hugo Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 The 'Jenin Massacre' hoax Back to the Moslem Terrorist's Page TownHall.com Columnists Over 60 conservative columnists at your fingertips NEW COLUMNS TODAY FROM: Novak, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Charles Krauthammer (archive) May 3, 2002 ``Jenin Camp Is a Scene of Devastation But Yields No Evidence of a Massacre.'' -- Headline, Front Page, Washington Post, April 16 ``There is simply no evidence of a massacre.'' --Peter Bouckaert, senior researcher, Human Rights Watch, Jenin. Jerusalem Post, April 28 ``Holley told Agence France-Presse that he did not see `any evidence of a massacre. The Israeli army was fighting against some desperate (Palestinian) fighters here.''' -- Agence France-Presse, quoting Maj. David Holley, British military adviser to Amnesty International, April 28 WASHINGTON--A massacre is the deliberate mass murder of the defenseless. The ``Jenin massacre'' is more than a fiction. It is a hoax. ``Palestinian Authority allegations,'' reported the Boston Globe (April 29), ``... appear to be crumbling under the weight of eyewitness accounts from Palestinian fighters who participated in the battle and camp residents who remained in their homes until the final hours of the fighting. ... All said they were allowed to surrender or evacuate.'' And yet for weeks the world has been seized with the question of the ``Jenin massacre.'' The U.N. Security Council called emergency meetings. The secretary- general appointed a special investigating committee (now disbanded). The European press published the most lurid allegations. To say nothing, of course, of al-Jazeera TV. All this for a phantom massacre. Yet this same Middle East conflict yields no shortage of real massacres: --April 27: Adora, Palestinian gunmen enter residential quarters shooting everyone, including a 5-year-old girl shot through the head in her bed; --April 12: Jerusalem, suicide bombing at a bus stop, 6 murdered; --April 10: Yagor, suicide bombing on a bus, 8 murdered; --March 31: Haifa, suicide bombing in a restaurant, 15 murdered; --March 28: Eilon Moreh, shooting attack, 4 murdered; --March 27: Netanya, suicide bombing at a Passover seder, 28 murdered. These are massacres--actual, recent massacres. Massacres for which the evidence is hard. Massacres for which the perpetrators (BEG ITAL)claimed credit. Where was the Security Council? Where was the Kofi Annan commission? Where was the world? The U.N.'s excuse will be that these murders were perpetrated not by states, but by groups. But this is nonsense. The Palestinian Authority is a recognized government. The links of its top leadership to these murders is precisely the kind of question that warrants investigation. Yet, the very idea that the U.N. would investigate Palestinian massacres is absurd. The fact that such an undertaking is unimaginable is what has made the last several months so deeply, despairingly troubling. The despair comes from the bewilderment of living in a world of monstrous moral inversion. Take Jenin. What was the real story? That hand-to-hand, door-to-door combat, in an intensely built-up shantytown, among dozens of houses booby-trapped by Palestinian fighters, should have yielded somewhere between seven and 21 scattered civilian casualties is nothing less than astonishing. It testifies to the extraordinary scrupulousness of the Israeli army, which lost 23 soldiers in the battle, precisely because it did not want to cause the civilian casualties that come with aerial bombardment, as has happened everywhere from Grozny to Kabul. And yet Israel was investigated precisely for defending itself against massacres that warrant no investigation. Palestinian apologists wave away this double standard with the magic mantra of ``occupation.'' More nonsense. Twenty-one months ago, Israel offered a total end to the occupation, ceding 100 percent of Gaza and 97 percent of the West Bank to the first Palestinian state ever. The Palestinians turned that down and took up the suicide bomb. By the Orwellian logic of today, the Palestinians are justified in perpetrating one massacre after another to end an occupation that Israel offered to remove almost two years ago. For the ``international community,'' as embodied by the United Nations, such inverted moral logic is the norm. This is what it must have been like living in the false consciousness of Soviet communism, where everyone had to publicly and constantly pretend to believe the official lies, all the while knowing they were lies. This is what it must have been like living in the 1930s, as the necessities of appeasement created a gradual inversion of right and wrong--the Czechs, for example, pilloried by official opinion in Britain and France for selfishly standing in the way of peace at Munich. Churchill's great gift to civilization was not just that he rallied good against evil, but that he pierced a suffocating fog of self-deception by speaking truth to lies. Where is the Churchill of today, the official of (BEG ITAL)any government, prepared to tell the U.N. that its frantic hunt for a phantom massacre (BEG ITAL)by Jews--while ignoring massacre after massacre (BEG ITAL)of Jews--is grotesque and perverse? Read Charles Krauthammer's biography Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
Hamza123 Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 They are all headlines from western news papers... Explain this hugo... http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2663394274574391248&q=jenin http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=840020255576418273&q=jenin For the sake of history within this topic. I am going to use a british news agency. ------------- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1937048.stm Jenin 'massacre evidence growing' A British forensic expert who has gained access to the West Bank city of Jenin says evidence points to a massacre by Israeli forces. Prof Derrick Pounder, who is part of an Amnesty International team granted access to Jenin, said he has seen bodies lying in the streets and received eyewitness accounts of civilian deaths. The Dundee University expert said the Amnesty investigation has only just begun but Palestinian claims of a massacre were gaining foundation as the team continued its analysis. Derrick Pounder: Evidence of a massacre He said: "The truth will come out, as it has come out in Bosnia and Kosovo, as it has in other places where we've had these kinds of allegations. "I must say that the evidence before us at the moment doesn't lead us to believe that the allegations are anything other than truthful and that therefore there are large numbers of civilian dead underneath these bulldozed and bombed ruins that we see." The professor said recovering the bodies would be difficult because many buildings collapsed during bombardment. He said: "We know there are families who were there and killed and buried. "We were on the ruins yesterday and two elderly men came forward, each of them pointed to where their houses had been and one of them told us that 10 members of his family were buried under the rubble." 'Beyond belief' He said post mortems on two bodies had "given cause for suspicion" and there was "extensive damage" to Jenin. An area of the town the size of several football pitches has been flattened. Prof Pounder was speaking as Israeli forces began to pull out of Jenin and the town of Nablus. A United Nations special envoy described the the devastation as "horrific beyond belief". Terje Roed-Larsen, who visited the Jenin refugee camp on Thursday, criticised Israel for not allowing rescue teams in after the battle with Palestinian gunmen. Israeli officials reversed a ban on the Amnesty team entering the Jenin refugee camp and government hospital on Wednesday. Amnesty had considered legal action against the Israeli Government over the ban. Any time we claim 9/11 was a hoax, you flip. You are now claiming a massacre that really happened to be hoax. I am not going to cuss you out. I hope you will hold the same respect for me. P.S., I will be creating a new topic on the whole palestinian/israeli issue. I would be happy to debate with you politley. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
hugo Posted July 22, 2006 Author Posted July 22, 2006 The truth has come out since your outdated article There was no massacre at Jenin. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
Hamza123 Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 The truth has come out since your outdated article There was no massacre at Jenin. It seems as though killing Arab Civilians is not a Massacre... Well, no doubt. We are now watching a true Massacre unfold. Not a civil war. Lebanese are Lebanese. Not Christian, Muslims, Druze, or Jews... Lebanese refuse to die needlessly, and at the hands of the murderous Israeli army. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Kryptonite Man Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Hamza, those "articles" were done by liberal idiots. DON'T buy into the LIES of the liberal leftist peta'Q! Quote I'm a liberal's worst nightmare. A black man with a brain!
Hamza123 Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Well, articles or not, people are being killed and they simply don't need to be, and don't have to die. It's a matter of choice for the Israelis weather or not to kill the civilians a lot of the times... The world will see the horrors of what is going on KM! This American-Lebanese films a bombing!! It's amazing quality too!! It's not graphic. But my stomach started to kinda drop when I watched it. It's only a minute long. http://youtube.com/watch?v=4Lv0iwbRFEQ Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Kryptonite Man Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 Trust me Hamza, the world IS seeing the violence by these shitass terrorists. Hezbollah are scum! Quote I'm a liberal's worst nightmare. A black man with a brain!
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 Anybody notice a pattern with Ham and AIG... any and all reports of wrong doing by muslims are "propoganda" and cannot be trusted, while any reports of wrong doing against muslims is "accurate" and solid journalism. ... regardless of the source. Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
hugo Posted July 23, 2006 Author Posted July 23, 2006 Hamza supports Hezbollah's murders of innocent Israelis. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 Hamza supports Hezbollah's murders of innocent Israelis. Ham is a very typical islamic appologist... spinning lies to further his faith... justifying it's worthiness by the numbers of people tricked into it's vile lunacy. Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
Hamza123 Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 Hamza supports Hezbollah's murders of innocent Israelis. Only according to you... If I am such a supporter of Hezbollah that would make you something like a praiser of the Israelis. Which have killed more innocent people than Hezbollah for the record. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Hamza123 Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 Ham is a very typical islamic appologist... spinning lies to further his faith... justifying it's worthiness by the numbers of people tricked into it's vile lunacy. Spin lies? Don't need to! People are embracing the true and beautiful meaning and writing of the Qur'an at record speeds. Oh, and the Qur'an isn't the one spinning lies. Keep in mind a word of it hasn't changed for 1400 years now. You're spinning lies to further YOUR ideology. Justifying it's killing of innocent people. Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 Spin lies? Don't need to! People are embracing the true and beautiful meaning and writing of the Qur'an at record speeds. Oh, and the Qur'an isn't the one spinning lies. Keep in mind a word of it hasn't changed for 1400 years now. You're spinning lies to further YOUR ideology. Justifying it's killing of innocent people. Like I said, you justify its worthiness by its numbers... Like justifying cancer by the number of mutated cells. Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth.
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