McCain chooses Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for V.P.

[RoyalOrleans]

Sorry R.O. I think it's quite opposite, the Democrats are WELCOMING this pick. Alot of them feel that McCain might even be trying to throw the race and whole heartedly dump all the s@# mistakes of the past 8 years on his (Obama's) lap, so him, and the other Oil men in whITeY whitehouse can sit back with a smirk and go "SO LONG SUCKERS, HAVE FUN FIXING THIS FUKK UP"

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Are you off your freakin' meds, man?

 

I've heard a lot of dumb sh!t before, but this by far takes the sh!t-cake.

[eddo]

GIULIANI: PALIN COULD HANDLE 9/11 CRISIS - New York Post

 

But it is a bit comforting to know that Rudy knows Palin could ABSOLUTEY handle another 9/11

 

Course, 9/11 is his only talking point..

 

You know, noun, verb, 9/11

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Ya got a point there. It's about time you had one.

[wez]

Caught most of her speech on CNN last night... lots of rhetoric, very little truth and substance.

[Old Salt]

Caught most of her speech on CNN last night... lots of rhetoric, very little truth and substance.

Typical political speech?

[wez]

Typical political speech?

 

For sure.. bunch of crap. Idle ramblings.. like a frosted cardboard cake.

 

The message.. we're good, they're bad.

 

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[eddo]

Caught most of her speech on CNN last night... lots of rhetoric, very little truth and substance.

 

You musta watched a different speech than I did.

 

Sure she got in her diggs at Obama and Biden, but she also shared some of the stuff she has done in Alaska.

 

Stuff like selling the "governor's" plane because it was frivolous. or turning down the Federal government's money for the Bridge to Nowhere because it was a short sighted plan. Or how she will soon have a son in Iraq. Talk about a vested interest in how the war over there plays out...

 

I thought it was a great speech. She got the troops riled up and did a fine job of introducing herself to those of us who really don't know her.

[wez]

Talked tough on killing people too..

 

Too bad I wasn't there to ask her why dropping bombs on people makes Mr. McCain better than Charles Manson..

 

 

Hehehehe... woulda seen the devil in her eyes.

 

and the hypocrisy spew from her mouth..

[snafu]

She was the real deal.

She advcocates govermnet reform even you could agree with wez. Lower taxes. And an energy bill that they will instagate in the first 112 days. Rid ourselves from the grip of foriegn dependency.

[snafu]

You want change? She's gonna go into the white house and shake the tree!

[wez]

You want change? She's gonna go into the white house and shake the tree!

 

 

I can't support anyone who thinks it's ok to drop bombs on people and that it makes someone a hero.

 

I never asked anyone to kill anyone for me, so don't get pissed if I don't appreciate it.

 

She aint gonna shake up nuthin' but violence and more of the same sh t.

[snafu]

I can't support anyone who thinks it's ok to drop bombs on people and that it makes someone a hero.

 

I never asked anyone to kill anyone for me, so don't get pissed if I don't appreciate it.

 

She aint gonna shake up nuthin' but violence and more of the same sh t.

 

Well your not gonna be able to support anybody then. Obama will also drop bombs. He's already stated his support to stop Iran at any cost.

[wez]

Well your not gonna be able to support anybody then. Obama will also drop bombs. He's already stated his support to stop Iran at any cost.

 

You're right.. that's why I would never support Obama either.. Doesn't matter who "wins".. different faces, same sh t.. in the end, we all lose.

[ImWithStupid]

I can't support anyone who thinks it's ok to drop bombs on people and that it makes someone a hero.

 

I guess you won't be voting for Obama/McCain then...

 

Biden has called McCain a personal hero and proclaimed that he would run on a McCain ticket. Perhaps more substantively, Biden has praised McCain’s stances on climate change and troop levels in Iraq and has acknowledged that McCain’s approach to foreign policy differs from President Bush’s — all assertions that fly in the face of lines of attack that Obama has been pursuing against McCain.

 

DENVER -- Joe Biden today again called John McCain a hero, but said that he disagrees with his “good friend” over the way forward in Iraq.

 

“He’s a real hero,” the Delaware senator told members of National Guard units stationed outside of Invesco Field.

[eddo]

I guess you won't be voting for Obama/McCain then...

 

Nah, he won't be able to vote for anyone after he moves to Switzerland, where it's easy to be neutral...

[wez]

Nah, he won't be able to vote for anyone after he moves to Switzerland, where it's easy to be neutral...

 

Switzerland? I aint goin' no where.. I can defend my beliefs anywhere, anytime, against anyone. I'm an American.

 

Don't need to kill anyone to prove I'm right, either.

[eddo]

Switzerland? I aint goin' no where.. I can defend my beliefs anywhere, anytime, against anyone. I'm an American.

 

It's a good thing people fought and died for your ability to "defend my beliefs anywhere, anytime, against anyone". If not, you'd likely be saying it in Japanese or German or with a heavy British accent, and in most assuredly in jail for believing it.

 

Maybe you should thank some people for giving you the freedom to say and think whatever you want here in America, instead of always bashing them.

 

Just a though.

 

 

I know, I know, I'll shut the hell up now...

[Guest Fullauto]

It's a good thing people fought and died for your ability to "defend my beliefs anywhere, anytime, against anyone". If not, you'd likely be saying it in Japanese or German or with a heavy British accent, and in most assuredly in jail for believing it.

 

Maybe you should thank some people for giving you the freedom to say and think whatever you want here in America, instead of always bashing them.

 

Just a though.

 

 

I know, I know, I'll shut the hell up now...

 

The ability to complain should be balanced out with the need to appreciate what is already good... There are many things that need attention in this country... alot is on the line with this election... but it would be a sin to not give lip service to what has gone right in the face of what could have gone wrong...

 

I'm not an Obama fan, but I can tell you that I'm thrilled to see him 'man up' and admit that the surge that he voted against and his opponent McCain championed and voted for, was wildly successful! It took alot to admit that especially during the election...

[wez]

It's a good thing people fought and died for your ability to "defend my beliefs anywhere, anytime, against anyone". If not, you'd likely be saying it in Japanese or German or with a heavy British accent, and in most assuredly in jail for believing it.

 

Maybe you should thank some people for giving you the freedom to say and think whatever you want here in America, instead of always bashing them.

 

Just a though.

 

 

I know, I know, I'll shut the hell up now...

 

My freedom comes from my creator.. free will.. Not men killing men or living in fear only to say what I think other people think I should think. I'm sorry but killing people goes against everything I believe in. Doesn't mean I don't care about the young men and women who think they're doing the right thing because old people lie and ask them to die for them and rally the country to cheer em on all the way to the grave with the promise of hero status and 17 virgins..

 

Show me where I bashed anyone.. matter of fact, go take over for IWS on that McCain/Mengele debate.. He went MIA.. You know the one.. please explain.

[Guest Fullauto]

My freedom comes from my creator.. free will.. Not men killing men or living in fear only to say what I think other people think I should think. I'm sorry but killing people goes against everything I believe in. Doesn't mean I don't care about the young men and women who think they're doing the right thing because old people lie and ask them to die for them and rally the country to cheer em on all the way to the grave with the promise of hero status and 17 virgins..

 

Show me where I bashed anyone.. matter of fact, go take over for IWS on that McCain/Mengele debate.. He went MIA.. You know the one.. please explain.

 

I applaud your idealism, but the fact remains that you live in a world that is ruled by men killing men and the consequences of thier rule... Your freedom is a fortunate consequence of the country you live in and the culture that we have enjoyed as a people thus far... Freedom, to whatever extent you have it, is afforded to you by our nation's willingness to fight others...

 

You may not agree with killing people, but don't ever underestimate the effectivness of a mass grave at securing a peacefull border... We live under a blanket of security that other provided if not with war itself, with the spector of it...

 

You may not agree with it, but respect it...

[wez]

I applaud your idealism, but the fact remains that you live in a world that is ruled by men killing men and the consequences of thier rule... Your freedom is a fortunate consequence of the country you live in and the culture that we have enjoyed as a people thus far... Freedom, to whatever extent you have it, is afforded to you by our nation's willingness to fight others...

 

You may not agree with killing people, but don't ever underestimate the effectivness of a mass grave at securing a peacefull border... We live under a blanket of security that other provided if not with war itself, with the spector of it...

 

You may not agree with it, but respect it...

 

Their only role is to diminish my freedom of thought through fear, I choose to not allow it, or respect it. My country doesn't provide it, it hinders it. I aint afraid to die. I can be thankful they hinder it less than others, maybe. I wouldn't know. I had a chemistry professor last year that told me she had more freedom in Iran, her homeland, than she had here. I had no reason not to believe she felt that way.

 

I guess I can be thankful and respect the fact that I have never been popular and influential enough in my country to warrent being murdered or jailed by my countrymen for suggesting another perspective like Martin Luther King, the poor bastard that said the Earth was round, Jesus and Galileo.

 

Whoever thinks fear = respect and might = right is a dumbass.

[Old Salt]

A question for you, wez. And then I'll get out of the middle of your conversation.

 

In your opinion, was the Revolutionary War and the subsequent Constitution and BILL OF RIGHTS a good thing? Or a bad thing?

[Guest Fullauto]

Their only role is to diminish my freedom of thought through fear, I choose to not allow it, or respect it. My country doesn't provide it, it hinders it. I aint afraid to die. I can be thankful they hinder it less than others, maybe. I wouldn't know. I had a chemistry professor last year that told me she had more freedom in Iran, her homeland, than she had here. I had no reason not to believe she felt that way.

 

I guess I can be thankful and respect the fact that I have never been popular and influential enough in my country to warrent being murdered or jailed by my countrymen for suggesting another perspective like Martin Luther King, the poor bastard that said the Earth was round, Jesus and Galileo.

 

Whoever thinks fear = respect and might = right is a dumbass.

 

I am a White nationalist, so I will NOT stand here and tell you that this country is a completely free nation and will tolerate any speech or thought... But, I can tell you with a fair bit of authority that Iran DOES NOT have more freedom than we do... At least not when it comes to speaking out against the established government...

 

BUT... You reallly should separate what you feel is ideal versus what is a systemic truth... whether you want it to be or not, fear does equal respect... at least at face value... and might does make right, so far as winners right the history books...

 

The truth is, what we want to be true and what is true are two completely different things... and the faster we wrap our minds around that, the faster we can solve many of the problems that we spend so much time bitching about...

[wez]

A question for you, wez. And then I'll get out of the middle of your conversation.

 

In your opinion, was the Revolutionary War and the subsequent Constitution and BILL OF RIGHTS a good thing? Or a bad thing?

 

The principle behind it was good, the method not so good, but understandable. The bill of rights in principle is a good thing, and in practice is quite lacking. The Constitution is good in principle, and in practice is a bad joke. We have now become what we fought against in the Revolution, and then some. A nightmare of hypocrisy. Such is life.

[wez]

I am a White nationalist, so I will NOT stand here and tell you that this country is a completely free nation and will tolerate any speech or thought... But, I can tell you with a fair bit of authority that Iran DOES NOT have more freedom than we do... At least not when it comes to speaking out against the established government...

 

BUT... You reallly should separate what you feel is ideal versus what is a systemic truth... whether you want it to be or not, fear does equal respect... at least at face value... and might does make right, so far as winners right the history books...

 

The truth is, what we want to be true and what is true are two completely different things... and the faster we wrap our minds around that, the faster we can solve many of the problems that we spend so much time bitching about...

 

She lived in Iran most her life.. and here for a good amount of time. I suspect you've never lived in Iran? "Freedom" is relative. There is no seperation of any truth.. good or bad, it is what it is and I will do my best always to see it for what it is and decide for myself what it is I see. What is true is always true no matter how many people say otherwise, no matter how many times they say it, or no matter how many people they kill to "prove" it.

 

Fear = respect to the extent you allow it to. To me, they are polar opposites.

 

Fear leads to hate.. Respect leads to love.

[Guest Fullauto]

She lived in Iran most her life.. and here for a good amount of time. I suspect you've never lived in Iran? "Freedom" is relative. There is no seperation of any truth.. good or bad, it is what it is and I will do my best always to see it for what it is and decide for myself what it is I see. What is true is always true no matter how many people say otherwise, no matter how many times they say it, or no matter how many people they kill to "prove" it.

 

Fear = respect to the extent you allow it to. To me, they are polar opposites.

 

Fear leads to hate.. Respect leads to love.

 

Being a former member of the Air Force, I have been all over the world, but not to Iran... But I can tell you that freedom is indeed ralative... EG... you were free to criticize anyone you wanted to in the Soviet regime, but not the communist party... so I guess, as long as you were a communist, you were free... It's kinda the same in this country whether people want to believe it or not...

 

Fear is indeed opposite of true respect... But to everyone else except the fearing or the repected, they are the same... or at least, they produce the same results.

 

4 quaters is NOT a dollar... but it will buy the same ...

 

 

but you are right