eddo Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 No, the fundamental values you learned in life speaks to you and guides your path in life. God is merely the scapegoat. . . the fundamental values I learned in life came from God. You can believe it's something else if you want, but I know different. Quote I'm trusted by more women.
phreakwars Posted March 11, 2008 Author Posted March 11, 2008 the fundamental values I learned in life came from God. No, they were from what you PERCEIVED to be God, your God is unique to you and not a reflection of someone else's version of God, therefore if God is someone different for someone else, He can not exist. This God anomaly disproves his existence for that one key reason. God can't follow different rules in different corners of the globe, that makes no sense in the slightest. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
timesjoke Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 No, they were from what you PERCEIVED to be God, your God is unique to you and not a reflection of someone else's version of God, therefore if God is someone different for someone else, He can not exist. This God anomaly disproves his existence for that one key reason. God can't follow different rules in different corners of the globe, that makes no sense in the slightest. . . There was an experiment we did for every class of new law enforcement officers that I think will help you with your understanding of this concept: During a routine class, a man will run into the room, wave a weapon around, make threats and other statements, and then run out all withoug any warning to the class. After the man leaves the room, all the students are then told to write a report on what happened and to be very detailed about things like clothing, the weapon, what was said, etc. I have never seen an accurate report and I have read many hundreds of reports. This is what is wrong with religion, each of us do experience the reality of God but our understanding of what we see and feel is subjust to each persons perceptions and preconceived ideas of what God is or isn't. There is a God, "he" is most likely not 100% what any religion says he is because religions are mans definition, and man has never been able to do anything 100% correct in his entire history. But, we see him through his works. But, the first sign to know your most likely on the wrong path is that you feel it neccessary to say most of the world is delusional or telling lies just because they believe something you don't. Quote
wez Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 But, the first sign to know your most likely on the wrong path is that you feel it neccessary to say most of the world is delusional or telling lies just because they believe something you don't. No doubt, I get wacko's online running around accusing me of being delusional and lying quite often while trying to ban me for many of my beliefs. I guess if I'm right, they must be wrong.. rather than examine their views and challenge me with logic, they'd rather I just disappear.. Crazy. 6 billion people can say something is truth, one person can say the opposite. That one person just may be right.. Quote
snafu Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 There was an experiment we did for every class of new law enforcement officers that I think will help you with your understanding of this concept: During a routine class, a man will run into the room, wave a weapon around, make threats and other statements, and then run out all withoug any warning to the class. After the man leaves the room, all the students are then told to write a report on what happened and to be very detailed about things like clothing, the weapon, what was said, etc. I have never seen an accurate report and I have read many hundreds of reports. This is what is wrong with religion, each of us do experience the reality of God but our understanding of what we see and feel is subjust to each persons perceptions and preconceived ideas of what God is or isn't. There is a God, "he" is most likely not 100% what any religion says he is because religions are mans definition, and man has never been able to do anything 100% correct in his entire history. But, we see him through his works. But, the first sign to know your most likely on the wrong path is that you feel it neccessary to say most of the world is delusional or telling lies just because they believe something you don't. Well I liked the comparison and agree with you, very well said. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
phreakwars Posted March 11, 2008 Author Posted March 11, 2008 There was an experiment we did for every class of new law enforcement officers that I think will help you with your understanding of this concept: During a routine class, a man will run into the room, wave a weapon around, make threats and other statements, and then run out all without any warning to the class. After the man leaves the room, all the students are then told to write a report on what happened and to be very detailed about things like clothing, the weapon, what was said, etc.In that scenario, all parties involved can agree on common traits about the suspect because they all, for lack of better terms "BARED WITNESS" to what was going on around them I have never seen an accurate report and I have read many hundreds of reports.This finding does not play into the "GOD scenario" very well, but I do understand the point you are trying to make This is what is wrong with religion, each of us do experience the reality of God but our understanding of what we see and feel is subjust to each persons perceptions and preconceived ideas of what God is or isn't. That sounds strangely similar to me saying: the fundamental values you learned in life speaks to you and guides your path in life. God is merely the scapegoat. There is a God, "he" is most likely not 100% what any religion says he is because religions are mans definition, and man has never been able to do anything 100% correct in his entire history. But, we see him through his works.Your whole analogy does not prove god in the slightest, it only proves different perceptions of what God is to others. But, the first sign to know your most likely on the wrong path is that you feel it necessary to say most of the world is delusional or telling lies just because they believe something you don't.That (being on the wrong path) would be a personal opinion. You need to define what the "wrong path" is, and it certainly ISN'T: the fundamental values you learned in life that speaks to you and guides your path in life. Because if it were, things like Religious extremists groups and terrorists, would end up being the good guys. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
timesjoke Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 In that scenario, all parties involved can agree on common traits about the suspect because they all, for lack of better terms "BARED WITNESS" to what was going on around them But that is my point, they cannot agree even thought hey are all partly trained in this stuff. We use this example to show cops why they intervies ten witnesses at a crime and get completely different stories aven thought they all saw the same incident. This finding does not play into the "GOD scenario" very well, but I do understand the point you are trying to make I offered this example to your claim: No' date=' they were from what you PERCEIVED to be God, your God is unique to you and not a reflection of someone else's version of God, therefore if God is someone different for someone else, He can not exist. This God anomaly disproves his existence for that one key reason. God can't follow different rules in different corners of the globe, that makes no sense in the slightest.[/quote'] My example shows you why there can be one true thing or person or even a God but so many people see the same reality in different ways. That sounds strangely similar to me saying: the fundamental values you learned in life speaks to you and guides your path in life. God is merely the scapegoat. In your opinion, but your biased just like I am biased about what I believe, the clue to who is being unreasonable is your the one pointing fingers and calling names. I know what I feel, you can call me a lier all day long and I say your the one telling lies about what I feel. Your whole analogy does not prove god in the slightest, it only proves different perceptions of what God is to others. No, I proved that a real situation and person can be seen as many different things and even though each person sees something different, that does not change the reality of what happened. That (being on the wrong path) would be a personal opinion. You need to define what the "wrong path" is, and it certainly ISN'T: the fundamental values you learned in life that speaks to you and guides your path in life. Because if it were, things like Religious extremists groups and terrorists, would end up being the good guys. They might be the good guys but let me answer your question another way. A cop is trained and knows all about the law and after a few years he gets upset at how the system seems to be broken and decides to start taking the law into his own hands. He finds people who he feels has broken laws and starts being Judge, Jury, and excutioner all in his mind of doing what is legal and even using real laws and punnishments, even having his own little fast trials where he gives the person a chance to defend himself. Now, is the law the fault or the guy executing his version of the law? Don't blame God for what man does, man is filled with mistakes and even though he may be good intending in his attempts to worship God, his methods may or may not be what God intends for him to do. We need to forget preconceived ideas and start listening to the little voice we all hear but refuse to admit exists in some cases. When you take something that does not belong to you, you feel that what your doing is wrong without anyone telling you. Fundamental truths, an example of the reality of God. I leave you with a thought, do you love anyone? Truly love them? Can you prove it? How can we all know what is truly in your heart? How can you make anyone else understand and feel what you feel? Quote
RegisteredAndEducated Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 i dont believe that any of those choices are sins. lets have a choice that says none of the above. Quote Intelligent people think... how ignorance must be bliss.... idiots have it so easy, it's not fair... to have to think... WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right...
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