parting is such sweet sorrow

[wez]

Are you kidding me?!

 

Wez is just as, if not more guilty of that than TJ...

You afford Wez privileges that you have taken from TJ...

I'm calling you on it... If you don't see the hypocrisy in what you have done, you really have to re approach this decision by asking, maybe by secure and secret thread, just what people have to say about it...

 

I think you'll find that you are being unfair, and that people don't have the balls to speak up for someone if that someone seems to be losing...

 

IT'S NOT RIGHT...

 

I am a very fair man... I speak up for people even when the only thing I have to gain but the moral satisfaction of knowing I stood up for what I think was right...

 

 

What the hell do you think you know about anything? Don't associate me with TJ.. or anyone else.

[Guest Unregistered]

you must be just garden variety nutz.

[Guest Fullauto]

Well TJ.. when old baggage shows up here, I'll do what I please.. If the admins here think I'm out of line, they'll do something about it.. Don't ya think?

..

 

That's what we are fighting for... try to keep up... You've done the same things that TJ has been banned for, and yet you are here still... It's not right...

 

Both or None... what's right is right...

[Guest timesjoke2]

Well TJ.. when old baggage shows up here, I'll do what I please.. If the admins here think I'm out of line, they'll do something about it.. Don't ya think?

 

You brought the old baggage Wez, others keep asking you to follow forum policy and leave the garbage from other forums on those forums, it is you chasing others around harassing them, if you dropped it all none of these discussions would ever happen.

 

As far as the staff, well they have ignored your violations of the rules for over a year, I can only guess as to their motives for giving you a free pass to break the rules but guessing I would say they believe the forum needs some spice and as long as that spice does not ruin the flavor of their meal, all it good in their world.

 

 

btw.. what do you know about it? Nothing? Thought so..

 

I know that you have been crying about some supposed abuse at the hands of eddo for over a year straight. The rules directly speak on what your doing and if the rules were followed you should have been banned over a year ago.

 

JustBS is not these other sites your crying about, I should not know anything about any of it because it has nothing to do with "THIS" site.

 

 

 

You know, I have always been a tad hard headed, I can easily admit that, but most of the problems I have had with the staff is because of their refusal to deal with you. Your completely free to do and say anything you want no matter how many rules you break and it just boggles my mind to be completely honest.

 

I would not be as critical of Bender and company if not for the free pass they have given to you.

[wez]

That's what we are fighting for... try to keep up... You've done the same things that TJ has been banned for, and yet you are here still... It's not right...

 

Both or None... what's right is right...

 

If I did the same things as TJ.. I'd be banned.

[Guest Fullauto]

What the hell do you think you know about anything? Don't associate me with TJ.. or anyone else.

 

Save it... you don't have a dog in this fight... this is about undoing some shyt that was wrong, and speaking the truth...

 

speaking the truth is not something I've seen you so alot around here...

 

How's that 10% APY loan you made to your friend?

You're a LIAR... You're not 39... a 39 year old would know the BEST APY your going to get on a CD or even loaning to a buddy is 6.1 aprx... and I mean BEST ! ! It had better be a startup in 100% efficient solar power tech or something...but You're wealthy right?! Your debt free!? But you can't afford to get off Dial up!?

 

If you are 39, you are the MOST pathetic 39 year old EVER!

 

Come clean... You must see that TJ getting banned was some Scheissebauer! (BS)

And if you don't admit that, just that shred, than I will never take anything you, or the admins here say seriously... They are MODERATORS... They should be centrists by rule, and this has proven them otherwise...

 

What's right is right... Both or None...

[wez]

You brought the old baggage Wez, others keep asking you to follow forum policy and leave the garbage from other forums on those forums, it is you chasing others around harassing them, if you dropped it all none of these discussions would ever happen.

 

As far as the staff, well they have ignored your violations of the rules for over a year, I can only guess as to their motives for giving you a free pass to break the rules but guessing I would say they believe the forum needs some spice and as long as that spice does not ruin the flavor of their meal, all it good in their world.

 

 

 

 

I know that you have been crying about some supposed abuse at the hands of eddo for over a year straight. The rules directly speak on what your doing and if the rules were followed you should have been banned over a year ago.

 

JustBS is not these other sites your crying about, I should not know anything about any of it because it has nothing to do with "THIS" site.

 

 

 

You know, I have always been a tad hard headed, I can easily admit that, but most of the problems I have had with the staff is because of their refusal to deal with you. Your completely free to do and say anything you want no matter how many rules you break and it just boggles my mind to be completely honest.

 

I would not be as critical of Bender and company if not for the free pass they have given to you.

 

 

TJ.. it's over.. if you want a post on some topic.. let me know.

[wez]

Save it... you don't have a dog in this fight... this is about undoing some shyt that was wrong, and speaking the truth...

 

speaking the truth is not something I've seen you so alot around here...

 

How's that 10% APY loan you made to your friend?

You're a LIAR... You're not 39... a 39 year old would know the BEST APY your going to get on a CD or even loaning to a buddy is 6.1 aprx... and I mean BEST ! ! It had better be a startup in 100% efficient solar power tech or something...but You're wealthy right?! Your debt free!? But you can't afford to get off Dial up!?

 

If you are 39, you are the MOST pathetic 39 year old EVER!

 

Come clean... You must see that TJ getting banned was some Scheissebauer! (BS)

And if you don't admit that, just that shred, than I will never take anything you, or the admins here say seriously... They are MODERATORS... They should be centrists by rule, and this has proven them otherwise...

 

What's right is right... Both or None...

 

 

Jealousy will get you nothing but sorrow.. and it's 9%, dumbass.

 

Here's a little tip.. maybe things like dial up and a mobile home kept me free.. something to think about. Never said I was wealthy.. far from it.. yes, debt free.. Would high speed impress you? I'll get it when I NEED it..

 

It's a landscape supply company. Do some work on the side for em too.. when I want to.

 

Trust me, you're arguing the wrong argument and it holds no water.. I'm not TJ.. like I told him 1000 times.

[Guest timesjoke2]

If I did the same things as TJ.. I'd be banned.

 

 

He is right, he is not doing the same thing as me, he is doing much worse.

 

While I my be complaining, at least it is about issues pertaining to "THIS" forum, Wez is complaining about things from "OTHER" forums.

 

 

My complaining is not a violation of the rules of "THIS" forum.

 

 

Wez complaining about things happening on "OTHER" forums is a violation of the rules on "THIS" forum.

[wez]

He is right, he is not doing the same thing as me, he is doing much worse.

 

While I my be complaining, at least it is about issues pertaining to "THIS" forum, Wez is complaining about things from "OTHER" forums.

 

 

My complaining is not a violation of the rules of "THIS" forum.

 

 

Wez complaining about things happening on "OTHER" forums is a violation of the rules on "THIS" forum.

 

 

Like you trying to get me banned before for that til you went crying about this forum to The Jungle? Didn't think so.. you're TJ.

 

Let's see.. Mrs. K came here trashing me and I brought what?

 

Give it up TJ.. you fool no one. Cept eddo and flo.. oh yeah.. and brotherman.

[Guest Fullauto]

As much as I disagree with you wez, If this ever happened to you, I would be the first to call someone on it...

 

What's right is right...

[wez]

Here's a little advice at what got TJ banned flo.. claiming the admins can't run their own site and insulting their intelligence to try to manipulate them into doing his bidding.. sound familiar? Maybe you should stop doing what TJ did before the same thing happens to you.. that would suck.. then we'd have 2 banned whiners in the free for all crying wez this and wez that..

 

You're TJ.. not me.

 

Big enough dog for ya?

[DaMan]

Are you kidding me?!

 

Wez is just as, if not more guilty of that than TJ...

You afford Wez privileges that you have taken from TJ...

I'm calling you on it... If you don't see the hypocrisy in what you have done, you really have to re approach this decision by asking, maybe by secure and secret thread, just what people have to say about it...

 

I think you'll find that you are being unfair, and that people don't have the balls to speak up for someone if that someone seems to be losing...

 

IT'S NOT RIGHT...

 

I am a very fair man... I speak up for people even when the only thing I have to gain but the moral satisfaction of knowing I stood up for what I think was right...

I respect you as a poster going back to he wpyo days. You weren't here when the first banning of tj went down. Believe me Bender didn't just ban him on a whim this time. The same things that caused his banning before was starting over again. I'll give tj this. He is the person responsible for our rules. Unfortunately for him he interprets them differently than everyone else. I don't want to ever have to ban anyone. In this case neither IWS, Bender or myself could take the bs any more. The ultimate goal of tj is to get rid of wez. The rules were set in place and are enforced equally for everyone. Wez was banned, idiot boxed and censored. This of course was never enough for tj. When we had enough we banned him. Everything ran well until tj came back. My iniatial reaction when I saw tj was unbanned was to ban him again outright. Especially after the way he bad mouthed this site as well as saying it would go downhill with gone and wez remaining. You know what? The site actually became more active with users coming back that were run off by the constant tj rants against wez. They spilled to every thread.

 

Now here's the deal. You have posted at other forums that this forum is a deadzone and that people shouldn't waste their time here. Yet as soon as the ban is lifted you're back. Then when you're banned for the same reasons a second time you continue to hang on by posting in the guest forum. My advice is to leave and go back to the utopia of your forum if you really run one.

[Guest Unregistered]

Like you trying to get me banned before for that til you went crying about this forum to The Jungle? Didn't think so.. you're TJ.

 

I never tried to get you banned, I was trying to get you under control, as we see your still out of control attacking phantom now, she has not done anything to earn being treated this way on this forum but still there you are, treating her like sh t to feed your own desire for revenge for things that have happened on other forums.

 

 

Let's see.. Mrs. K came here trashing me and I brought what?

 

Give it up TJ.. you fool no one. Cept eddo and flo.. oh yeah.. and brotherman.

 

Bad example Wez, Wrs. K got slammed for what she did, I don't think she was banned but one comment against you here and she was severely warned and given infraction points and told a banning would follow, just one Wez, you have violated this rule hundreds of times and have never been banned.

 

 

Why was she blasted for doing something your allowed to do without comment?

[Guest Fullauto]

CANT WE ALL JUST HATE EACH OTHER LIKE RESPECTABLE ADULTS ! ! !

 

It Used to be so easy!

 

Wait a minute! I'm the Nazi Satanist! You guys should be hating me!

maybe I can misdirect all this drama into something Useful!

 

Now let's start a good old fashioned hate fest!

 

Enki/Satan was the good guy, and the Jews have corrupted everything!

you can quote me on it!

 

Lets slip the tongues of WAR ! ! !

 

PS: Cloaked... danke for setting the record straight... I still think his posts are worthy of another shot, but if you say he's a pain, then so it is... Like so many situations these days..(cough cough GOD), if the authority would just be heard a bit more often it would save alot of pain...

[wez]

I never tried to get you banned, I was trying to get you under control, as we see your still out of control attacking phantom now, she has not done anything to earn being treated this way on this forum but still there you are, treating her like sh t to feed your own desire for revenge for things that have happened on other forums.

 

 

 

 

Bad example Wez, Wrs. K got slammed for what she did, I don't think she was banned but one comment against you here and she was severely warned and given infraction points and told a banning would follow, just one Wez, you have violated this rule hundreds of times and have never been banned.

 

 

Why was she blasted for doing something your allowed to do without comment?

 

 

Well TJ.. you know nothing about me and phantom.. or me and Mrs. K.. or much of anything else. I don't need to be under your control.. that was the problem in the first place.

 

Now like I said.. you want a post on something specific.. let me know.. come around.. we'll debate, bs.. whatever.. you don't want me to participate in the discussion, just say so.. I'll make it for you and not post in it anyways..

 

If you didn't notice, your buddy eddo said "I don't have a problem with TJ being banned (his constant whining was freaking annoying as hell).. or something to that effect.. and I don't see him or anyone else here offering you what I am..

 

That's the last word I'm gonna say about it TJ.. You want a post like I said, let me know, and I'll make it for you.

[Guest Timesjoke2]

Well Cloaked,

 

I won't get into a long arguement with you, this is your house and you run it the way you want but I call Bullsh t on the claim of rules being enforced equally.

 

How do you explain ignoring Wez's chasing eddo around for over a year about the crap from other forums?

 

There is no ambiguity in the rule against bringing the dirty laundry from other forums to this forum, but Wez has done this non stop for over a year.

 

Yes, Wez has gotten several slaps on the wrist and has never learned a single lesson from those punnishments, he is still doing the exact same things over and over without hesitation or a speck of self-control.

 

 

 

 

Do you want to know what I was really doing Cloaked?

 

I was showing you guys what it is like to be bombarded with crazy man tactics without stop. I was showing you all how the rest of us feel when dealing with Wez. And what did you do when faced with what we face?

 

You wanted the problem removed, I had to be silenced because you did not like having to deal with it, well the rest of us want Wez to stop with his lunacy just as much but we don't have access to the ban button like you do so we rely on the staff to "MODERATE" for us and take care of the crazy man tactics.

 

But you refuse.

 

Why force your members to be subjected to things you refuse to be subjected to?

 

 

Double standards?

 

Do as I say, not as I do?

[snafu]

I agree with Fullauto too. And I was here for the first banning. TJ took the criticism from IWS personal when in my opinion IWS was trying to be fair and balanced. TJ should'a noticed this as IWS holds the same values as TJ. So the only reason I could see TJ for being banned the first time was he couldn't shut up and wanted to point fingers at the mods for favoritism. But other than that they both have the same tactics. They bait and bagger. The only difference is one is far right and the other is far left.

[wez]

I agree with Fullauto too. And I was here for the first banning. TJ took the criticism from IWS personal when in my opinion IWS was trying to be fair and balanced. TJ should'a noticed this as IWS holds the same values as TJ. So the only reason I could see TJ for being banned the first time was he couldn't shut up and wanted to point fingers at the mods for favoritism. But other than that they both have the same tactics. They bait and bagger. The only difference is one is far right and the other is far left.

 

Not far left snaf.. wez.

 

And cept for the difference that I don't try to take control of a website so I can decide who everyone likes and dislikes through mob mentality, manipulation, and bannings .. I stand on my own two feet and cry to no one to come to my aid because I can't let something go or win an argument without a gang of insulters and liars crying to ban my "opponent".

 

 

Bait and badger? You bet.. It's a gift..

 

I happen to love baiters and badgerers.. don't you?

 

Shoulda seen me as a kid.. why.. why.. why.. why.. why.. why.. why.. why.. hahahahaha... Don't know how the folks didn't end up in straight jackets.. Aint changed a bit.. Only get better.. Like Aery said I am.. the minutia is where the fruit is..

 

Good thing for me my folks were patient, and I had a dad who couldn't lie to save his life. He never bothered to try..

[wez]

Hey TJ.. what's eddo's part in that? Complete Christian innocence? Should he be banned too? Or just me?

 

Please explain

[wez]

Is this the issue TJ...

 

 

Do as you say, not as you do, or else?

[Guest timesjoke2]

I agree with Fullauto too. And I was here for the first banning. TJ took the criticism from IWS personal when in my opinion IWS was trying to be fair and balanced. TJ should'a noticed this as IWS holds the same values as TJ. So the only reason I could see TJ for being banned the first time was he couldn't shut up and wanted to point fingers at the mods for favoritism. But other than that they both have the same tactics. They bait and bagger. The only difference is one is far right and the other is far left.

 

 

While I admit to using all sorts of tactics in debates, 99% of what I was doing against the staff was pretend. I was never really offended much by IWS, the two of us are so much alike I knew how to push his buttons while staying completely inside the rules.

 

IWS was the front line of the staff decision to allow Wez to do anything he wished so he was the main target for showing the staff what it was like to have a constant stream of garbage in their faces like Wez was putting in our faces.

 

I actually like IWS, I just could not really get into liking him and keep up appearances as the wacko man who was being irritating as hell but not giving them a valid reason for removing me.

 

 

IWS, Bender, and Cloaked, the frustration and confusion you have all felt trying to deal with me being so irrational is "EXACTLY" what the rest of us feel trying to deal with Wez. If you could not handle the frustration, why force us to deal with it?

 

 

I am sorry for playing this role against you, truly I am but words just did not seem to be enough to describe what we were trying to convey because try and try again, still nothing was done. Still today, nothing has been done. A year later and Wez is still the same broken record chasing eddo around the forum crying about how eddo treated him poorly on other forums.

 

 

Maybe this does not get old to you three because it is not directed at you but it sure irritates the rest of us trying to have real discussions instead of kindergarden screaming matches.

 

 

If you still cannot understand where we are comming from with how frustrated we feel in dealing with a madman like Wez, then I don't know what else to say, your reaction in dealing with a madman was to silence and ban the madman, why believe me or anyone else is bad for wanting the same thing you wanted?

 

A little peace.

[wez]

 

 

If you still cannot understand where we are comming from with how frustrated we feel in dealing with a madman like Wez, then I don't know what else to say, your reaction in dealing with a madman was to silence and ban the madman, why believe me or anyone else is bad for wanting the same thing you wanted?

 

A little peace.

 

Who's we? Who do you have authority to speak for here? Name names..

 

Please explain

[snafu]

http://Off Topic Forum.com/news-information-and-bug-reports/28004-free-speech-forum-2.html#post74451

[snafu]

..

 

Please explain

 

me man! Don't sound like my grandaughter! "But why?" Well hon becuse it takes money. "but why grandpa?" Well nothings for free sugar. "But why is that granda?"