What is happening to our girls?

[timesjoke]

1 in 4 Teen Girls Has Sexual Disease

 

1 in 4 teen girls has a STD?

 

When will we stop and look around at the immoral world we are creating and figure out this new trend is tearing us apart?

[Old Salt]

And that's probably just from treatment records and interviews. What about all those who are too afraid or ashamed to go to the doctor?

[snafu]

I saw that the other night. That's just plain crazy. We need to change somthing thats for sure.

[timesjoke]

I saw that the other night. That's just plain crazy. We need to change somthing thats for sure.

 

The question is, what do we do?

 

This is caused by a society that is losing it's morals. How do we give our youth the moral structure to resist temptations and accept responsibility for their actions when we have Presidents and Goveners involved in sex scandles?

 

 

Like it or not, agree with it or not, this Country did not have these kinds of problems when we had strong religious based morals. As we are killing God, we are also destroying society as we know it, there is nothing to hold us together or provide stability to help fight off temptations.

 

 

While religion does not have to be the answer, we do need something strong to replace this lost moral fiber or we will never improve these problems.

[ImWithStupid]

I think these results are a little misleading of the US population in general, for two reasons.

 

First, If you break it down to population segments by race, white and hispanic girls are about 20% and the black population is near 50%. This appears to be one more problem with the inner city.

 

Second, if I remember right, they are counting cases of the human papillomavirus, which is the virus that is linked to cervical cancer and genital warts.

 

Even though technically this is transmitted sexually, this effects 50% of the sexually active population, both male and female, in their lifetime.

 

HPV infection. Approximately 20 million Americans are currently infected with HPV, and another 6.2 million people become newly infected each year. At least 50% of sexually active men and women acquire genital HPV infection at some point in their lives.

 

The bad part is that there is a vaccine to prevent catching and spreading the virus. I personnaly think that it should be included in middle school vaccinations.

 

A vaccine can now protect females from the four types of HPV that cause most cervical cancers and genital warts. The vaccine is recommended for 11 and 12 year-old girls. It is also recommended for girls and women age 13 through 26 who have not yet been vaccinated or completed the vaccine series.

[Ahhlee]

- High divorce rates

- Lack of a positive male role model in many homes

- Teen promiscuity being glamorized on tv and in the movies

- Teachers and other mentors no longer trying to reach kids on a personal level for fear of being sued.

- Slutty fashions = slutty kids.

- Young, uneducated and pregnant? Welcome to welfare where you never have to work again!

- The igeneration has no problem with the phrase "my baby daddy" and almost seems to relish it as a status symbol.

- Kids have a false sense of entitlement. They think they should have cool electronics, fast cars and awesome spring break vacations without having ever held down a job. Why should their sexual appetites be any different?

- Kids aren't punished anymore and they are coddled against being held responsible for their own actions.

 

And #1 - Lack of parental involvement or "It's someone else's fault that my kid is a complete screwup."

[ImWithStupid]

- High divorce rates

- Lack of a positive male role model in many homes

- Teen promiscuity being glamorized on tv and in the movies

- Teachers and other mentors no longer trying to reach kids on a personal level for fear of being sued.

- Slutty fashions = slutty kids.

- Young, uneducated and pregnant? Welcome to welfare where you never have to work again!

- The igeneration has no problem with the phrase "my baby daddy" and almost seems to relish it as a status symbol.

- Kids have a false sense of entitlement. They think they should have cool electronics, fast cars and awesome spring break vacations without having ever held down a job. Why should their sexual appetites be any different?

- Kids aren't punished anymore and they are coddled against being held responsible for their own actions.

 

And #1 - Lack of parental involvement or "It's someone else's fault that my kid is a complete screwup."

 

Well said.

 

My response wasn't to disagree with the lack of morals that TJ was talking about, I completely agree the decline of morals along with the things you mentioned (I would add primetime shows like, "Deperate Housewives" to the tally. In the past they kept the slutty, cheat on your mate shows to daytime soaps, while the kids were at school). I was trying to point out that, IMO the data was obviously reported like it was, for shock value, and a bit of a misrepresentation.

 

If that shock is what it takes to get parents to pay better attention to their kids and what they do, watch or are exposed to, great.

[timesjoke]

- High divorce rates

- Lack of a positive male role model in many homes

- Teen promiscuity being glamorized on tv and in the movies

- Teachers and other mentors no longer trying to reach kids on a personal level for fear of being sued.

- Slutty fashions = slutty kids.

- Young, uneducated and pregnant? Welcome to welfare where you never have to work again!

- The igeneration has no problem with the phrase "my baby daddy" and almost seems to relish it as a status symbol.

- Kids have a false sense of entitlement. They think they should have cool electronics, fast cars and awesome spring break vacations without having ever held down a job. Why should their sexual appetites be any different?

- Kids aren't punished anymore and they are coddled against being held responsible for their own actions.

 

And #1 - Lack of parental involvement or "It's someone else's fault that my kid is a complete screwup."

 

Another great post.

 

Don't you agree that all of these points are all examples of a loss of morals as well? We can make a list of thousands of examples I am sure but in my opinion, they are all symptoms of the real problem of lost morals.

[Ahhlee]

Another great post.

 

Don't you agree that all of these points are all examples of a loss of morals as well? We can make a list of thousands of examples I am sure but in my opinion, they are all symptoms of the real problem of lost morals.

 

Yes, I can definitely agree with that statement. To be honest, I think the root symptoms would be lost morals and a lack of personal responsibility.

[timesjoke]

Yes, I can definitely agree with that statement. To be honest, I think the root symptoms would be lost morals and a lack of personal responsibility.

 

So if you could snap your fingers and make any one thing happen to help these girls, what would that one thing be?

[Feckless Wench]

Maybe if sex were treated as a normal part of life and discussed more openly then these teenagers would have the knowledge to protect themselves. They would also be able to get help sooner if they became infected. In Holland where the age of consent is lower and sex freely discussed in school there is not such a huge problem....even teen pregnancy rates are lower.

 

People get too strung up about sex, perhaps it's religion based?

[timesjoke]

Considering that sex education in America starts in Elementary school, just claiming girls are stupid cannot be the reason.

 

Their unprotected sex is the problem, not having sex would help but at least if they would use the free protection every state offers them their rates of STD's and unwanted pregnancies would diminish.

 

 

When religious values were held to high reguard, girls did not behave this way very often, so clearly the loss of these values and the severely high rate of immoral behavoir are linked. As I said before, religion may not be the answer, but we need something to give people a reason to be moral because things are getting worse and worse as the religious reasons for morals are being weakened.

 

 

As they say, the proof is in the pudding, and right now the pudding is rotten.

[wez]

Maybe if sex were treated as a normal part of life and discussed more openly then these teenagers would have the knowledge to protect themselves. They would also be able to get help sooner if they became infected. In Holland where the age of consent is lower and sex freely discussed in school there is not such a huge problem....even teen pregnancy rates are lower.

 

People get too strung up about sex, perhaps it's religion based?

 

 

Well said fecky.. just like German children drink beer at six years old, and they really don't have an alcoholic problem. "Do as I say, not as I do" will never work with children.. ever.

 

 

Considering that sex education in America starts in Elementary school, just claiming girls are stupid cannot be the reason.

 

Their unprotected sex is the problem, not having sex would help but at least if they would use the free protection every state offers them their rates of STD's and unwanted pregnancies would diminish.

 

 

When religious values were held to high reguard, girls did not behave this way very often, so clearly the loss of these values and the severely high rate of immoral behavoir are linked. As I said before, religion may not be the answer, but we need something to give people a reason to be moral because things are getting worse and worse as the religious reasons for morals are being weakened.

 

 

As they say, the proof is in the pudding, and right now the pudding is rotten.

 

The sex education here does not begin in grade school.. other than the education they get from pop culture and the fear tactics from religious nuts..

[Feckless Wench]

Considering that sex education in America starts in Elementary school, just claiming girls are stupid cannot be the reason.

 

I agree that girls are educated to a degree (basic mechanics of the act) BUT the whole attitude to sex seems to be more uptight in the USA. Holland (and a lot of Europe) is very relaxed about sex and the problem seems to be less of an issue here.

[wez]

I agree that girls are educated to a degree (basic mechanics of the act) BUT the whole attitude to sex seems to be more uptight in the USA. Holland (and a lot of Europe) is very relaxed about sex and the problem seems to be less of an issue here.

 

Very uptight!!

 

Unless things have changed drastically, I never had a spit of sex ed in school...

[Feckless Wench]

Very uptight!!

 

Why though? The more you make something 'naughty' the more attractive it becomes to teens.

[wez]

Why though? The more you make something 'naughty' the more attractive it becomes to teens.

 

 

Apparently God says sex is bad and we should be ashamed of our bodies and all the fine Christian soldiers we have running around over here will prove it to kids, or else.

[Feckless Wench]

Apparently God says sex is bad and we should be ashamed of our bodies and all the fine Christian soldiers we have running around over here will prove it to kids, or else.

 

I think that God actually says sex is wonderful BUT...then goes on to add limitations. Which kid doesn't want to push the boundaries.....

[ImWithStupid]

The sex education here does not begin in grade school.. other than the education they get from pop culture and the fear tactics from religious nuts..

 

I had my first sex ed class in the 5th grade. I moved and again had a sex ed class in 6th grade, both in elementary school. I would however have to say that these and the class I had again in 10th grade were more of a "reproduction ed" class then a "sex ed" and they all treated sex as a taboo issue, instead of open discussion about sex.

[wez]

I think that God actually says sex is wonderful BUT...then goes on to add limitations. Which kid doesn't want to push the boundaries.....

 

 

Lord knows I never push any boundries, even at 39.. you know that fecky..

[timesjoke]

I agree that girls are educated to a degree (basic mechanics of the act) BUT the whole attitude to sex seems to be more uptight in the USA. Holland (and a lot of Europe) is very relaxed about sex and the problem seems to be less of an issue here.

 

I would have to dissagree with you being as I have been involved in the sex education program in our public schools here in America for many years. The classes are very informative and consentrate in giving accurate information including how to protect themselves from disease and unwanted pregnancies.

 

Sex rate for teens of developed Countries are actually very similar if you look at the data, where America is higher (higher problem, lower use) than some is contraception use. That lower contraception use is the only reason we have higher unwanted pregnancies and disease.

 

 

Teens not wanting to use protection cannot be blamed on religion as your trying to do, clearly they know what causes the spread of disease, and they know what causes pregnancy, if anything they are too relaxed about sex to bother to take precautions.

 

 

If they are so relaxed about sex they just do it without any concern at all in the world, they are clearly not uptight, they are instead immoral, and the result of that immoral behavoir is things like STD's and unwanted babies.

[wez]

I had my first sex ed class in the 5th grade. I moved and again had a sex ed class in 6th grade, both in elementary school. I would however have to say that these and the class I had again in 10th grade were more of a "reproduction ed" class then a "sex ed" and they all treated sex as a taboo issue, instead of open discussion about sex.

 

Right.. reproduction 101.. this is how a baby is born.. not this is how to protect yourself and have safe sex.. More like, don't have sex or all kinds of bad will happen to you.. Totally taboo. No openness whatsoever.

 

 

 

I was 16 when I started having sex, and don't feel I was too young in the slightest.. Never was a slut. Had sex constantly, but with the same girl..

[Feckless Wench]

I had my first sex ed class in the 5th grade. I moved and again had a sex ed class in 6th grade, both in elementary school. I would however have to say that these and the class I had again in 10th grade were more of a "reproduction ed" class then a "sex ed" and they all treated sex as a taboo issue, instead of open discussion about sex.

 

Open discussion is best as far as I can see. Make something accessible and it loses its mystery (and in the process its magnetism). Sex ed over here covers the mechanics up to age 11 and then goes on to discuss all of the surrounding stuff.

 

It's the same with drugs...over here we teach kids...'Sure it'll make you feel good, but it might equally well kill you....and don't think just because you survived unscathed the first time you try it that it'll be the same the next time'.

 

What age are the grades over there? We use a different system here and I always get confused.

[ImWithStupid]

Open discussion is best as far as I can see. Make something accessible and it loses its mystery (and in the process its magnetism). Sex ed over here covers the mechanics up to age 11 and then goes on to discuss all of the surrounding stuff.

 

It's the same with drugs...over here we teach kids...'Sure it'll make you feel good, but it might equally well kill you....and don't think just because you survived unscathed the first time you try it that it'll be the same the next time'.

 

What age are the grades over there? We use a different system here and I always get confused.

 

I can't say how it is now, that was almost 20 years ago, but in my area they still have some form in elementary school.

[wez]

Open discussion is best as far as I can see. Make something accessible and it loses its mystery (and in the process its magnetism). Sex ed over here covers the mechanics up to age 11 and then goes on to discuss all of the surrounding stuff.

 

It's the same with drugs...over here we teach kids...'Sure it'll make you feel good, but it might equally well kill you....and don't think just because you survived unscathed the first time you try it that it'll be the same the next time'.

 

What age are the grades over there? We use a different system here and I always get confused.

 

 

 

5th and 6th would be 10-11 and 11-12 year olds.. I remember going to the gym to play dodgeball at that age whilst the girls watched their special video on menstration and such.. My sex ed was whipping a ball at other boys heads..