One More Reason To Prove The Democrats, Crazy

[ImWithStupid]

Reverend Al Sharpton.

 

Let's look at a letter, by him to DNC Chairman, Howard Dean, about a month ago...

 

SHARPTON CALLS ON THE DNC TO NOT SEAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES

Wed Feb 13 2008 09:42:14 ET

 

Dear Governor Dean:

 

I write this letter as a former Democratic candidate for President of the United States and a civil rights leader who has fought his entire life for fairness and justice for all people regardless of the color of their skin. I firmly believe that changing the rules now, and seating delegates from Florida and Michigan at this point would not only violate the Democratic party's rules of fairness, but also would be a grave injustice.

 

As former Presidential candidates we both know that, whether we liked them or not, we adhered to the rules set forth by the Democratic party to select its nominee for president. For example, I would have much preferred starting the nominating process with caucuses and primaries in South Carolina and Washington D.C. than Iowa and New Hampshire. Nonetheless, I knew the rules, abided by them, and ultimately accepted the consequences. Changing the rules in the middle of a presidential contest is patently unfair both to the candidates (including Senator Edwards) and to Democratic voters everywhere.

 

Some have said that not seating delegations from Florida and Michigan disenfranchises Democratic voters -- especially African American voters -- from those two states. That claim, if true, should have been made many months ago before the decision was made to strip these states of their delegates, and, once the decision was made, it should have been vigorously objected to and contested by those who felt it disenfranchised voters. To raise that claim now smacks of politics in its form most raw and undercuts the moral authority behind such an argument.

 

As a civil rights leader who is neutral in this presidential primary season and who highly respects both remaining Democratic candidates, I think we have a responsibility to protect both candidates from charges that the process was tainted so that our eventual nominee does not start the general election campaign under a cloud. Clearly, the justifiably proud and intense passions of each candidate's supporters will be on full display in the months leading up to the convention. However, the Democratic Party and independent voices within must temper over enthusiasm by either side and the party must be resolute in ensuring that there is one set of rules by which we select our nominee.

 

In Progress,

 

Reverend Al Sharpton, President of National Action Network

 

DRUDGE REPORT FLASH 2007?

 

It is a historic day. I agree with one thing that Rev. Al says.

[timesjoke]

But the real question is do you truly believe he is "neutral" as he claims?

 

 

A man with his history of only responding to issues to help blacks gain power is not wanting a black man to be elected as the President of the United States?

 

 

Please.

 

 

I agree with what he is asking for but I am pretty sure of his motives.

 

 

 

I agree with him because if Obama had known that the DNC would have reversed their decision, he could have made some effert to campaign in these two states. He did not bother with it because he thought their deligates would not be allowed to sit. The only reason they are thinking about changing the rules is because the Clinton's are above the rules in their opinion and Hillary needs as much support as they can give her.

[Old Salt]

IF they change the rules and re-vote, there are two possible outcomes. If they caucus, Obama has it. If it's a secret ballot, Hillary's got it. Maybe they can do like Texas and have both.

[phreakwars]

It's almost a 50/50 split on the Democratic Underground.. Some are saying they need the delegates, others are saying tough luck, that's the punishment you get for trying to move up the voting time line in the first place.

 

I happen to agree with the "TOUGH LUCK" mentality as well.

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[Old Salt]

It's almost a 50/50 split on the Democratic Underground.. Some are saying they need the delegates, others are saying tough luck, that's the punishment you get for trying to move up the voting time line in the first place.

 

I happen to agree with the "TOUGH LUCK" mentality as well.

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I, too, agree with the tough luck mentality. HOWEVER, I'm pretty sure the DNC will fold and allow a do-over. If they leave selection of the candidate to the super delegates, there will be big problems and probable defections to McCain.

[snafu]

It's almost a 50/50 split on the Democratic Underground.. Some are saying they need the delegates, others are saying tough luck, that's the punishment you get for trying to move up the voting time line in the first place.

 

I happen to agree with the "TOUGH LUCK" mentality as well.

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Yeah it's a 50/50 split. 50% voting for Hilary wants to revote and 50% voting for Obama don't. That?s why Al Sharpton doesn?t want the revote. I also agree with Al only because I think it's the fair thing to do and a revote would be a catastrophe.

[Old Salt]

Yeah it's a 50/50 split. 50% voting for Hilary wants to revote and 50% voting for Obama don't. That?s why Al Sharpton doesn?t want the revote. I also agree with Al only because I think it's the fair thing to do and a revote would be a catastrophe.

I think the Dems are in a no-win situation. Whatever they do, there'll be problems and complaints.

[phreakwars]

I think the Dems are in a no-win situation. Whatever they do, there'll be problems and complaints.

What stinks is Obama comes out looking like the bad guy here, and it's not even his fight to make. Just because he takes a neutral stance.

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[hugo]

Florida and Michigan are battleground states. The Dems , for their own good, should have another set of primaries.

[snafu]

Florida and Michigan are battleground states. The Dems , for their own good, should have another set of primaries.

 

Yeah well that should've been thought of before. You don't change the rules in the middle of the game.

[ImWithStupid]

Today...

 

Fla. Presidential Primary Re-Do Unlikely

 

By BRENDAN FARRINGTON

The Associated Press

Thursday, March 13, 2008; 3:37 PM

 

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Florida Democrats on Thursday proposed a vote-by-mail presidential primary to solve the high-stakes delegate dispute while acknowledging the plan's chances are slim.

 

washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

 

... and if there isn't a re-do, or Florida and Michigan delegates, are stripped, prepare for the lawsuit by the Clinton Machine.

 

If they allow the delegates to be seated as the primary elections, that were in violation of the DNC rules, based on the voter results, we can expect a lawsuit from Obama, even though he says now that he will accept whatever the DNC decides. Not only didn't he campaign there, Hillary was the only major candidate who put a name on the ballot, in Michigan.

[ImWithStupid]

It seems that Michigan may not be having the trouble with organizing a do-over, as Florida is.

 

Michigan, campaigns talk do-over primary

 

By KATHY BARKS HOFFMAN, Associated Press Writer

 

LANSING, Mich. - Michigan Democrats are close to an agreement with presidential candidates Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama to hold a do-over primary.

 

Party officials and the campaigns negotiated on Thursday, and state Democratic leaders were hopeful that an agreement could be reached on Friday, said Democratic officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the talks. To go forward, any plan would require the approval of the two campaigns, the Democratic National Committee, state party leaders and Gov. Jennifer Granholm, who is backing Clinton.

 

Michigan Democrats need to act quickly because the politically divided legislature will have to sign off on the deal and approve how to spend the privately raised funds for a new election. Members of the Democratic-controlled state House and Republican-controlled state Senate leave at the end of the month on their two-week spring break.

 

The contest must be held by June 10 for the results to count under DNC rules. Michigan currently has an election set for May 6 for voters to decide on education issues. The date of that contest could be changed to accommodate a new presidential primary.

 

Michigan, campaigns talk do-over primary - Yahoo! News

 

I still say that the Michigan and Florida Democratic Parties knew the rules, they were warned ahead of time about the consequences of moving a primary election ahead of the DNC allowed date would be forfeiting their delegates, the voters were aware in plenty of time to change the date.

 

No do-overs should be accepted.

 

I could see it if the voters weren't aware, but Christ, it was all over the news. I knew the rules were violated and I not only wouldn't have been able to vote, as I'm not a registered Democrat, but don't care, because I don't live there.