Man Stabbed & Decapitated on Bus

[Chi]

A bit of an update...

 

Yup, there ya' go. He was small, young and distracted. What a piece of , the other guy.

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

What I hate is when the fuller story comes out. The purp has probably a history of violence.

 

It makes me wonder if it is appropriate to only jail someone as a punishment for a crime.

 

Might we not jail someone with a history of extreme violence for the rest of his life as a means of ensuring he cannot commit further offences ?

 

I know thats extreme, but if someone has to have their life ruined surely it should be vicious crazies, and not people like this poor guy on the bus.

 

Do you know the race of the purp yet ?

[ImWithStupid]

What I hate is when the fuller story comes out. The purp has probably a history of violence.

 

That's like this story...

 

Dead Army vaccine scientist eyed in anthrax probe

 

By MATT APUZZO and LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writers

6 minutes ago

 

WASHINGTON - An Army scientist committed suicide before federal prosecutors could charge him with mailing anthrax-laced letters in the weeks following the Sept. 11 terror attacks. Authorities said Friday the letters may have been part of a warped plan to test his vaccine for the deadly poison.

 

The scientist, Bruce E. Ivins, worked at the Army's biological warfare labs at Ft. Detrick, Md., for 18 years until his death on Tuesday. He had a long history of homicidal threats, according to papers recently filed in local court by a social worker.

 

Why the hell would they let someone with a history of homicidal threats work in an Army Bio-warfare lab?

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[Old Salt]

What I hate is when the fuller story comes out. The purp has probably a history of violence.

 

It makes me wonder if it is appropriate to only jail someone as a punishment for a crime.

 

Might we not jail someone with a history of extreme violence for the rest of his life as a means of ensuring he cannot commit further offences ?

 

I know thats extreme, but if someone has to have their life ruined surely it should be vicious crazies, and not people like this poor guy on the bus.

 

Do you know the race of the purp yet ?

I don't see what the race of the perp matters. My guess is he's a crazy white man (this did happen in Canada ).

[ImWithStupid]

I don't see what the race of the perp matters. My guess is he's a crazy white man (this did happen in Canada ).

 

It doesn't make a difference, but I too was wondering what his ethnicity/heritige/family origin, what have you, with the name, "Vince Weiguang Li".

 

It doesn't matter, just curious.

[Chi]

What I hate is when the fuller story comes out. The purp has probably a history of violence.

 

It makes me wonder if it is appropriate to only jail someone as a punishment for a crime.

 

Might we not jail someone with a history of extreme violence for the rest of his life as a means of ensuring he cannot commit further offences ?

 

I know thats extreme, but if someone has to have their life ruined surely it should be vicious crazies, and not people like this poor guy on the bus.

 

Do you know the race of the purp yet ?

 

"Vince Weiguang Li"- sounds Asian. Keeping these scumbags in jail costs money. Why should we spend our tax money on housing, feeding, clothing and entertaining them with stuff some of us don't even have for ourselves (like gyms, cable, etc.)? If they can't be reformed, put them down like the creatures that they are/have become.

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

That's like this story...

 

 

 

Why the hell would they let someone with a history of homicidal threats work in an Army Bio-warfare lab?

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I just cannot imagine, but I suppose there is an important difference between threat makers and those who follow them up with violence

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

If they can't be reformed, put them down like the creatures that they are/have become.

 

Thats exactly how I see it.

 

But I'd go further. I would seek to discover these weirdos by all means possible. Why not try to identify them before they commence their criminal careers ?

 

I once read something a primary school teacher said. She said that she knew which kids would grow up to be no good. It made me think that teachers, nurses, doctors etc should have access to a collection of files, where their suspicions could be logged. It might aid the police in the years that followed

 

An invasion of privacy yes. But we must expect this if we are to contend with criminals

[Old Salt]

Thats exactly how I see it.

 

But I'd go further. I would seek to discover these weirdos by all means possible. Why not try to identify them before they commence their criminal careers ?

 

I once read something a primary school teacher said. She said that she knew which kids would grow up to be no good. It made me think that teachers, nurses, doctors etc should have access to a collection of files, where their suspicions could be logged. It might aid the police in the years that followed

 

An invasion of privacy yes. But we must expect this if we are to contend with criminals

I don't know. I think that's just a bit too much Big Brother-ish for me. My younger brother could have been identified as such before he turned himself around.

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

I don't know. I think that's just a bit too much Big Brother-ish for me. My younger brother could have been identified as such before he turned himself around.

 

I'd be happy to loose some privacy in a trade off with being less likely to be stabbed, robbed etc.

 

The UK now seems a violent place, relative to how it was 30 years ago.

[Old Salt]

I'd be happy to loose some privacy in a trade off with being less likely to be stabbed, robbed etc.

 

The UK now seems a violent place, relative to how it was 30 years ago.

 

I don't know. I think that's just a bit too much Big Brother-ish for me. My younger brother could have been identified as such before he turned himself around.

I think you missed the point on my post. Not all "bad" children turn out like that when they grow up. I think the percentage that do is very small. But that's just my opinion.

[eddo]

A bit of an update...

 

Authorities have not released the victim's name but The Canadian Press said friends had identified him as Tim McLean and said he was headed to Winnipeg after working with the carnival in Edmonton.

 

William Caron, 23, said McLean was quiet, though he liked to socialize with friends. He was small ? about 5-foot-4 and 130 pounds ? and tended stayed away from a fight, Caron said.

 

Whoda thought the carnie would be the one getting his head lopped off?? Is this bizzarro world?

[Chi]

Thats exactly how I see it.

 

But I'd go further. I would seek to discover these weirdos by all means possible. Why not try to identify them before they commence their criminal careers ?

 

I once read something a primary school teacher said. She said that she knew which kids would grow up to be no good. It made me think that teachers, nurses, doctors etc should have access to a collection of files, where their suspicions could be logged. It might aid the police in the years that followed

 

An invasion of privacy yes. But we must expect this if we are to contend with criminals

 

Absolutely. It's not like these people turn crazy over night. There are signs if you pay attention. I told this story before over at TJ, about this little who gave my son a black eye just because he thought my son took his keys (which of course he later he found.) This ghetto kid is about 3 or 4 years older than my son (my son was 8 at the time), obviously bigger and a bully. He has assaulted other kids at the school as well. One he assaulted by filling a tube sock with rocks and messed up the kid really bad. He has also gotten in trouble for grabbing a girl's butt and I'm sure the list goes on, these are only the ones that I know about.

 

He is finally now kicked out of the school and in a Juvenile Home. If that little demon doesn't straighten out soon, I'm sure he will end up dead, maimed or in and out of prison.

[ImWithStupid]

I'd be happy to loose some privacy in a trade off with being less likely to be stabbed, robbed etc.

 

The UK now seems a violent place, relative to how it was 30 years ago.

 

Not me.

 

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin

 

Once you start giving up rights to government, it's easier for them to take more.

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

I think you missed the point on my post. Not all "bad" children turn out like that when they grow up. I think the percentage that do is very small. But that's just my opinion.

 

Well Sir, Neither your brother nor you, would have anything to worry about in view of my proposal.

 

Health care professionals and the police, would merely be interested in your brother's development and attitude. No state interference would be necessary in the absence of obvious criminal inclination.

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

I don't see what the race of the perp matters. My guess is he's a crazy white man (this did happen in Canada ).

 

 

I'm an ameteur psychology sleuth. I'm interested in the differences between people, genders, groups and races. Nothing more.

 

He may be white or asian, but he may also be black. I'm just interested.

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

Absolutely. It's not like these people turn crazy over night. There are signs if you pay attention. I told this story before over at TJ, about this little who gave my son a black eye just because he thought my son took his keys (which of course he later he found.) This ghetto kid is about 3 or 4 years older than my son (my son was 8 at the time), obviously bigger and a bully. He has assaulted other kids at the school as well. One he assaulted by filling a tube sock with rocks and messed up the kid really bad. He has also gotten in trouble for grabbing a girl's butt and I'm sure the list goes on, these are only the ones that I know about.

 

He is finally now kicked out of the school and in a Juvenile Home. If that little demon doesn't straighten out soon, I'm sure he will end up dead, maimed or in and out of prison.

 

Chi, this kid is not going to straighten out soon. He is not wired as you and I are wired. He cannot empathise with others. I may be wrong here.

 

My prediction here is that he will commence a life of crime, beginning about age 10. It wont be much at first, but the seriousness of his offence will increase. He will be treated leniently. He will take this as encouragement. For him- what is there to fear ? Eventually he will maybe rape or kill. Then, he will be treated severely.

 

It would be better for him and his victims if you flogged his useless arse when he was ten years old in front of all his friends, family and school mates. It would have made a considerable difference. Instead, we get to endure the jerks behaviour until he really does go over the top.

 

Its sad, but the liberals are running the show. And this is the way it will be, until they are removed.

[Guest sheik-yerbouti]

Not me.

 

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin

 

Once you start giving up rights to government, it's easier for them to take more.

 

Liberty and privacy are different things .

[ImWithStupid]

Liberty and privacy are different things .

 

Not in the US.

 

Fourth Amendment

 

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

 

This is too big to post...

 

THE PRIVACY ACT OF 1974

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[Chi]

Chi, this kid is not going to straighten out soon. He is not wired as you and I are wired. He cannot empathise with others. I may be wrong here.

 

My prediction here is that he will commence a life of crime, beginning about age 10. It wont be much at first, but the seriousness of his offence will increase. He will be treated leniently. He will take this as encouragement. For him- what is there to fear ? Eventually he will maybe rape or kill. Then, he will be treated severely.

 

It would be better for him and his victims if you flogged his useless arse when he was ten years old in front of all his friends, family and school mates. It would have made a considerable difference. Instead, we get to endure the jerks behaviour until he really does go over the top.

 

Its sad, but the liberals are running the show. And this is the way it will be, until they are removed.

 

He's about 12 or 13yrs old, but I'm sure started being a little s h i t at much younger. Him and his younger brother were taken away from their mother because she was/is a prostitute and a druggie. Who knows where the father is at.

 

Since the school didn't do or want to do anything for what he did to my son because it wasn't on school grounds, but at an afterschool program. Nor would they comply to give me his mother's number, I sent my younger brother to put him in his place, but he managed to get himself sent to Juvy about a week later. If I ever see or hear about that little s h i t again I'm still going to remember what he did...

 

The school my kids attend is not a bad school especially considering it's in the city, it's just some of the kids that get bussed there from a nearby foster place. Those are some bad ass kids (and not in a good way.)

[Old Salt]

OK, this is now "officially" sick. There is no redemption (IMO). It's either death or a padded cell for the rest of his life. What do you think the bleeding hearts will do?

 

Bus Killer Allegedly Ate Victim's Flesh - AOL News

 

TORONTO (Aug. 2) - A police officer at the scene of a fatal stabbing on a Canadian bus reported seeing the attacker hacking off pieces of the victim's body and eating them, according to a police tape leaked on the Internet Saturday.

[Chi]

OK, this is now "officially" sick. There is no redemption (IMO). It's either death or a padded cell for the rest of his life. What do you think the bleeding hearts will do?

 

Bus Killer Allegedly Ate Victim's Flesh - AOL News

 

Yikes, just when you thought it couldn't get worse... I'm thinking this is not the first time this thing has committed such atrocious acts. This is like straight out of a gruesome, horror movie.

[hugo]

It doesn't sound like anyone tried to stop the psycho, or help the guy being stabbed. I find that almost as horrible as the stabbing itself.

 

I agree. I mean there are times you have to take some personal risk. I am betting it was mainly French-Canadians on that bus.

[Chi]

Here's pictures of the poor guy- Victim's Family to Speak Saturday - AOL News Canada and his MySpace page- MySpace.com - JoKAwiLd - 22 - Male - Winnipeg, CA - www.myspace.com/108390479

[Anna Perenna]

I agree. I mean there are times you have to take some personal risk. I am betting it was mainly French-Canadians on that bus.

 

Hehe.

 

I also figure a busload of people could have overpowered him without incurring too much personal harm (ie - a lot of people get stabbed once each and live, as opposed to one person being stabbed to death).