Democrats defeat GOP plan on mortgage rates

[phreakwars]

Here's yet another alleged pork obstructionist complaint.

 

-- $1.2 billion to provide "youth" with summer jobs

Gee, a program where we put teenagers to work being useful. Yeah, total pork there. It's better we as parents give them an allowance each week. Yeah, good thinking "DADDY WARBUCKS". Cut that "PORK" out.

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[ImWithStupid]

Here's yet another alleged pork obstructionist complaint.

 

Gee, a program where we put teenagers to work being useful. Yeah, total pork there. It's better we as parents give them an allowance each week. Yeah, good thinking "DADDY WARBUCKS". Cut that "PORK" out.

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I don't think some temporary summer jobs for teenagers is a big factor in helping the economy.

 

All this is, is a payoff to New York state.

 

http://Off Topic Forum.com/on-topic-bs/17523-more-liberal-logic.html#post47161

[snafu]

I can't watch the videos here at work but I got to agree with Bender on the honey bees. We are in a agriculture crises because of the bees. Protecting these bees protect a lot of jobs.

[ImWithStupid]

I can't watch the videos here at work but I got to agree with Bender on the honey bees. We are in a agriculture crises because of the bees. Protecting these bees protect a lot of jobs.

 

What I'm saying is, this money will go to research on what is causing the honey bee decline. The stimulus is supposed to be for an immediate jump start to the economy. Honey bee research doesn't do that.

 

Is it meaningful? Yes. Immediately stimulutive? No.

 

Put it in a normal bill, not an emergency bill.

[ImWithStupid]

Nevermind. Chuck Schumer says we don't care if they load up legislation with "pork".

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEfICUoWKBw]YouTube - Schumer: The American People Don't Care About Pork Projects In Stimulus[/ame]

 

What an arrogant, ignorant, liberal, arse.

[ImWithStupid]

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[phreakwars]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ_FU9pzV-E]YouTube - Headzup: Rush Limbaugh VS. A Homeless Woman[/ame]

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[Chi]

You know, I'm actually pretty complacent about what Obama and Congress have done so far.

 

I by pass the skeptics and worry warts who proclaim they know that "IT'S NOT GONNA WORK".

 

Tax cuts don't build roads. Tax cuts don't create jobs. They haven't for the last 8 years so there is no point of following the same experiment twice and expecting a different result.

 

Republicans WANT the guy to fail, they want it just so they can laugh in the face of 365 electoral votes worth of support for not only the President, but the Senate and House as well.

 

A power trip senseless moan by the obstructionist party of America.

 

You complain about a stimulus but have no complaints on a congress passing trillions out the door for a BS war.

 

Not seeing the problem here... let the "PORK" ride, beats building more M-16's.

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Exactly! That's where all of our money is at and still going, to Iraq! Money that we need and don't have for ourselves.

 

Why did we bomb the crap out of them just to rebuild? They hate our guts anyways. They can rebuild themselves, they have the resources. They have an almost 80 BILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS! While we on the other hand, are in debt, near (if not in) depression and pretty much China's bitch.

 

But nooo, Bush did an excellent job and dumps all of this mess on someone else and all you people do is complain at every thing Obama attemps to do to fix this mess. Unbelievable...

[ImWithStupid]

Why did we bomb the crap out of them just to rebuild? They hate our guts anyways. They can rebuild themselves, they have the resources. They have an almost 80 BILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS! While we on the other hand, are in debt, near (if not in) depression and pretty much China's bitch.

 

Spending money on roads projects, doesn't create jobs. It creates temporary work. When the project is done, the job is gone.

 

As for the surplus you are talking about, it's a lie. It was a projection of what Iraq might have by the end of 2008, made in August, when oil was $140. At $40 a gallon, Iraq is hurting just like Russia, Venezuela and Mexico are.

[Chi]

Spending money on roads projects, doesn't create jobs. It creates temporary work. When the project is done, the job is gone..

 

It most definitely not only creates, but maintains jobs. The roads don't build themselves. There are always roads and structures that need fixing. So no, the job is never done.

 

As for the surplus you are talking about, it's a lie. It was a projection of what Iraq might have by the end of 2008, made in August, when oil was $140. At $40 a gallon, Iraq is hurting just like Russia, Venezuela and Mexico are.

 

According to the Government Acountability Office between 2005 & 2007 Iraq accumulated more than 29 billion dollars in surplus after expenditures. This is no lie or projection.

[ImWithStupid]

It most definitely not only creates, but maintains jobs. The roads don't build themselves. There are always roads and structures that need fixing. So no, the job is never done.

 

So in effect, you agree with me that it doesn't meet the goal of the stimulus to be timely, targeted and temporary as both Pres Obama and Larry Summers has said.

 

This is never ending government spending.

 

Also, just because there is another job, it doesn't mean the company you work for will get the project, or there will be one in your area.

 

According to the Government Acountability Office between 2005 & 2007 Iraq accumulated more than 29 billion dollars in surplus after expenditures. This is no lie or projection.

 

You said $80 billion in surplus.

 

It also doesn't take into account that after their economy was destroyed they need that surplus to be kept in their reserve bank to keep their system from collapsing. They can't spend it or their currency would be worthless.

 

It's not a liquid surplus.

[phreakwars]

So according to this poster, the answer is clear... TAX THE RICH MORE. Look at the lower right corner. A 4.2% TAX ON THE RICHEST 1% = $700 BILLION

 

PROBLEM SOLVED !!

 

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[ImWithStupid]

So according to this poster, the answer is clear... TAX THE RICH MORE. Look at the lower right corner. A 4.2% TAX ON THE RICHEST 1% = $700 BILLION

 

PROBLEM SOLVED !!

 

Sure, If you want is to accomplish is the stuff in the poster and cause more people to lose their jobs.

[phreakwars]

Man, just look at all this PORK going to Nebraska

 

Stimulus Watch: Keeping an Eye on Economic Recovery Spending

 

$380,458,530 worth !!

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[ImWithStupid]

Man, just look at all this PORK going to Nebraska

 

Stimulus Watch: Keeping an Eye on Economic Recovery Spending

 

$380,458,530 worth !!

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Most of it is just sickening.

 

I wonder how they know this, since they haven't released the bill yet.

 

Hmm.

[phreakwars]

Most of it is just sickening.

 

I wonder how they know this, since they haven't released the bill yet.

 

Hmm.

I agree, some of these won't even create jobs and should be dropped, like these for instance:

 

Patrol car video systems Staffing of Police Officers Mobile command post [/url] Digital recording and transcription Forensic lab improvement project Ballistic improvement project Crime scene investigation mobile unit Public place CCTV enhancement GPS locators for patrol cars Information/intelligence display upgrade

[ImWithStupid]

I agree, some of these won't even create jobs and should be dropped, like these for instance:

 

Patrol car video systems Lincoln NE 0 $852,000 Public Safety -4 Staffing of Police Officers Lincoln NE 9 $486,000 Public Safety -2 Mobile command post Lincoln NE 0 $216,000 Public Safety -3 Digital recording and transcription Lincoln NE 0 $165,000 Public Safety -2 Forensic lab improvement project Lincoln NE 0 $150,000 Public Safety -2 Ballistic improvement project Lincoln NE 0 $125,000 Public Safety -4 Crime scene investigation mobile unit Lincoln NE 0 $120,000 Public Safety -3 Public place CCTV enhancement Lincoln NE 0 $80,000 Public Safety -2 GPS locators for patrol cars Lincoln NE 0 $71,000 Public Safety -3 Information/intelligence display upgrade Lincoln NE 0 $46,500 Public Safety -3 Replace 9 current HandiVan hybrid vehicles Lincoln NE 0 $1,000,000 Transit -2 Replace current HandiVan diesel vehicles Lincoln NE 0 $584,000 Transit -1

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Other than the staffing of police officers, I agree. Not necessary in an emergency bill that's supposed to be an economic stimulus package.

[phreakwars]

I wonder how they know this, since they haven't released the bill yet.

 

This is a site where you can vote on the importance of the projects. Obama made it clear that he was going to setup a website where people can give input on projects so that the money was spent where it was needed. THERE ARE NO PORK PROJECTS IN THE STIMULUS CONTRARY TO WHAT RUSH IS TELLING YOU.

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[ImWithStupid]

This is a site where you can vote on the importance of the projects. Obama made it clear that he was going to setup a website where people can give input on projects so that the money was spent where it was needed. THERE ARE NO PORK PROJECTS IN THE STIMULUS CONTRARY TO WHAT RUSH IS TELLING YOU.

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I understand why the new clubhouse at the golf course is needed.

[phreakwars]

It's not a question of need, but rather who gets funding for what, just because someone in a town submits a request for a golf course clubhouse doesn't mean they are gonna get the funds for it... that's called OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

 

Bookmark Recovery.Gov , that page will soon show the projects and allow people to comment on them whether they are worthwhile or not, if they seem like PORK, then let the people say so.

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