Watch THE VIEW lately?

[phreakwars]

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[wez]

YouTube - The View talks about Prescott Bush ties to Nazi Germany

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Take me forever to load this.. I assume they're talking about his support of Hitler? He was obviously a believer in the dream.. Nice.

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Whoopi is a nutcase.

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I've watched maybe a minute of this and I'm pissed all ready. We've been trying diplomacy. And appeasement is not the same as diplomacy. There's only so much you can do! arrrrrrrr... OK I'll finish it now.

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"lets bomb them and then talk? Is that what we should do?" blah blah blah. We've already been talking. Where has this bitch been? Dosn't she know we're already into the sanction stage? And Iran has already stated they want Israel wiped off the face of the planet. I wish I could go bitch slap Woopie and the other big mouth in the face!

[RoyalOrleans]

Why is the pretty one always singled out? I guess when you've got a fat jew, a nobody fat negra, and a has-been far negra in a room, talking about Obama and appeasing America's enemies and you're a pretty white girl; it's all out war on your opinion.

 

They will stop at nothing to convert her. Fortunately, her husband plays football for our country.

[RoyalOrleans]

Why is the pretty one always singled out? I guess when you've got a fat jew, a nobody fat negra, and a has-been far negra in a room, talking about Obama and appeasing America's enemies and you're a pretty white girl; it's all out war on your opinion.

 

They will stop at nothing to convert her. Fortunately, her husband plays football for our country.

 

I'm sorry Joy Behar married a Jew, however her maiden name is Italian and she was raised Roman Catholic. So that makes her a fat guinea mutt.

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Now that I actually watched it , it is the jewwop that went nuts, Whoopi was , surprisingly, reasonably rational. I wish Elizabeth had a bit of Ann Coulter in her.

[RoyalOrleans]

Now that I actually watched it , it is the jewwop that went nuts, Whoopi was , surprisingly, reasonably rational. I wish Elizabeth had a bit of Ann Coulter in her.

 

Just a comparison:

 

Liberal and Democrat Women look like Joy Behar, Rosie O'Donnell, and Hillary Clinton.

 

Conservative and Republican women look like Ann Coulter and Elisabeth Hasselbeck.

[Guest schoolmom]

OMG!! Are all of you people racists? "I'm with stupid" asked me to come to this forum to discuss issues, but from what I am seeing here people who don't resort to name calling and racist comments wouldn't fit in very well.

 

You really don't represent conservatives very well. I guess the views from the liberals that you are all racist might be right.

 

JMO

 

Schoolmom

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OMG!! Are all of you people racists? "I'm with stupid" asked me to come to this forum to discuss issues, but from what I am seeing here people who don't resort to name calling and racist comments wouldn't fit in very well.

 

You really don't represent conservatives very well. I guess the views from the liberals that you are all racist might be right.

 

JMO

 

Schoolmom

 

Like we care about a comment from a woman. Go back to the kitchen.

[Guest Cricket]

The View?

 

Sorry, I can't stomach that tripe. It is unfortunate that they don't add someone to complement the lone conservative instead of always having four against one. Or is it three? Ah, well, some of them are such chubbins that you can count them as more than one.

 

Pardon me, I need to go made dinner for my family now.

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The View?

 

Sorry, I can't stomach that tripe. It is unfortunate that they don't add someone to complement the lone conservative instead of always having four against one. Or is it three? Ah, well, some of them are such chubbins that you can count them as more than one.

 

Pardon me, I need to go made dinner for my family now.

 

My kind of woman.

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The View?

 

Sorry, I can't stomach that tripe. It is unfortunate that they don't add someone to complement the lone conservative instead of always having four against one. Or is it three? Ah, well, some of them are such chubbins that you can count them as more than one.

 

Pardon me, I need to go made dinner for my family now.

 

My kind of woman.

 

I think she's gonna fit in just fine.

[wez]

They will stop at nothing to convert her. Fortunately, her husband plays football for our country.

 

 

Hahahahahahaha....

[wez]

OMG!! Are all of you people racists? "I'm with stupid" asked me to come to this forum to discuss issues, but from what I am seeing here people who don't resort to name calling and racist comments wouldn't fit in very well.

 

You really don't represent conservatives very well. I guess the views from the liberals that you are all racist might be right.

 

JMO

 

Schoolmom

 

Not all of us..Just the ones south of the mason dixon line.. Still a wee bit sore about that whole civil war thing.. Ruined their "cheap labor" and destroyed the cotten industry for em. ... and some pretend like they are to ruffle feathers..

[emkay64]

I hate The View! Bah Humbug!

[RoyalOrleans]

OMG!! Are all of you people racists? "I'm with stupid" asked me to come to this forum to discuss issues, but from what I am seeing here people who don't resort to name calling and racist comments wouldn't fit in very well.

 

You really don't represent conservatives very well. I guess the views from the liberals that you are all racist might be right.

 

JMO

 

Schoolmom

 

I think you're a racist for calling me a racist. You're stereotyping me as a racist for making racist remarks.

 

Next thing you know, you'll be calling me a pervert for asking about your panties.

 

You make me sick.

[RoyalOrleans]

Hahahahahahaha....

 

Not very good, though. Tim's been passed around like a hot potato.

[RoyalOrleans]

Not all of us..Just the ones south of the mason dixon line.. Still a wee bit sore about that whole civil war thing.. Ruined their "cheap labor" and destroyed the cotten industry for em. ... and some pretend like they are to ruffle feathers..

 

Hey!

 

It had nothing to do with slaves, because 99% of the population were poor immigrant Scottish, Irish, and German farmers scratching a life off rock and dirt.

 

It was a States Rights issue.

[wez]

Hey!

 

It had nothing to do with slaves, because 99% of the population were poor immigrant Scottish, Irish, and German farmers scratching a life off rock and dirt.

 

It was a States Rights issue.

 

 

The civil war? Those were the people who were recruited to fight for the elite few I'm sure.. That war was all about slavery.. After Lincoln freed them, the South wanted to secede from the union.. and poor immigrants on both sides paid the price.

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Hey!

 

It had nothing to do with slaves, because 99% of the population were poor immigrant Scottish, Irish, and German farmers scratching a life off rock and dirt.

 

It was a States Rights issue.

 

States rights? That was the belief at the time. It became and is a civil rights issue and rightfully so and not for just blacks.

[RoyalOrleans]

The civil war? Those were the people who were recruited to fight for the elite few I'm sure.. That war was all about slavery.. After Lincoln freed them, the South wanted to secede from the union.. and poor immigrants on both sides paid the price.

 

Actually at that time, there was no fresh influx of immigrants into the South. The North had a blockade around the Atlantic coast.

 

The Declaration of Independence did not proclaim the existence of one new nation but rather of thirteen independent and sovereign states. If you look it up in the dictionary you will find that the word state is actually synonymous with country. When the Constitution was written each of these states acted in its own sovereign capacity to decide whether or not to join the union. None of them had to.

 

Indeed, George Washington had already been sworn in as president and the first congress was already in session before Rhode Island decided to join. The Constitution specifically gives some powers to the federal government and explicitly reserves all other powers to the states. Based on all this it could reasonably be argued that the states still possessed the sovereign power to withdraw from a union they had entered voluntarily.

 

The Southern states put this theory to the test by attempting to secede. The political reason for their secession was to protect the institution of slavery which they saw as threatened by the new Republican party.

 

Slavery was AN ISSUE, but not THE CAUSE. Slavery would have eventually been abolished for economic reasons without the war. There were some in the North who truly saw slavery as an evil that should be abolished, but the majority was not so vehemently opposed to it. Only a very small percentage in the South owned more than one or two slaves and therefore had an economic interest in maintaining the status quo. Actually, only 5% owned even one slave. Mothers would not send their sons to die to free the slaves or maintain the plantations labor supply. I have read a few Yankee Civil War diaries and NONE said they were fighting to free the slaves. The most common reasons for joining were to preserve the Union and, in Bloody Kansas, revenge for raids by the Missouri pro-slavery forces. I'll admit that I haven't found any Rebel diaries, but I doubt if many said they were fighting to preserve slavery.

 

With a larger population (20 million vs 5 million citizens plus 4 million slaves), the Northern states controlled the House of Representatives. With a larger number of states (19 vs 11), the North controlled the Senate. The South had an agricultural economy, primarily from exporting cotton. EXPORTS of agricultural products were taxed, keeping prices low. The North had an industrial economy. IMPORTS of finished products were taxed, inflating the value of industrial output. 85% of the US budget was from taxes collected in the Southern states. With the Missouri Compromise and the Kansas-Nebraska Act, the South saw their power in the Federal government being reduced even further. The primary cause of the Civil War was the same as the justification of the American Revolution "Taxation without representation.".

[RoyalOrleans]

States rights? That was the belief at the time. It became and is a civil rights issue and rightfully so and not for just blacks.

 

You're only alive and well in Alaska because of your land's oil and adjacency to Mother Russia.

[wez]

I agree.. I'm sure it was a lot more than just slavery... My family tree traces directly to this patriot founding father. He turned out to be quite right about the federal government becoming too powerful and was smart to oppose the constitution.. Staunch anti-federalist til death.. Mysterious, untimely one at that..

 

 

 

John Hanson, American Patriot and First President of the United States

(1715-1783)

 

 

He was the heir of one of the greatest family traditions in the colonies and became the patriarch of a long line of American patriots – his great-grandfather died at Lutzen beside the great King Gustavus Aldophus of Sweden; his grandfather was one of the founders of New Sweden along the Delaware River in Maryland; one of his nephews was the military secretary to George Washington; another was a signer of the Declaration; still another was a signer of the Constitution; yet another was Governor of Maryland during the Revolution; and still another was a member of the first Congress; two sons were killed in action with the Continental Army; a grandson served as a member of Congress under the new Constitution; and another grandson was a Maryland Senator. Thus, even if Hanson had not served as President himself, he would have greatly contributed to the life of the nation through his ancestry and progeny.

 

As a youngster he began a self-guided reading of classics and rather quickly became an acknowledged expert in the juridicalism of Anselm and the practical philosophy of Seneca – both of which were influential in the development of the political philosophy of the great leaders of the Reformation. It was based upon these legal and theological studies that the young planter – his farm, Mulberry Grove was just across the Potomac from Mount Vernon – began to espouse the cause of the patriots.

 

In 1775 he was elected to the Provincial Legislature of Maryland. Then in 1777, he became a member of Congress where he distinguished himself as a brilliant administrator. Thus, he was elected President in 1781. Was John Hanson the first President of the United States?

 

The new country was actually formed on March 1, 1781 with the adoption of The Articles of Confederation. This document was actually proposed on June 11, 1776, but not agreed upon by Congress until November 15, 1777. Maryland refused to sign this document until Virginia and New York ceded their western lands (Maryland was afraid that these states would gain too much power in the new government from such large amounts of land). Once the signing took place in 1781, a President was needed to run the country. John Hanson was chosen unanimously by Congress (which included George Washington). In fact, all the other potential candidates refused to run against him, as he was a major player in the Revolution and an extremely influential member of Congress.

 

As the first President, Hanson had quite the shoes to fill. No one had ever been President and the role was poorly defined. His actions in office would set precedent for all future Presidents. He took office just as the Revolutionary War ended. Almost immediately, the troops demanded to be paid. As would be expected after any long war, there were no funds to meet the salaries. As a result, the soldiers threatened to overthrow the new government and put Washington on the throne as a monarch. All the members of Congress ran for their lives, leaving Hanson running the government. He somehow managed to calm the troops and hold the country together. If he had failed, the government would have fallen almost immediately and everyone would have been bowing to King Washington.

 

Hanson, as President, ordered all foreign troops off American soil, as well as the removal of all foreign flags. This was quite a feat, considering the fact that so many European countries had a stake in the United States since the days following Columbus. Hanson established the Great Seal of the United States, which all Presidents have since been required to use on all official documents. President Hanson also established the first Treasury Department, the first Secretary of War, and the first Foreign Affairs Department. Lastly, he declared that the fourth Thursday of every November was to be Thanksgiving Day, which is still true today.

 

The Articles of Confederation only allowed a President to serve a one-year term during any three-year period, so Hanson actually accomplished quite a bit in such little time. He served in that office from November 5, 1781 until November 3, 1782. He was the first President to serve a full term after the full ratification of the Articles of Confederation – and like so many of the Southern and New England Founders, he was strongly opposed to the Constitution when it was first discussed. He remained a confirmed anti-federalist until his untimely death.

 

Six other presidents were elected after him - Elias Boudinot (1783), Thomas Mifflin (1784), Richard Henry Lee (1785), Nathan Gorman (1786), Arthur St. Clair (1787), and Cyrus Griffin (1788) - all prior to Washington taking office. Why don't we ever hear about the first seven Presidents of the United States? It's quite simple - The Articles of Confederation didn't work well. The individual states had too much power and nothing could be agreed upon. A new doctrine needed to be written - something we know as the Constitution.

 

George Washington was definitely not the first President of the United States. He was the first President of the United States under the Constitution we follow today. And the first seven Presidents are forgotten in history.

 

 

 

 

 

John Hanson, First President

 

John Hanson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

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