hugo Posted September 6, 2008 Posted September 6, 2008 The Declaration of Independence was a declaration of war. Our founding fathers were not pacifist pussies. Otherwise we would be reading about the Royal family in our tabloids. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
eddo Posted September 6, 2008 Posted September 6, 2008 Know what else is funny... The natural laws that were understood by the founding fathers, were the very natural laws that were taught by Jesus.. Not by the so called "Chrisians".. AKA hypocrites.. that stole Jesus's name and bastardized his simple teachings understood by everyone under the age of 12, and incorperated it with a pile of b ll , smoke and mirrors and convinced people they are inseperable. Not Jesus's fault.. The founding fathers were smart enough to know that Jesus was man who perfectly understood the natural laws of the "Father" .. and wasn't God in the flesh who lived in a world of Pagan magic. They needed to steal Jesus and lock him in a box/book.. His teachings would have destroyed them.. What do you mean by "natural laws"? Quote I'm trusted by more women.
hugo Posted September 6, 2008 Posted September 6, 2008 Tom (LL Cool T) Jefferson Reading, reflection and time have convinced me that the interests of society require the observation of those moral precepts only in which all religions agree (for all forbid us to steal, murder, plunder, or bear false witness), and that we should not intermeddle with the particular dogmas in which all religions differ, and which are totally unconnected with morality (Letter to J. Fishback, 1809). The God of the Declaration is a generic god. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
wez Posted September 6, 2008 Author Posted September 6, 2008 What do you mean by "natural laws"? Through his own reasoning, Locke concluded that humans were "by nature free, equal and independent." Furthermore, natural law obligated that "no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty or possessions." Natural rights, according to American tradition, are those rights granted to human-kind by their Creator, or as Jefferson put it in the Declaration of Independence?essentially borrowing from John Locke's Second Treatise on Government (1690)?the rights accorded by "Nature and Nature's God." In the Declaration, these are described as "unalienable" rights, and include the recognition that "all men are created equal" and that all have rights to "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness." Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.. don't be a hypocrite. ~ Jesus Quote
timesjoke Posted September 6, 2008 Posted September 6, 2008 Some may consider Geroge Washington a 'founding father', I know I do. The closing paragraph of a letter to the governors of the 13 states on the occasion of his retirement from command of the Continental Army and public life. I now make it my earnest prayer, that God would have you, and the State over which you preside, in his holy protection, that he would incline the hearts of the Citizens to cultivate a spirit of subordination and obedience to Government, to entertain a brotherly affection and love for one another, for their fellow Citizens of the United States at large, and particularly for their brethren who have served in the Field, and finally, that he would most graciously be pleased to dispose us all, to do Justice, to love mercy, and to demean ourselves with that Charity, humility and pacific temper of mind, which were the Characteristicks of the Divine Author of our blessed Religion, and without an humble imitation of whose example in these things, we can never hope to be a happy Nation. Quote
wez Posted September 7, 2008 Author Posted September 7, 2008 Hey TJ... If a hero named Twan MeKang came halfway around the world and dropped bombs on us before we shot him down after the 24th time, would we give a flying f ck about his intent being good or bad? Lets say he believed with all his heart that he was fighting oppression and saving innocent childrens lives.. Throw him in a box or throw him a parade? Quote
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