Guest Michael Gray Posted September 1, 2006 Posted September 1, 2006 On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:59:20 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: - Refer: <u8bhf2dmgvo52m87dg2bctmb4c4b6035h5@4ax.com> >On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:06:18 -0400, Darrell Stec ><darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote in alt.atheism > >>After serious contemplation, on or about Thursday 31 August 2006 11:18 >>pm Michael Gray perhaps from fleetg@newsguy.spam.com wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:42:27 -0400, Darrell Stec >>> <darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote: >>> - Refer: <4lolc4F309ikU1@individual.net> >>> : >>>>Australia is not in the bible. Apparently you do not exist either. >>>>How >>> >>> I guess you must be right. >>> That lets me out of paying taxes then! > >>Whew! For a minute there I thought you might point out that the >>Americas weren't in the bible either and so I couldn't exist. > >How could he speak of what and who doesn't exist? So, I'm banned from speak about Christian moral integrity then, eh? Quote
Guest Michael Gray Posted September 1, 2006 Posted September 1, 2006 On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:00:51 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: - Refer: <babhf25f93ervmiklgkjfoe4kh4au26veb@4ax.com> >On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:54:05 +0930, Michael Gray ><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism > >>On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:38:12 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >> - Refer: <ei0ef29goih5tv4k5rae3ofof1gme1cntn@4ax.com> >>>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:45:48 +0930, Michael Gray >>><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >>> >>>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:08:38 -0400, Darrell Stec >>>><darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote: >>>> - Refer: <4lgm8nF1qlmtU3@individual.net> >>>>>After serious contemplation, on or about Monday 28 August 2006 1:34 am >>>>>bob young perhaps from alaspectrum@netvigator.com wrote: > >>>>>> MarkA wrote: >>>>: >>>>>> How did kangaroos reach the ark? > >>>>>It was just a hop, skip and jump away. Stones can skip over water. Why >>>>>not kangaroos? >>>> >>>>Koalas and Wombats would have had a trifle more trouble joining in on >>>>the mythical mayhem! >>> >>>Nah! They can ride poach class! >> >>You are welcome to try to convince a fully grown male Koala with very >>sharp claws that he should stay inside a kangaroo's pouch! >>(You'll have to convince the fully grown female 'roo with very sharp >>claws at the same time, mind you) >>(Wombats are very concilliatory, so that's one problem solved) > >Sounds things are really a bear and of the malevolent drop bear type. Arghh! I can't bear it any more! >>You've got the job anytime you want. >>Just give me a week's notice so that I can arrange Steve Irwin's film >>crew, and the diplomatic return of your remains back to your family. >>Do you want Oak, or Mahogony? > >Transportation is their problem. I was referring to your coffin... Quote
Guest Michael Gray Posted September 1, 2006 Posted September 1, 2006 On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:01:36 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: - Refer: <mdbhf2tprn1h9sh504bicn8v4ocf5m1hnb@4ax.com> >On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:54:38 +0930, Michael Gray ><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism > >>On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:42:57 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >> - Refer: <rp0ef29hhsbjc07a891svqsdkjt0qp7m5g@4ax.com> >>>On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:47:25 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> >>>wrote in alt.atheism >>> >>>>In article <pan.2006.08.27.21.50.08.374038@nowhere.com>, >>>> MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have seen a few documentaries that go something like this: an >>>>> anthropology professor comes up with a theory about how primitive people >>>>> can build something amazing, like Stonehenge, or the Pyramids. To test >>>>> his theory, he takes a group of students, and, using only the tools that >>>>> would have been available to the civilization in question , demonstrates >>>>> that a monolith can be erected, the stones can be moved, etc. IOW, he >>>>> actually builds something similar, using only primitive technology. >>>>> >>>>> There are a depressing number of theists out there who believe, among >>>>> other things, that the biblical story of Noah is factually correct. >>>>> Rather than spending their time mounting expeditions to climb mountains in >>>>> the Middle East, looking for remains of the Ark, wouldn't it make more >>>>> sense to begin by demonstrating that construction of the Ark would even >>>>> be possible? >>>>> >>>>> The theists should collect a small group of people, and, using only the >>>>> hand tools that Noah had, actually build an ark the size described in the >>>>> bible. Once built, they should put it in the water, and demonstrate that >>>>> it can stay afloat for a few months. Then, they should put a pair of >>>>> every "kind" of animal aboard, close it up, and have no contact with the >>>>> outside world for about two months or so. >>>> >>>>One problem is that some of the more rabid fundies claim that Noah had >>>>ALL 'kinds' on board, existing and extinct including dinosaurs. I think >>>>that they would have problems finding a T. Rex or a Diplodicus these >>>>days. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Once that is done, they will have demonstrated that the story of the ark >>>>> is possible , no matter how improbable. Right now, they don't even have >>>>> a demonstration of the possibility. I believe that some church in the >>>>> midwest is building a replica of the ark, but using modern construction >>>>> techniques (concrete, steel beams, etc). That doesn't count. Build one >>>>> the way Noah would have, then, we'll talk. >>>> >>>>And build it in the middle of a Middle East desert using only materials >>>>available in that region that were also available to Noah including >>>>'gopher wood' whatever that was supposed to be. >>> >>>Who carried the; malaria, ebola, polio, syphillis, mumps, typhoid, etc., >>>etc., etc.? >> >>Typhoid Mary! > >was a faerie. Got up the duff, by a ghost with puff, ???? Quote
Guest Michael Gray Posted September 1, 2006 Posted September 1, 2006 On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:02:50 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: - Refer: <ifbhf25edko6mlgpdmqa6cr07nm7ft2he1@4ax.com> >On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:05:52 +0930, Michael Gray ><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism > >>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 00:57:11 -0500, Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com> >>wrote: >> - Refer: <ed8i3j097f@enews2.newsguy.com> >>>stoney wrote: >>>> On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:47:25 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> >>>> wrote in alt.atheism >>>> >>>> >>>>>In article <pan.2006.08.27.21.50.08.374038@nowhere.com>, >>>>>MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I have seen a few documentaries that go something like this: an >>>>>>anthropology professor comes up with a theory about how primitive people >>>>>>can build something amazing, like Stonehenge, or the Pyramids. To test >>>>>>his theory, he takes a group of students, and, using only the tools that >>>>>>would have been available to the civilization in question , demonstrates >>>>>>that a monolith can be erected, the stones can be moved, etc. IOW, he >>>>>>actually builds something similar, using only primitive technology. >>>>>> >>>>>>There are a depressing number of theists out there who believe, among >>>>>>other things, that the biblical story of Noah is factually correct. >>>>>>Rather than spending their time mounting expeditions to climb mountains in >>>>>>the Middle East, looking for remains of the Ark, wouldn't it make more >>>>>>sense to begin by demonstrating that construction of the Ark would even >>>>>>be possible? >>>>>> >>>>>>The theists should collect a small group of people, and, using only the >>>>>>hand tools that Noah had, actually build an ark the size described in the >>>>>>bible. Once built, they should put it in the water, and demonstrate that >>>>>>it can stay afloat for a few months. Then, they should put a pair of >>>>>>every "kind" of animal aboard, close it up, and have no contact with the >>>>>>outside world for about two months or so. >>>>> >>>>>One problem is that some of the more rabid fundies claim that Noah had >>>>>ALL 'kinds' on board, existing and extinct including dinosaurs. I think >>>>>that they would have problems finding a T. Rex or a Diplodicus these >>>>>days. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Once that is done, they will have demonstrated that the story of the ark >>>>>>is possible , no matter how improbable. Right now, they don't even have >>>>>>a demonstration of the possibility. I believe that some church in the >>>>>>midwest is building a replica of the ark, but using modern construction >>>>>>techniques (concrete, steel beams, etc). That doesn't count. Build one >>>>>>the way Noah would have, then, we'll talk. >>>>> >>>>>And build it in the middle of a Middle East desert using only materials >>>>>available in that region that were also available to Noah including >>>>>'gopher wood' whatever that was supposed to be. >>>> >>>> >>>> Who carried the; malaria, ebola, polio, syphillis, mumps, typhoid, etc., >>>> etc., etc.? >>> >>><sheepishly raises hand> >>> >>>I did it. It was me. >>> >>> >>> >>>Sorry. >> >>Right. >>Get to the back of the line young man. >>(There's always one , isn't there?) > >One's the lonliest number especially when it's a three dog night. Still getting 'flashbacks', I see! I said before that that song about living on pianos was the most nuseating libretto ever devised by "man", (and I use that term advisedly), but little Johnny Farnham's "One (is the loneliest number)" is easily the second most puke producing. Even more so than Charlene's "I've been to paradise, but I've never been to me" pile of steaming tripe! That lot should give you recurring nightmares. Quote
Guest stoney Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 07:58:58 +0930, Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:57:02 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: > - Refer: <34bhf2lmc4s2cdj85u55ospgj3dvufusba@4ax.com> >>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:42:17 +0930, Michael Gray >><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism [] >>>>>> There are dozens of reasons why the myth of Noah's Ark couldn't be >>>>>> true. That being said, it would still be great fun to watch the >>>>>> fundies actually try to build one. >>>>>They have actually. And they failed as many times as they tried. Still >>>>>they use as the excuse of their failure and pin their hopes upon >>>>>"gopher wood" an unknown substance that just had to have properties our >>>>>present and degraded wood just doesn't have. >>>> >>>>Just like some pixie dust will get you to neverneverland. >>> >>>Will it? >> >>Yes, as long as you have "Faith No More." > >The CD shop says they are out of stock. Too bad. >>>Where do I get some? >>>I called Michael Jackson but he was 'out'. >> >>He's ducking in and out of closets. > >Yes, Duckey! >(In Dubai, I believe. >He got there in an administrative error. >The Pope asked him where he would prefer refuge, and to describe his >sexual orientation. >The moonwalking moron got the two boxes mixed up, and now he lives in >"Dubious", and is a praticing Phillipino. and chasing joeys. -- Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters. Quote
Guest stoney Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 17:20:44 GMT, Dave Oldridge <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in alt.atheism >Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in >news:c99ff21lvh23r6dbatrnsqbgq1qg1bei6r@4ax.com: > >> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:10:04 -0400, "Sgt.Sausage" <nobody@nowhere.com> >> wrote: >> - Refer: <3bf09$44f74fd2$42a1e606$15757@FUSE.NET> >>> >>>"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message >>>news:ctvdf2t79er527rm6da8duql73gkv5hrt5@4ax.com... >>>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:47:24 GMT, Dave Oldridge >>>> <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in alt.atheism >>>> >>>>>wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in >>>>>news:12f49olqujn2q7d@corp.supernews.com: >>>>> >>> >>>[snip] >>>>>> Problem is, a boat the size of the ark today would cost >>>>>> tens of millions. >>>>> >>>>>A WOODEN boat the size of the ark wouldn't. But that's because it >>>>>wouldn't work. A wooden hull that size would break in two in even a >>>>>small gale. >>>> >>>> Or outside of a normal breakwater. But then reality isn't part of >>>> these people's world. >>> >>> >>>I would think, regardless of size, a WOODEN boat loaded as >>>described in the bible -- no matter how big/small, wouldn't even >>>need a "small gale". >>> >>>The thing would crush under its own weight before it was even >>>fully loaded. >> >> You are forgetting all the Christian Hot Air that it would be filled >> with. > >You're confused. Projection noted. > Most of those creationists are not Christians. Nor are you. >They PLAY Christians on the stage of life, but underneath the mask they are >devout narcissists. General Christian tendency since everything comes down to them and their disposition in the 'eternal life' sweepstakes. >You can test this theory by refusing to bow down and >worship THEM. They almost always accuse you of atheism, blasphemy, etc. The usual Christian cowardice. -- Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters. Quote
Guest stoney Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 07:59:45 +0930, Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:57:37 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: > - Refer: <u5bhf256mqj0g1dvam96nt8t5tn6h14acp@4ax.com> >>On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:10:04 -0400, "Sgt.Sausage" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>wrote in alt.atheism >> >>> >>>"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message >>>news:ctvdf2t79er527rm6da8duql73gkv5hrt5@4ax.com... >>>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:47:24 GMT, Dave Oldridge >>>> <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in alt.atheism >>>> >>>>>wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in >>>>>news:12f49olqujn2q7d@corp.supernews.com: >>>>> >>> >>>[snip] >>>>>> Problem is, a boat the size of the ark today would cost >>>>>> tens of millions. >>>>> >>>>>A WOODEN boat the size of the ark wouldn't. But that's because it >>>>>wouldn't work. A wooden hull that size would break in two in even a >>>>>small gale. >>>> >>>> Or outside of a normal breakwater. But then reality isn't part of these >>>> people's world. >>> >>> >>>I would think, regardless of size, a WOODEN boat loaded as >>>described in the bible -- no matter how big/small, wouldn't even >>>need a "small gale". >>> >>>The thing would crush under its own weight before it was even >>>fully loaded. >> >>Unloaded it would break up and sink. > >But the whole concept holds no water. Which is why it gosub's and doesn't return. -- Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters. Quote
Guest stoney Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 08:09:44 +0930, Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:59:20 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: > - Refer: <u8bhf2dmgvo52m87dg2bctmb4c4b6035h5@4ax.com> >>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:06:18 -0400, Darrell Stec >><darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote in alt.atheism >> >>>After serious contemplation, on or about Thursday 31 August 2006 11:18 >>>pm Michael Gray perhaps from fleetg@newsguy.spam.com wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:42:27 -0400, Darrell Stec >>>> <darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote: >>>> - Refer: <4lolc4F309ikU1@individual.net> >>>> : >>>>>Australia is not in the bible. Apparently you do not exist either. >>>>>How >>>> >>>> I guess you must be right. >>>> That lets me out of paying taxes then! >> >>>Whew! For a minute there I thought you might point out that the >>>Americas weren't in the bible either and so I couldn't exist. >> >>How could he speak of what and who doesn't exist? > >So, I'm banned from speak about Christian moral integrity then, eh? He doesn't exist, either...... -- Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters. Quote
Guest stoney Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 08:11:02 +0930, Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:00:51 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: > - Refer: <babhf25f93ervmiklgkjfoe4kh4au26veb@4ax.com> >>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:54:05 +0930, Michael Gray >><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >> >>>On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:38:12 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >>> - Refer: <ei0ef29goih5tv4k5rae3ofof1gme1cntn@4ax.com> >>>>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:45:48 +0930, Michael Gray >>>><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >>>> >>>>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:08:38 -0400, Darrell Stec >>>>><darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote: >>>>> - Refer: <4lgm8nF1qlmtU3@individual.net> >>>>>>After serious contemplation, on or about Monday 28 August 2006 1:34 am >>>>>>bob young perhaps from alaspectrum@netvigator.com wrote: >> >>>>>>> MarkA wrote: >>>>>: >>>>>>> How did kangaroos reach the ark? >> >>>>>>It was just a hop, skip and jump away. Stones can skip over water. Why >>>>>>not kangaroos? >>>>> >>>>>Koalas and Wombats would have had a trifle more trouble joining in on >>>>>the mythical mayhem! >>>> >>>>Nah! They can ride poach class! >>> >>>You are welcome to try to convince a fully grown male Koala with very >>>sharp claws that he should stay inside a kangaroo's pouch! >>>(You'll have to convince the fully grown female 'roo with very sharp >>>claws at the same time, mind you) >>>(Wombats are very concilliatory, so that's one problem solved) >> >>Sounds things are really a bear and of the malevolent drop bear type. > >Arghh! I can't bear it any more! So, bare it and run screaming down the street. >>>You've got the job anytime you want. >>>Just give me a week's notice so that I can arrange Steve Irwin's film >>>crew, and the diplomatic return of your remains back to your family. >>>Do you want Oak, or Mahogony? >> >>Transportation is their problem. > >I was referring to your coffin... My coughing is decreasing. -- Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters. Quote
Guest stoney Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 08:12:24 +0930, Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:01:36 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: > - Refer: <mdbhf2tprn1h9sh504bicn8v4ocf5m1hnb@4ax.com> >>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:54:38 +0930, Michael Gray >><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >> >>>On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:42:57 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >>> - Refer: <rp0ef29hhsbjc07a891svqsdkjt0qp7m5g@4ax.com> >>>>On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:47:25 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> >>>>wrote in alt.atheism >>>> >>>>>In article <pan.2006.08.27.21.50.08.374038@nowhere.com>, >>>>> MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have seen a few documentaries that go something like this: an >>>>>> anthropology professor comes up with a theory about how primitive people >>>>>> can build something amazing, like Stonehenge, or the Pyramids. To test >>>>>> his theory, he takes a group of students, and, using only the tools that >>>>>> would have been available to the civilization in question , demonstrates >>>>>> that a monolith can be erected, the stones can be moved, etc. IOW, he >>>>>> actually builds something similar, using only primitive technology. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are a depressing number of theists out there who believe, among >>>>>> other things, that the biblical story of Noah is factually correct. >>>>>> Rather than spending their time mounting expeditions to climb mountains in >>>>>> the Middle East, looking for remains of the Ark, wouldn't it make more >>>>>> sense to begin by demonstrating that construction of the Ark would even >>>>>> be possible? >>>>>> >>>>>> The theists should collect a small group of people, and, using only the >>>>>> hand tools that Noah had, actually build an ark the size described in the >>>>>> bible. Once built, they should put it in the water, and demonstrate that >>>>>> it can stay afloat for a few months. Then, they should put a pair of >>>>>> every "kind" of animal aboard, close it up, and have no contact with the >>>>>> outside world for about two months or so. >>>>> >>>>>One problem is that some of the more rabid fundies claim that Noah had >>>>>ALL 'kinds' on board, existing and extinct including dinosaurs. I think >>>>>that they would have problems finding a T. Rex or a Diplodicus these >>>>>days. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Once that is done, they will have demonstrated that the story of the ark >>>>>> is possible , no matter how improbable. Right now, they don't even have >>>>>> a demonstration of the possibility. I believe that some church in the >>>>>> midwest is building a replica of the ark, but using modern construction >>>>>> techniques (concrete, steel beams, etc). That doesn't count. Build one >>>>>> the way Noah would have, then, we'll talk. >>>>> >>>>>And build it in the middle of a Middle East desert using only materials >>>>>available in that region that were also available to Noah including >>>>>'gopher wood' whatever that was supposed to be. >>>> >>>>Who carried the; malaria, ebola, polio, syphillis, mumps, typhoid, etc., >>>>etc., etc.? >>> >>>Typhoid Mary! >> >>was a faerie. > >Got up the duff, > >by a ghost with puff, > >???? who missed the fluff and said; "Dat's enuff!" -- Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters. Quote
Guest stoney Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 08:16:00 +0930, Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:02:50 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: > - Refer: <ifbhf25edko6mlgpdmqa6cr07nm7ft2he1@4ax.com> >>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:05:52 +0930, Michael Gray >><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >> >>>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 00:57:11 -0500, Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com> >>>wrote: >>> - Refer: <ed8i3j097f@enews2.newsguy.com> >>>>stoney wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:47:25 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> >>>>> wrote in alt.atheism >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>In article <pan.2006.08.27.21.50.08.374038@nowhere.com>, >>>>>>MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>I have seen a few documentaries that go something like this: an >>>>>>>anthropology professor comes up with a theory about how primitive people >>>>>>>can build something amazing, like Stonehenge, or the Pyramids. To test >>>>>>>his theory, he takes a group of students, and, using only the tools that >>>>>>>would have been available to the civilization in question , demonstrates >>>>>>>that a monolith can be erected, the stones can be moved, etc. IOW, he >>>>>>>actually builds something similar, using only primitive technology. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>There are a depressing number of theists out there who believe, among >>>>>>>other things, that the biblical story of Noah is factually correct. >>>>>>>Rather than spending their time mounting expeditions to climb mountains in >>>>>>>the Middle East, looking for remains of the Ark, wouldn't it make more >>>>>>>sense to begin by demonstrating that construction of the Ark would even >>>>>>>be possible? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The theists should collect a small group of people, and, using only the >>>>>>>hand tools that Noah had, actually build an ark the size described in the >>>>>>>bible. Once built, they should put it in the water, and demonstrate that >>>>>>>it can stay afloat for a few months. Then, they should put a pair of >>>>>>>every "kind" of animal aboard, close it up, and have no contact with the >>>>>>>outside world for about two months or so. >>>>>> >>>>>>One problem is that some of the more rabid fundies claim that Noah had >>>>>>ALL 'kinds' on board, existing and extinct including dinosaurs. I think >>>>>>that they would have problems finding a T. Rex or a Diplodicus these >>>>>>days. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Once that is done, they will have demonstrated that the story of the ark >>>>>>>is possible , no matter how improbable. Right now, they don't even have >>>>>>>a demonstration of the possibility. I believe that some church in the >>>>>>>midwest is building a replica of the ark, but using modern construction >>>>>>>techniques (concrete, steel beams, etc). That doesn't count. Build one >>>>>>>the way Noah would have, then, we'll talk. >>>>>> >>>>>>And build it in the middle of a Middle East desert using only materials >>>>>>available in that region that were also available to Noah including >>>>>>'gopher wood' whatever that was supposed to be. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Who carried the; malaria, ebola, polio, syphillis, mumps, typhoid, etc., >>>>> etc., etc.? >>>> >>>><sheepishly raises hand> >>>> >>>>I did it. It was me. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Sorry. >>> >>>Right. >>>Get to the back of the line young man. >>>(There's always one , isn't there?) >> >>One's the lonliest number especially when it's a three dog night. > >Still getting 'flashbacks', I see! Nah. They quit many years ago. HEY!!!!!!!!!!............... >I said before that that song about living on pianos was the most >nuseating libretto ever devised by "man", (and I use that term >advisedly), but little Johnny Farnham's "One (is the loneliest >number)" is easily the second most puke producing. > >Even more so than Charlene's "I've been to paradise, but I've never >been to me" pile of steaming tripe! > >That lot should give you recurring nightmares. Nope. I don't remember those songs. -- Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters. Quote
Guest Dave Oldridge Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in news:t90mf29vhvg9neuudk89mo02mc71mae3i4@4ax.com: > On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 17:20:44 GMT, Dave Oldridge > <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in alt.atheism > >>Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in >>news:c99ff21lvh23r6dbatrnsqbgq1qg1bei6r@4ax.com: >> >>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:10:04 -0400, "Sgt.Sausage" >>> <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>> - Refer: <3bf09$44f74fd2$42a1e606$15757@FUSE.NET> >>>> >>>>"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message >>>>news:ctvdf2t79er527rm6da8duql73gkv5hrt5@4ax.com... >>>>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:47:24 GMT, Dave Oldridge >>>>> <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in alt.atheism >>>>> >>>>>>wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in >>>>>>news:12f49olqujn2q7d@corp.supernews.com: >>>>>> >>>> >>>>[snip] >>>>>>> Problem is, a boat the size of the ark today would cost >>>>>>> tens of millions. >>>>>> >>>>>>A WOODEN boat the size of the ark wouldn't. But that's because it >>>>>>wouldn't work. A wooden hull that size would break in two in even >>>>>>a small gale. >>>>> >>>>> Or outside of a normal breakwater. But then reality isn't part of >>>>> these people's world. >>>> >>>> >>>>I would think, regardless of size, a WOODEN boat loaded as >>>>described in the bible -- no matter how big/small, wouldn't even >>>>need a "small gale". >>>> >>>>The thing would crush under its own weight before it was even >>>>fully loaded. >>> >>> You are forgetting all the Christian Hot Air that it would be filled >>> with. >> >>You're confused. > > Projection noted. > >> Most of those creationists are not Christians. > > Nor are you. You are in no position to judge, since you hate the WORD "Christian." > >>They PLAY Christians on the stage of life, but underneath the mask >>they are devout narcissists. > > General Christian tendency since everything comes down to them and > their disposition in the 'eternal life' sweepstakes. >>You can test this theory by refusing to bow down and >>worship THEM. They almost always accuse you of atheism, blasphemy, >>etc. > > The usual Christian cowardice. Of course, if you ARE an atheist, you shouldn't mind the label. It's not possible for an atheist to REALLY be a blasphemer, though, since to truly blaspheme you have to believe in the god whose name you'r taking in vain. -- Dave Oldridge+ ICQ 1800667 Quote
Guest Michael Gray Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:22:01 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: - Refer: <o70mf210npjuc9deecj2c8e5hbl9rtoku6@4ax.com> >On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 07:58:58 +0930, Michael Gray ><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism > >>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:57:02 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >> - Refer: <34bhf2lmc4s2cdj85u55ospgj3dvufusba@4ax.com> >>>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:42:17 +0930, Michael Gray >>><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism > >[] > >>>>>>> There are dozens of reasons why the myth of Noah's Ark couldn't be >>>>>>> true. That being said, it would still be great fun to watch the >>>>>>> fundies actually try to build one. > >>>>>>They have actually. And they failed as many times as they tried. Still >>>>>>they use as the excuse of their failure and pin their hopes upon >>>>>>"gopher wood" an unknown substance that just had to have properties our >>>>>>present and degraded wood just doesn't have. >>>>> >>>>>Just like some pixie dust will get you to neverneverland. >>>> >>>>Will it? >>> >>>Yes, as long as you have "Faith No More." >> >>The CD shop says they are out of stock. > >Too bad. > >>>>Where do I get some? >>>>I called Michael Jackson but he was 'out'. >>> >>>He's ducking in and out of closets. >> >>Yes, Duckey! >>(In Dubai, I believe. >>He got there in an administrative error. >>The Pope asked him where he would prefer refuge, and to describe his >>sexual orientation. >>The moonwalking moron got the two boxes mixed up, and now he lives in >>"Dubious", and is a praticing Phillipino. > >and chasing joeys. But Joey doesn't want to share his. Quote
Guest Michael Gray Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:25:18 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: - Refer: <he0mf2tmvg5ngb7dpf66cucms8gh41r9jc@4ax.com> >On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 07:59:45 +0930, Michael Gray ><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism > >>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:57:37 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >> - Refer: <u5bhf256mqj0g1dvam96nt8t5tn6h14acp@4ax.com> >>>On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:10:04 -0400, "Sgt.Sausage" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>wrote in alt.atheism >>> >>>> >>>>"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message >>>>news:ctvdf2t79er527rm6da8duql73gkv5hrt5@4ax.com... >>>>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:47:24 GMT, Dave Oldridge >>>>> <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in alt.atheism >>>>> >>>>>>wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in >>>>>>news:12f49olqujn2q7d@corp.supernews.com: >>>>>> >>>> >>>>[snip] >>>>>>> Problem is, a boat the size of the ark today would cost >>>>>>> tens of millions. >>>>>> >>>>>>A WOODEN boat the size of the ark wouldn't. But that's because it >>>>>>wouldn't work. A wooden hull that size would break in two in even a >>>>>>small gale. >>>>> >>>>> Or outside of a normal breakwater. But then reality isn't part of these >>>>> people's world. >>>> >>>> >>>>I would think, regardless of size, a WOODEN boat loaded as >>>>described in the bible -- no matter how big/small, wouldn't even >>>>need a "small gale". >>>> >>>>The thing would crush under its own weight before it was even >>>>fully loaded. >>> >>>Unloaded it would break up and sink. >> >>But the whole concept holds no water. > >Which is why it gosub's and doesn't return. I haen't heard that joke since Moses was a lad. Quote
Guest Michael Gray Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:27:38 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: - Refer: <7i0mf21bend2l744312v9tlecdmdfdsvt3@4ax.com> >On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 08:11:02 +0930, Michael Gray ><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism > >>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:00:51 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >> - Refer: <babhf25f93ervmiklgkjfoe4kh4au26veb@4ax.com> >>>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:54:05 +0930, Michael Gray >>><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >>> >>>>On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:38:12 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >>>> - Refer: <ei0ef29goih5tv4k5rae3ofof1gme1cntn@4ax.com> >>>>>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:45:48 +0930, Michael Gray >>>>><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >>>>> >>>>>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:08:38 -0400, Darrell Stec >>>>>><darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote: >>>>>> - Refer: <4lgm8nF1qlmtU3@individual.net> >>>>>>>After serious contemplation, on or about Monday 28 August 2006 1:34 am >>>>>>>bob young perhaps from alaspectrum@netvigator.com wrote: >>> >>>>>>>> MarkA wrote: >>>>>>: >>>>>>>> How did kangaroos reach the ark? >>> >>>>>>>It was just a hop, skip and jump away. Stones can skip over water. Why >>>>>>>not kangaroos? >>>>>> >>>>>>Koalas and Wombats would have had a trifle more trouble joining in on >>>>>>the mythical mayhem! >>>>> >>>>>Nah! They can ride poach class! >>>> >>>>You are welcome to try to convince a fully grown male Koala with very >>>>sharp claws that he should stay inside a kangaroo's pouch! >>>>(You'll have to convince the fully grown female 'roo with very sharp >>>>claws at the same time, mind you) >>>>(Wombats are very concilliatory, so that's one problem solved) >>> >>>Sounds things are really a bear and of the malevolent drop bear type. >> >>Arghh! I can't bear it any more! > >So, bare it and run screaming down the street. "Eureka!!" >>>>You've got the job anytime you want. >>>>Just give me a week's notice so that I can arrange Steve Irwin's film >>>>crew, and the diplomatic return of your remains back to your family. >>>>Do you want Oak, or Mahogony? >>> >>>Transportation is their problem. >> >>I was referring to your coffin... > >My coughing is decreasing. That should save on timber. Stand still while I measure you. Quote
Guest Michael Gray Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:28:28 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: - Refer: <ak0mf2pauvfsnchg03di7uhtbmbvvtaksi@4ax.com> >On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 08:12:24 +0930, Michael Gray ><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism > >>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:01:36 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >> - Refer: <mdbhf2tprn1h9sh504bicn8v4ocf5m1hnb@4ax.com> >>>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:54:38 +0930, Michael Gray >>><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >>> >>>>On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:42:57 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >>>> - Refer: <rp0ef29hhsbjc07a891svqsdkjt0qp7m5g@4ax.com> >>>>>On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:47:25 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> >>>>>wrote in alt.atheism >>>>> >>>>>>In article <pan.2006.08.27.21.50.08.374038@nowhere.com>, >>>>>> MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have seen a few documentaries that go something like this: an >>>>>>> anthropology professor comes up with a theory about how primitive people >>>>>>> can build something amazing, like Stonehenge, or the Pyramids. To test >>>>>>> his theory, he takes a group of students, and, using only the tools that >>>>>>> would have been available to the civilization in question , demonstrates >>>>>>> that a monolith can be erected, the stones can be moved, etc. IOW, he >>>>>>> actually builds something similar, using only primitive technology. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are a depressing number of theists out there who believe, among >>>>>>> other things, that the biblical story of Noah is factually correct. >>>>>>> Rather than spending their time mounting expeditions to climb mountains in >>>>>>> the Middle East, looking for remains of the Ark, wouldn't it make more >>>>>>> sense to begin by demonstrating that construction of the Ark would even >>>>>>> be possible? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The theists should collect a small group of people, and, using only the >>>>>>> hand tools that Noah had, actually build an ark the size described in the >>>>>>> bible. Once built, they should put it in the water, and demonstrate that >>>>>>> it can stay afloat for a few months. Then, they should put a pair of >>>>>>> every "kind" of animal aboard, close it up, and have no contact with the >>>>>>> outside world for about two months or so. >>>>>> >>>>>>One problem is that some of the more rabid fundies claim that Noah had >>>>>>ALL 'kinds' on board, existing and extinct including dinosaurs. I think >>>>>>that they would have problems finding a T. Rex or a Diplodicus these >>>>>>days. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once that is done, they will have demonstrated that the story of the ark >>>>>>> is possible , no matter how improbable. Right now, they don't even have >>>>>>> a demonstration of the possibility. I believe that some church in the >>>>>>> midwest is building a replica of the ark, but using modern construction >>>>>>> techniques (concrete, steel beams, etc). That doesn't count. Build one >>>>>>> the way Noah would have, then, we'll talk. >>>>>> >>>>>>And build it in the middle of a Middle East desert using only materials >>>>>>available in that region that were also available to Noah including >>>>>>'gopher wood' whatever that was supposed to be. >>>>> >>>>>Who carried the; malaria, ebola, polio, syphillis, mumps, typhoid, etc., >>>>>etc., etc.? >>>> >>>>Typhoid Mary! >>> >>>was a faerie. >> >>Got up the duff, >> >>by a ghost with puff, >> >>???? > >who missed the fluff >and said; "Dat's enuff!" An poltergeist poof. Quote
Guest Michael Gray Posted September 3, 2006 Posted September 3, 2006 On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:30:46 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: - Refer: <rn0mf2ht131el68ktpa6igtec6i2484960@4ax.com> >On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 08:16:00 +0930, Michael Gray ><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism > >>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:02:50 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >> - Refer: <ifbhf25edko6mlgpdmqa6cr07nm7ft2he1@4ax.com> >>>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:05:52 +0930, Michael Gray >>><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >>> >>>>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 00:57:11 -0500, Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com> >>>>wrote: >>>> - Refer: <ed8i3j097f@enews2.newsguy.com> >>>>>stoney wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:47:25 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> >>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>In article <pan.2006.08.27.21.50.08.374038@nowhere.com>, >>>>>>>MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I have seen a few documentaries that go something like this: an >>>>>>>>anthropology professor comes up with a theory about how primitive people >>>>>>>>can build something amazing, like Stonehenge, or the Pyramids. To test >>>>>>>>his theory, he takes a group of students, and, using only the tools that >>>>>>>>would have been available to the civilization in question , demonstrates >>>>>>>>that a monolith can be erected, the stones can be moved, etc. IOW, he >>>>>>>>actually builds something similar, using only primitive technology. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>There are a depressing number of theists out there who believe, among >>>>>>>>other things, that the biblical story of Noah is factually correct. >>>>>>>>Rather than spending their time mounting expeditions to climb mountains in >>>>>>>>the Middle East, looking for remains of the Ark, wouldn't it make more >>>>>>>>sense to begin by demonstrating that construction of the Ark would even >>>>>>>>be possible? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The theists should collect a small group of people, and, using only the >>>>>>>>hand tools that Noah had, actually build an ark the size described in the >>>>>>>>bible. Once built, they should put it in the water, and demonstrate that >>>>>>>>it can stay afloat for a few months. Then, they should put a pair of >>>>>>>>every "kind" of animal aboard, close it up, and have no contact with the >>>>>>>>outside world for about two months or so. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>One problem is that some of the more rabid fundies claim that Noah had >>>>>>>ALL 'kinds' on board, existing and extinct including dinosaurs. I think >>>>>>>that they would have problems finding a T. Rex or a Diplodicus these >>>>>>>days. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Once that is done, they will have demonstrated that the story of the ark >>>>>>>>is possible , no matter how improbable. Right now, they don't even have >>>>>>>>a demonstration of the possibility. I believe that some church in the >>>>>>>>midwest is building a replica of the ark, but using modern construction >>>>>>>>techniques (concrete, steel beams, etc). That doesn't count. Build one >>>>>>>>the way Noah would have, then, we'll talk. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>And build it in the middle of a Middle East desert using only materials >>>>>>>available in that region that were also available to Noah including >>>>>>>'gopher wood' whatever that was supposed to be. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Who carried the; malaria, ebola, polio, syphillis, mumps, typhoid, etc., >>>>>> etc., etc.? >>>>> >>>>><sheepishly raises hand> >>>>> >>>>>I did it. It was me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Sorry. >>>> >>>>Right. >>>>Get to the back of the line young man. >>>>(There's always one , isn't there?) >>> >>>One's the lonliest number especially when it's a three dog night. >> >>Still getting 'flashbacks', I see! > >Nah. They quit many years ago. HEY!!!!!!!!!!............... > >>I said before that that song about living on pianos was the most >>nuseating libretto ever devised by "man", (and I use that term >>advisedly), but little Johnny Farnham's "One (is the loneliest >>number)" is easily the second most puke producing. >> >>Even more so than Charlene's "I've been to paradise, but I've never >>been to me" pile of steaming tripe! >> >>That lot should give you recurring nightmares. > >Nope. I don't remember those songs. Oh, how I wish that my memory were so forgiving! Quote
Guest stoney Posted September 6, 2006 Posted September 6, 2006 On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:56:38 +0930, Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:22:01 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: > - Refer: <o70mf210npjuc9deecj2c8e5hbl9rtoku6@4ax.com> >>On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 07:58:58 +0930, Michael Gray >><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >> >>>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:57:02 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >>> - Refer: <34bhf2lmc4s2cdj85u55ospgj3dvufusba@4ax.com> >>>>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:42:17 +0930, Michael Gray >>>><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >> >>[] >> >>>>>>>> There are dozens of reasons why the myth of Noah's Ark couldn't be >>>>>>>> true. That being said, it would still be great fun to watch the >>>>>>>> fundies actually try to build one. >> >>>>>>>They have actually. And they failed as many times as they tried. Still >>>>>>>they use as the excuse of their failure and pin their hopes upon >>>>>>>"gopher wood" an unknown substance that just had to have properties our >>>>>>>present and degraded wood just doesn't have. >>>>>> >>>>>>Just like some pixie dust will get you to neverneverland. >>>>> >>>>>Will it? >>>> >>>>Yes, as long as you have "Faith No More." >>> >>>The CD shop says they are out of stock. >> >>Too bad. >> >>>>>Where do I get some? >>>>>I called Michael Jackson but he was 'out'. >>>> >>>>He's ducking in and out of closets. >>> >>>Yes, Duckey! >>>(In Dubai, I believe. >>>He got there in an administrative error. >>>The Pope asked him where he would prefer refuge, and to describe his >>>sexual orientation. >>>The moonwalking moron got the two boxes mixed up, and now he lives in >>>"Dubious", and is a praticing Phillipino. >> >>and chasing joeys. > >But Joey doesn't want to share his. Wouldn't matter. -- Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters. Quote
Guest Michael Gray Posted September 7, 2006 Posted September 7, 2006 On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 13:28:34 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: - Refer: <0rbuf2ptc0srbfshnfdnhf55pjhh5pdhpt@4ax.com> >On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:56:38 +0930, Michael Gray ><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism > >>On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:22:01 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >> - Refer: <o70mf210npjuc9deecj2c8e5hbl9rtoku6@4ax.com> >>>On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 07:58:58 +0930, Michael Gray >>><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >>> >>>>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:57:02 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >>>> - Refer: <34bhf2lmc4s2cdj85u55ospgj3dvufusba@4ax.com> >>>>>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:42:17 +0930, Michael Gray >>>>><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >>> >>>[] >>> >>>>>>>>> There are dozens of reasons why the myth of Noah's Ark couldn't be >>>>>>>>> true. That being said, it would still be great fun to watch the >>>>>>>>> fundies actually try to build one. >>> >>>>>>>>They have actually. And they failed as many times as they tried. Still >>>>>>>>they use as the excuse of their failure and pin their hopes upon >>>>>>>>"gopher wood" an unknown substance that just had to have properties our >>>>>>>>present and degraded wood just doesn't have. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Just like some pixie dust will get you to neverneverland. >>>>>> >>>>>>Will it? >>>>> >>>>>Yes, as long as you have "Faith No More." >>>> >>>>The CD shop says they are out of stock. >>> >>>Too bad. >>> >>>>>>Where do I get some? >>>>>>I called Michael Jackson but he was 'out'. >>>>> >>>>>He's ducking in and out of closets. >>>> >>>>Yes, Duckey! >>>>(In Dubai, I believe. >>>>He got there in an administrative error. >>>>The Pope asked him where he would prefer refuge, and to describe his >>>>sexual orientation. >>>>The moonwalking moron got the two boxes mixed up, and now he lives in >>>>"Dubious", and is a praticing Phillipino. >>> >>>and chasing joeys. >> >>But Joey doesn't want to share his. > >Wouldn't matter. Gopher wouldn't is hard to find. Quote
Guest stoney Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:58:49 GMT, Dave Oldridge <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in alt.atheism >stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in >news:t90mf29vhvg9neuudk89mo02mc71mae3i4@4ax.com: > >> On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 17:20:44 GMT, Dave Oldridge >> <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in alt.atheism >> >>>Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in >>>news:c99ff21lvh23r6dbatrnsqbgq1qg1bei6r@4ax.com: >>> >>>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:10:04 -0400, "Sgt.Sausage" >>>> <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>> - Refer: <3bf09$44f74fd2$42a1e606$15757@FUSE.NET> >>>>> >>>>>"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message >>>>>news:ctvdf2t79er527rm6da8duql73gkv5hrt5@4ax.com... >>>>>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:47:24 GMT, Dave Oldridge >>>>>> <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in alt.atheism >>>>>> >>>>>>>wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in >>>>>>>news:12f49olqujn2q7d@corp.supernews.com: >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>[snip] >>>>>>>> Problem is, a boat the size of the ark today would cost >>>>>>>> tens of millions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>A WOODEN boat the size of the ark wouldn't. But that's because it >>>>>>>wouldn't work. A wooden hull that size would break in two in even >>>>>>>a small gale. >>>>>> >>>>>> Or outside of a normal breakwater. But then reality isn't part of >>>>>> these people's world. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I would think, regardless of size, a WOODEN boat loaded as >>>>>described in the bible -- no matter how big/small, wouldn't even >>>>>need a "small gale". >>>>> >>>>>The thing would crush under its own weight before it was even >>>>>fully loaded. >>>> >>>> You are forgetting all the Christian Hot Air that it would be filled >>>> with. >>> >>>You're confused. >> >> Projection noted. >> >>> Most of those creationists are not Christians. >> >> Nor are you. > >You are in no position to judge, since you hate the WORD "Christian." Lie #1. Cowardice noted, too. >>>They PLAY Christians on the stage of life, but underneath the mask >>>they are devout narcissists. >> >> General Christian tendency since everything comes down to them and >> their disposition in the 'eternal life' sweepstakes. > >>>You can test this theory by refusing to bow down and >>>worship THEM. They almost always accuse you of atheism, blasphemy, >>>etc. >> >> The usual Christian cowardice. > >Of course, if you ARE an atheist, you shouldn't mind the label. It's not >possible for an atheist to REALLY be a blasphemer, though, since to truly >blaspheme you have to believe in the god whose name you'r taking in vain. You missed it, my fault. I'll get back to it but first I'll address your response. I agree with your comment and the 'label,' to me, is meaningless. One might as well stick the 'a' prefix in front of all the things I am not {a-SantaClausist, a-cokeist, a pepsiist, etc.}. What I meant by the 'usual Christian cowardice' is they aren't brave enough to accept the person doesn't have their (the particular christian's) beliefs and so generate false claims or other some such items so they feel better. -- Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters. Quote
Guest stoney Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:58:39 +0930, Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:25:18 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: > - Refer: <he0mf2tmvg5ngb7dpf66cucms8gh41r9jc@4ax.com> >>On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 07:59:45 +0930, Michael Gray >><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >> >>>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:57:37 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >>> - Refer: <u5bhf256mqj0g1dvam96nt8t5tn6h14acp@4ax.com> >>>>On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:10:04 -0400, "Sgt.Sausage" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>wrote in alt.atheism >>>> >>>>> >>>>>"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message >>>>>news:ctvdf2t79er527rm6da8duql73gkv5hrt5@4ax.com... >>>>>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:47:24 GMT, Dave Oldridge >>>>>> <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in alt.atheism >>>>>> >>>>>>>wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in >>>>>>>news:12f49olqujn2q7d@corp.supernews.com: >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>[snip] >>>>>>>> Problem is, a boat the size of the ark today would cost >>>>>>>> tens of millions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>A WOODEN boat the size of the ark wouldn't. But that's because it >>>>>>>wouldn't work. A wooden hull that size would break in two in even a >>>>>>>small gale. >>>>>> >>>>>> Or outside of a normal breakwater. But then reality isn't part of these >>>>>> people's world. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I would think, regardless of size, a WOODEN boat loaded as >>>>>described in the bible -- no matter how big/small, wouldn't even >>>>>need a "small gale". >>>>> >>>>>The thing would crush under its own weight before it was even >>>>>fully loaded. >>>> >>>>Unloaded it would break up and sink. >>> >>>But the whole concept holds no water. >> >>Which is why it gosub's and doesn't return. > >I haen't heard that joke since Moses was a lad. Alladin Goat? -- Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters. Quote
Guest stoney Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:59:56 +0930, Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:27:38 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: > - Refer: <7i0mf21bend2l744312v9tlecdmdfdsvt3@4ax.com> [] >>>>>>>>> MarkA wrote: >>>>>>>: >>>>>>>>> How did kangaroos reach the ark? >>>> >>>>>>>>It was just a hop, skip and jump away. Stones can skip over water. Why >>>>>>>>not kangaroos? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Koalas and Wombats would have had a trifle more trouble joining in on >>>>>>>the mythical mayhem! >>>>>> >>>>>>Nah! They can ride poach class! >>>>> >>>>>You are welcome to try to convince a fully grown male Koala with very >>>>>sharp claws that he should stay inside a kangaroo's pouch! >>>>>(You'll have to convince the fully grown female 'roo with very sharp >>>>>claws at the same time, mind you) >>>>>(Wombats are very concilliatory, so that's one problem solved) >>>> >>>>Sounds things are really a bear and of the malevolent drop bear type. >>> >>>Arghh! I can't bear it any more! >> >>So, bare it and run screaming down the street. > >"Eureka!!" > >>>>>You've got the job anytime you want. >>>>>Just give me a week's notice so that I can arrange Steve Irwin's film >>>>>crew, and the diplomatic return of your remains back to your family. >>>>>Do you want Oak, or Mahogony? >>>> >>>>Transportation is their problem. >>> >>>I was referring to your coffin... >> >>My coughing is decreasing. > >That should save on timber. >Stand still while I measure you. Just put it down as 'beyond measure.'........ -- Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters. Quote
Guest stoney Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:00:54 +0930, Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:28:28 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: > - Refer: <ak0mf2pauvfsnchg03di7uhtbmbvvtaksi@4ax.com> [] >>>>>>>In article <pan.2006.08.27.21.50.08.374038@nowhere.com>, >>>>>>> MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have seen a few documentaries that go something like this: an >>>>>>>> anthropology professor comes up with a theory about how primitive people >>>>>>>> can build something amazing, like Stonehenge, or the Pyramids. To test >>>>>>>> his theory, he takes a group of students, and, using only the tools that >>>>>>>> would have been available to the civilization in question , demonstrates >>>>>>>> that a monolith can be erected, the stones can be moved, etc. IOW, he >>>>>>>> actually builds something similar, using only primitive technology. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are a depressing number of theists out there who believe, among >>>>>>>> other things, that the biblical story of Noah is factually correct. >>>>>>>> Rather than spending their time mounting expeditions to climb mountains in >>>>>>>> the Middle East, looking for remains of the Ark, wouldn't it make more >>>>>>>> sense to begin by demonstrating that construction of the Ark would even >>>>>>>> be possible? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The theists should collect a small group of people, and, using only the >>>>>>>> hand tools that Noah had, actually build an ark the size described in the >>>>>>>> bible. Once built, they should put it in the water, and demonstrate that >>>>>>>> it can stay afloat for a few months. Then, they should put a pair of >>>>>>>> every "kind" of animal aboard, close it up, and have no contact with the >>>>>>>> outside world for about two months or so. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>One problem is that some of the more rabid fundies claim that Noah had >>>>>>>ALL 'kinds' on board, existing and extinct including dinosaurs. I think >>>>>>>that they would have problems finding a T. Rex or a Diplodicus these >>>>>>>days. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Once that is done, they will have demonstrated that the story of the ark >>>>>>>> is possible , no matter how improbable. Right now, they don't even have >>>>>>>> a demonstration of the possibility. I believe that some church in the >>>>>>>> midwest is building a replica of the ark, but using modern construction >>>>>>>> techniques (concrete, steel beams, etc). That doesn't count. Build one >>>>>>>> the way Noah would have, then, we'll talk. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>And build it in the middle of a Middle East desert using only materials >>>>>>>available in that region that were also available to Noah including >>>>>>>'gopher wood' whatever that was supposed to be. >>>>>> >>>>>>Who carried the; malaria, ebola, polio, syphillis, mumps, typhoid, etc., >>>>>>etc., etc.? >>>>> >>>>>Typhoid Mary! >>>> >>>>was a faerie. >>> >>>Got up the duff, >>> >>>by a ghost with puff, >>> >>>???? >> >>who missed the fluff >>and said; "Dat's enuff!" > >An poltergeist poof. IOW not a 'breath of fresh air' -- Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters. Quote
Guest stoney Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:01:43 +0930, Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:30:46 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: > - Refer: <rn0mf2ht131el68ktpa6igtec6i2484960@4ax.com> >>On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 08:16:00 +0930, Michael Gray >><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism [] >>>I said before that that song about living on pianos was the most >>>nuseating libretto ever devised by "man", (and I use that term >>>advisedly), but little Johnny Farnham's "One (is the loneliest >>>number)" is easily the second most puke producing. >>> >>>Even more so than Charlene's "I've been to paradise, but I've never >>>been to me" pile of steaming tripe! >>> >>>That lot should give you recurring nightmares. >> >>Nope. I don't remember those songs. > >Oh, how I wish that my memory were so forgiving! I don't recommend the method of doing so. -- Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters. Quote
Guest Michael Gray Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 08:29:57 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: - Refer: <ajkdg2l4atvoh14oh9rc2c6c5hgl0ekqfn@4ax.com> >On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 05:58:39 +0930, Michael Gray ><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism > >>On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:25:18 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >> - Refer: <he0mf2tmvg5ngb7dpf66cucms8gh41r9jc@4ax.com> >>>On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 07:59:45 +0930, Michael Gray >>><fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism >>> >>>>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:57:37 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote: >>>> - Refer: <u5bhf256mqj0g1dvam96nt8t5tn6h14acp@4ax.com> >>>>>On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:10:04 -0400, "Sgt.Sausage" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>wrote in alt.atheism >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message >>>>>>news:ctvdf2t79er527rm6da8duql73gkv5hrt5@4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:47:24 GMT, Dave Oldridge >>>>>>> <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in alt.atheism >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>wcb <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:12f49olqujn2q7d@corp.supernews.com: >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>[snip] >>>>>>>>> Problem is, a boat the size of the ark today would cost >>>>>>>>> tens of millions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>A WOODEN boat the size of the ark wouldn't. But that's because it >>>>>>>>wouldn't work. A wooden hull that size would break in two in even a >>>>>>>>small gale. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Or outside of a normal breakwater. But then reality isn't part of these >>>>>>> people's world. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I would think, regardless of size, a WOODEN boat loaded as >>>>>>described in the bible -- no matter how big/small, wouldn't even >>>>>>need a "small gale". >>>>>> >>>>>>The thing would crush under its own weight before it was even >>>>>>fully loaded. >>>>> >>>>>Unloaded it would break up and sink. >>>> >>>>But the whole concept holds no water. >>> >>>Which is why it gosub's and doesn't return. >> >>I haen't heard that joke since Moses was a lad. > >Alladin Goat? A lad in Seine. (Apologies to Monsieur Bowie) Quote
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