ImWithStupid Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Or do you mean like this.... But, wez, you and Shiek said I was a lazy idiot who only believed what the west said about Russia's motives, and the US and the west was the bad guy iin the Georgia situation. You must mean debating like this accusation that never ocurred as you took something personal that sheik said and I agreed with that had nothing to do with you from our perspective as you accused us of "trying to bait you into an argument for the last week".. Right? To which we replied.. I never said anything of the sort about you. If what I said offended you, you should ask yourself why.. Please find where I said you were a lazy idiot. And dont around with one of my posts. Maybe I don't actually debate as you said by "calling people names" but rather you call yourself names and then claim me and sheik did it so you can claim we called you names to win a "debate" and then judge me a childish, name calling debater like TJ a few weeks down the line? .. Sounds a bit strange to me, but hell, whatever you say.. I'll try it sometime.. Does it really work? Not sure about you, but I don't consider my childish interactions with eddo or TJ, "debating".. But the previous example was you indeed, "debating".. Looks like something straight out of timesjoke tactics: How to debate like the last vestige of hope. I don't know what would make me think you were insulting me when I was the only one debating you and Sheik when you had this interaction... I've come to se that we are all vulnerable to this . It starts with the perpetual one sidedness of a story in the media. If you dont appraise the story critically' date=' and strip away all the spin, you're done for[/color']. I've learned to see which side the presenter is on, and what it is s/he wants me to believe. Its like a discrete soft-war that is constantly being fought for the minds of lazy people. Very well said, sheik.. and unfortunately true. Insidious.. and ingenius. Just because you say it isn't so, doesn't make it that way. By the way, I never said you called me a "lazy idiot" (nice spin though). I said this... I'm glad I had no idea what I was talking about when i said that Russia was just trying to do what the old USSR did by claiming buffer nations, and expanding it's empire by taking over other nations territory. It seems that wez and sheik were right that Russia was just an innocent party in the war with Georgia and South Ossetia. Kremlin announces that South Ossetia will join 'one united Russian state' - Times Online I was such an, uninformed idiot, with a weak and lazy mind, who only believed what I read from "western press" and didn't take into consideration the stories from the The Moscow Times, my PERSONAL experience when in Russia, or historical models of Russian methods, when I condemed their operations and motives to grab more territory. You guys were much more informed with your, I hate my country and you are an idiot if you believe what you read, mentality. Bit of a difference.
wez Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 I don't know what would make me think you were insulting me when I was the only one debating you and Sheik when you had this interaction... Errrrrrr... sheik made a statement that included everyone.. and it is true.. I really don't think he was directing it at you.. have to ask him but pretty sure not. I wasn't.. Matter of fact I myself said that I had been brainwashed since birth before that. For whatever reason you seemed to think sheik and I were part of some conspiracy theory to... ummmmm.. I don't know.. what were we doing to you again? Just because you say it isn't so, doesn't make it that way. Right.. It's that way cause that's the way it is.. not cause I said so.. By the way, I never said you called me a "lazy idiot" (nice spin though). I said this... Bit of a difference. What did I spin? Musta forgot this.. seems to be a lot of that lately.. But, wez, you and Shiek said I was a lazy idiot who only believed what the west said about Russia's motives, and the US and the west was the bad guy iin the Georgia situation. Ooooops .. nice spin yourself.. TJ light.. aka.. The second to the last vestige of hope. Are you saying I forged that and made it up? Hahahahahahaha
wez Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 Yea, because anything in this thread can be considered mature debate not playground antics. Don't scarey ban stick yourself too hard.. everyones gotta have a bit - o - fun now and then.
ImWithStupid Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 What did I spin? Musta forgot this.. seems to be a lot of that lately.. But, wez, you and Shiek said I was a lazy idiot who only believed what the west said about Russia's motives, and the US and the west was the bad guy iin the Georgia situation. Ooooops .. nice spin yourself.. TJ light.. aka.. The second to the last vestige of hope. Are you saying I forged that and made it up? Hahahahahahaha Yea, no spin. You seemed to take a page out of the DNC playbook and only talk about part of the quote and make it appear as to be fact. I think I quantified my paraphrase with the rest of my post after you posted an article supporting my "uninformed" arguement... But, wez, you and Shiek said I was a lazy idiot who only believed what the west said about Russia's motives, and the US and the west was the bad guy iin the Georgia situation. I suppose you probably believe Putin's claim that the US set off this confrontation. I am such an uninformed idiot, with a lazy mind,
ImWithStupid Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Don't scarey ban stick yourself too hard.. everyones gotta have a bit - o - fun now and then. What the hell does a ban stick have to do with this line of discussion? More spin?
wez Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Yea, no spin. You seemed to take a page out of the DNC playbook and only talk about part of the quote and make it appear as to be fact. I think I quantified my paraphrase with the rest of my post after you posted an article supporting my "uninformed" arguement... hahahaha.. don't you mean the "liberal" playbook, TJ light? Originally Posted by ImWithStupid I suppose you probably believe Putin's claim that the US set off this confrontation. I am such an uninformed idiot, with a lazy mind, and this changes what? Seems you were reiterating and reinforcing that we indeed called you a "lazy idiot" to me.. which of course, we didn't. So we called you "uninformed" too? Is that what I spun out of there? hahahaha
wez Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 What the hell does a ban stick have to do with this line of discussion? More spin? A ban stick for your childish debate style..
ImWithStupid Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 hahahaha.. don't you mean the "liberal" playbook, TJ light? No. I know the difference between the DNC and a liberal, just as I know the difference between the RNC and a real conservative.
ImWithStupid Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 TJ light? By the way. Your weak attempts to bait me, don't work. I'm quite secure in my own identity. Have fun though.
wez Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 By the way. You're weak attempts to bait me, don't work. I'm quite secure in my own identity. Have fun though. I did, thanks for the laughs.. And now you didn't come judge me TJ the other night.. and I'm all the sudden baiting you? Hmmmmmm... who does that sound like? Mr. I'm innocent.. blah blah?, the last vestige of hope? Don't be too sore bud, just think before you judge me next time.
ImWithStupid Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 I did, thanks for the laughs.. And now you didn't come judge me TJ the other night.. and I'm all the sudden baiting you? Hmmmmmm... who does that sound like? Mr. I'm innocent.. blah blah?, the last vestige of hope? Don't be too sore bud, just think before you judge me next time. I didn't mean to say you "were" TJ, I was saying that you aren't able to drop something, and let it go, when I was referring to the self control of a two year old. Don't worry, I rarely get sore. Sometimes a bit annoyed, though.
wez Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 I didn't mean to say you "were" TJ, I was saying that you aren't able to drop something, and let it go, when I was referring to the self control of a two year old. I like to call it determination.. perseverance.. drive.. gifts from my maker.. fine qualities, wouldn't you agree? And it seems to me only a person who themselves can't drop something would care.. Hmmmmmmmmmm.. You know I love ya bud..
ImWithStupid Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 I like to call it determination.. perseverance.. drive.. gifts from my maker.. fine qualities, wouldn't you agree? And it seems to me only a person who themselves can't drop something would care.. Hmmmmmmmmmm.. You know I love ya bud..
Chi Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Forgive her for backing Obama. She's from Chicago. She's been indoctrinated in the corrupt Chicago/Daley Democratic Machine Politics. Actually, I can't stand Daley. I think he is useless.
Chi Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Go blow a polar bear, fatso. Fatso? I do need to lose a few, but sheesh.... And I refuse to blow a polar bear. I don't care how extinct they are becoming!
Chi Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Why should I make excuses for you? You don't have to make excuses for me, unless you want to:)
Guest Fullauto Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 PLEASE TJ... I can't endure Wez anymore... I need too tag you into the ring... he's killing me!
wez Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 PLEASE TJ... I can't endure Wez anymore... I need too tag you into the ring... he's killing me! He's been chewed up and spit out too many times already by the big bad wez..... better find someone else.. how about eddo?
Guest Fullauto Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 He's been chewed up and spit out too many times already by the big bad wez..... better find someone else.. how about eddo? eddo is an enigma to me, and anyone not bold enough to catch my attention will certainly not make any impression standing next to me! I will have to keep searching for my radical centrist counterpart!
wez Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 eddo is an enigma to me, and anyone not bold enough to catch my attention will certainly not make any impression standing next to me! I will have to keep searching for my radical centrist counterpart! Call Rush Limbaugh.. wouldn't mind a piece of his fat ass..
Guest Fullauto Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 Please TJ... I can't endure this much longer! ROFLMAO ! ! 1
wez Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 Please TJ... I can't endure this much longer! ROFLMAO ! ! 1 He is the last vestige of hope... I'm sure he can insult, hypocritize and mind f ck me into submission this time without crying about getting what he gives! Just like you..
Guest timesjoke2 Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 I have been gone a few days, spending time at the river house and then have been under the weather Sunday evening to today, I figured I would pop in and say hi to everyone, good to see Wez is showing his true self being a complete azz as usual. Everyone have a nice day.
RoyalOrleans Posted September 30, 2008 Posted September 30, 2008 I have been gone a few days, spending time at the river house and then have been under the weather Sunday evening to today, I figured I would pop in and say hi to everyone, good to see Wez is showing his true self being a complete azz as usual. Everyone have a nice day. It's amazing. Just amazing! It's amazing how much I don't care. To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
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