ImWithStupid Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 Even though Bush wouldn't take sides, the Supreme Court did the right thing and Texas executed a complete waste of space. I'm glad he isn't using up my air. Mexican-born killer put to death in Texas By MICHAEL GRACZYK, Associated Press Writer 1 minute ago HUNTSVILLE, Texas - With the parents of his victims watching a few feet away, a Mexican-born condemned killer apologized before he was executed for his part in a horrific attack on two teenage girls 15 years ago. "I'm sorry my actions caused you pain," Jose Medellin told the teens' parents late Tuesday. "I hope this brings you the closure that you seek." Nine minutes later, Medellin was pronounced dead. His execution, the fifth this year in Texas, was delayed for about four hours while the U.S. Supreme Court weighed his appeal. "It's been a long night," Randy Ertman, whose daughter was killed by Medellin and five other gang members, said after watching the 33-year-old man receive lethal injection. The appeal to the nation's highest court focused on whether Medellin was denied treaty-guaranteed help from the Mexican consulate when he was arrested. The court rejected his request for a reprieve, with the majority opinion noting that the Justice Department had not sought the court's intervention. Mexican-born killer put to death in Texas - Yahoo! News Quote
Guest sheik-yerbouti Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 No sympathy at all. If someones goes out to kill, for no good reason then I say just kill the trash. Some homicides are different though. Like killing in self defence, or as a response to years of spousal abuse. There are probably a few more examples. Not everyone agrees of course. You are entitled to disagree. I only know that once killed, the weirdo will not re offend. The re offence rate, is zero. Let him out sometime later, and he may do it again. I am sick of reading about recidivists Quote
ImWithStupid Posted August 6, 2008 Author Posted August 6, 2008 A bit about what Medellin was a part of... The Murders of Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena What happened... Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena were 14 and 16 years old, respectively. They were friends who attended the same high school in Houston, Texas, Waltrip High School. On June 24, 1993, the girls spent the day together....and then died together. They were last seen by friends about 11:15 at night, when they left a friend's apartment to head home, to beat summer curfew at 11:30. They knew they would be late if they took the normal path home, down W. 34th Street to T.C. Jester, both busy streets. They also knew they would have to pass a sexually-oriented business on that route and so decided to take a well-known shortcut down a railroad track and through a city park to Elizabeth's neighborhood. The next morning, the girls parents began to frantically look for them, paging them on their pagers, calling their friends to see if they knew where they were, to no avail. The families filed missing persons reports with the Houston Police Department and continued to look for the girls on their own. The Ertmans and Penas gathered friends and neighbors to help them pass out a huge stack of fliers with the girls' pictures all over the Houston area, even giving them to newspaper vendors on the roadside. Four days after the girls disappeared, a person identifying himself as 'Gonzalez' called the Crimestoppers Tips number. He told the call taker that the missing girls' bodies could be found near T.C. Jester Park at White Oak bayou. The police were sent to the scene and searched the park without finding anything. The police helicopter was flying over the park and this apparently prompted Mr. 'Gonzalez' to make a 911 call, directing the search to move to the other side of the bayou. When the police followed this suggestion, they found the badly decaying bodies of Jenny and Elizabeth. Jennifer Ertman's dad, Randy Ertman, was about to give an interview regarding the missing girls to a local television reporter when the call came over a cameraman's police scanner that two bodies had been found. Randy commandeered the news van and went to the scene that was now bustling with police activity. Randy Ertman appeared on the local news that evening, screaming at the police officers who were struggling to hold him back, "Does she have blond hair? Does she have blond hair?!!?" Fortunately, they did manage to keep Randy from entering the woods and seeing his daughter's brutalized body and that of her friend Elizabeth, but they were unable to escape that fate themselves. I saw hardened, lifelong cops get tears in their eyes when talking about the scene more than a year later. The bodies were very badly decomposed, even for four days in Houston's brutal summer heat and humidity, particularly in the head, neck and genital areas. The medical examiner later testified that this is how she could be sure as to the horrible brutality of the rapes, beatings and murders. The break in solving the case came from, of course, the 911 call. It was traced to the home of the brother of one of the men later sentenced to death for these murders. When the police questioned 'Gonzalez', he said that he had made the original call at his 16 year-old wife's urging. She felt sorry for the families and wanted them to be able to put their daughters' bodies to rest. 'Gonzalez' said that his brother was one of the six people involved in killing the girls, and gave police the names of all but one, the new recruit, whom he did not know. His knowledge of the crimes came from the killers themselves, most of whom came to his home after the murders, bragging and swapping the jewelry they had stolen from the girls. While Jenny and Elizabeth were living the last few hours of their lives, Peter Cantu, Efrain Perez, Derrick Sean O'Brien, Joe Medellin and Joe's 14 year old brother were initiating a new member, Raul Villareal, into their gang, known as the Black and Whites. Raul was an acquaintance of Efrain and was not known to the other gang members. They had spent the evening drinking beer and then "jumping in" Raul. This means that the new member was required to fight every member of the gang until he passed out and then he would be accepted as a member. Testimony showed that Raul lasted through three of the members before briefly losing consciousness. The gang continued drinking and 'shooting the breeze' for some time and then decided to leave. Two brothers who had been with them but testified that they were not in the gang left first and passed Jenny and Elizabeth, who were unknowingly walking towards their deaths. When Peter Cantu saw Jenny and Elizabeth, he thought it was a man and a woman and told the other gang members that he wanted to jump him and beat him up. He was frustrated that he had been the one who was unable to fight Raul. The gang members ran and grabbed Elizabeth and pulled her down the incline, off of the tracks. Testimony showed that Jenny had gotten free and could have run away but returned to Elizabeth when she cried out for Jenny to help her. For the next hour or so, these beautiful, innocent young girls were subjected to the most brutal gang rapes that most of the investigating officers had ever encountered. The confessions of the gang members that were used at trial indicated that there was never less than 2 men on each of the girls at any one time and that the girls were repeatedly raped orally, anally and vaginally for the entire hour. One of the gang members later said during the brag session that by the time he got to one of the girls, "she was loose and sloppy." One of the boys boasted of having 'virgin blood' on him. The 14-year-old juvenile later testified that he had gone back and forth between his brother and Peter Cantu since they were the only ones there that he really knew and kept urging them to leave. He said he was told repeatedly by Peter Cantu to "get some". He raped Jennifer and was later sentenced to 40 years for aggravated sexual assault, which was the maximum sentence for a juvenile. When the rapes finally ended, the horror was not over. The gang members took Jenny and Elizabeth from the clearing into a wooded area, leaving the juvenile behind, saying he was "too little to watch". Jenny was strangled with the belt of Sean O'Brien, with two murderers pulling, one on each side, until the belt broke. Part of the belt was left at the murder scene, the rest was found in O'Brien's home. After the belt broke, the killers used her own shoelaces to finish their job. Medellin later complained that "the bitch wouldn't die" and that it would have been "easier with a gun". Elizabeth was also strangled with her shoelaces, after crying and begging the gang members not to kill them; bargaining, offering to give them her phone number so they could get together again. The medical examiner testified that Elizabeth's two front teeth were knocked out of her brutalized mouth before she died and that two of Jennifer's ribs were broken after she had died. Testimony showed that the girls' bodies were kicked and their necks were stomped on after the strangulations in order to "make sure that they were really dead." Jennifer Ertman & Elizabeth Pena - murder victims This is the type of scum that needs to be put to death. Quote
atlantic Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 I'd like to know where in the fukk are the parents of these gang members, are they not aware of their kids activities. Do they not give a ? What a waste of life. Sickening sick f s. Quote Do the right thing!
Chi Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 No sympathy at all. If someones goes out to kill, for no good reason then I say just kill the trash. Some homicides are different though. Like killing in self defence, or as a response to years of spousal abuse. There are probably a few more examples. Not everyone agrees of course. You are entitled to disagree. I only know that once killed, the weirdo will not re offend. The re offence rate, is zero. Let him out sometime later, and he may do it again. I am sick of reading about recidivists TOTALLY agree! This also, regarding pedos, rapists, etc. Quote
emkay64 Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 The worst part of all of that is knowing that during the most grotesque and painful moment in your childs life, you as a parent were unaware and not there to help. I just can't imagine. The punishment should fit the crime. Lethal injection is what we give to animals who have been loyal and wonderful companions. Those douche nozzles should be flayed alive and then ass raped with a stick full of slivers until death. 1 Quote
Guest sheik-yerbouti Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 The worst part of all of that is knowing that during the most grotesque and painful moment in your childs life, you as a parent were unaware and not there to help. I just can't imagine. The punishment should fit the crime. Lethal injection is what we give to animals who have been loyal and wonderful companions. Those douche nozzles should be flayed alive and then ass raped with a stick full of slivers until death. I hate crims. I believe that they should die horribly as their victims did. Imagine being 14. Imagine some monster forcing his way into her body. Most rape victims have awful internal injuries. Its not just rape, its torture. I favour impalement, Turkish style. Let his own body weight force him slowly down onto a piece of timber inserted in his arse, until he is split in two. Why shouldn't he be raped and left in unspeakable agonies, until the -bag dies. Better still, do it in the prison exercise yard so all the other douche bags get to see that we've had enough Quote
Old Salt Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 I hate crims. I believe that they should die horribly as their victims did. Imagine being 14. Imagine some monster forcing his way into her body. Most rape victims have awful internal injuries. Its not just rape, its torture. I favour impalement, Turkish style. Let his own body weight force him slowly down onto a piece of timber inserted in his arse, until he is split in two. Why shouldn't he be raped and left in unspeakable agonies, until the -bag dies. Better still, do it in the prison exercise yard so all the other douche bags get to see that we've had enoughAbout Vlad the Impaler (the man not the hamster) The word Voevod means Warlord-Prince. For those of you who aren't familiar with the historical figure of Vlad the Impaler, he was the prince of Wallachia during the time of the Ottoman Empire's attempts to take over parts of Eastern Europe in the 1400's. He helped John Hunyadi, the white knight, to defend their homelands from the turkish advances. He was the basis for the character Dracula. Quote
emkay64 Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 About Vlad the Impaler (the man not the hamster) I was reading recently about Elizabeth Bathory. She murdered 600 girls in the 16th century. She bled them all, and bathed in their blood to preserve her youth. Apparently she is the one that Dracula was based on not Vlad the Impaler as was thought. I always thought it seemed much more likely that vampire lore originated with women Quote
Old Salt Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 I was reading recently about Elizabeth Bathory. She murdered 600 girls in the 16th century. She bled them all, and bathed in their blood to preserve her youth. Apparently she is the one that Dracula was based on not Vlad the Impaler as was thought. I always thought it seemed much more likely that vampire lore originated with women From my experience with my ex-wives, they're ALL bloodsuckers. Quote
ImWithStupid Posted August 6, 2008 Author Posted August 6, 2008 From my experience with my ex-wives, they're ALL bloodsuckers. Women and lawyers. Quote
emkay64 Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 From my experience with my ex-wives, they're ALL bloodsuckers. I new that was coming. I left the door wide open didn't I Quote
Guest sheik-yerbouti Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 He was the basis for the character Dracula. His head as really messy Quote
Guest sheik-yerbouti Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 I was reading recently about Elizabeth Bathory. She murdered 600 girls in the 16th century. She bled them all, and bathed in their blood to preserve her youth. Apparently she is the one that Dracula was based on not Vlad the Impaler as was thought. I always thought it seemed much more likely that vampire lore originated with women I.ve read about her too. I dont know if she did this, and she's not here to defend herself, but its a ghastly story allright. Quote
emkay64 Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 It is true. The history was derived from personal diaries. I think in some accounts the details are skewed, but she was put to death for her crimes. Google it. There is a lot of information about her. Very interesting. I love gory european history Quote
Old Salt Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 I new that was coming. I left the door wide open didn't I Yup.:D:D Of course you know I'm being facetious. Don't you? Quote
emkay64 Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 Yup.:D:D Of course you know I'm being facetious. Don't you? Of course However, men need to be more specific. When they say "suck me dry", they need to say if they want it literally or allegorically Quote
Old Salt Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 (edited) Of course However, men need to be more specific. When they say "suck me dry", they need to say if they want it literally or allegorically . Edited April 2, 2016 by rem Quote
emkay64 Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 Holy Crap! I thought that was me for a second. I am sooooo glad it isn't. I don't do the beer bottle trick...I use a wine bottle Whew! Seriously OS...I really thought it was me, as it was loading. We could be sisters....weird....except for the beer bottle thingy Quote
Old Salt Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Holy Crap! I thought that was me for a second. I am sooooo glad it isn't. I don't do the beer bottle trick...I use a wine bottle Whew! Seriously OS...I really thought it was me, as it was loading. We could be sisters....weird....except for the beer bottle thingy I copied it from another forum I visit and had it as the cover for one of the albums on my profile page. Your picture was right above it under the friends. You're right, I almost thought it was you. Hair is just a bit different and I'm sure you noticed a few other differences. Quote
eddo Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Holy Crap! I thought that was me for a second. I am sooooo glad it isn't. I don't do the beer bottle trick...I use a wine bottle Whew! Seriously OS...I really thought it was me, as it was loading. We could be sisters....weird....except for the beer bottle thingy I copied it from another forum I visit and had it as the cover for one of the albums on my profile page. Your picture was right above it under the friends. You're right, I almost thought it was you. Hair is just a bit different and I'm sure you noticed a few other differences. She's lying. It's her. Quote I'm trusted by more women.
wez Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Holy Crap! I thought that was me for a second. I am sooooo glad it isn't. I don't do the beer bottle trick...I use a wine bottle Whew! Seriously OS...I really thought it was me, as it was loading. We could be sisters....weird....except for the beer bottle thingy lol... I thought that was you too, sexy. Quote
emkay64 Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 That is NOT me! I do not suck beer bottles in public....I reserve it only for the tightest social circles. Quote
wez Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 That is NOT me! I do not suck beer bottles in public....I reserve it only for the tightest social circles. Yeah.. you're way sexier than her... Quote
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