Guest NewsBot Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 FORT WAINWRIGHT, Alaska (AP) -- John McCain running mate Sarah Palin sought Thursday to defend her qualifications but struggled with foreign policy, unable to describe President Bush's doctrine of pre-emptive strikes against threatening nations and acknowledging she's never met a foreign head of state.... Read the full story. Quote
phreakwars Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Doesn't even know what the Bush doctrine is... pathetic [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpJsQch9uZo]YouTube - Asked about the Bush Doctrine... Palin is clueless[/ame] . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
timesjoke Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Is there a piece of legislation called the "Bush Doctrin" that I don't know of? Sarah did an incredible job of speaking on the issues and being a solid executive, ready to answer clearly and make no excuses for possitions. She clearly pointed out the specifics of what he was wanting to know, who cares what slang term is used to describe those possitions. Considering her sudden thrust into this high stakes political arena, she did much better than any of the liberals who call her a nothing could ever have imagined and their fear of her is evident by trying to pick at this little tidbit. Obama only agreed to 30 minutes of interview with O'reily knowing that is all he could take being he has never been pressed on the issues, Sarah had no time limit and charley interviewed for over an hour and a half before running out of questions and calling it quits himself. Sarah is an incredible woman, too bad the Liberals are too stuck on their savior to see that one basic truth even if they do not agree with her politics. Hey Bender, I see your not responding to my thread about your Liberal leadership comparing Obama to Jesus, I wonder why??????? Quote
phreakwars Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Is there a piece of legislation called the "Bush Doctrin" that I don't know of? No, but unless you live under a rock (or Alaska), most people know it's the entire reasoning the dictator in chief used to justify invading Iraq, and most recently, bomb on the Pakistan/Afgan border. Sarah did an incredible job of speaking on the issues and being a solid executive, ready to answer clearly and make no excuses for possitions. She clearly pointed out the specifics of what he was wanting to know, who cares what slang term is used to describe those possitions.What exactly was she clear on? She sounded like a well trained politician who never gives a direct answer. Considering her sudden thrust into this high stakes political arena, she did much better than any of the liberals who call her a nothing could ever have imagined and their fear of her is evident by trying to pick at this little tidbit.Sudden thrust? But she's experienced, remember? Obama only agreed to 30 minutes of interview with O'reily knowing that is all he could take being he has never been pressed on the issues, Sarah had no time limit and charley interviewed for over an hour and a half before running out of questions and calling it quits himself. But the MSM is all Liberal media, right? No way would O'Rielly try dogging on a fellow liberal. Did you see the interview? I did, Obama held his own, O'Rielly blabbed his mouth off as usual, interupted him as usual, and made an ass of himself as usual, I found it quite funny Sarah is an incredible woman, too bad the Liberals are too stuck on their savior to see that one basic truth even if they do not agree with her politics.I'd possibly agree with her politics if she actually had any. I'll at least give McCain some form of credit for trying to somewhat express an agenda... Palin... WHAT A FRIGGIN JOKE !! I know your party loyalty doesn't see it that way... or perhaps there is too much pride from the GOP to admit it, but this chick is one stupid broad !! Hey Bender, I see your not responding to my thread about your Liberal leadership comparing Obama to Jesus, I wonder why???????Uhm... I work for a living, but to answer that question.. the GOP are the ones who gave him the "MESSIAH" and "THE ONE" label... tell me you haven't seen the commercials. Evidently Exodus 20:3 isn't sacred during an election year if you can use it to smear an opponents popularity.. "BUT, BUT, OH DEAR LORD, THAT FALSE IDOL I CREATED WAS MEANT TO MOCK THE DEMOCRATS....PLEASE DON'T SEND ME TO HELL... As for the Jesus/Pilate reference, this made a reference to what they did as human, not as some omnipotetent savior of mankind. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
snafu Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 No, but unless you live under a rock (or Alaska), most people know it's the entire reasoning the dictator in chief used to justify invading Iraq, and most recently, bomb on the Pakistan/Afgan border. . . Oh so we should all know every libeal labing done to Bush. gottc'ha. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
phreakwars Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Oh so we should all know every libeal labing done to Bush. gottc'ha. Gee, you would think after 7 fricken years of talk about the Bush Doctrine all over the damn news that you MIGHT have AT LEAST some idea of what it's about. Maybe you guys don't get the same cable channels in Alaska like we do in the contigent states. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
snafu Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 The Bush Doctrine is a phrase used to describe various related foreign policy principles of United States president George W. Bush, enunciated in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks And she answered the question. She said if your talking about how Bush conducted Foriegn affairs.... something to that effect. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
timesjoke Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 No, but unless you live under a rock (or Alaska), most people know it's the entire reasoning the dictator in chief used to justify invading Iraq, and most recently, bomb on the Pakistan/Afgan border. No, maybe most Liberals know their labels and slang used as demeaning attacks on someone like Bush, but clearly there are some people who live their lives quite well without trying to submit to memory your slang terms. When the liberal slang term was defined into actual policy questions Palin was not only well informed to the policy but also placed the policies into context and explained it down to the last detail proving her knowledge of Bush's policies to be quite complete. What exactly was she clear on? She sounded like a well trained politician who never gives a direct answer. Did you even listen to what she said or was your hearing blocked by your biases? She went into great detail, maybe you need to listen to the snippet you offered again. Sudden thrust? But she's experienced, remember? Exactly, her long and very detailed executive jobs allowed her to adjust to this more intense level. That is what we expect experience to do for people. I guess Obama's lack of any executive experience at all would not let you see the difference. But the MSM is all Liberal media, right? No way would O'Rielly try dogging on a fellow liberal. Did you see the interview? I did, Obama held his own, O'Rielly blabbed his mouth off as usual, interupted him as usual, and made an ass of himself as usual, I found it quite funny Hey, I give Obama kudos for doing a very good job considering not one person has ever pinned him down on many of the topics O'Reilly did but again, he kept the time limited so that limited the amount of detail they could get into but with a lot of ground to cover. Let me give you an example: Obama dodged the question as to why he refuses to allow more drilling for oil. When pressed several times, Obama waffled about how our Country has some beautiful areas but he knows as well as everyone else none of the drilling being proposed (especially offshore) will effect tourist areas that people go to see so why the comment about beautiful? Clearly he does not care about helping the little guys or he would support reducing the cost of gas by increasing supply. Sarah Palin in contrast did not place any limits and gave her interviewer full freedom to explore any topic for as far as he wanted to go, now there is confidence in yourself and your possitions. I'd possibly agree with her politics if she actually had any. I'll at least give McCain some form of credit for trying to somewhat express an agenda... Palin... WHAT A FRIGGIN JOKE !! I know your party loyalty doesn't see it that way... or perhaps there is too much pride from the GOP to admit it, but this chick is one stupid broad !! Now that is just a complete lie. Why do you Liberals refuse to give her any credit when even the liberal polls show her as having a better connection to the issues that the average person cares about than Obama? She is the middle class, she is everything about the middle class and started at the bottom of politics as a school volunetter PTA member. Her politics are well established for many, many years of fighting the established order in Alaska even sometimes fighting her own party. She is not a puppet or parrot like Obama's choice for VP. Uhm... I work for a living, but to answer that question.. the GOP are the ones who gave him the "MESSIAH" and "THE ONE" label... tell me you haven't seen the commercials. Evidently Exodus 20:3 isn't sacred during an election year if you can use it to smear an opponents popularity.. I work for a living as well, so what? I put in about 60 to 70 hours a week (every week) in my job for someone else and running my own businesses, I seriously doubt you work more than I do. Then if I add in my weekend work that I do about once or twice a week for big projects I know few people in America work more than I do. The very beginning of Obama's bid for the President job has had him protraying himself as a "messiah" type figure, remeber the people fainting like he was a faith healer or something? That is where it all came from, not the GOP. As for the Jesus/Pilate reference, this made a reference to what they did as human, not as some omnipotetent savior of mankind. Exactly, the Liberals are trying to say Obama's work is comparable to Jesus. And why do you suppose the (wrong) comment about a governor was made? Another good example of 'nice' or "changed" politics in Washington? Quote
wez Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Gee, you would think after 7 fricken years of talk about the Bush Doctrine all over the damn news that you MIGHT have AT LEAST some idea of what it's about. Maybe you guys don't get the same cable channels in Alaska like we do in the contigent states. . . Bush doctrine = Murder for the securement of resources.. just like his daddy who imported terrorism to the doorstep taught him.. TJ likes to play dumb and toss labels and when you prove he is the label he tossed, then he cries a river to anyone who will listen to ban said label re-tosser. I work for a living as well, so what? I put in about 60 to 70 hours a week (every week) in my job for someone else and running my own businesses, I seriously doubt you work more than I do. Then if I add in my weekend work that I do about once or twice a week for big projects I know few people in America work more than I do. TJ good American, perhaps the best ever, you bad liberal. Quote
snafu Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Obama had a tough time explaining his tax plan too. Orielly say's so you just want 50% of my paycheck? And Obama stumbled around for the answer. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
timesjoke Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Obama had a tough time explaining his tax plan too. Orielly say's so you just want 50% of my paycheck? And Obama stumbled around for the answer. That too, I mention the limited time Obama allowed because there was so much more to go into but O'Reilly just did not have the time to cover everything in detail the way Sarah is allowing. For example, while he is waffling on the amount to raise taxes on the rich, nobody will press him on how those increases will not cover the extra money he wants to spend by a long way so where is all this new revinue comming from? Then there is this "tax break" claim. He is not lowering taxes to people, he is creating more welfare. What Obama wants to do is send checks to people who don't even pay taxes. That is not a rebate, that is a handout. A rebate is something you get back after you pay in, being as most of the people who are going to get these free checks don't pay any taxes, they can't be getting a "rebate". This is just classic Liberal Robin Hood politics. The "poor" are entitled to what the "not poor" earn because it is not fair in their minds for someone to keep the fruits of their labor. Quote
wez Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Obama had a tough time explaining his tax plan too. Orielly say's so you just want 50% of my paycheck? And Obama stumbled around for the answer. Most people lose at least 50% of their pay to taxes already.. think of all the taxes you pay besides income tax.. not to mention the increased cost of goods due to taxes that are part of the flat cost.. Someone who TJ doesn't have ignored needs to ask him if his kids have ever received welfare of any kind.. or his ex wife on behalf of his kids in any way, shape, or form..... be fun! Pretty sure I know the answer. Quote
timesjoke Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Hey Bender, check this out: ABC News? Charles Gibson, who is being credited with stumping Sarah Palin on the definition of the ?Bush Doctrine,? has himself defined the nebulous phrase in a variety of ways, including one that mirrored Palin?s disputed explanation. Gibson and his colleagues have been all over the map in defining the Bush Doctrine over the last seven years. In 2001, Gibson himself defined it as ?a promise that all terrorists organizations with global reach will be found, stopped and defeated.? But when Palin tried to give a similar definition on Thursday, Gibson corrected her. ?I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell bent on destroying our nation,? Palin said in her first interview since being nominated as the GOP?s vice presidential candidate. Gibson countered: ?The Bush doctrine, as I understand it, is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense, that we have the right to a preemptive strike against any other country that we think is going to attack us.? Much has been made of the fact that Palin had to ask for clarification when Gibson inquired: ?Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?? ?In what respect, Charlie?? the Alaska governor said. ?The Bush ? well, what do you ? what do you interpret it to be?? Gibson challenged. ?His world view?? Palin queried. ?No, the Bush doctrine, enunciated September 2002, before the Iraq war,? Gibson said. That?s when Palin talked of ridding the world of ?Islamic extremism,? prompting Gibson to define the Bush Doctrine instead as preemption. The term ?Bush Doctrine? was first coined by columnist Charles Krauthammer three months before the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 and has undergone profound changes as the war against terror has evolved. ?There is no single meaning of the Bush Doctrine,? Krauthammer noted in a forthcoming column. ?In fact, there have been four distinct meanings, each one succeeding another over the eight years of this administration ? and the one Charlie Gibson cited is not the one in common usage today. It is utterly different.? Richard Starr, managing editor of the Weekly Standard, agreed. ?Gibson should of course have said in the first place what he understood the Bush Doctrine to be?and specified that he was asking a question about preemption,? Starr observed. ?Palin was well within bounds to have asked him to be more specific. Because, as it happens, the doctrine has no universally acknowledged single meaning.? Starr pointed out that other ABC journalists, including George Stephanolous, George Will and the late Peter Jennings, have defined the Bush Doctrine on the air in a variety of ways. Ben Smith of the Politico said the Bush Doctrine exchange was ?not a great moment? for Palin. But he conceded that critics are unfairly ?pouncing on Sarah Palin?s apparent unfamiliarity with the Bush Doctrine as last night?s gaffe.? ?This isn?t an easy question,? Smith noted. ?Commentators have offered a range of meanings for the phrase, from the principle that countries that harbor terrorists are responsible for their actions to broader statements about the spread of freedom.? Starr added: ?Preemptive war; American unilateralism; the overthrow of regimes that harbor and abet terrorists?all of these things and more have been described as the ?Bush Doctrine.? It was a bit of a sham on Gibson?s part to have pretended that there?s such a thing as ?the? Bush Doctrine, much less that it was enunciated in September 2002.? Man, time and time again the stuff these liberals keep trying to jump on Sarah's back for turns out to be nothing, I bet the Libs are pissing their pants right about now, lol. Quote
wez Posted September 13, 2008 Posted September 13, 2008 On social issues, Palin reiterated her opposition to abortion rights - parting with McCain, who supports legal abortion in cases of rape or incest. Palin would not allow those exceptions. She also said she opposes embryonic stem cell research, which McCain supports. My God.. any women who would vote for these two is out of her ever loving mind.... Quote
phreakwars Posted September 13, 2008 Posted September 13, 2008 I have come to the conclusion that anybody who thinks Palin is a decent VP pick, is nothing but a GOP apologist running with the herd. Gotta make up excuses for her the whole way through just because she is the GOP candidate.. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
phreakwars Posted September 13, 2008 Posted September 13, 2008 BUWAHAHAHAAA [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzhFDQIgGSg]YouTube - McCain: Mayors, Govs Don't Have Nat'l Security Experience[/ame] . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars
wez Posted September 13, 2008 Posted September 13, 2008 BUWAHAHAHAAA . . oooops. Can't wait to see how TJ blames Obama for this horrid attack of Sarah.. Quote
timesjoke Posted September 13, 2008 Posted September 13, 2008 I have come to the conclusion that anybody who thinks Palin is a decent VP pick, is nothing but a GOP apologist running with the herd. Gotta make up excuses for her the whole way through just because she is the GOP candidate.. . . And I have come to the conclusion that anybody who thinks Obama is prepared and qualified to be the President of the Unites States is a fool blinded by hatred of anything not Liberal and hollywood glitz. I giggle each time these liberals try to attack Palin on her experience from one direction or another when their choice for President (not Vice President) has absolutely no experience in being an executive in any capacity whatsoever. Domestic or otherwise. Obama has never run anything, as his own running mate said just a few months ago, the job of President does not lend itself to on the job training. If even his own running mate says Obama is not prepared to be President, maybe the people should consider that a clue................ Anyway, just to give you a bit of into Bender, did you know that people have always said the best combination for office is to have a Govenor as the VP? A govenor is considered to have experience on a State level that a Senator does not have. The President of the Unites States is doing more than dealing with Washington, he is governing the States as a collective and it has always been seen as wise to have a represenative in the Whitehouse who also brings a voice from them and not just have two big government types who don't think of the needs the States have. Quote
ImWithStupid Posted September 13, 2008 Posted September 13, 2008 I have come to the conclusion that anybody who thinks Palin is a decent VP pick, is nothing but a GOP apologist running with the herd. Gotta make up excuses for her the whole way through just because she is the GOP candidate.. . . I must be a psychic, GOP apologist running with the herd, because I've been talking of how promising a Republican candidate that Palin and Jindahl are, for about six months. Maybe I'll go into business writing fortunes for fortune cookies. I'm not sure where I'll get a typewriter that small though. . . . Quote
snafu Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 I have come to the conclusion that anybody who thinks Palin is a decent VP pick, is nothing but a GOP apologist running with the herd. Gotta make up excuses for her the whole way through just because she is the GOP candidate.. . . First of all I gotta tell ya I'm am extremely proud that Senator McCain picked my Governor from Alaska. Extremely! Second I am proud that we could have a conservative women on the ticket. I mean WOW! I'm still stunted with joy that I'm alive to see this happen. I would've voted for McCain anyway but the mere fact that Sarah is pro-life, pro-god and pro-gun, the three pro's I endorse with all my heart, makes me even happier she was picked for VP. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
timesjoke Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 I would've voted for McCain anyway but the mere fact that Sarah is pro-life, pro-god and pro-gun, the three pro's I endorse with all my heart, makes me even happier she was picked for VP. And the same three reasons are what is driving the Liberals overboard and ready to say anything to put her down. To hear these Liberal top leaders say she would be a step backwards for women if elected???????? Just stupid. I lost a lot of respect for my party when they started spending money like drunk Liberals but at least thy did not drown any girls while they were drunk. I have real hope that we will get this train back on the tracks with these two at the wheel. No matter what anyone says about Obama, they cannot fight one very important fact, he will "SEVERELY" increase government spending and cannot say how he is gonna get the money to cover the spending, somehtign that should scare the hell out of all Americans. Quote
Anna Perenna Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 I would've voted for McCain anyway but the mere fact that Sarah is pro-life, pro-god and pro-gun, the three pro's I endorse with all my heart, makes me even happier she was picked for VP. How can you be pro-life AND pro-gun? Personally, Sarah Palin is my idea of a nightmare. Yech. 1 Quote _______________________________________________________ I don't know how to put this, but ... I'm kind of a big deal. http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/da43a2f8a710897a421f74efa00eba9a.jpg I'm still here. I'm still a fool for the holy grail Not all gay men send me penis pictures. But no straight men do. And to date, no woman has sent me a picture of her vaginal canal.
snafu Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 First of all I gotta tell ya I'm am extremely proud that Senator McCain picked my Governor from Alaska. Extremely! Second I am proud that we could have a conservative women on the ticket. I mean WOW! I'm still stunted with joy that I'm alive to see this happen. I would've voted for McCain anyway but the mere fact that Sarah is pro-life, pro-god and pro-gun, the three pro's I endorse with all my heart, makes me even happier she was picked for VP. How can you be pro-life AND pro-gun? Personally, Sarah Palin is my idea of a nightmare. Yech. It dose sound like an oxymoron. I guess it depends on what spices of life were talking about. I mean I like a hambuger once in a while. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
Anna Perenna Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 It dose sound like an oxymoron. I guess it depends on what spices of life were talking about. I'm anti-gun and pro-choice (not pro-abortion, as many red-faced & ranting republicans like to imagine it means) As for being pro-god, I don't think religion should play a part in politics. Quote _______________________________________________________ I don't know how to put this, but ... I'm kind of a big deal. http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/da43a2f8a710897a421f74efa00eba9a.jpg I'm still here. I'm still a fool for the holy grail Not all gay men send me penis pictures. But no straight men do. And to date, no woman has sent me a picture of her vaginal canal.
snafu Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 I'm anti-gun and pro-choice (not pro-abortion, as many red-faced & ranting republicans like to imagine it means) As for being pro-god, I don't think religion should play a part in politics. Well you don't have to have a gun. Nobodies making you keep one in your house. However my rights to deafened myself should not be infringed because you think by some miracle we could eradicate evil to where we wouldn't need them. Keep on dreaming baby. Second you can play label and word games but we both know where each others heads are at. I don't believe in a right to take another innocent life. At all! My views are exactly like Palins. No abortions even in incest or rape cases. A medical procedure to save the life of the mother would be the only reason for an abortion. Third I believe god should be a factor as only 16% of the worlds population are atheist. God is a big factor and even atheist's can't deny that. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
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