ImWithStupid Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 Your not making any sense. First of all, based on topics discussed on this forum to date, I am clearly a conservative. your mostly a conservative with tiny liberal leanings, Brotherman is more conservative then I am, eddo is a conservative, anna is a liberal, wez is a liberal. This is based on observations on topics covered in my opinion. Now we are not allowed to have opinions? It seems to me you feel it is okay for Wez to call people things their not, but if I call them what they are, somehow I am wrong.............. Forgive me but I do not understand where your going. Either way, I am the only one who has been blasted by you to later find out your 100% wrong on your "assumption". Your a moderator, your not supposed to be flying off the handle like this. What if Anna didn't feel she was liberal, what if Brotherman didn't feel he was conservative? You made these opinions yourself. Does that mean they should go off the handle on you for "lableing" them? That is my point. Calling someone liberal or conservative is a far cry from saying someone doesn't know what they are talking about. If you aren't liberal or conservative say why. Telling somone they don't know their head from their a$$ is an insult. Can you see the difference?
timesjoke Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 What if Anna didn't feel she was liberal, what if Brotherman didn't feel he was conservative? You made these opinions yourself. Does that mean they should go off the handle on you for "lableing" them? That is my point. Calling someone liberal or conservative is a far cry from saying someone doesn't know what they are talking about. If you aren't liberal or conservative say why. Telling somone they don't know their head from their a$$ is an insult. Can you see the difference? First of all, the way I said it was clearly my opinion: I don't think he ever knows what he is saying. Notice the underlined part. I was giving my opinion based on the question asked by old salt where what Wez said was seen as confusing to many people. If others say their confused by what Wez meant, and I say I believe he is always lost in his postings (my true meaning for my comment to be honest) then that is both on topic for the question I was responding to and also my opinion. I believe I am entitled to voice my opinions right? You trying to add sh1t to the game by trying to make it sound like I said more than I did: Telling somone they don't know their head from their a$$ is an insult. Is not helping any either. So lets just make this simpler. Are you trying to say Wez is a conservative and I am wrong when I say his voiced opinions are liberal leaning? Even his test result said he was mostly a liberal. Seriously, this is like gays being mad when you call them gay, if your gay be proud of what you are, I am mostly a conservative, I proclaim it with honor because I am what I am by decisions I am proud of.
ImWithStupid Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 First of all, the way I said it was clearly my opinion: Notice the underlined part. I was giving my opinion based on the question asked by old salt where what Wez said was seen as confusing to many people. If others say their confused by what Wez meant, and I say I believe he is always lost in his postings (my true meaning for my comment to be honest) then that is both on topic for the question I was responding to and also my opinion. I believe I am entitled to voice my opinions right? You trying to add sh1t to the game by trying to make it sound like I said more than I did: Is not helping any either. So lets just make this simpler. Are you trying to say Wez is a conservative and I am wrong when I say his voiced opinions are liberal leaning? Even his test result said he was mostly a liberal. Seriously, this is like gays being mad when you call them gay, if your gay be proud of what you are, I am mostly a conservative, I proclaim it with honor because I am what I am by decisions I am proud of. I'm not saying anyone is anything. Let's try a test. Timesjoke, I think you are a liberal. Timesjoke, I think you don't EVER know what you are talking about. Now, which one would a reasonable person believe to be a personal attack?
timesjoke Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 I'm not saying anyone is anything. Let's try a test. Timesjoke, I think you are a liberal. Timesjoke, I think you don't EVER know what you are talking about. Now, which one would a reasonable person believe to be a personal attack? Nirther or both the same, it all comes down to what is understood about the person in question. I am clearly not a liberal so calling me one is an insult. I generally do not get involved in any discussion where I do not know what I am talking about at least a little so the other comment would also be an insilt. But, what if the comment is correct, is the comment still an insult? This is why your dodging my question, you know darn well Wez is clearly a liberal and me calling him one is fact, not an insult. You have also admitted Wez starts the messes most of the time and the truth panned out he started this one as well so my opinion about Wez seeming to be lost most of the time seems to be fairly accurate as well. Are we now starting the PC posting guidelines here where I cannot call a spade a spade out of fear I may offend you? I can post several things Wez has said that shows his liberal leanings, can you prove me wrong and show Wez is a conservative?
ImWithStupid Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 I am clearly not a liberal so calling me one is an insult. I generally do not get involved in any discussion where I do not know what I am talking about at least a little so the other comment would also be an insilt. But, what if the comment is correct, is the comment still an insult? This is why your dodging my question, you know darn well Wez is clearly a liberal and me calling him one is fact, not an insult. So when wez is for smaller government, and the elimination of social programs that means he is a liberal? I refuse to judge anyone anything. I personally feel that I am a moderate conservative. If someone feels that I am a liberal and calls me such. I don't feel that is a personal attack. I feel that is their opinion of me. Que Sera Sera. It's their opionion. I know how I feel, I know what my position is and I don't care what they migh interpret. You have also admitted Wez starts the messes most of the time and the truth panned out he started this one as well so my opinion about Wez seeming to be lost most of the time seems to be fairly accurate as well. No. I said that wez had done things in the past that we talked about in PMs that he has responded to positively. Are we now starting the PC posting guidelines here where I cannot call a spade a spade out of fear I may offend you? How is saying someone never knows what they are talking about, calling a spade a spade, when you personally say that the same person is intelligent and has responses that show the same? I can post several things Wez has said that shows his liberal leanings, can you prove me wrong and show Wez is a conservative? The difference is wez has never, once, after you and others have called him liberal, or whatever, claimed it was a personal attack on him.
timesjoke Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 So when wez is for smaller government, and the elimination of social programs that means he is a liberal? As I have attempted to explain to you several times, shades of gray. Wez is a liberal and even if he was telling the truth about wanting social programs to be removed (I have good reason to doubt him) that does not change the fact he openly supports liberal agendas most of the time, his test even came back liberal, at this point your just grasping for straws to try and save face with the way you flew off the handle at me. You were wrong, just admit and accept it so we can move on. I refuse to judge anyone anything. Very Jesus of you, interesting that it also allows you to avoid answering a question that would make you agree with me. By the way, your jumping to "wrong" conclusions about who started this was a form of judging, bad judging to be more correct. I personally feel that I am a moderate conservative. If someone feels that I am a liberal and calls me such. I don't feel that is a personal attack. I feel that is their opinion of me. Que Sera Sera. It's their opionion. I know how I feel, I know what my position is and I don't care what they migh interpret. Fine, but don't expect the rest of the world to be perfect like you. The rest of us must live life as humans. If I had a choice concerning where you could be perfect I would rather you not fly off the handle at me when things were not started by me. No. I said that wez had done things in the past that we talked about in PMs that he has responded to positively. No, you very clearly said Wez was the one who tends to start these problems: Before anyone blames anyone, we all know it often starts with Wez (you know it's true and we had an agreement) but this time it wasn't him. Being as we now know he started this one, definate trends can be seen. How is saying someone never knows what they are talking about, calling a spade a spade, when you personally say that the same person is intelligent and has responses that show the same? I have proven him wrong so many times it is no longer funny, this is why he lashes out at me so much, to get revenge . I said Wez has good points sometimes, and he does, but he ruins his points by either adding attacks that close discussions or by adding completely wrong information. Let me offer an example and we will see how you respond. Wez says all soldiers are mindless murderers, do you feel that statement shows he knows what he is taking about? The difference is wez has never, once, after you and others have called him liberal, or whatever, claimed it was a personal attack on him. Because he "is" a liberal. How is it a personal attack if it is true? Your floundering around trying to save face here, I know why your trying so hard but at the end of the day one thing is still true. Wez started the attacks, you "assumed" I started them and flew off the handle at me. You don't want to take responsibility for your wrong action and are now playing word games trying to make me say my attack was worse than his attack but it all boils down to this: Without his attack "first" my "reply" would not exist. Look, I had a short agreement with Wez last night where we agreed to be more careful posting tword each other. I don't know if or how long it will last but maybe it is better if we just let this go instead of you working so hard to save face. While your floundering, we are still talking about Wez and that is sort of against my agreement with him even though I am talking with you. While it is certainly possible that our truce will not last long, I don't want that time to be reduced because of me.
ImWithStupid Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 As I have attempted to explain to you several times, shades of gray. Wez is a liberal and even if he was telling the truth about wanting social programs to be removed (I have good reason to doubt him) that does not change the fact he openly supports liberal agendas most of the time, his test even came back liberal, at this point your just grasping for straws to try and save face with the way you flew off the handle at me. You were wrong, just admit and accept it so we can move on. Very Jesus of you, interesting that it also allows you to avoid answering a question that would make you agree with me. By the way, your jumping to "wrong" conclusions about who started this was a form of judging, bad judging to be more correct. Fine, but don't expect the rest of the world to be perfect like you. The rest of us must live life as humans. If I had a choice concerning where you could be perfect I would rather you not fly off the handle at me when things were not started by me. No, you very clearly said Wez was the one who tends to start these problems: Being as we now know he started this one, definate trends can be seen. I have proven him wrong so many times it is no longer funny, this is why he lashes out at me so much, to get revenge . I said Wez has good points sometimes, and he does, but he ruins his points by either adding attacks that close discussions or by adding completely wrong information. Let me offer an example and we will see how you respond. Wez says all soldiers are mindless murderers, do you feel that statement shows he knows what he is taking about? Because he "is" a liberal. How is it a personal attack if it is true? Your floundering around trying to save face here, I know why your trying so hard but at the end of the day one thing is still true. Wez started the attacks, you "assumed" I started them and flew off the handle at me. You don't want to take responsibility for your wrong action and are now playing word games trying to make me say my attack was worse than his attack but it all boils down to this: Without his attack "first" my "reply" would not exist. Look, I had a short agreement with Wez last night where we agreed to be more careful posting tword each other. I don't know if or how long it will last but maybe it is better if we just let this go instead of you working so hard to save face. While your floundering, we are still talking about Wez and that is sort of against my agreement with him even though I am talking with you. While it is certainly possible that our truce will not last long, I don't want that time to be reduced because of me. I'm not trying to save face on anything. I said how I interpreted wez' comment, Old Salt wasn't sure what he meant, and neither was Brotherman. They asked for clarification. By the time that I had a chance to read what was going on. You had already determined that when someone insinuates you may be a liberal, in your mind, is equivelent to a black man being called the "n" word and you and wez went on some kind of childish tirade. Since I thought wez meant Libertarian, just like Old Salt, the next post by you seemed to be an attack on wez. If you want me to apologize for my interpretation of this thread, then I will as soon as you apologize for the crying session you had for several days when you misinterpreted my comment as me threatening to ban you. I wasn't, it was your incorrect interpretation. Same thing. I swear, my 13 year old daughter is less moody, and her feelings don't get hurt as often as you. It's amazing how I can say something to anyone else on this board about their conduct and they have no problem, but you go off on some kind of middle school girl whine fest. Don't worry about me anymore. Since you can't handle criticism. Whenever posts vear off topic and you go on these little games you guys play, if you are involved, instead of saying anything, I will just either delete the posts or the entire thread, like I had to on the Abortion Smoothie thread.
ImWithStupid Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 That's what is the riot.. I agree with TJ, point out his double standard in his rediclious labeling of me and rather than admit it, he crys a river to anyone who will listen and launches into personal attacks and hypocrisy and claims it's me... Hahahahahahaha... What's new? You're not special TJ.. I'm used to it, unfortunately for you... $5000 bucks says TJ's next post is a lengthy pity party of how IWS is harassing and personally attacking him... I was betting with you. We could have won big in Vegas.
eddo Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 Piss off.. take their advice, specially eddo's. He knows better.. Too bad for him you didn't turn out to be his knight in shining armor.. Hahahahaha Shifting to attacking me? No thanks. I'd rather wipe my ass with sandpaper. Mush less irritating... I'm trusted by more women.
wez Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 Shifting to attacking me? No thanks. I'd rather wipe my ass with sandpaper. Mush less irritating... Poor wittle victim eddo... illusions get you no where with me. Carry on.. you know me. You one of the 15? Got something to say to my face?
eddo Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 Poor wittle victim eddo... illusions get you no where with me. Carry on.. you know me. You one of the 15? Got something to say to my face? nope, not interested. I'm trusted by more women.
wez Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 nope, not interested. Hahahahaha.. ok eddo. Nice try. You smell like a rose..
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