snafu Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 HARTFORD, Conn. ? A 78-year-old man is tossed like a rag doll by a hit-and-run driver and lies motionless on a busy city street as car after car goes by. Pedestrians gawk but appear to do nothing. One driver stops briefly but then pulls back into traffic. A man on a scooter slowly circles the victim before zipping away. This crap infuriates the hell out of me! People can just idly walk by someone lying in the street. It?s on youtube too. city's biggest newspaper blaring "SO INHUMANE" on the front page and the police chief lamenting: "We no longer have a moral compass." Ya think? FOXNews.com - Video of Gruesome Hit-and-Run Released by Connecticut Police - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
wez Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 This crap infuriates the hell out of me! People can just idly walk by someone lying in the street. It?s on youtube too. Ya think? FOXNews.com - Video of Gruesome Hit-and-Run Released by Connecticut Police - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News Funny someone didn't stop long enough to take a leak on him too.. How could that happen? Quote
ImWithStupid Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 It looks to me like people are gathering around. Maybe they didn't know what to do, then again in todays world I wouldn't be surprised if they were talking about taking his wallet. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHXC_nqFb4g]YouTube - Hit & Run Driver Runs Over 78-Year-Old Man[/ame] Quote
wez Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 ... then again in todays world I wouldn't be surprised if they were talking about taking his wallet. Hahahahaha... Poor guy, damn.. Quote
snafu Posted June 6, 2008 Author Posted June 6, 2008 It looks to me like people are gathering around. Maybe they didn't know what to do, then again in todays world I wouldn't be surprised if they were talking about taking his wallet. YouTube - Hit & Run Driver Runs Over 78-Year-Old Man I haven't seen the video yet but how about stopping the traffic? How about making sure he's breathing? How about just asking "hay dude? You OK". But then again I haven't seen the video. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
wez Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 I haven't seen the video yet but how about stopping the traffic? How about making sure he's breathing? How about just asking "hay dude? You OK". But then again I haven't seen the video. Just watched it.. short and disturbing. Quote
ImWithStupid Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 I haven't seen the video yet but how about stopping the traffic? How about making sure he's breathing? How about just asking "hay dude? You OK". But then again I haven't seen the video. Sad thing is that in todays "sue happy" society and questionable diseases strangers may have, many people are scared to do anything. That is one of the main reasons that they are changing CPR to only chest compressions and no breaths. People didn't want to do the mouth to mouth so they didn't do anything. They decided that there is something like 5 or 10 minutes of oxygen in the blood stream and they would rather people did something than do nothing. If you can get people to do chest compressions it's better than nothing at all, until EMTs or an ambulance arrives. Quote
wez Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 Sad thing is that in todays "sue happy" society and questionable diseases strangers may have, many people are scared to do anything. That is one of the main reasons that they are changing CPR to only chest compressions and no breaths. People didn't want to do the mouth to mouth so they didn't do anything. They decided that there is something like 5 or 10 minutes of oxygen in the blood stream and they would rather people did something than do nothing. If you can get people to do chest compressions it's better than nothing at all, until EMTs or an ambulance arrives. It is a sad state of affairs.. Quote
emkay64 Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 This crap infuriates the hell out of me! People can just idly walk by someone lying in the street. It?s on youtube too. Ya think? FOXNews.com - Video of Gruesome Hit-and-Run Released by Connecticut Police - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News Sheesh! I thought I was culling the herd. You just can't make anyone happy these days. Quote
Old Salt Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 In some Arab countries, they have a three-minute rule. They don't do anything for the first three minutes for the victim because if Allah wants the victim, he'll take him within that time frame. After three minutes they work like hell to save the victim's life. I've heard this story several times but it may be complete BS. Quote
snafu Posted June 6, 2008 Author Posted June 6, 2008 Sheesh! I thought I was culling the herd. You just can't make anyone happy these days. We can start culling the herd with the hit and run driver! Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
Guest sheik-yerbouti Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 The psychological explanation for no one helping, is that there were many people around. Everyone there thought that someone else will do what needs to be done - ie, call an ambulance. The victim would have a better chance of assistance if there was only one onlooker. A lone onlooker would know that they had to phone the ambulance, or it would not get done. There was an infamous case once, where a woman was battered to death, AND about 30 people heard what was going on. No one did anything. They all believed that someone else would surely do something. Quote
snafu Posted June 6, 2008 Author Posted June 6, 2008 I've told this story before but I wittnessed a motorcycle accedent once. Although I was behind two other cars I threw my car into a lower gear and jumped out hitting the car in front of me. I ran to the scence and for a split second I just stared down. But I knew I had to do something. There was a crowd of people all ready standing around watching him burn. If I hadn't screamed for help to remove the bike off of him and that one person didn't come forward to help, he would've died. But everybody else just stood and watched me extinguish him with my shirt. I could never stand by idol while someone was in need. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
Old Salt Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 In a crisis, most people are sheep and look for a leader. You notice you had to demand help. My guess is that if you told someone to call an ambulance, they would have. Quote
ImWithStupid Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 This crap infuriates the hell out of me! People can just idly walk by someone lying in the street. It’s on youtube too. Ya think? FOXNews.com - Video of Gruesome Hit-and-Run Released by Connecticut Police - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News Here's the answer to your question snaf... California Supreme Court Allows Good Sameritans to be Sued for Nonmedical Care The ruling stems from a case in which a woman pulled a crash victim from a car 'like a rag doll,' allegedly aggravating a vertebrae injury. By Carol J. Williams December 19, 2008 Being a good Samaritan in California just got a little riskier. The California Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a young woman who pulled a co-worker from a crashed vehicle isn't immune from civil liability because the care she rendered wasn't medical. The divided high court appeared to signal that rescue efforts are the responsibility of trained professionals. It was also thought to be the first ruling by the court that someone who intervened in an accident in good faith could be sued. Lisa Torti of Northridge allegedly worsened the injuries suffered by Alexandra Van Horn by yanking her "like a rag doll" from the wrecked car on Topanga Canyon Boulevard. Torti now faces possible liability for injuries suffered by Van Horn, a fellow department store cosmetician who was rendered a paraplegic in the accident that ended a night of Halloween revelry in 2004. But in a sharp dissent, three of the seven justices said that by making a distinction between medical care and emergency response, the court was placing "an arbitrary and unreasonable limitation" on protections for those trying to help. In 1980, the Legislature enacted the Health and Safety Code, which provides that "no person who in good faith, and not for compensation, renders emergency care at the scene of an emergency shall be liable for any civil damages resulting from any act or omission." Although that passage does not use the word "medical" in describing the protected emergency care, it was included in the section of the code that deals with emergency medical services. By placing it there, lawmakers intended to shield "only those persons who in good faith render emergency medical care at the scene of a medical emergency," Justice Carlos R. Moreno wrote for the majority. California Supreme Court allows good Samaritans to be sued for nonmedical care - Los Angeles Times Can a Good Samaritan Be Sued? on Yahoo! Video Quote
snafu Posted December 21, 2008 Author Posted December 21, 2008 Here's the answer to your question snaf... California Supreme Court Allows Good Sameritans to be Sued for Nonmedical Care The ruling stems from a case in which a woman pulled a crash victim from a car 'like a rag doll,' allegedly aggravating a vertebrae injury. By Carol J. Williams December 19, 2008 Being a good Samaritan in California just got a little riskier. The California Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a young woman who pulled a co-worker from a crashed vehicle isn't immune from civil liability because the care she rendered wasn't medical. The divided high court appeared to signal that rescue efforts are the responsibility of trained professionals. It was also thought to be the first ruling by the court that someone who intervened in an accident in good faith could be sued. Lisa Torti of Northridge allegedly worsened the injuries suffered by Alexandra Van Horn by yanking her "like a rag doll" from the wrecked car on Topanga Canyon Boulevard. Torti now faces possible liability for injuries suffered by Van Horn, a fellow department store cosmetician who was rendered a paraplegic in the accident that ended a night of Halloween revelry in 2004. But in a sharp dissent, three of the seven justices said that by making a distinction between medical care and emergency response, the court was placing "an arbitrary and unreasonable limitation" on protections for those trying to help. In 1980, the Legislature enacted the Health and Safety Code, which provides that "no person who in good faith, and not for compensation, renders emergency care at the scene of an emergency shall be liable for any civil damages resulting from any act or omission." Although that passage does not use the word "medical" in describing the protected emergency care, it was included in the section of the code that deals with emergency medical services. By placing it there, lawmakers intended to shield "only those persons who in good faith render emergency medical care at the scene of a medical emergency," Justice Carlos R. Moreno wrote for the majority. California Supreme Court allows good Samaritans to be sued for nonmedical care - Los Angeles Times Can a Good Samaritan Be Sued? on Yahoo! Video I can see sometimes someone could make the situation worse but as this law states it was in good faith. When I pulled this guy from the wreck I grabbed his broken leg. I don't know if I made his injuries any worse but he would've died if I had not pulled him from the burning bike, put out the flames connecting him to the bike and then throwing myself on him with my shirt I tore off. I had to roll him around three times because he kept going up in flames. But if you find someone thats been in an accident and there are no immediate actions necessary you don't want to move him or her other than making sure their breathing and not bleeding. Yet another mandatory class that should be given in school. Gun safety and first aid. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
wez Posted December 21, 2008 Posted December 21, 2008 After I graduate I'll be obligated to stop and help people.. I could theoretically get sued if I didn't.. and get sued if do.. Strange world. People are dumbasses. Quote
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