timesjoke Posted December 13, 2007 Posted December 13, 2007 According to this story: FOXNews.com - Wal-Mart Yanks Pink 'Credit Card' Panties Off Racks - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News Due to consumer pressure, a line of panities for young girls was removed from sale at Wal-Mart. The reason given was they gave the wrong message to young girls but I wonder, was it the wrong message or just that some people do not want to admit the truth? You see, I have always seen prostitution as the same as dating or marriage. The only differance is the man will pay many times less to have a hooker. If I take a woman out to dinner and dancing, I will spend between 2 to 5 hundred dollars, if I "get lucky" at the end of the night, how is she any different than any call girl? I think many people get upset at things like this because they know it is the truth of how society is changing. Quote
snafu Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 LMAO.. No I get the Sam Kinison message. Kind of a sexest message. You know women rule cause "They got the p y man! Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
Jhony5 Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Errrrmmm....? I don't get it? They say "Who needs credit cards" on the front and "When you have Santa" on the back. WTF? What does this have to do with prostitution or anything even remotely close to that? Again I don't get it? Why is this bad? Questionmark? Quote i am sofa king we todd did.
snafu Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Errrrmmm....? I don't get it? They say "Who needs credit cards" on the front and "When you have Santa" on the back. WTF? What does this have to do with prostitution or anything even remotely close to that? Again I don't get it? Why is this bad? Questionmark? J5 I just explained it. They don't need a credit card cause they can get what they want with whats inside the panties. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
Old Salt Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 They were targeted at young girls, girls which are far younger than any that the people posting on this thread would "date" (I hope). I didn't see anything about "prostitution" in the article, but the message seems to be "if you put out, you get presents". Is there anything wrong with allowing young girls to remain innocent for a while? Quote
snafu Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 I agree with you but I don?t believe they were targeted toward young girls. They know that younger kids like to mimic older kids and so smaller sizes where made too. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
timesjoke Posted December 17, 2007 Author Posted December 17, 2007 I agree with you but I don?t believe they were targeted toward young girls. They know that younger kids like to mimic older kids and so smaller sizes where made too. The message was on panties, who is intended to read the message? Don't be fooled, they were saying that little girls can get what they want without credit cards and being as Santa is not real, who is to play Santa for the girl to use as a crdit card? Clearly modern times has admitted to the way things have turned into a woman having an ATM machine between her legs when we have it being written on little girls panties. Quote
Old Salt Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 I agree with you but I don?t believe they were targeted toward young girls. They know that younger kids like to mimic older kids and so smaller sizes where made too.I noticed you used the word "kids", not young adults. I have absolutely nothing against these being targeted at young adults. The article said that the target was "adolescent teens". Quote
Jhony5 Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 The message was on panties, who is intended to read the message? Don't be fooled, they were saying that little girls can get what they want without credit cards and being as Santa is not real, who is to play Santa for the girl to use as a credit card? Clearly modern times has admitted to the way things have turned into a woman having an ATM machine between her legs when we have it being written on little girls panties. NO. I think this is bullsh t. The message isn't meant to be read by anyone but the wearer of the panties. I think you are reading to much into this. I also have my doubts that these are actually intended for children. I believe that is a fallacy. Children do not have credit cards. They should be more concerned with the 10 year olds wearing thongs. Something I have seen more than a few times. And that's saying alot when you can tell that a 10-13 year old is wearing a thong while shopping in Wal-Mart. As far as the small size, My girlfriend is a size 1 and often has to shop in the juniors section. Why are people offended? Don't let you child wear them. Period. Quote i am sofa king we todd did.
timesjoke Posted December 18, 2007 Author Posted December 18, 2007 NO. I think this is bullsh t. The message isn't meant to be read by anyone but the wearer of the panties. I think you are reading to much into this. I also have my doubts that these are actually intended for children. I believe that is a fallacy. Children do not have credit cards. The panties, which were sold in the juniors department, seemed to suggest that girls don't need money, they just need a sugar daddy ? in this case Santa Claus. It says right there they were in the juniors department, clearly targeting young girls. You cannot refute the message, they use Sants to get what they want, who is playing Santa for the little girls? They should be more concerned with the 10 year olds wearing thongs. Something I have seen more than a few times. And that's saying alot when you can tell that a 10-13 year old is wearing a thong while shopping in Wal-Mart. Dress is driven by peers and parents. Girls mimick their mothers most of the time and if their mother is wearing thongs, then the young girls will want to wear what they see their mother wearing. As far as the small size, My girlfriend is a size 1 and often has to shop in the juniors section. Why are people offended? Don't let you child wear them. Period. Size 1? I would be scared of breaking her, poor little thing. I prefer women, not little girls. The smallest I ever dated was a size 4 and that is only because she had big fake boobs, lol. Besides, when I buy stuff for my women I don't look like a child molester, imagine how you would look trying to find sexy undies at the little girls department, lol. Quote
Jhony5 Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 I prefer women, not little girls.Why? Besides, when I buy stuff for my women I don't look like a child molester, imagine how you would look trying to find sexy undies at the little girls department, lol. I went shopping for our anniversary and thought it'd be cool to get her a few thongs and a sexy bra. So I went to Wal-Mart and picked a few pairs out. I wanted to get an idea if they fit so I asked this 10 year old girl to hold them up to her body so I could see. And then after I got out of prison....... You cannot refute the message, they use Sants to get what they want, who is playing Santa for the little girls? The message I hear is "Who needs to buy stuff when Christmas is so near" or something to that effect. Maybe I'm just real laid back or stupid but I don't hear prostitution overtones or anything even remotely sexual in that message. Quote i am sofa king we todd did.
Old Salt Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 The message I hear is "Who needs to buy stuff when Christmas is so near" or something to that effect. Maybe I'm just real laid back or stupid but I don't hear prostitution overtones or anything even remotely sexual in that message.I doubt very much that you're stupid but, unfortunately, the double entendre is there - read it as you will. Quote
Feckless Wench Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 I absolutely hate to see sexy or provocative undies aimed at young kids. Sure they like to wear the same stuff as grown-ups but jeez, there has to be a limit! Kids should be allowed to remain KIDS! Quote Dementia is just a state of mind.
Guest sheik-yerbouti Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 You see, I have always seen prostitution as the same as dating or marriage. The only differance is the man will pay many times less to have a hooker. . Yes I see the argument. The most expensive one is certainly marriage. I know several guys who married and have since been ditched and fleeced. And to think I once envied them,as they sauntered by with a goddess on their arm. now I just feel sorry for them as they shamble by, bitching about their ex's, the almony/palimony/kids they cant see/ pensions and houses they have lost to their ex's. And my, how the goddesses have changed - Yuk.. My nest egg is just fine, and so is my house.And no, i'm certainly not seeking a wife. Well not in the West anyway. Quote
Jhony5 Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 I think people seem to be in a stupor by the fact that this message is written on underwear. If it was on a tee shirt, I doubt anyone would have noticed. The message itself is not sexual, not at all. If anything this message displays Americas lust for capitalism. I absolutely hate to see sexy or provocative undies aimed at young kids.These are "hipsters", or briefs. A very contemporary style. The message is supposed to be received as humorous. Also I assume the item, as well as the specific message, seems aimed as a gift item specifically for the holidays. Y'all motherf ckers got yer panties in a bunch. Quote i am sofa king we todd did.
timesjoke Posted December 19, 2007 Author Posted December 19, 2007 A state of mind does not form by snapping your fingers, it is a slow and deliberate process. By constantly bombarding our children with certain kinds of messages, we help to form their state of mind. Sure, these panties seem like a small thing but we need to pull back and look at the entire picture, not one brush stroke to see what is happening. Do we really want our little girls believing that they have an ATM machine between their legs at such a young age? Do we really want our little girls thinking they need to have a "santa" or sugar daddy to take care of them? Quote
snafu Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 I think people seem to be in a stupor by the fact that this message is written on underwear. If it was on a tee shirt, I doubt anyone would have noticed. The message itself is not sexual, not at all. If anything this message displays Americas lust for capitalism. These are "hipsters", or briefs. A very contemporary style. The message is supposed to be received as humorous. Also I assume the item, as well as the specific message, seems aimed as a gift item specifically for the holidays. Y'all motherf ckers got yer panties in a bunch. I got a pair of mantyhose from my mom on Christmas one year. The rest of the family had a hay day with that one. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
Jhony5 Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Do we really want our little girls believing that they have an ATM machine between their legs at such a young age?I really don't see how you can extrapolate sex from that message. Or how you think this harmless joke message equates to a vaginal Automatic Teller Machine. Underwear, even for, actually especially for children, often has funny or whimsical messages on them. Not meant to be read by the person servicing them sexually. It is a humorous Christmas joke. Thats all. Quote i am sofa king we todd did.
timesjoke Posted December 20, 2007 Author Posted December 20, 2007 I really don't see how you can extrapolate sex from that message. Or how you think this harmless joke message equates to a vaginal Automatic Teller Machine. Underwear, even for, actually especially for children, often has funny or whimsical messages on them. Not meant to be read by the person servicing them sexually. It is a humorous Christmas joke. Thats all. But it is a message to the child putting them on right? What are credit cards for in the eyes of a child? They don't know anything about the bills that follows later, all they see is ther parents using them to buy things, so to a child, credit cards are for getting the things you want. So, we tell the child that she does not need a way to buy the things she wants because she can get Santa to get those things, but we put that message on panties. Clearly there is more to a message than the actual words, there is also delivery to consider. If I had "kiss this" on my shirt, it would have one meaning, if I had the same thing on the seat of my pants, the same words would mean a completely different thing. All I am saying is there is a clear second meaning that can come from these things and I support the consumer right to complain and have stuff like this removed from the shelves. 1 Quote
Jhony5 Posted December 21, 2007 Posted December 21, 2007 But it is a message to the child putting them on right? What are credit cards for in the eyes of a child? They don't know anything about the bills that follows later, all they see is their parents using them to buy things, so to a child, credit cards are for getting the things you want. So, we tell the child that she does not need a way to buy the things she wants because she can get Santa to get those things, but we put that message on panties. Clearly there is more to a message than the actual words, there is also delivery to consider. If I had "kiss this" on my shirt, it would have one meaning, if I had the same thing on the seat of my pants, the same words would mean a completely different thing. All I am saying is there is a clear second meaning that can come from these things and I support the consumer right to complain and have stuff like this removed from the shelves. Well worded. The way you explain it, I can see the sexual nuances, however subtle. Quote i am sofa king we todd did.
atlantic Posted December 21, 2007 Posted December 21, 2007 But it is a message to the child putting them on right? What are credit cards for in the eyes of a child? They don't know anything about the bills that follows later, all they see is ther parents using them to buy things, so to a child, credit cards are for getting the things you want. So, we tell the child that she does not need a way to buy the things she wants because she can get Santa to get those things, but we put that message on panties. Clearly there is more to a message than the actual words, there is also delivery to consider. If I had "kiss this" on my shirt, it would have one meaning, if I had the same thing on the seat of my pants, the same words would mean a completely different thing. All I am saying is there is a clear second meaning that can come from these things and I support the consumer right to complain and have stuff like this removed from the shelves. Great Points TimesJoke! Quote Do the right thing!
Guest sheik-yerbouti Posted December 21, 2007 Posted December 21, 2007 Great Points TimesJoke! Perfect sense, and perfect delivery. Quote
hugo Posted December 22, 2007 Posted December 22, 2007 I think society started going downhill when teens and pre-teens started having their own money to spend. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
ImWithStupid Posted December 22, 2007 Posted December 22, 2007 This is just like all the Halloween costumes that were aimed at the "tween" aged girls this year. . . And several more like this. Sexy Tween Costumes These are in children girls sizes 12/14 and 14/16. Who, besides some white trash mom, like Brittany Spears, would send their 10 to 14 year old daughter out on Halloween like this. No hidden double entendre here. They might as well be in a French Maid outfit and working bachelor parties. This type of marketing is deplorable. . . . Quote
snafu Posted December 23, 2007 Posted December 23, 2007 I think society started going downhill when teens and pre-teens started having their own money to spend. ......... Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
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