How Most Left Wing Liberals Sound

[ImWithStupid]

What exactly is a "feminazi"?

 

It's a term for the Gloria Steinem type of femanist who claims to be for the advancement of women, but actually is only on the side of liberal, professional type women and regularly put down women who choose a more traditional life, by being a stay at home mom, or have conservative views. They really only support you if you have the same beliefs as they do.

[timesjoke]

It's a term for the Gloria Steinem type of femanist who claims to be for the advancement of women, but actually is only on the side of liberal, professional type women and regularly put down women who choose a more traditional life, by being a stay at home mom, or have conservative views. They really only support you if you have the same beliefs as they do.

 

And this is why I am co critical of Liberals.

 

They are so two faced when it comes to their party. If your one of them you deserve all these rights and people should support you but if your not one of them, your a step backward for all women if you get elected as the VP.

 

 

Everybody knows Palin is more than qualified, so they try to tear her apart with these personal attacks and unfounded claims to muddy the waters and keep the people from seeing the truth of her qualifications.

[phreakwars]

So, you guys are saying even though he was a state legislator in the senate from 1997-2004, he has less experience? Or do you conveniently forget this fact?

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[timesjoke]

So, you guys are saying even though he was a state legislator in the senate from 1997-2004, he has less experience? Or do you conveniently forget this fact?

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How many times did he vote 'present' on those issues?

 

I seems to remember over a hundred times, clearly his time there was not very well spent if he could never take sides on sensative issues.

 

Clearly he was grooming himself for future offices and not doing his job at the State level as he should.

 

 

Anyway, his responsibilities were nothing compared to a town Mayor as Palin was so if you think Obama sitting in a possition without really doing your job for a few years accounts for his experience to be President, then clearly Palin has ten times that level of experience just using her Mayor executive experience, when we add in her time as Govenor, she completely blows Obama away.

[phreakwars]

And what exactly is Mayor Executive privilege here? I wanna know, because I am now thinking of endorsing the mayor of my town as President in 2012. Obviosly ANYBODY can be President if they were a mayor... Hmm, wonder if I should instead endorse that 18 year old kid who ran for mayor and won...er... I guess I'll have to wait till he's 35.. but still. I wanna know more about this EXECUTIVE PRIVLEDGE thing and how it plays into it.

 

School me.

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[timesjoke]

And what exactly is Mayor Executive privilege here? I wanna know, because I am now thinking of endorsing the mayor of my town as President in 2012. Obviosly ANYBODY can be President if they were a mayor... Hmm, wonder if I should instead endorse that 18 year old kid who ran for mayor and won...er... I guess I'll have to wait till he's 35.. but still. I wanna know more about this EXECUTIVE PRIVLEDGE thing and how it plays into it.

 

School me.

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Fist of all I have no idea where your getting the "privledge" thing from. This seems to be a common theme with Liberals to insert things into other people's comments so they can act outraged.

 

 

I guess we need to discuss this like we are talking to a three year old so the Liberals can understand it.

 

 

We were comparing experience and how that related to an executive job like the Presidency.

 

 

Comparing Palin to Obama for their early careers, we have both involved in their local communities but only Palin was dealing with budgets, city employees, police/fire department needs, roads, all the little things that make a local city function.

 

Obama did some community work and some State level work but his voting record proves he accomplished close to nothing and never during any of that time did he ever run anything more complicated than a couple office staff.

 

So, early careers, Palin has lots of executive experience, Obama has none.

 

 

Now, more recently Palin is running an entire State budget, employees, etc. She is fighting big oil and other "pet projects" that directly puts her in opposition with her own party members. She is the very definition of an executive as it is meant to be.

 

Obama's recent record is as a brand new federal politician who has spent most of his time running for office, not doing his job. Obama claims his experience running his campaign is executive experience but when we look closer we see he has several campaign managers running the executive side of things. On top of that Obama has run up one of the most Liberal straight down the line voting records and has earned a very poor rating from independant watchdog groups for very heavy earmark abuses.

 

 

So again we see a pattern, recent careers show Palin with lots of executive experience in running an entire State, Obama has no executive experience.

 

 

 

Nobody ever said being a Mayor was Palin's only experience, it was offered as 'part' of her experience but even if that was all she had, it would still be ten times more experience than Obama has. Obama has been a follower his entire life, now suddenly people want to believe a guy who has had problems even making tough votes at the State level can suddenly be an executive of the highest order?

 

 

I keep going back to what Biden himself said:

 

Aug. 2007 on Obama's experience: "I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training."

 

Aug. 2007 on Obama's threat to go into Pakistan after Al Qaeda: "The way to deal with it is not to announce it, it's to do it. . . . The last thing you want to do is telegraph to the folks in Pakistan that we're about to violate . . . their sovereignty."

 

Aug. 2007 on Obama's pledge to meet with leaders of rogue nations: "Would I make a blanket commitment to meet unconditionally with the leaders of each of those countries within the first year I was president? Absolutely, positively no."

 

Sept. 2007 on Obama's Iraq plan: "My impression is he thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany. I've seen zero evidence of that."

 

 

Just a few short months ago his own running mate was saying Obama is not ready to be President, what has changed?

 

 

Would Microsoft put a complete novice in charge of their company?

 

No.

 

 

America is a million times more complex than Microsoft, why put a complete novice like Obama in charge of that? Don't make much sense does it.

[phreakwars]

Look at that reply, totally off track and irrelevant to the question... which was.. tell me about this executive privilege thing.

 

You only touched on it here:

only Palin was dealing with budgets, city employees, police/fire department needs, roads, all the little things that make a local city function.

Which is FALSE.. She never handled those things. Her, like my own home town mayor, hired an ADMINISTRATOR to handle this.

 

Same thing with her governor stint. She has advisers telling her what to do. Executive privledge doesn't mean JACK. It's just another candy coated spin title the GOP tossed our way to make it sound like she did something important.

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[snafu]

Look at that reply, totally off track and irrelevant to the question... which was.. tell me about this executive privilege thing.

 

You only touched on it here:

Which is FALSE.. She never handled those things. Her, like my own home town mayor, hired an ADMINISTRATOR to handle this.

 

Same thing with her governor stint. She has advisers telling her what to do. Executive privledge doesn't mean JACK. It's just another candy coated spin title the GOP tossed our way to make it sound like she did something important.

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Nope sorry but your wrong. A governor has to approve anything that has to do with the state. Although they probably use advisors they don't have Administrators pulling the strings. The buck stops on the Governors desk.

[phreakwars]

Nope sorry but your wrong. A governor has to approve anything that has to do with the state. Although they probably use advisors they don't have Administrators pulling the strings. The buck stops on the Governors desk.

Ah, so then you don't deny the advisers she had as Mayor? Which leaves this woman with less then 2 years experience as a governor. Again, like I said before... apologists going with the herd.

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[ImWithStupid]

I don't think the term, "exectuive privilage" is being used properly here.

 

Put simply, executive privilege is the concept that what happens in the White House stays in the White House. But the limits of its use are surprisingly untested in the federal courts.

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19682945/

[ImWithStupid]

Ah, so then you don't deny the advisers she had as Mayor? Which leaves this woman with less then 2 years experience as a governor. Again, like I said before... apologists going with the herd.

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every exectutive has advisors. That's pretty much what the cabinet is. It's done in business and government, but ultimately the decision is the responsibility of the executive head/CEO.

[timesjoke]

Look at that reply, totally off track and irrelevant to the question...

 

Just because you don't like what I said that does not make it irrelivant. Everythign I posted was clear and 100% accurate, if you would like to rebut and offer some examples of Obama managing things in an executive capacity I would gladly asses new info but so far you seem desperate to discout real and hard facts proving Palin has experience of an executive nature but refuse to admit Obama has none.

 

No matter how you slice it, the more you say she is not qualified, the more you bury Obama because he is less qualified than she is.

 

 

Which is FALSE.. She never handled those things. Her, like my own home town mayor, hired an ADMINISTRATOR to handle this.

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Wrong again, small town mayors do not have the big budgets larger towns have. While there may be some part time advisors on a limited basis, the Mayor and staff directly do their own budget crunching. They also face the direct reaction fo their budget like many small town mayors having to deal with the gas price increases doubling their budgets without having the funds ready. There small town Mayors have to be jacks of all trades to a certain degree.

 

 

Even if you were right, how does that matter? She is still dealing with difficult executive decisions every day just managing the city workers and such. Her executive experience is long and filled with success.

 

Instead of trying to bring down Sarah Palin's great accomplishments, why not instead tell us about Obama's executive accomplishments, that is if he has any.

 

 

Is that your motive?

 

You know Obama is not qualified so now you Liberals are busy trying to bring her down to your level?

[phreakwars]

Holy sheep , you can't stay focused on one thing for one damn post without diverting the subject to someone else, can you?

 

The original question was about how "executive experience" comes into play, and you outright CONVINCED YOURSELF of this:

 

small town mayors do not have the big budgets larger towns have. While there may be some part time advisors on a limited basis, the Mayor and staff directly do their own budget crunching. They also face the direct reaction fo their budget like many small town mayors having to deal with the gas price increases doubling their budgets without having the funds ready. There small town Mayors have to be jacks of all trades to a certain degree.

 

That might be true... except in the case of Wasilla Alaska, where the small town mayor simply couldn't handle the budget and had to hire someone to do it for her... Coincidently, she left the town with a $20 million dollar debt... or was that the administrators fault?

 

The question was about executive privilege and what that actually brings to the Presidency. I see you wanna run yet another GOP tactic on me, the one McCain has been playing... hit em with the truth, and get back the "I KNOW YOU ARE, BUT WHAT AM I" grade school rebuttal, and go OBAMA THIS, OBAMA THAT.

 

Your totally unphased because you live in a state of denial.

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[snafu]

Holy sheep , you can't stay focused on one thing for one damn post without diverting the subject to someone else, can you?

 

The original question was about how "executive experience" comes into play, and you outright CONVINCED YOURSELF of this:

 

 

 

That might be true... except in the case of Wasilla Alaska, where the small town mayor simply couldn't handle the budget and had to hire someone to do it for her... Coincidently, she left the town with a $20 million dollar debt... or was that the administrators fault?

 

The question was about executive privilege and what that actually brings to the Presidency. I see you wanna run yet another GOP tactic on me, the one McCain has been playing... hit em with the truth, and get back the "I KNOW YOU ARE, BUT WHAT AM I" grade school rebuttal, and go OBAMA THIS, OBAMA THAT.

 

Your totally unphased because you live in a state of denial.

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Can you help us out and post where your getting your information.

 

Palin left office with a 4 million dollar surplus.

 

As Mayor of Wasilla, Palin Cut Own Duties, Left Trail of Bad Blood

 

You know of course Alaska dosn't even have a state tax don't you?

[phreakwars]

Dems armed with Palin opposition - Glenn Thrush - Politico.com

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[emkay64]

Hey, hey now! I like Canada, ya' bunch of .....Canada haters. Why do y'all dislike us so much ?

[phreakwars]

Oh, and there is also the documents on Wasilla's official site/city page: http://www.cityofwasilla.com/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=481

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[timesjoke]

Can you help us out and post where your getting your information.

 

Palin left office with a 4 million dollar surplus.

 

You know of course Alaska dose not have a state tax don't you?

 

I am starting to understand that Bender is not really interested in anythign that does not conform to his Liberal programming. I am still baffled by his "privilege" useage, he is the only one tryign to insert this into the conversation without any explanation why?

 

 

 

Look Bender, the entire conversation on my part was about how you Liberals attack her "GREATER" executive experience but completely ignore the fact that Obama has "NO", (let me say this again) "No" executive experience at all, not even one day, much less years of experience like Sarah Palin has.

 

 

Why the double standard?

[phreakwars]

I am starting to understand that Bender is not really interested in anythign that does not conform to his Liberal programming. I am still baffled by his "privilege" useage, he is the only one tryign to insert this into the conversation without any explanation why?

 

 

 

Look Bender, the entire conversation on my part was about how you Liberals attack her "GREATER" executive experience but completely ignore the fact that Obama has "NO", (let me say this again) "No" executive experience at all, not even one day, much less years of experience like Sarah Palin has.

 

 

Why the double standard?

I know you are, but what am I?

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[timesjoke]

I know you are, but what am I?

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So is that a no?

 

 

You cannot explain why you have a double standard?

[phreakwars]

So is that a no?

 

 

You cannot explain why you have a double standard?

I know you do, but what about me.

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[snafu]

We receive a permanent fund also. We would have to lose that and start up state taxes before we went into the hole.

My permanent fund check was $2,069. And along with Plain’s $1,200 energy relief we received 3,269.

Checks already in the bank.

[timesjoke]

I know you do, but what about me.

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Your defending a certain person but banning me starts to make sense now.

[phreakwars]

Alaskans are nothing but welfare baby socialists, living on socialist oil checks.

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[snafu]

Alaskans are nothing but welfare baby socialists, living on socialist oil checks.

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Haha... hehe!

 

Drill baby Dril!!