timesjoke Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 I did take the banning a tad personal, well as far as I allow something on the internet to be personal. Do you believe being banned for voicing your opinions is not personal? A banning is sort of a "e-slap" in the face and in this case, it was done because Bender got angry about me asking questions. He clearly said I was nit picking the rule so he banned me. I really do not care about the banning itself, just that the motivations for that banning for voicing my opinions are still alive and well in those who see nothing wrong with banning a member who did not violate any rule. As a side note' date=' I would like to explain that the reason I am here and on other forums debating instead of my own is in order to maintain my objectivity, I cannot get down in the trenches of spirited debates and then enforce the rules of the board. You don't see Judges hanging out with the police. I have a rule where if one of my moderators is posting in a thread, they cannot exercise their mod powers in that thread except for the most obvious problem like a spammer posting porn or a member losing his cool, and even then I take more time to review those situations to be sure there is no possibility of a staff member abusing his mod powers just to win a debate.[/quote'] And this is a good rule to follow if you're a mod. You can't objectively make a decision when you are engaging in the debate. When those instances happen I would rather the mods step back and let one of the unbiased mods take control. I speak of mods as plural even though we only have one at this time. We are discussing adding another. No matter how 'fair' someone tries to be, when they are actively "in the trenches" they cannot preserve objectivity. Even Cloaked agreed with me on that point. Thanks for the birthday wishes, back at you as well, the old farts have to keep things straight with these younger wackos trying to ruin our hard work, lol. Quote
snafu Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 I wasn't happy with your banning either but something had to be done at the time so I'm not gonna second guess their decision. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
phreakwars Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 I wasn't mad at you for asking questions, I was mad at you for pissing off and annoying the hell out of all the other members. It's pretty damn sad when I got long time members saying... geesh I really don't wanna post anymore on the site because of the whining TJ is doing all over the damn boards. What the hell do you THINK I was gonna do.. ban wez? I sure as hell wasn't gonna do that if YOU AND ONLY YOU were the one complaining about the guy. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
timesjoke Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 I wasn't happy with your banning either but something had to be done at the time so I'm not gonna second guess their decision. "something" Well it certainly sounds clinical to word it that way to those who are not banned for voicing their opinions but to the one who gets banned it leaves a lot to be desired. Especially when the other side of that coin was allowed to break the rules almost daily and not earn a permanant ban as I was given. Just how is that "fair"? Look, the world is not fair and I am not really upset that they were unfair, as I keep saying over and over, all I am pointing out is the "truth" behind it, not calling for fairness. These guys are humans, they will make mistakes, they will also trend tword not admitting their mistakes as most humans do. But, I see no reason to 'let' them paint over the facts and even lie about it. I honestly was only jabbing at Bender for refusing to answer the question I asked him, IWS had to jump into the 'fight' and make a wrong claim about my banning so at that point, I had to defend against his lie. He blew this up much bigger than it ever had to be. Quote
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ImWithStupid Posted September 16, 2008 Author Posted September 16, 2008 I wasn't mad at you for asking questions, I was mad at you for pissing off and annoying the hell out of all the other members. It's pretty damn sad when I got long time members saying... geesh I really don't wanna post anymore on the site because of the whining TJ is doing all over the damn boards. What the hell do you THINK I was gonna do.. ban wez? I sure as hell wasn't gonna do that if YOU AND ONLY YOU were the one complaining about the guy. . . Exactly. Hence my truthful statement that nobody has been banned for voicing their opinions and there was much more to it than the post immediately before the banning, but since TJ isn't capable of seeing that he was part of the problem, I knew there was no point in explaining that and posted the violin playing a sad song for the poor innocent guy who got punished for doing no wrong. Quote
wez Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 TJ.. really.. you only got what you wanted for me, banning.. of which your methods of doing so are what got you banned in the first place.. Even then, I never wanted you banned.. Your opinions cannot hurt me.. and if they did, I'd thank you for teaching me something. But lies, hypocrisy, and mind f cks can hurt me.. if I let it. Quote
Anna Perenna Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 I wasn't mad at you for asking questions, I was mad at you for pissing off and annoying the hell out of all the other members. It's pretty damn sad when I got long time members saying... geesh I really don't wanna post anymore on the site because of the whining TJ is doing all over the damn boards. What the hell do you THINK I was gonna do.. ban wez? I sure as hell wasn't gonna do that if YOU AND ONLY YOU were the one complaining about the guy. . . Uh..... geesh I really don't wanna post anymore on the site because of the whining TJ is doing all over the damn boards. Just thought I'd put that out there. Quote _______________________________________________________ I don't know how to put this, but ... I'm kind of a big deal. http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/da43a2f8a710897a421f74efa00eba9a.jpg I'm still here. I'm still a fool for the holy grail Not all gay men send me penis pictures. But no straight men do. And to date, no woman has sent me a picture of her vaginal canal.
timesjoke Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 Exactly. Hence my truthful statement that nobody has been banned for voicing their opinions and there was much more to it than the post immediately before the banning, but since TJ isn't capable of seeing that he was part of the problem, I knew there was no point in explaining that and posted the violin playing a sad song for the poor innocent guy who got punished for doing no wrong. Again, post the infraction log showing my rule violations if there was this long list of problems as you claim the record will show it. I already asked you to do this but you still refuse to do anythign but mention non existing verbal claims of my infractions. The only thing you so far you want to pin on me is some people complained, wow. I saw several people complain about Wez in the open but those peopel would not be the type to petition the leadership to help them. The only people who would have complained about me would have been the weak people that are severely liberal. Anyone else could handly their battles without running to mommie. So anyway, we are back to the facts. I was banned for my opinions. Either it was my opinions that upset people who complained or it was the opinions in the thread where Bender clearly gave that as my reason for being banned. I tend to lean tword Benders own words at the time he did it, but if you guys want to rewrite history and say it was people complained about my opinions, fine, either way I was removed for my views, not for any violation of the rules. Quote
wez Posted September 16, 2008 Posted September 16, 2008 Again, post the infraction log showing my rule violations if there was this long list of problems as you claim the record will show it. I already asked you to do this but you still refuse to do anythign but mention non existing verbal claims of my infractions. The only thing you so far you want to pin on me is some people complained, wow. I saw several people complain about Wez in the open but those peopel would not be the type to petition the leadership to help them. The only people who would have complained about me would have been the weak people that are severely liberal. Anyone else could handly their battles without running to mommie. So anyway, we are back to the facts. I was banned for my opinions. Either it was my opinions that upset people who complained or it was the opinions in the thread where Bender clearly gave that as my reason for being banned. I tend to lean tword Benders own words at the time he did it, but if you guys want to rewrite history and say it was people complained about my opinions, fine, either way I was removed for my views, not for any violation of the rules. Shut the hell up, hypocrite. Quote
wez Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 The only people who would have complained about me would have been the weak people that are severely liberal. Anyone else could handly their battles without running to mommie. Hey genius.. it was you running to mommy and trying to mind f ck them into doing your bidding by complaining all over the forum to have me banned whilst claiming you had 15 friends to prove it.. wake up... The only thing you so far you want to pin on me is some people complained, wow. I saw several people complain about Wez in the open but those peopel would not be the type to petition the leadership to help them. Hey moron.. it was you and two others aboard the TJ express who were doing ALL the complaining about the "wez problem", remember? step into the light... I was banned for my opinions. You were banned for lies, hypocrisy, and mind f cks. You don't fool anyone here TJ.. cept maybe Fellacio.. Hahahahahahaha... But then again, he fools you too.. Hahahahaha Quote
ImWithStupid Posted September 17, 2008 Author Posted September 17, 2008 Again, post the infraction log showing my rule violations if there was this long list of problems as you claim the record will show it. I already asked you to do this but you still refuse to do anythign but mention non existing verbal claims of my infractions. The only thing you so far you want to pin on me is some people complained, wow. I saw several people complain about Wez in the open but those peopel would not be the type to petition the leadership to help them. The only people who would have complained about me would have been the weak people that are severely liberal. Anyone else could handly their battles without running to mommie. So anyway, we are back to the facts. I was banned for my opinions. Either it was my opinions that upset people who complained or it was the opinions in the thread where Bender clearly gave that as my reason for being banned. I tend to lean tword Benders own words at the time he did it, but if you guys want to rewrite history and say it was people complained about my opinions, fine, either way I was removed for my views, not for any violation of the rules. To reiterate what has already been said, in order... http://Off Topic Forum.com/off-topic-bs/25959-how-most-left-wing-liberals-sound-6.html#post71218 http://Off Topic Forum.com/off-topic-bs/25959-how-most-left-wing-liberals-sound-6.html#post71230 http://Off Topic Forum.com/off-topic-bs/25959-how-most-left-wing-liberals-sound-7.html#post71234 http://Off Topic Forum.com/off-topic-bs/25959-how-most-left-wing-liberals-sound-7.html#post71265 http://Off Topic Forum.com/off-topic-bs/25959-how-most-left-wing-liberals-sound-9.html#post71466 Quote
timesjoke Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 Why are you so afraid of the truth guys? There is either a record of my transgressions or not. If not then we have Bender's own words in black and white clearly stating I was banned for nit picking. We have some 'claims' of complaints from other people who did not like my views and opinions but again, no rule violations. Being as I did not violate the rules, clearly my removal was of a personal nature. Even if we take this new claim at face value, it is still my views and opinions that generated the complaints that you received. Quote
wez Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 Why are you so afraid of the truth guys? There is either a record of my transgressions or not. If not then we have Bender's own words in black and white clearly stating I was banned for nit picking. We have some 'claims' of complaints from other people who did not like my views and opinions but again, no rule violations. Being as I did not violate the rules, clearly my removal was of a personal nature. Even if we take this new claim at face value, it is still my views and opinions that generated the complaints that you received. Shut the hell up, hypocrite. Quote
phreakwars Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 ZOMG is he STILL WHINING? He just never stops crying does he? I guess he NOW wants to see all the private messages from members going "WILL YOU TELL THAT CRYBABY TO JUST SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY". . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
hugo Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 TJ, shut the hell up and let's get back to other things. 1 Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
ImWithStupid Posted September 17, 2008 Author Posted September 17, 2008 ZOMG is he STILL WHINING? He just never stops crying does he? I guess he NOW wants to see all the private messages from members going "WILL YOU TELL THAT CRYBABY TO JUST SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY". . . That's the part I was ignoring and not telling him about. That and all the discussion in the hidden forum. Quote
Anna Perenna Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 That's the part I was ignoring and not telling him about. That and all the discussion in the hidden forum. I'm so glad it's just me, Wez and the moderators allowed in the secret forum. Quote _______________________________________________________ I don't know how to put this, but ... I'm kind of a big deal. http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/da43a2f8a710897a421f74efa00eba9a.jpg I'm still here. I'm still a fool for the holy grail Not all gay men send me penis pictures. But no straight men do. And to date, no woman has sent me a picture of her vaginal canal.
ImWithStupid Posted September 17, 2008 Author Posted September 17, 2008 I'm so glad it's just me, Wez and the moderators allowed in the secret forum. Wez in the secret forum? Sorry, not following. Quote
Anna Perenna Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 Wez in the secret forum? Sorry, not following. "Wez" is code for my secret moderator name, of course. Quote _______________________________________________________ I don't know how to put this, but ... I'm kind of a big deal. http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/da43a2f8a710897a421f74efa00eba9a.jpg I'm still here. I'm still a fool for the holy grail Not all gay men send me penis pictures. But no straight men do. And to date, no woman has sent me a picture of her vaginal canal.
eddo Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 TJ, shut the hell up and let's get back to other things. I totally agree. Time to let it go TJ. You are starting to sound a lot like another user that cannot ever seem to move forward past his indiscretions with admins. and we sure as hell don't need two of him around here... Quote I'm trusted by more women.
ImWithStupid Posted September 17, 2008 Author Posted September 17, 2008 "Wez" is code for my secret moderator name, of course. Shhhh! I was playing dumb, so nobody else would know. 1 Quote
wez Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 I totally agree. Time to let it go TJ. You are starting to sound a lot like another user that cannot ever seem to move forward past his indiscretions with admins. and we sure as hell don't need two of him around here... He sounds like you used to eddo.. nice try. Why didn't you agree with me when I was telling him to shut the hell up a year ago rather than board the TJ express with broman? Yeah.. that's what "we" needed.. You want your head back in my avatar? 1 Quote
ImWithStupid Posted September 17, 2008 Author Posted September 17, 2008 You want your head back in my avatar? How about Paris Hilton instead? Quote
eddo Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 He sounds like you used to eddo.. nice try. Why didn't you agree with me when I was telling him to shut the hell up a year ago rather than board the TJ express with broman? Yeah.. that's what "we" needed.. You want your head back in my avatar? Shut the hell up wez. (is that how it goes?) Quote I'm trusted by more women.
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