Obama on a roll

[timesjoke]

I don't like the man but I have to give him one thing, he is a great speaker.

 

 

I watched speaches from both him and Mccain tonight and even though the promises Obama was making made my conservative skin crawl, I have to admit that he far surpasses anyone else in his ability to speak.

 

 

He is building up a head of steam that I am starting to believe will not only knock off Hillary, but Mccain as well.

 

 

Start hiding your money guys, I see tax increases so large comming that even rocks will be spitting out money.

[hugo]

I don't like the man but I have to give him one thing, he is a great speaker.

 

 

I watched speaches from both him and Mccain tonight and even though the promises Obama was making made my conservative skin crawl, I have to admit that he far surpasses anyone else in his ability to speak.

 

 

He is building up a head of steam that I am starting to believe will not only knock off Hillary, but Mccain as well.

 

 

Start hiding your money guys, I see tax increases so large comming that even rocks will be spitting out money.

 

He will lose to McCain.

[timesjoke]

He will lose to McCain.

 

Man, you have no idea how much I want to believe that.

 

 

I just have real problems believing it when you watch the two speak.

 

 

Mccain is so lack luster I keep thinking he could use something to pick him up. I have been listening to a lot oc commentators lately about trends for running campaigns and most of them see this the way I do.

 

 

Most of the time, you see a guy rally the bas, the standard large numbers of a party and then after their selected as the party canidate, they move to the middle to pick up votes.

 

If Mccain move any more away from conservative, he will be a full liberal.

 

If he was facing Clinton, I would believe the conservative vote would get motivated to vote against her instead of for Mccain, but Obama, well he scares us to a point, but I don't know if it is enough to do the same thing.

 

 

The horrible point about Mccain is if he does win it will not be because we like him.

[snafu]

I don't like the man but I have to give him one thing, he is a great speaker.

 

 

I watched speaches from both him and Mccain tonight and even though the promises Obama was making made my conservative skin crawl, I have to admit that he far surpasses anyone else in his ability to speak.

 

 

He is building up a head of steam that I am starting to believe will not only knock off Hillary, but Mccain as well.

 

 

Start hiding your money guys, I see tax increases so large comming that even rocks will be spitting out money.

 

I have yet to hear anything from Obama. I've had to reasrech all of his stances. His whole thing is change, change, change. Well change what? No matter who gets in office is gonna be a change.

[hugo]

Obama: Most Liberal Senator In 2007

 

By Brian Friel, Richard E. Cohen and Kirk Victor, National Journal

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Thursday, Jan. 31, 2008

 

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal senator in 2007, according to National Journal's 27th annual vote ratings. The insurgent presidential candidate shifted further to the left last year in the run-up to the primaries, after ranking as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate.

 

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., the other front-runner in the Democratic presidential race, also shifted to the left last year. She ranked as the 16th-most-liberal senator in the 2007 ratings, a computer-assisted analysis that used 99 key Senate votes, selected by NJ reporters and editors, to place every senator on a liberal-to-conservative scale in each of three issue categories. In 2006, Clinton was the 32nd-most-liberal senator.

 

In their yearlong race for the Democratic presidential nomination, Obama and Clinton have had strikingly similar voting records. Of the 267 measures on which both senators cast votes in 2007, the two differed on only 10. "The policy differences between Clinton and Obama are so slight they are almost nonexistent to the average voter," said Richard Lau, a Rutgers University political scientist.

 

 

 

But differences define campaigns. The yeas and nays matter. And in a Senate in which party-line votes are the rule, the rare exceptions help to show how two senators who seemed like ideological twins in 2007 were not actually identical. Obama and Clinton were more like fraternal policy twins, NJ's vote ratings show.

 

As the battles for the 2008 Democratic and Republican presidential nominations have raged, the candidates have blasted each other for taking positions that are out of line with party dogma. Obama has repeatedly challenged Clinton's 2002 vote authorizing the Iraq war, labeling her foreign policy "Bush/Cheney-lite"; Clinton has pointed to Obama's "present" votes on the abortion issue in the Illinois Legislature to raise questions about his support for abortion rights. Meanwhile, Republicans have battled over the strength of their conservative credentials on taxes, immigration, and national security.

 

When the campaign shifts into the general election, however, the two nominees may each seek to cast their opponent as a party extremist. During the 2004 presidential campaign, for instance, Republicans attacked Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., as an extreme liberal, including by pointing to his ranking as the most liberal senator in NJ's 2003 vote ratings.

 

Such lines of attack are already apparent in this year's race. At a January 16 Republican National Committee meeting, Karl Rove, President Bush's former campaign architect, called Obama "a straight-down-the-line United States Senate national Democrat." Rove pointedly added: "Nonpartisan ratings say that he has a more liberal and a more straight-party voting record than Senator Clinton does. Pretty hard to do." How the eventual nominee handles criticisms of his or her voting record could help determine the next president of the United States.

 

That is gonna bite his ass come November.

[DaMan]

The dem nomination will be won at the convertion. I doubt either will reach the 2025 delegate count before then.

 

It will be Obama against McCain an I too see Obama winning. One thing I don't like about McCain is his age. This will work agaist him in a big way. Who really wants a 70 year old president?

 

I am a life long Republican and it looks like this time will be the second time I vote for a Democrat in the Presidential election. The other time I voted for Carter instead of Ford because of the stink left over from Nixon. This time because I don't want an old man running the country. It didn't work out well for the country with Roosevelt in his last term or Reagan in his last

[RegisteredAndEducated]

The dem nomination will be won at the convertion. I doubt either will reach the 2025 delegate count before then.

 

It will be Obama against McCain an I too see Obama winning. One thing I don't like about McCain is his age. This will work agaist him in a big way. Who really wants a 70 year old president?

 

I am a life long Republican and it looks like this time will be the second time I vote for a Democrat in the Presidential election. The other time I voted for Carter instead of Ford because of the stink left over from Nixon. This time because I don't want an old man running the country. It didn't work out well for the country with Roosevelt in his last term or Reagan in his last

 

I wouldn't vote for obama just because mccain's old. You see all the bad Carter did... He was one of the top 5 worst president's in history. I don't see obama taking this one. If he gets the dem nomination, I see a republican taking it. If hilary gets it, I see her taking it.

[wez]

I wouldn't vote for obama just because mccain's old. You see all the bad Carter did... He was one of the top 5 worst president's in history. I don't see obama taking this one. If he gets the dem nomination, I see a republican taking it. If hilary gets it, I see her taking it.

 

Vote for Jim Beam!

[Old Salt]

Vote for Jim Beam!

Jack Daniels is a much better candidate.

[wez]

Jack Daniels is a much better candidate.

 

Although, Buds Wiser...

[snafu]

I wouldn't vote for obama just because mccain's old. You see all the bad Carter did... He was one of the top 5 worst president's in history. I don't see obama taking this one. If he gets the dem nomination, I see a republican taking it. If hilary gets it, I see her taking it.

 

That would be my prediction too. McCain can beat Obama but Hillary can beat McCain.

[timesjoke]

That would be my prediction too. McCain can beat Obama but Hillary can beat McCain.

 

I don't see it that way.

 

Obama is having great success with making the long term guys look bad because of the same old and tired politics. Nevermind he has no specifics to show how he is different, but it is still working for him.

 

 

Most Americans are very pissed right now with how our politics have been going and I believe Obama is doing so well because he is truly the only guy able to say he is not mired down with a lifetime of politics and owing people.

 

 

 

Mccain against Hillary leaves a lot of baggage to attack before the election including her husband and her involvement with more scandles than any other canidate in history.

 

 

Nobody has gone truly negative against Obama because all of the small attacks have backfired against everyone.

 

 

In my opinion, Mccain has a better chance against Hillary than Obama. There are a lot of consvatives who would motivate to stop another Clinton from taking office, those same conservatives do not have anything personal against Obama.

[phreakwars]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY]YouTube - Yes We Can - Barack Obama Music Video[/ame]

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[hugo]

I don't see it that way.

 

Nobody has gone truly negative against Obama because all of the small attacks have backfired against everyone.

 

 

 

 

That is because Democrats have to have the black vote. Republicans do not. The most liberal member of the Senate will get his comeuppance in the general election.

[timesjoke]

That is because Democrats have to have the black vote. Republicans do not. The most liberal member of the Senate will get his comeuppance in the general election.

 

Again, I hope your right, but like the video Bender just posted, Obama is promising what he calls hope, the "yes we can" slogan is catching on and no matter how empty his promise is, people are believing in him where Mccain does not have believers, he has supporters.

 

 

I don't like Mccain, I will place my vote for him, but I am not inspired by him in any way at all. If a moderate liberal was running for office, I would vote for that moderate in a heartbeat over Mccain.

 

 

The reason I do not like Mccain is because he is a true moderate pretending to be a conservative and there are many Americans like me and Cloaked who are very dissapointed in Mccain. Cloaked is dissapointed enough to vote for the pure liberal, I'm not, at least not yet, but believe me, there are lots of dissapointed true conservatives who don't want Mccain soiling the name of conversative in the whitehouse.

 

 

I spoke with some fellow Republicans the other day who were talking about Obama getting elected as the nasty tasting medicine America needs to remind Americans how bad radical liberals are when in complete control. I see their point and in a very rare time of my life, I could not offer an arguement against their idea.

 

We are always skirting the edges of socialism in America and it is a constant battle to fight it off. Most Americans do not even understand how bad this kind of agenda is. Sometimes they have too see for themselves.

[atlantic]

I predicted this at the old site. Obama will win the election!

[eddo]

Barack Obama Music Video

 

 

Is it bad that the only person in that video that I could name of the top of my head was Kareem?

 

Like TJ said, Obama talks a great talk, it's just to bad there isn't any ideas to go with his talk.

 

Yes we can to justice and equality.

 

Yes we can to opportunity and prosperity.

 

Yes we can heal this nation.

 

Yes we can repair this world.

 

ok, that's nice, but how you gonna do it?

 

A nice catchphase will only get you so far...

[ImWithStupid]

Obama is promising what he calls hope, the "yes we can" slogan is catching on and no matter how empty his promise is, people are believing in him where Mccain does not have believers, he has supporters..

 

Now where have I heard something similar, in politics, that, also caught on and was pretty successful?

 

Oh yea,

 

I end tonight where it all began for me: I still believe in a place called Hope. ~ Bill Clinton - July 16, 1992 - Democratic National Convention

[hugo]

 

I don't like Mccain, I will place my vote for him, but I am not inspired by him in any way at all. If a moderate liberal was running for office, I would vote for that moderate in a heartbeat over Mccain.

 

 

 

We are always skirting the edges of socialism in America and it is a constant battle to fight it off. Most Americans do not even understand how bad this kind of agenda is. Sometimes they have too see for themselves.

 

I will once again vote against socialism and vote Libertarian.

[wez]

I don't know.. Can I trust him? I just saw Obama say something I really liked..

 

 

He said he would end the war in 09'.. he said he opposed it from the get go, and talked about the harm it's caused our country in blood and treasure. He then said he wanted to change the mindset of a government based on fear.. I liked it. Can he do it? At least plant the seed? That'd be good enough for me.. Best thing I ever saw a politician say in my life.. I may break down from my decision to never vote for a Dem or Republican again..

 

He's a great speaker.. first time I ever really paid him any attention.. I like him. Seems intelligent.. and honest.

[ImWithStupid]

He's a great speaker.. first time I ever really paid him any attention.. I like him. Seems intelligent.. and honest.

 

I wonder if he would be as great of a speaker if he had to come up with his own ideas.

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08aFc]YouTube - Just Words. Just not Obama's.[/ame]

[wez]

Nope.. now I see he's talking about raising minimum wage to match inflation and some crap about every child from birth til they graduate from college.. $40,000 tuition credit for public service.. We aint nothing but a bunch of commies.. Hahahahaha...

 

 

Ron Paul all the way...

[snafu]

I would've never guessed that Obama would be on such a roll.

In one way I'm glad because I didn't want to see Hillary in the White House. But on the other hand I don't wanna see Obama in the White House either. And my prediction that Hillary could beat McCain and McCain could beat Obama seams to be totally wrong. Now I actually see Obama winning! Holy Hanna!

 

Anyway Hillary is grabbing at staws now. It's the media's fault .

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[ImWithStupid]

I would've never guessed that Obama would be on such a roll.

In one way I'm glad because I didn't want to see Hillary in the White House. But on the other hand I don't wanna see Obama in the White House either. And my prediction that Hillary could beat McCain and McCain could beat Obama seams to be totally wrong. Now I actually see Obama winning! Holy Hanna!

 

Anyway Hillary is grabbing at staws now. It's the media's fault .

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The problem with Obama's momentum is that once he is the Dem candidate, he will actually have to say what his form of "change" is. It seems that everytime he give a glimpse of his idea of "change" the more people make a face like this , and have second thoughts.

[snafu]

The problem with Obama's momentum is that once he is the Dem candidate, he will actually have to say what his form of "change" is. It seems that everytime he give a glimpse of his idea of "change" the more people make a face like this , and have second thoughts.

 

Yeah I've haven't heard one change from him. His whole thing is we shouldn't have gone to war. He's a needle neck moron. He's courting the people who think the war should never have started or that its gone long enough.

On 60 minutes one commentary said it all. If the country thinks there is still a threat of terrorism McCain is the choice and will win. If they are content that the world is fine and secure Obama will win. The fact is the world will never be fine and secure. When or if Obama steps foot in the oval office he will be faced with this fact.