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You are a dumbass. :D

 

I'm talking to everyone and don't tell me not to mod. I had a discussion with wez and if you check he hasn't called anyone anything for weeks. You started the name calling here.

 

really? what is this??

Intelligent people think...

how ignorance must be bliss....

idiots have it so easy, it's not fair...

to have to think...

WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... :cool:

 

Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right...

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I'm talking to everyone and don't tell me not to mod. I had a discussion with wez and if you check he hasn't called anyone anything for weeks. You started the name calling here.

 

This has nothing to do with abortion. Why are you derailing the thread with this? I defended myself when he came at me with his stupid "what if" crap. I believe I can throw around a little 'dumbass' if I feel like it. especially when it's at one.

Intelligent people think...

how ignorance must be bliss....

idiots have it so easy, it's not fair...

to have to think...

WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... :cool:

 

Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right...

Posted
It looks like he was referring to you telling me not to mod, but I'm sure it's the end of it now. Right wez?

 

If you read, you would see that it was to my post where I said that I wouldn't be with a woman who decided to keep the product of a rape or that would have an abortion.

Intelligent people think...

how ignorance must be bliss....

idiots have it so easy, it's not fair...

to have to think...

WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... :cool:

 

Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right...

Posted
It looks like he was referring to you telling me not to mod, but I'm sure it's the end of it now. Right wez?

 

Absolutely... ;)

Posted
This has nothing to do with abortion. Why are you derailing the thread with this? I defended myself when he came at me with his stupid "what if" crap. I believe I can throw around a little 'dumbass' if I feel like it. especially when it's at one.

 

I'm not derailing anything. I'm trying to keep the topic civil and mature. I see nothing wrong with him asking questions of different situations when it comes to this. Just to test your convction to your beliefs. Many people say how they feel about things and then they find themselves in the same position and then it's ok for them to do different.

 

If you absolutely wouldn't be with someone who says they would have an abortion, that's great.

 

Many peoples views change as they grow up and mature and experience life. I know my moral and societal views are much different at 35 then they were at 20.

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I'm not derailing anything. I'm trying to keep the topic civil and mature. I see nothing wrong with him asking questions of different situations when it comes to this. Just to test your convction to your beliefs. Many people say how they feel about things and then they find themselves in the same position and then it's ok for them to do different.

 

If you absolutely wouldn't be with someone who says they would have an abortion, that's great.

 

Many peoples views change as they grow up and mature and experience life. I know my moral and societal views are much different at 35 then they were at 20.

 

 

Well said again...

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If you read, you would see that it was to my post where I said that I wouldn't be with a woman who decided to keep the product of a rape or that would have an abortion.

 

What makes you any better than wez, if you feel he calls names, if you aren't able to take the higher road, ignore them but rather call people names also?

Posted
I'm not derailing anything. I'm trying to keep the topic civil and mature. I see nothing wrong with him asking questions of different situations when it comes to this. Just to test your convction to your beliefs. Many people say how they feel about things and then they find themselves in the same position and then it's ok for them to do different.

 

If you absolutely wouldn't be with someone who says they would have an abortion, that's great.

 

Many peoples views change as they grow up and mature and experience life. I know my moral and societal views are much different at 35 then they were at 20.

 

Mine have changed too. I've become more entrenched and secure in my beliefs in the past 5 years than I ever was. Nice age crack. I'm not worried about what you think bro. I've experienced plenty of life for my age. ;)

 

 

What makes you any better than wez, if you feel he calls names, if you aren't able to take the higher road, ignore them but rather call people names also?

 

I did the ignore thing for a long time. When it's time to give it back, it's time to give it back. How about that?

Intelligent people think...

how ignorance must be bliss....

idiots have it so easy, it's not fair...

to have to think...

WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... :cool:

 

Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right...

Posted
I did the ignore thing for a long time. When it's time to give it back, it's time to give it back. How about that?

 

 

So you actually think I did something to you? How about that? Perhaps it's time to give back.. :D Meet me in the brotherman debate post...

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These are your opinions

No, those are facts! If you knew me you'd know that I try my best to stay away from posting opinions. There's a lot of nonsensical ignorance being posted in this thread, and just thought that it would be nice to sort the facts from the myths, don't you agree? ;)

 

which is just as valid as yours, is that we are human from conception

Yes, your "opinions' are, but your facts are way off base. That is because you are trying to 'rationalize' this subject emotionally and not logically or factually. Eventually, if you carry on this way you'll just get so frustrated that it will start to make you angry, as some other posters here have apparently become, instead of taking one step back and saying to yourself "Hmmm... maybe I should just rethink this topic". Quick question, and no I'm not trying to be funny... If a young child that you knew was to walk up to you and ask you "Are body parts like teeth, skin or nails considered as separate human beings" what would you say to them, and how would you explain the facts about it to them? I'm just trying to show you how illogical your previous response was, that's all. If you're afraid to honestly answer the question then I understand and that's OK too ;)

Posted
No, those are facts! If you knew me you'd know that I try my best to stay away from posting opinions. There's a lot of nonsensical ignorance being posted in this thread, and just thought that it would be nice to sort the facts from the myths, don't you agree? ;)

 

 

Yes, your "opinions' are, but your facts are way off base. That is because you are trying to 'rationalize' this subject emotionally and not logically or factually. Eventually, if you carry on this way you'll just get so frustrated that it will start to make you angry, as some other posters here have apparently become, instead of taking one step back and saying to yourself "Hmmm... maybe I should just rethink this topic". Quick question, and no I'm not trying to be funny... If a young child that you knew was to walk up to you and ask you "Are body parts like teeth, skin or nails considered as separate human beings" what would you say to them, and how would you explain the facts about it to them? I'm just trying to show you how illogical your previous response was, that's all. If you're afraid to honestly answer the question then I understand and that's OK too ;)

 

Well said.. and welcome to the site. :)

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No, those are facts! If you knew me you'd know that I try my best to stay away from posting opinions. There's a lot of nonsensical ignorance being posted in this thread, and just thought that it would be nice to sort the facts from the myths, don't you agree? ;)

 

There's alot of opinion just in this part... how can I take you seriously, when you start out lying?

 

 

Yes, your "opinions' are, but your facts are way off base. That is because you are trying to 'rationalize' this subject emotionally and not logically or factually.

 

You're putting your blinders on and using some kind of twisted, fuzzy logic. Let's step back and look at the subject like an intelligent person.

 

 

Eventually, if you carry on this way you'll just get so frustrated that it will start to make you angry, as some other posters here have apparently become, instead of taking one step back and saying to yourself "Hmmm... maybe I should just rethink this topic".

 

More opinion.

 

 

Quick question, and no I'm not trying to be funny... If a young child that you knew was to walk up to you and ask you "Are body parts like teeth, skin or nails considered as separate human beings" what would you say to them, and how would you explain the facts about it to them?

 

This isn't funny... and it's kind of a stupid question. First of all, a kid wouldn't think like that. They think of their hands as their hands and being a part of them. Hands and legs don't have, nor do they have the ability to think or have their own heartbeat. There are a couple of facts for ya. The same goes for skin, teeth, or nails. That's just a dumb argument. You want me to rip something else up for you?

 

 

I'm just trying to show you how illogical your previous response was, that's all. If you're afraid to honestly answer the question then I understand and that's OK too ;)

 

Why would anyone be afraid to answer a stupid question? How did you show how he was illogical? I must be missing something? A human baby/embryo and a hand are two different thing...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well said.. and welcome to the site. :)

 

What was well said about that? Do you even read posts before you reply? Stop licking ass.

Intelligent people think...

how ignorance must be bliss....

idiots have it so easy, it's not fair...

to have to think...

WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... :cool:

 

Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right...

Posted
No, those are facts! If you knew me you'd know that I try my best to stay away from posting opinions. There's a lot of nonsensical ignorance being posted in this thread, and just thought that it would be nice to sort the facts from the myths, don't you agree? ;)

 

 

Yes, your "opinions' are, but your facts are way off base. That is because you are trying to 'rationalize' this subject emotionally and not logically or factually. Eventually, if you carry on this way you'll just get so frustrated that it will start to make you angry, as some other posters here have apparently become, instead of taking one step back and saying to yourself "Hmmm... maybe I should just rethink this topic". Quick question, and no I'm not trying to be funny... If a young child that you knew was to walk up to you and ask you "Are body parts like teeth, skin or nails considered as separate human beings" what would you say to them, and how would you explain the facts about it to them? I'm just trying to show you how illogical your previous response was, that's all. If you're afraid to honestly answer the question then I understand and that's OK too ;)

 

 

What was all that about? what dose telling a child about body parts have to do with killing a human being? Wheter it's born or not?

 

 

FACT: Abortion kills!

"You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller

 

NEVER FORGOTTEN

Posted
What was all that about? what dose telling a child about body parts have to do with killing a human being? Wheter it's born or not?

 

 

FACT: Abortion kills!

 

At least I'm not the only one who sees the idiocy of this comment.

Intelligent people think...

how ignorance must be bliss....

idiots have it so easy, it's not fair...

to have to think...

WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... :cool:

 

Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right...

Posted
What was well said about that? Do you even read posts before you reply? Stop licking ass.

 

 

Go back to bed before I make you cry, junior..

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Go back to bed before I make you cry, junior..

 

Please try. I'll rip you, your ideas, and your poor wittle heart to shreds boy.

Intelligent people think...

how ignorance must be bliss....

idiots have it so easy, it's not fair...

to have to think...

WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... :cool:

 

Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right...

Posted
What if you were having a black baby, or a white baby if you're black, with full blown down syndrome as the love child of a brutal rape that nearly killed your wife?

 

Why should the race of the baby matter? Is it ok to kill black babies, but not white ones? I really don't understand what you are getting at there.

and are you implying that downs syndrome babies aren't worth loving or a given chance at life?

 

My stance- God created the life. Some loser may have forced her to have sex, but God made the baby, and as such- it deserves to live.

 

Keeping it, and raising it is an option, as is adoption. as Brotehrman said- both are better than killing a defenseless baby.

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Posted
Please try. I'll rip you, your ideas, and your poor wittle heart to shreds boy.

 

 

Hahahahaha.. yeah, you've done a great job, tough guy.

Posted
Mine have changed too. I've become more entrenched and secure in my beliefs in the past 5 years than I ever was. Nice age crack. I'm not worried about what you think bro. I've experienced plenty of life for my age. ;)

 

No age crack intended. Chances are that your beliefs will change some over the next, 10, 20, 30, 40 years. It's just natural. No matter how much you have experience until now, you will spend the rest of your life experienceing new things.

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No age crack intended. Chances are that your beliefs will change some over the next, 10, 20, 30, 40 years. It's just natural. No matter how much you have experience until now, you will spend the rest of your life experienceing new things.

 

you're quite right I know. I don't want this to turn into a, "I'm more mature/experienced than you" argument or whatever. I do know what I believe, and I know what I'll believe about some thing 100 years down the road. Life will change some of that, but not everything. Abortion is one of those things. That's just how it is.

Intelligent people think...

how ignorance must be bliss....

idiots have it so easy, it's not fair...

to have to think...

WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... :cool:

 

Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right...

Posted
What was all that about? what dose telling a child about body parts have to do with killing a human being? Wheter it's born or not?

 

 

FACT: Abortion kills!

 

I believe that his argument is that an embryo at conception is but one living cell, just like a skin cell. If a one cell embryo is life, why wouldn't one skin cell be life?

Posted
I believe that his argument is that an embryo at conception is but one living cell, just like a skin cell. If a one cell embryo is life, why wouldn't one skin cell be life?

 

It is a part of life. A baby is, and has the opportunity to be it's own seperate life. Skin does not. Therein lies the difference.

Intelligent people think...

how ignorance must be bliss....

idiots have it so easy, it's not fair...

to have to think...

WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... :cool:

 

Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right...

Posted
you're quite right I know. I don't want this to turn into a, "I'm more mature/experienced than you" argument or whatever. I do know what I believe, and I know what I'll believe about some thing 100 years down the road. Life will change some of that, but not everything. Abortion is one of those things. That's just how it is.

 

To be honest, I don't even know how old you are. I was just making a little change on a saying I often say when people judge someone who makes life mistakes during thier early adulthood. I made stupid mistakes when I was just out of high school, most of my friends growing up ended up in one form of institution or another. I was fortunate that I never got caught doing some things and never got addicted to other things.

 

The saying I often repeat when I hear someone say that someone, who is 18 - 25 year old range (sometimes even older or younger) is that, "I would hate for someone to judge me now, for the person I was at 20".

Posted
It is a part of life. A baby is, and has the opportunity to be it's own seperate life. Skin does not. Therein lies the difference.

 

Now that they can make stem cells from skin cells. I predict a viable clone is just around the corner.

 

I agree with you that a skin cell is not life, but I also don't think a single cell embryo is a person either. I view it as nothing but a tumor/parasite until it is able sustain itself outside the womb.

 

That is my opinion, if it isn't yours, great. I have no intention of changing your belief.

 

With all that said. I still personally don't believe that abortion should be legal. For any reason.

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