

I've always been the best friend I could be to anyone.

 

Haha, I see you need to validate yourself with everyone on this board, ey boy? How sad.

 

I'll never take you at your word on that one kid. Never gonna happen.

 

 

 

I don't need to, I wrote it and have a memory.. you're the one with the problem.. Go retrieve it yourself.

 

An apparently warped memory... You know what... read your post just above this one for example...

 

 

 

 

Did you derail a post and personalloy attack me as you were accussing me of it as you typed it? A hypocrite can never see clearly.. Log in the eye and all..

 

I did not. And I'm glad you see your problem... Now, remove the log from your eye.

 

 

Go get your proof to make the case you've been trying to make.

 

Read above.

 

 

 

 

Wrong about what, exactly?

 

Stop skipping parts.... The entire quote was

 

Yes, you are responsible. You should drop things when you are wrong. And you are wrong.

 

My reply to you was "Yes, you are responsible." The statement "You should drop things when you are wrong. And you are wrong." was a general statement. You know... It means in most situations... Get it boy?

 

 

 

 

Take your own advice.

 

Once again you didn't read... There's this little thing called context...

 

Read the quote again...

 

You didn't read what I said.. "Just drop it" is when you are wrong. Admit your faults and drop it.

 

read it again and again, till you get my context. till you get the point. don't go on gut reaction... read it, analyze it, research it... then respond.

 

 

Really? What did you do for the last 2 days?

 

Not attack... apparently I wasted a sh t pile of time though... You haven't learned a damn thing. You refuse to hear what anybody else says. You stand there like a kid, with his fingers in his ears and his eyes jammed shut, screaming at the top of his lungs.

[wez]

Done playing the game with you to, boy, you decided the start time.. I decide when I stop.. Please carry on.. If you learned nothing today, you should look around again. Figure that out at your age, the sky is the limit. Peace, bro MAN.

[RegisteredAndEducated]

Done playing the game with you to, boy, you decided the start time.. I decide when I stop.. Please carry on.. If you learned nothing today, you should look around again. Figure that out at your age, the sky is the limit. Peace, bro MAN.

 

I'll take that as a dignified concession, and won't bring it up again, if you'll promise to reflect on what I've said to you. I walk around with my eyes wide open. I hope that you can learn to stop running around blind.

[Jhony5]

Confucius say ; "Moving one's lips does not improve ones hearing".

[Guest Unregistered]

You're a ridiculous internet troll that gets a little chubby when he imagines he's made some insignificant point with anonymous people over the internet. For your own sake, I hope you have a large penis or some other redeeming quality because, frankly, if this is the epitome of your superiority over others I see a sad, lonely future for you.

[wez]

You're a ridiculous internet troll that gets a little chubby when he imagines he's made some insignificant point with anonymous people over the internet. For your own sake, I hope you have a large penis or some other redeeming quality because, frankly, if this is the epitome of your superiority over others I see a sad, lonely future for you.

 

Do I know you? What do you desire of me?

 

You know, ridiculous anonymous person who gets a little chubby trolling on the internet who imagines he made some insignificant point, life wasn't always so sad and lonely. I had more friends than anyone I knew growing up. Life became sad and lonely when I became an adult and refused to trade my innocence and free will for a couple bucks and a few drinking buddies. If that's the price I pay, so be it...

 

You don't need to worry about my penis, it's just fine.

 

I don't want "superiority" over anyone, I'm a handful, I got enough to worry about without making myself responsible for anyone else to use as a scapegoat whom I can claim is me and punish without even knowing it. Plus, it's an illusion.

 

Is your name "power"?

[timesjoke]

Talk about cutting Wez close to the bone, lol.

 

Face it dude, your every word is clearly defining you as unreasonable and juvinile, and is the most likely cause you have so much trouble on every forum you go to.

 

That is why you cannot make a post and say what you want to say, you must go back time and time again to edit, refine, add things you just thought of. Your posting on emotion, not a clear mind.

 

 

 

Do something for me, write a post but wait a few minutes before you post it, walk away and get a drink or something and come back, preview it and then consider posting it, but take a couple minutes to consider your posts before you post them, I would venture to guess your posting "quality" will increase considerably.

[wez]

Talk about cutting Wez close to the bone, lol.

 

Face it dude, your every word is clearly defining you as unreasonable and juvinile, and is the most likely cause you have so much trouble on every forum you go to.

 

That is why you cannot make a post and say what you want to say, you must go back time and time again to edit, refine, add things you just thought of. Your posting on emotion, not a clear mind.

 

 

 

Do something for me, write a post but wait a few minutes before you post it, walk away and get a drink or something and come back, preview it and then consider posting it, but take a couple minutes to consider your posts before you post them, I would venture to guess your posting "quality" will increase considerably.

 

 

 

Hey TJ, I was thinking.. You know how you're always saying we need to protect the weak? Yes?

 

 

What if people such as yourself stopped proving to them that they're weak through anger, intimidation and hypocrisy and need any "protection" from those who they need protecting from? It's called extortion, check it out...

[wez]

Are your emotions worthless to you? Abusive families suppress them until anger is the only one standing. Imagine not letting your child understand and express their emotions. Why do we have them for if not to use and understand them?

 

 

 

Sad. I love my emotions. All of them. They tell me everything I need to know. There are no "bad' emotions. What a waste not to use your gifts.

 

 

You are what you hate and that is why you hate it. ~ wez

[timesjoke]

Hey TJ, I was thinking.. You know how you're always saying we need to protect the weak? Yes?

 

I have said the government has a responsibility to a certain extent to protect the weak, but I don't say things like that very often as you are implying.

 

 

What if people such as yourself stopped proving to them that they're weak through anger, intimidation and hypocrisy and need any "protection" from those who they need protecting from? It's called extortion, check it out...

 

 

The part you seem most bothered by is the first part.

 

Yes, you are proven to be wrong all the time but I fail to see why pointing out your errors is somehow bad. Should I just ignore your many lies just to make you feel better?

 

It is you who is calling people names if they don't agree with you.

 

It is you fabricating information to make your possitions "sound" better.

 

It is you who is bringing agruements from other forums to this forum.

 

It is you being unreasonable.

 

It is you who has been removed from many forums.

 

 

Do you see a pattern forming?

 

 

 

Are your emotions worthless to you? Abusive families suppress them until anger is the only one standing. Imagine not letting your child understand and express their emotions. Why do we have them for if not to use and understand them?

 

Emotions have a very good involvement in human life, but get in the way of impartial and intelligent discussions. Most emotions are based on feelings, not facts so if you are discussing from an emotional level, you will tend to be wrong most of the time.

 

Sad. I love my emotions. All of them. They tell me everything I need to know. There are no "bad' emotions. What a waste not to use your gifts.

 

As I just said, most emotion based "knowledge" is flawed, such as when an emotionally distressed man kills his wife for adultry, his decision is purely emotional and after his emotions calm down and reason sets in, he will understand what he knew to be right was wrong when outside of the emotional decision process.

 

You tend to be wrong over 90% of the time so clearly relying on emotional outbursts is not working too well for you.

 

 

You are what you hate and that is why you hate it. ~ wez

 

Being as it is you tossing insults, lies, and profanity all over the forum it must be you that is acting on hatred while the rest of us are simply trying to be honest with you, but I can see how facing such truth can be painful for you.

[wez]

I have said the government has a responsibility to a certain extent to protect the weak, but I don't say things like that very often as you are implying.

 

 

 

 

 

The part you seem most bothered by is the first part.

 

Yes, you are proven to be wrong all the time but I fail to see why pointing out your errors is somehow bad. Should I just ignore your many lies just to make you feel better?

 

It is you who is calling people names if they don't agree with you.

 

It is you fabricating information to make your possitions "sound" better.

 

It is you who is bringing agruements from other forums to this forum.

 

It is you being unreasonable.

 

It is you who has been removed from many forums.

 

 

Do you see a pattern forming?

 

 

 

 

 

Emotions have a very good involvement in human life, but get in the way of impartial and intelligent discussions. Most emotions are based on feelings, not facts so if you are discussing from an emotional level, you will tend to be wrong most of the time.

 

 

 

As I just said, most emotion based "knowledge" is flawed, such as when an emotionally distressed man kills his wife for adultry, his decision is purely emotional and after his emotions calm down and reason sets in, he will understand what he knew to be right was wrong when outside of the emotional decision process.

 

You tend to be wrong over 90% of the time so clearly relying on emotional outbursts is not working too well for you.

 

 

 

 

Being as it is you tossing insults, lies, and profanity all over the forum it must be you that is acting on hatred while the rest of us are simply trying to be honest with you, but I can see how facing such truth can be painful for you.

 

 

TJ, you are talking about yourself. Good day and good night.

[wez]

Did you have thoughts of doing that to your ex wife and explaining it away for losing and having no control over your emotions?

[timesjoke]

TJ, you are talking about yourself. Good day and good night.

 

Wow, what a comeback, did you get help from a 2nd grader or something?

 

 

I have clearly shown you to be the problem, the question now is will you continue to tell lies and be unreasonable or will be an adult and fix your problems?

 

 

I bet you will not take the adult route, but I hope you do.

[wez]

Wow, what a comeback, did you get help from a 2nd grader or something?

 

 

I have clearly shown you to be the problem, the question now is will you continue to tell lies and be unreasonable or will be an adult and fix your problems?

 

 

I bet you will not take the adult route, but I hope you do.

 

 

Why do you confess your guilt to me and fail to see it? I am not you.

[timesjoke]

Why do you confess your guilt to me and fail to see it? I am not you.

 

Where did I do that?

 

 

I am still waiting for you to admit to the lie you told about slodiers.

 

Once we get past that lie, we can move to the next.

 

 

 

Being as you get treated like this every where you go, maybe you need to look in the mirror for the cause.

[wez]

Where did I do that?

 

 

I am still waiting for you to admit to the lie you told about slodiers.

 

Once we get past that lie, we can move to the next.

 

 

 

Being as you get treated like this every where you go, maybe you need to look in the mirror for the cause.

 

Do you have an ex wife who you feel committed adultry?

 

Brainwashing : Systematic effort to destroy an individual's former loyalties and beliefs and to substitute loyalty to a new ideology or power.

 

 

Tell me about boot camp.

[timesjoke]

Brainwashing : Systematic effort to destroy an individual's former loyalties and beliefs and to substitute loyalty to a new ideology or power.

 

You know your right, you do try to brainwash people into believing what you say is true when in reality it is lie, but I believe most of us are too smart to be brainwashed by you.

 

 

 

 

Tell me about boot camp.

 

A great time spent getting into shape and learning basic skills for battlefield survival. A lot of time is spent on the rules of engement and weapon training. The next step after basic training is the soldier get sent to his next duty station to receive his advanced training in his chosen field.

 

By the time a soldier gets to a battlefield, he has had a wide range of exposures and is anything but a mindless zombie as you claim they are.

[wez]

You know your right, you do try to brainwash people into believing what you say is true when in reality it is lie, but I believe most of us are too smart to be brainwashed by you.

 

 

I don't try to brainwash young kids into killing other people.

 

 

 

 

 

 

A great time spent getting into shape and learning basic skills for battlefield survival. A lot of time is spent on the rules of engement and weapon training. The next step after basic training is the soldier get sent to his next duty station to receive his advanced training in his chosen field.

 

By the time a soldier gets to a battlefield, he has had a wide range of exposures and is anything but a mindless zombie as you claim they are.

 

 

Why do they scream in kids faces and use a punishment/reward system?

 

What would happen say, if I could not contain myself from laughing in the face of my drill sargent for getting pissed that I forgot to button my pocket?

 

Or say I felt bad and started crying for being berated for forgetting to button a pocket? What happens next?

[timesjoke]

I don't try to brainwash young kids into killing other people.

 

Neither does the military.

 

Again, you are 100% wrong and refuse to admit it.

 

 

 

 

Why do they scream in kids faces and use a punishment/reward system?

 

Sounds like the average marriage to me. If you keep the wife happy, you get to sleep in your bed, if not, she makes you sleep on the couch.

 

 

Everything is punnishment/reward in life. You work to get paid, without that "reward" you would not work.

 

 

 

What would happen say, if I could not contain myself from laughing in the face of my drill sargent for getting pissed that I forgot to button my pocket?

 

Less then if you were to laugh in the face of a judge to be sure.

 

 

Most likely some pushups, they love any excuse to help you exercise and become stronger.

 

 

 

 

 

Once again we see you dodge the fact you lied and now are desperately trying to cover that lie with crazy comments and more lies, why not just admit you lied?

 

Being honest is also another trait espoused by Jesus, your lies are not.

[wez]

Neither does the military.

 

Again, you are 100% wrong and refuse to admit it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sounds like the average marriage to me. If you keep the wife happy, you get to sleep in your bed, if not, she makes you sleep on the couch.

 

 

Everything is punnishment/reward in life. You work to get paid, without that "reward" you would not work.

 

 

 

 

 

Less then if you were to laugh in the face of a judge to be sure.

 

 

Most likely some pushups, they love any excuse to help you exercise and become stronger.

 

 

 

 

 

Once again we see you dodge the fact you lied and now are desperately trying to cover that lie with crazy comments and more lies, why not just admit you lied?

 

Being honest is also another trait espoused by Jesus, your lies are not.

 

 

Lied about what? Why do you lie in claiming I'm you and try to give me your guilt and punish me for it?

[timesjoke]

Lied about what? Why do you lie in claiming I'm you and try to give me your guilt and punish me for it?

 

 

You lie all the time, I am just pointing out the first lie I saw you tell.

 

You said all soldiers are brainwashed killers, and that is a lie, now admit it or stop saying you follow the teachings of Jesus because he did not teach us to be liers.