What are the legal and illegal ways to intentionally kill another human being?

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I have come to realize that you have trouble understanding when a question is answered, so I am only going to do this one last time.

 

Personal attacks will get you nowhere, I do not let that tactic divert me from the subject as those that use them intend, so please try to stay away from this kind of thing.

 

There is a huge, huge, gigantic, enormous difference in the defense of someone being beaten, raped, or murdered and someone's tv, dvd player, or stereo being stolen.

 

I respect your opinion but I dissagree, we all work to provide for our families, to live a decent life, to simply be free but as long as you feel it is okay to let robbers go free if there is a potential for harming them makes us more of a victim then these criminals could ever do.

 

 

It is safe to assume that the average person might risk safety of themselves or others to assist someONE being assaulted, raped or murdered. It is not safe to assume that someone should risk safety of themselves or others to assist someTHING from being stolen.

 

Again, that is you opinion and I see it otherwise.

 

Crimnals are being allowed to ruin everyone elses lives through their actions. Just think about how scared the neighbor kids are after a robbery. These ruthless and hardened criminals make everyone feel scared who are exposed to their actions and that level of driven fear is wrong.

 

I am not so much supporting the protection of things as I am supporting the removal of scum who would create such a environment where everyone in America is scared of being robbed, where our kids grow up in a society where people are defending criminals and ignoring the real harm they do every day.

 

Things don't get hurt physically or psychologically, nor can they die. Things can always be replaced. Your analogies of what ifs are ridiculous to say the least. I could easily counter with what if the guy you killed for stealing a cart of cans was going to stab the guy who was about to mug and murder me, a law abiding citizen, the next day but since you killed the can theif, I was murdered for my watch or tennis shoes. We can what if all day long. I could counter any what if you come up with but it is far fetched and ridiculous.

 

The problem is statistics agree with me.

 

A home invasion/robbery is not shop lifting, for a person to make that big of a step into crime he is seriously over the edge. Home invasions have a serious risk of confrontations, these confrontations end up with violence more often than not so every criminal wanting to do this kind of crime is very dangerious indeed.

 

A robber not busted will rob again, and is most likely committing many other crimes as well (drugs being the most common to robbery)

 

 

If you are so concerned with crime that effects monetary things like theft and insurance problems, you are definitely targeting those feelings to the wrong place if you are focusing on the street level theft. The biggest effects on economic cost redirection are medical and property claims that are fraudulent or employee theft at department stores and retailers, credit card theft, identity theft, not to mention the huge white collar crime. If you really want to effect the redirected costs to the average person, then you need to shoot those who commit white collar crimes. The street level person is a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of cost commited by these other criminals.

 

Real crime happens about 7 to 1 compared to fraud in case you were curious, so clearly I am concentrating on the biggest issue, too bad your only interested in personal attacks against me who does not believe what you believe.

 

I have said many times my issue with robbers is the mental state it takes to be that kind of criminal and how removing them is very good for society.

 

 

As for my STUFF, I assure you that I don't have that much stuff. I don't even carry rental insurance, as I am divorced and my money goes to support my exwife who doesn't work, goes to school, lives in a better place then I do and drives better cars (plural) then I do.

 

So come take the little crap I have. I doubt I'd miss it.

 

Don't think your alone there brother, I pay more out in exwife support than most Americans make in full time jobs.

 

I don't really mind paying to support my kids, I just hate it when she uses my child support to get cosmetic surgery, etc.....

 

My point was that these guys want to make a living through crime, they are not like you and me and do not think the way we do. You cannot stop criminals with pretty words, you must give them a good reason to not be a criminal, and people being allowed to shoot them is a darn good deterrant.